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Account messup?

I made Maki-Tak's account, and she said it's not working... I used the correct password and everything too! Help? :S
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: And she's using the right password - she told me via Skype and it's the same as the one I used to make her account.
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:09, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Tamtymat too.
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

We did everything normal... and I created Tamtymat and Chris did Maki-Tak - so it's both of us that would have messed up then. This is odd... we've done it okay before... is this something with the Scratch Wiki, or us? :/

If you can't do anything, what to do? I'd expect JSO to do something with his (what it feels like :P) magic powers - but he's on vacation. Who else then - Andrés? :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:17, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

What if they used the "Email new password" option, and then tried the new passwords?
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

*gasp* :O Let's wait for Lucario, though... :/
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Chrischb, don't forget to sign your posts. ;)

At WeirdF: We didn't input an e-mail address when we created their accounts... :/
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Oops! :( Added my signature...
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

1. Sorry if this is a silly question - but are either of you able to log into Maki-Tak's account? Because that decides if you guys made a mistake or she made a mistake xD.

2. Also today I'm leaving to the cape, so I'll be gone too :(.

3. ZOMG YOU HAVE SKYPE!?!?!? I'M LUCARIO621 ON SKYPE ADD ME NAO!!! :D
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 16:34, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

We can't log in as her... but she told us the password she received and it matched the one we used to make her account! :( Which is the same one we tried...
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 22:47, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

(+1 on what Chris said)

If you're leaving, who'll manage stuff? :O JSO will probably be back around the 16th, though... have a good vacation, Lucario! :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 23:13, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Wait... Hang on, all you guys on on Skype as well? I am too! I'm called cousin_purple! Without the exclamation mark obviously... Hmm... Now I have to think of something else to say so that this isn't just about Skype... Erm... Good luck with the problem with the accounts! :)
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

I'm back, of course :D. Based on the situation, it seems like you guys probably just copied down the wrong password or something :/. I'll have to ask JSO to access the database and find the password or something (he's back btw). I'm glad at least that you guys are trying your best and are taking extra steps to make sure you do the job right, like writing down the passwords and stuff - it does make a difference :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 03:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for causing trouble... :( ^_^
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I fixed the account on the wiki. I tried the login and it works now. It is still the same password as it should have been. What probably happened is that you made a mistake when creating the account on the wiki, be careful next time because it's really a lot of work to check what went wrong and fix it. I'm sorry the account creation process is notyet automated :( I'm hoping to have something working sometime that at least fills in the form for you so you onlmy still have to click 'create account' but I'll see. JSO 15:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Featured article/image archives?

Uh... yeah. :P So people can look back at previously featured content. What do you think? :)
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 10:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Nah - I don't think it's worth it. It takes a while to manage, and considering the main news archive wasn't used (so I deleted it), I don't think featured article and featured images need archives. But good idea!
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Delete An Uploaded File

Lucario, could you please delete This File For me? I accidentally uploaded the wrong picture! Thanks! :) Jwosty (talk contribs) 02:30, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Done! :). Also, just keep in mind that if you're linking to a page on the wiki, and not just any average page on the web, than you can just put the name of the page in double brackets - ex. [[Scratch Wiki]] will result in Scratch Wiki, a link to the main page :). This saves a bit of space.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 17:07, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me the and removing the picture! :) I didn't even know what it was... user:Jwosty 21:50, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

We don't need the Scratch Wiki:Contact Administrators page

I just realized - we could just use this... the Contact Admin page is only linked to in one spot (except for a link in the Community Portal once), so should we change the link to the page I just mentioned and delete the Contact Admin page?

The only problem is that I can't give a good link to the page; I can only make it look like an external link! :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, for the reason of the complex URL and its hard-to-find place (kind of abstract), I think we should keep the page. Besides, it has some guidelines of what reasons you should contact an admin for. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC) user:Jwosty 21:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Wait - when it'll only be bureaucrats that can block users, we'll need to change it to bureaucrats! :O

"Contact Bureaucrats" doesn't sound as nice as "Contact Administrators"... :P

Not necessarily. Contact Administrators isn't just for blocking users - it's also for deleting pages and such, which normal admins can do :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:02, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

What about when a user has to contact a bureaucrat to block a bad user? I don't think it'd be nice to have both Contact Admin and Contact Bureaucrat pages... they're almost the same anyway. :P

What should we do? :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Well firstly that's unlikely considering we approve every user, but either way, then the admin can contact a bureaucrat :P. Just leave it as is I think.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 16:44, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Having admins contact bureaucrats just wastes time... but, what else can we do? :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:37, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

How do you add an 'leave a message' button?

What the title says. It would be useful... :S

First of all, remember to sign your posts with four tildes, so people know who you are. And to get a button like that, then just use this code:

<div style="text-align:center"> <inputbox> type=commenttitle page={{FULLPAGENAMEE}} buttonlabel=Click here to leave a message! hidden=yes! </inputbox> </div>

But remember to give credit to Lucario621 if you use it... And I don't even know if he minds other people using it...

You reminded someone about the four tildes, and then you forgot to add them yourself. :P

Everything shared on this wiki belongs to everyone and not just a certain user(s) - so it's fine. :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

That first one was me... Jwosty 17:09, 16 July 2010 (UTC) :P

Also, thanks for telling me how to add the button! :)

Wait, it isn't working... This is what I tried:

<div style="text-align:center"> <inputbox> type=commenttitle page={{User talk:Jwosty}} buttonlabel=Click here to leave a message! hidden=yes! </inputbox> </div>

Hello?

Don't waste space.

About the Copyrights page...

The copyrights page needs SOMETHING because it is a red link EVERY TIME someone edits a post: "Please note that all contributions to Scratch Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here. You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see Scratch Wiki:Copyrights for details). Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!"

-ScratchDude101

Now that you mentioned that to me, I removed the message. Previously, I was trying to delete the text, but it wasn't working, but now it is. So now it should be gone. Either way, in the situation that I didn't fix it, that red link (which I know the one you're talking about) is one that I'm ok with for the purpose of the situation. Thanks,
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 19:41, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

That's great. I forget if you can, but I think the space between the "Save page" button and "Below" is too big. It's not that big of a deal, just saying...

Yeah, I'm not sure how to fix it. I'll have to look into it.

In fact, (I'm not quite sure), you might have to remove unneccessary </br> tags. ~ ScratchDude101 ♦ talk ∆ contribs 02:42, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

And thanks for fixing up the ~ magic word ~ in the template on my page! I forgot it, I hadn't used it in half a year. (I somehow kept track of that!) ~ ScratchDude101 ♦ talk ∆ contribs 03:30, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Adding back the message underneath edit boxes

We don't need the copyright part, but I think a mention of "your writing may be edited mercilessly" and possibly "all text submitted belongs to everyone" should be there. :) What do you think?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:05, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

No, not really. It's just a waste of space, honestly. Andres/JSO (I forget who) told me to remove it all a long time ago - so I finally got it done. I don't think it's that important. What do you think about the edit tools though - the thing where you can add special characters and wiki markup code to the page?
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Nice and useful! :) And like the Programming wiki. :D
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:42, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Getting rid of Andresmh and Scratchteam from the Contact Adminstrators page

Andrés isn't really active on here, and Scratchteam has never done anything - if someone reports something to them (which may happen, considering who they are), the report will just sit there and not be taken care of...

The only problem is, it wouldn't be nice to only include some of the administrators on there. :|
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh - is JSO active on here? If not... :O
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

HMPFF I try to be active! It's just that SR took a lot of my time recently. Just remove the contact administrators page it's useless IMO JSO 11:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, proof that you're active! :D

I wouldn't consider it useless... if there's something bad (like someone being rude to other users), people can look at the page and see who to contact. But yeah, it doesn't have much use. :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 11:06, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

"Wouldn't be nice"? Give me a break! (Posting randomly like this is just asking to be an admin XD) ~ ScratchDude101 ♦ talk ∆ contribs 21:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll change it. Besides, JSO. You don't even know ANYTHING about wikis xP.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:51, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah sure I MADE THIS THING JSO 14:57, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, you're good at the technical side. But little do you know much about other things... like userboxes for example. :P
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:48, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Eh... what's a userbox? xD
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:11, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

+1 ;P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

See here.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:19, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, those! :3 Is this wiki ever going to get some? :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with JSO. Get rid of that page. It is not very visible people with a problem will just click on the contact us link at the bottom of any page. --
andresmh (talk | contribs) 14:34, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Done...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

At Andrés: If someone e-mails the Scratch Team and asks for a file deleted an such, things will work out, right? I can't picture people e-mailing you to do things like that... :P

At Chrischb: A few days ago (some time around then) I saw ScratchDude101's user page - it has some of those boxes. Take a look!
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:42, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

At Chrischb: I don't really encourage userboxes because of how it's most of a community feature which I don't promote, because the main Scratch community is supposed to be on the main website, not here, so I don't want people attracted by some people's userboxes to join just for that and their own user page. Userboxes don't really have any benefit to the wiki - so don't bother with it - please set an example :P.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 13:39, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah... *sniff* I agree with you, actually; it would be stupid. :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:49, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Is my sandbox okay?

I was being silly... is it okay? ^^
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 10:29, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Umm.... sure lol :P
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 13:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

YAY!!! Da-da-daaa-da-da-da-da-daaa da-da-daaaaaa... *bite* Da-da-da-da-daaaaa!!!
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:51, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Wait - you did click the link, right?
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:54, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Yea :P Very unusual... xP
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:59, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

YAY!!!!! So you got tortured? :D Or did you get the "this image has been removed" message? :(
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:58, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

The first one was just weird with some rainbow background and a guy eating chicken or something, and then the second time I checked, the image was removed. Yeah...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 16:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

YAYYYYYYYYY!!!!! You got tortured! :D
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 09:21, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

When all block articles have been created, can we put that in the news?

There are two more block articles left and I'll probably tackle them tomorrow - so I thought I'd ask. :)

Another idea: How about putting it in the news once we get 100 users?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:12, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

For block articles, I'm going to say no, because their articles, so they're never really finished ;). For users, yes, definitely.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 17:14, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Crediting Yickpoo for the default icon in the Scratcher article

Wolfie1996 suggested it... I know that we're not normally supposed to give credits, but I wasn't sure in this case. ^_^
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 00:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh sure, definitely :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 01:32, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Blocking powers

You said that when JSO comes back from vacation you'd tell him to change it so only Bureaucrats can block users... I'm just reminding you. :) (The top four powers for admins in User Group Rights are block-related - you might want to go through them all. ;))
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 01:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reminding me about it. I just emailed JSO about it :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

O_o I iz not Bureaucrat! Meh - your reasons were good. :)

I looked at the user rights (:3) - no group has the power to block users? :O Get JSO to fix that. ;)

(Why is it you get to be a Bureaucrat? :P)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

A thought - is WeirdF allowed to create users also?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, wait - I think he's on vacation right now. ^_^
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. Thanks for reporting that! I just emailed JSO about it - he should fix it. And yes, WeirdF is now allowed to create users. But I don't think he's able to approve accounts. I'm not really sure. I'll check with JSO.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:46, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Yay, I have the block power again! I felt a bit weird not having it (not that we'll be using it :P).

Wait - that wasn't a messup, right? :O
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:09, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Now, only bureaucrats can block accounts - correct? I can - can you? Because you're not supposed to be, only so if an admin account gets hacked, the hacker won't block everyone :). Just for security purposes.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 18:24, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

NOOOOOOOOO NOT BEING ABLE TO BLOCK PEOPLE WAHHHHHHHH Meh, you have a good reason. But a question: Why is it that you get to be a bureaucrat?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:14, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M SO HELPLESS NOW WAHHHHHHHHHHHH WHAT IF THERE'S A SPAMMAH??? HOW DO YOU BECOME A BUREAUCRAT LIKE YOU SO YOU CAN KEEP YOUR POWAH???? WHAT ABOUT ALL THOSE OTHER POOR LOYAL EDITORS WHO WANNA HELP OUT??? I SHALL NOW UNLEASH A MONSTER FROM MY SANDBOX WEEKLY!!! BEWAREAH THE PACMAN OR NOM NOM SHALL NOM ON YOUR BRAINZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ *click* :D :D :D Don't worry, I understand... *sniff* I do feel rather helpless though. xP Oh, and I will do the monster thing. :D
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:16, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

YAH WHY DO YOU GET TO BE ONE??? :P Joking - we need someone. :P If the wiki grows will there be more bureaucrats? If there's a spammer in our timezone when you're asleep, we won't go to bed well. :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 07:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

There is definitely no need for more bureaucrats - but there might be if you can 'get' an account on the wiki like on Scratch Resources - we'll get vandalism and commercial spammers. :O
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:51, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Think about it like this, Chrischb. If there was an official Microsoft Wiki made by Microsoft, with information on all of their products and stuff.... it would be weird to not have Bill Gates as a bureaucrat, correct? Well thus, it would be weird to not have me as a bureaucrat on the Scratch Wiki! :D. Nobody really *needs* to be bureaucrat - there's very small extra things for them to do, so it's not like it really has to be spread around too much. But administrators, I'll hand out every day :P Jk. But I'm more flexible about it.

BTW - now WeirdF can approve accounts, I think. If you could check with him to make sure I'm correct, and then teach him how to do it, I'd really appreciate it :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 18:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

What, did you create Scratch or something? >_> Or has visiting MIT and taking power on the wiki made you think all that? Seriously, expecting to have ability to approve suggestions for the wiki... this was all just a case of having ownership of the previous wiki at the right time - it could have been Kysae-San (mispelling) or something... :S Sorry for being persistent. xP

About WeirdF: We'll tell him when he gets back from vacation.
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 05:38, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Why should you be as high as Bill Gates on a Microsoft wiki? You didn't found the wiki - you only have this power because Kyasae-san handed over the wiki to you and you've not given it away! You - you haven't done anything to deserve such power! I'm sorry to say it, but you aren't doing much for the wiki - I've gone through your contributions sometimes, and they're almost all discussion pages! There are other people that are more dedicated to the wiki than you - they do more than just discussion pages, they do lots of good article edits - surely they should have the power instead of someone who does edits like yours?

Often I've seen you acting like you're the ruler of the wiki - you're not. No one is. If there is going to be someone like Bill Gates on a Microsoft wiki, it'll be Andrés and the Scratch Team - not a normal Scratcher like you and me.

Don't think I'm trying to get you to make me a bureaucrat...

...............

Sorry, I blew it... >_<
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:06, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Sowweh... :O :O :O
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:19, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Question: What does being a bureaucrat give you? You seem to say that it gives you tons of powah and influence on the wiki... :/
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I never said I would be a bureaucrat on a Microsoft Wiki ><. Yes, if Kyasae-san stayed with the wiki, and she did similar things to what I did instead of me doing it, and make the Scratch Team make the wiki part of the Scratch family of websites, than arguably she would deserve it - not me - because she would be one of the head leaders - not me. What I'm trying to say here, is that Lightnin should have to make as few people possible able to approve suggestions as possible, just for security reasons - just like bureaucrats, as well as to make sure as few people as possible accidentally approve suggestions and make errors. And it seems like you guys think you deserve it more than me... Let me say this: if the Scratch Wiki doesn't get a suggestions page for itself, than you're unlikely to be very soon able to approve Scratch Wiki suggestions, if anybody gets to - but if it does, I'd definitely make you guys suggestion approvers with me :D. Also, although I aren't making that many main CONTENT edits, I am doing DISCUSSION edits, in the way that I'm leading the wiki in the right direction, and helping make decisions with the community, and confirming what not. I'm also one of the main people who actually can talk to Andres and JSO whenever I can to alert them to do different things (and guys please don't have a spaz attack again about how you're isolated in New Zealand and how I can talk to them whenever I want xD). I'm trying not to be using my powers for bad and just for reputation, if that's what it seems like... :(. In addition, try not to focus on the bureaucrat powers - it technically isn't much, but it's more that JSO, Andres, and I are people on the technical side of the wiki, so we are sure about what is going to happen and what not. I hope this all makes sense, and that this wall of text isn't too frightening...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:30, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Wait, I'm confused, I swear when I saw the list of administrators and bureaucrats everyone on that list was a bureaucrat except for me. I was the only admin... But now I seem to have gained the power to approve and create accounts, but lost the power to block people, at least through the "Recent Changes" page, but I assume I can't block anyone... Since I'm the only person in Britain out of us, wouldn't it be useful if I could be a bureaucrat, and since Chris and Jon are the only two people in New Zealand, they should also be bureaucrats. It makes sense to span it across as many time zones as possible.

And as I said, I thought that before I went on holiday Chris and Jon were bureaucrats... So what am I and what are they? :/
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

No idea. xD Lucario said a few paragraphs that he'll give you a tutorial or something on how to create accounts - congratulations! :D :D :D

@Lucario: I feel bad now - I'm sorry for all my trouble. :( Do whatever - I don't want to be a bureaucrat anyway, I just want the ban powah. xD
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 06:37, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah Lucario told me over Skype...

And I still think that Chris, Jon and I should be able to ban. As I said, Chris and Jon can cover +12GMT or whatever it is, I can cover 0GMT, and Lucario can cover GMT-5. Surely that is a perfect solution, it means that it's likely someone will be there at all times if a spammer or flamer comes along...
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

Okay... Lucario:

• I was comparing Bill Gates being a bureaucrat on a Microsoft wiki to you being a bureaucrat here. You said it made sense - but you didn't found Scratch or anything like that, so why did you say that? :/
• I'm not saying that we deserve it more than you...
• How did you get so high? :O
• Sorry for going all crazy... PLEASE FORGIVE ME O GREAT LUCARIO (no sarcasm)

WeirdF:

• Yeah, we used to be bureaucrats so we could help create accounts for the wiki - but now administrators can do it. So we don't need to be bureaucrats anymore, so... bye bye bureaucracy! :O And to make things safer, only bureaucrats can block accounts... I think that's because there are less bureaucrats than administrators, and we're supposed to have as few people with that power as possible for safety reasons.
• I left instructions on your talk page for creating accounts - please take a look. :)

General:

• Lucario, you said that there should be as few bureaucrats as possible for safety... well:

• If we all have a strong password (which Chris and I have, and believe me they're very strong), then we won't have to worry about safety, right? And I think that we should have more people with the ability to block, so we can cover more timezones... wait, why am I fussed about being able to block users? Well, I just would like it... I feel better and more protected with it. ^_^

• If you want as few bureaucrats as possible... de-bureaucrat JSO, JSOadmin, and possibly Andresmh and Scratchteam. JSO won't need the powers, Andresmh probably won't use them (he won't use his sysop powers anyway; when he wanted the Contact Admin page deleted he asked someone to delete it instead of doing it himself), and Scratchteam has never ever done anything and will probably never do anything in the future, let along bureaucrat powers. So getting rid of their bureaucracy shouldn't hurt, and increase safety. :) And guess what - you'll be the only bureaucrat left! You should feel really high up and proud. :D
  Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh boy. Lots of text to reply to >.<. I'm going to just ignore most of it and say this (:P): I think the problem is that you guys are obsessed with blocking people xD. Honestly - how many people does the Scratch Team ban per day? Maybe 1? 2? Well, on the wiki - the chances of it happening is like 2 to the negative one-hundredth power! So it's very very unlikely. You guys are worrying about trolls waaaaay too much. Just chillax :3. You guys can still revert the edits and message them on their talk pages and stuff :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 20:25, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know why I'm so obsessed. xD Maybe it's because I can't threaten people with blocking... as if I'd ever need to (or should). :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 23:32, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

O_O too much text! :O
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 23:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

At Lucario: The problem is not how often it happens, it's that there's a chance of it happening. Therefore if anything bad every does happen, spam, swearing, inappropriate images, it's likely that someone will be online and able to help. Whereas you're the only bureaucrat who ever does anything, and you're not on 24 hours in a day.
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

Ok. I admit it. I'm on 23 hours a day! XD Jk lol. But even if it does happen, I'll probably notice it, considering I do check the recent changes page a lot. And, of course you guys can immediately notify me. And, of course there's the question - how bad will it be? A person may only do it once; that happens most of the time, I'd say. And besides, we only usually ban people if they constantly do it and giving a large hassle, as the Scratch Team has mentioned before. Thus, it's very unlikely. AND - there is JSO, in Belgium, who goes on the wiki a bit :P. I hope you understand my reasoning :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 18:26, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Could you go over the Motor block articles?

You have Lego WeDo, so I thought it'd be good if you could check them. :) (Sorry for all the messages on your talk page!)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:00, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Done! You did a good job! Even with the examples :). The only problem was with motor direction, but I fixed it :). Hopefully I'll add more articles on LEGO WeDo later...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:59, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

It was fun trying to do those Motor articles. :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:47, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

w00t!

If you use the search feature on the Scratch Website, one of the buttons is "wiki"!!! :D :D :D :D I'M SO HAPPEH
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 09:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Awesome!
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

De-bureaucrating people

You said that we should have as few bureaucrats as possible for safety... well, there are some people you can de-bureaucrat. JSO and JSOadmin won't be using their powers, Scratchteam has never made a contribution and will probably never (let alone bureaucrat powers), and Andresmh probably won't use his powers (he won't use his sysop ones anyway - when he wanted the Comtact Admin page deleted, he told someone to do it instead of doing it himself).

Hey, there'll only be one bureaucrat... you! You should feel really awesome. :) Anyway, what do you think?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 23:51, 30 July 2010 (UTC) 

You're over-reacting to the limited bureaucrat thing >.<. I think all of those other accounts are helpful to have. JSO - he's like the website administrator with all of the technical stuff. Obviously he should be bureaucrat - he's just as important as me, just like Andresmh. Don't ask about JSOadmin - some other account of his I supposed. For Andresmh, just because when he wanted the Comtact Admin page deleted he told someone to do it instead of doing it himself, doesn't mean he was afraid to do it or something. He's just a wiki n00b :P. And Scratchteam of course is an account for all of the Scratch Team members to use - so if they see somebody doing something wrong on the wiki, they can block people too. BTW, being the only bureaucrat doesn't make people happy lol :P.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 00:39, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay... ^_^ ^_^ ^_^ Question: Why does JSO get two accounts, both admins and bureaucrats? It's a waste. :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 05:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Well I assume JSO didn't want the "admin" bit at the end of his username, he just wanted to use his Scratch one...
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

And hang on a minute, I just realized, I don't have the "rollback" option either anymore.
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

No, we still have it... look here. :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:46, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't appear to have it though. Normally it's next to everything in the recent changes section. But there is only one edit that appears to give me the option to rollback, and that is your creation of the fifth archive today.
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

The rollback button only appears at the most recent edit of the page - so if there were several edits on an article, only the most recent one would have the rollback button. :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:59, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh... I see... Thanks! :)
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

Back to it: Having two admin and bureaucrat accounts for JSO is a bit of a waste - shouldn't one of them be 'reduced'?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:02, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Yes, it is a waste, but it's also a waste of time to block him. It possibly could be useful for some technical reason that I don't know about. Don't worry about it though :P
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 17:29, 31 July 2010 (UTC)