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ThankFulBot Bot Request
over at Scratch Wiki:Bot Requests#ThankfulBot you said you would officially close the topic after one week. It has now been over 4 months with now more responses, so it seems that this should be closed.
Dogsmakemehappy (talk | contribs) 15:52, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification! I've closed a bunch of other ones as well.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 01:33, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
Sonic Engine
Hello Kenny2scratch, it has appears that you have deleted my wiki post.I understand that it was my fault for making the post. Next time, I will be more careful.
-unsigned comment by ScrappyLampyYT (talk | contribs)
- It's okay! You're not in trouble - just make sure to keep future pages you create on topic. Check S:NEWPAGES and S:GUIDES for those guidelines.
- Also, remember to sign your talk page posts! See Help:Welcome/4 for a tutorial on that, in case you missed it. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 20:44, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
Visibility
How come on all the edits against the wiki rules, the visibility of the edits is changed to hide it as well? No other wiki I know of does this, and it is the same as pretending it never happened. 
BookTV (talk | contribs) 15:02, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not Ken, but this isn't always the case (although the presence of a vague deletion summary "Violation of Wiki guidelines" perhaps doesn't make that clear). Usually there are specific reasons that hidden revisions are hidden. For instance, if someone was breaking the Scratch Community Guidelines—like posting something inappropriate for Scratch or sharing personal information—the relevant revisions would be hidden to prevent people from seeing the offending content in the page history. Or, if someone was complaining about their Scratch ban on the wiki, their messages would likely be removed and the relevant revisions hidden (since we don't want people to see said messages). Blatant vandalism is also usually hidden.
- However, if a user simply, say, used inappropriate first-person in an article, which is also against the Wiki guidelines, their revisions would most likely not be hidden because there is not much reason to hide those revisions. I think that simple violations of BRD are also not usually hidden.
- If you've seen other wikis that are less strict about hiding revisions, this is perhaps because the Scratch Wiki is a different wiki with different practices it needs to follow. For instance, edits are beholden to the Scratch Community Guidelines here. We also are perhaps more strict than some other wikis when it comes to privacy, for example by hiding the entries in the block log.
- I hope I've adequately explained how we don't just hide all guideline-breaking revisions, but that normally revisions are hidden because they specifically shouldn't be seen. If you have suggestions on how the wiki's processes can be improved, feel free to post feedback on the Community Portal. Also, if you have further questions, feel free to ask. And thanks for your contributions to the wiki!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:46, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- In less words, things against Wiki guidelines are to be fixed, with the history of the fixing clearly visible for future reference. However, things against Scratch guidelines must never be visible at all, even in page history, or else we risk drawing the Scratch Team's ire.
- Additionally, sometimes we hide revisions and logs to not draw attention to egregious violators of either Wiki guidelines (e.g. bringers of drama and vandalism). This is both for their privacy, as bigpuppy says, and so that people are not rewarded with attention for doing something wrong. (The latter of these two reasons is admin convention here, but an explicit guideline on Wikipedia. We don't need an explicit guideline on the matter because the account request process makes vandalism blissfully rare.)
- This is not "pretending it never happened" - the history entry is clearly still there, just with some or all details hidden. And we are far from the only wiki that does this. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:38, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- And why did you just change the visibility of my question on someone's wall and remove it? It did nor violate the wiki guidelines in ANY way, especially becsuse I was talking about a PAGE on this WIKI. BookTV (talk | contribs) 22:28, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, it didn't violate the Wiki guidelines in any way. It violated Scratch guidelines. Soliciting invitations to unmoderated chat is against the Community Guidelines and your question would have gotten you alerted on the Scratch website. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:29, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
- No, it didn't violate the Wiki guidelines in any way. It violated Scratch guidelines. Soliciting invitations to unmoderated chat is against the Community Guidelines and your question would have gotten you alerted on the Scratch website.
- And why did you just change the visibility of my question on someone's wall and remove it? It did nor violate the wiki guidelines in ANY way, especially becsuse I was talking about a PAGE on this WIKI.
Regarding your status
Hi Ken,
I read your status and while I don't know you in real life, I just wanted to wish you good luck and say that I know you can overcome any obstacles that you may face. I don't really have any similar experiences that I can use to empathize with your experience, I just wanted to let you know that you're in my thoughts. bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:33, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- I second that.
TheTrillion • Talk • 2,624 contributions • Scratch 15:13, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
- Thank you. =)
- I think overall I'm okay, there's just very complex feelings about the whole situation that are made easier to handle by writing them down. :)
- Thanks for your awareness. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:57, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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leahcimto talk • contribs • profile 21:50, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
- Replied, thanks. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:32, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
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Dhuls (Talk|927 Contributions|Scratch) 04:09, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
- Responded with my own opinion, thanks kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:14, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
Got a message from the bot for a 9kb file
On August 18th, I got a message from the bot saying that it had compressed 2 files I uploaded: One was 4kb and the other was 9kb. Why did it have to compress such small files?
kccuber(talk:: operators)(userpage:: extension)(scratch:: sensing)(contribs:: motion) 14:22, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- I'm not ken but I believe as long the bot can compress more than 10% of the file and it doesn't have any form of "compress" in the edit summary, it will compress it. TheTrillion • Talk • 2,624 contributions • Scratch 22:10, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
- ^ They're right. Make sure to only include "compressed" in the edit summary if you have actually compressed the image, though. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
- ^ They're right. Make sure to only include "compressed" in the edit summary if you have actually compressed the image, though.
When a Bureaucrat leaves the Wiki, do they give up their roles to another user?
CodeLearnerSai (talk | contribs) 21:22, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Not kenny2scratch, but no, roles are not transferred to other users. Generally when users with elevated permissions (EWs, admins, etc.) leave they retain their permissions. If the rest of the Wiki administration did decide to revoke those permissions for any reason, they would not be transferred to any other user.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:44, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
- Do we have elections then? CodeLearnerSai (talk | contribs) 02:40, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think so.
And Bureaucrat is appointed, not elected.
Dhuls (Talk|927 Contributions|Scratch) 03:04, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Elections are held when we (the existing EW+) determine they are needed, which does not necessarily (and often does not) coincide with anyone leaving. However, elections are only to elect new EWs; admins and bureaucrats are appointed and those appointments sometimes coincide with elections but sometimes don't, and the appointees are usually existing EWs (for admins) and admins (for bureaucrats). Unlike elections for EW, there is no self-nomination process for appointments to admin or bureaucrat, the decision is made solely by the existing administration. jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:13, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
- Elections are held when we (the existing EW+) determine they are needed, which does not necessarily (and often does not) coincide with anyone leaving. However, elections are only to elect new EWs; admins and bureaucrats are appointed and those appointments sometimes coincide with elections but sometimes don't, and the appointees are usually existing EWs (for admins) and admins (for bureaucrats). Unlike elections for EW, there is no self-nomination process for appointments to admin or bureaucrat, the decision is made solely by the existing administration.
- I don't think so.
- Do we have elections then?
Compressing picture files
I keep being told to use tinypng to compress pictures before uploading, so I tried it, and tinypng gives me a zip file, which the uploader refuses to upload. What am I doing wrong? Thanks! (You might want to make the place on the upload page that mentions tinypng clearer, too; I can't be the only confused editor.) 
Bharvey (talk | contribs) 07:40, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
- Extract it then upload it.
LokiBlaster | Talk Page | Contributions 14:14, 15 December 2021 (UTC) - Assuming you're compressing multiple files, you need to extract the images from the zip and upload them individually. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:46, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
Bot mistaken about my files
So, when I try to upload an image that is 6kb, it keeps saying that "You must enter a comment when uploading a new version of a file or editing a file page. You must also include a category when uploading new files." Either I don't understand that (I probably don't lol), and if a comment is the same thing as adding a summary for an image, then I already did that but it still refuses to let me upload. Is this normal (doubt it) or is there something up?
Superseed16 (talk | contribs) 00:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- You forge to add a category. To add a category, put Category:CategoryName in the summary. Valid categories for images are any subcategory of Category:Images. Dhuls (Talk|927 Contributions|Scratch) 00:44, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- I looked at the history entry, and you indeed forgot a category. You need to include one like this:
[[Category:CATEGORY NAME]]. If the file is for use in your userpage, use Users' Images, otherwise look at Special:CategoryTree to find the category you need. jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:31, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- I looked at the history entry, and you indeed forgot a category. You need to include one like this:
Alright, thanks guys! That helped a lot. :) Superseed16 (talk | contribs) 00:25, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
TemplatesFTW is removing redirects
Recently, I created some redirects, but TemplatesFTW added a space after the # to "fix a style guideline". I think this is happening because "redirect" wasn't capitalized on the redirects. Can you fix it? 
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 17:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
- I'll add a new style guideline requiring capitalized redirects. Thanks for letting me know. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 00:08, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
A little offtopic help
So, you created TemplatesFTW which is a pywikibot on discord, I'm trying to create my own bot also with pywikibot but I can't get it to function on scratch wiki, it only seems to work on wikipedia. In the select wiki interface it only shows up official wikimedia wikis (wikipedia, mediawiki, commons, wikidata, wikivoyage, etc). Could you give me some guide on how to do it?
Sorry for being offtopic. 
RobloxianMinecraft (talk | contribs) 05:07, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- TemplatesFTW is a confusing name, so let me break it down:
- The bot named TemplatesFTW on the Scratch Wiki is not written with pywikibot, it uses my own library named mw-api-client. You can find the source code of my bot here, but note that it's a really poor-quality piece of code and is really only readable by me. Same goes for mw-api-client - please do not actually use that library if you want something that is up-to-date and not terribly written. mw-api-client was made for MW 1.28, and we are currently on 1.35.
- The bot named TemplatesFTW on Discord provides some commands related to Scratch and the Wiki. It does not make edits, and its source code is private.
- To answer your actual question, first you need to remember that the Scratch Wiki requires an account for editing. If you plan to make bot edits, you need to first request a bot account and have your bot approved before you even start coding.
- If your bot is approved, then check out the pywikibot 3rd-party wiki quick start. You should be able to customize your bot from there. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 18:31, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much!
@greenFlag RobloxianMinecraft::events ring06:57, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Thank you so much!
A Help with About Page of English test Scratch wiki located in scratch wiki home
https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Eng:Test_Scratch_Wiki_Home
Please check the problem with this page
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 11:45, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Purvitekrival: it's intentional, because that page is reserved as a boilerplate (as does most of the pages in Eng: namespace).
ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 13:26, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
- Ok, But I wanted to translate to Hindi so how to do that and what is a boilerplate?
Purvitekriwal (talk | contribs) 02:53, 10 January 2022 (UTC)- I meant that it's merely a template to fill out, by saying "boilerplate". BTW, it's been already created, and it's not something you have to be very concerned about as it's just for organizing the same language editors under a page with helpful links. You need to translate articles to Hindi as the primary goal (and then help pages or the pages related to how the wiki work, would be cool if you could also write some new pages that's not existing in the English version yet), and you can do that by translating pages in the wiki. (for example, by translating Scratch if not already translated) ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 20:10, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
- I meant that it's merely a template to fill out, by saying "boilerplate". BTW, it's been already created, and it's not something you have to be very concerned about as it's just for organizing the same language editors under a page with helpful links. You need to translate articles to Hindi as the primary goal (and then help pages or the pages related to how the wiki work, would be cool if you could also write some new pages that's not existing in the English version yet), and you can do that by translating pages in the wiki. (for example, by translating Scratch if not already translated)
- Ok, But I wanted to translate to Hindi so how to do that and what is a boilerplate?
Is your Consciousness page outdated?
I do not know if it is abandoned or not or your sleeping patterns change every single moment, but it was last edited in 2019 and since then, you are now in Canada. 
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 15:58, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
- It's hopefully at least a little more up to date now. Thanks for pointing it out. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:09, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
Edit reference
Sorry I am completely not sure about the talk pages so I am definitely not sure if I should post these here, but the wiki project posting is just a "referencing" to it. The project is for demonstrating the note, and I will not cause ANY edit wars on the page, so you can still add anything to it - I won't be undoing your revision at this point. I'm not sure about how talk pages work, I'll read the article soon, but not now. 
Pizza0430 (talk | contribs) 09:54, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
- I don't have any problem with the contents of your edit - but in your edit summary, you said "please DO NOT UNDO THIS REVISION". There are a few problems with that:
- On a more general level, typing in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS on the internet indicates you are shouting. This, combined with the fact that you are bluntly telling people what to do, without the authority to expect obedience, makes the edit summary impolite at best and disrespectful at worst; which is a violation of Scratch Community Guidelines.
- On a more specific level, the Wiki is not yours, and anyone is allowed to undo anyone's edit (except undoing someone else's undo is only allowed after discussion, per S:BRD).
- Beyond this, jvvg's message and my message to you were because you showed a pattern of anti-BRD behavior. In case this was due to ignorance of the rules, I'd like to ask you to read through the Wiki guidelines before continuing to edit. Thank you! kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:10, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
Ok then. Pizza0430 (talk | contribs) 13:15, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
“Appearances in Projects”
Okay, first of all, I just really want to say I love the way you handle your user pages. Lovely. Also: Hello, Kenny2scratch! As an editor who has yet to participate in the discussion, you are invited to participate in the discussion at Talk:Kaj. This is not mandatory, but your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, and have a good day!
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Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 02:13, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks! And I've replied on the topic. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:59, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
About Wiki Bans
Hello! I've got a question about wiki bans. I'd encountered a user who was banned on Scratch, but not on the wiki, and I asked a user if that kind of user should be banned on the wiki. He said no, because Scratch bans are not related to wiki bans. He linked me to a wiki article for more info.
On that article, I found this:
| “ | If you are blocked on the Scratch Website, you cannot request to be unblocked on the Wiki until you are unblocked on the Scratch Website. | ” |
I wonder why that would be the case, since Scratch bans aren't related to wiki bans. I asked the user about it, and he said it was likely outdated. He came back a few days later, saying it's still a rule, but he couldn't explain why it's a rule. Could you explain? Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk | contribs) 00:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Generally, if someone is blocked on Scratch then we take that as a good sign that it's not a good idea to unblock them here, because it indicates their behavior is pervasive and likely to continue here if we unblock them, thus making it harder to justify unblocking them if they haven't succeeded in a mainsite appeal. Additionally, while it's not common, we sometimes block people here because they're blocked on Scratch and have carried their drama here, which is an obvious reason to not allow a Wiki unblock until they've been unblocked on Scratch.
- A lot of rules regarding blocks on the Wiki are unwritten and just general practice by incumbent bureaucrats. What I've said above is unlikely to change, but it may if there is reason for such change in the future. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:30, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks!
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 17:16, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
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Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 15:53, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Replied, thanks. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:46, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks for that Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 16:56, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks for that
What does ron stand for?
https://test.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Ron:Pagina_principal%C4%83&oldid=24980
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LankyBox01 (talk | contribs) 13:01, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Românâ (Btw, use interwiki links when linking across Wikis. You also don't need -- before your signature) Adzboy • Talk • Contributions • Scratch Profile 17:14, 9 July 2022 (UTC)
- Just FYI, the Test-Scratch-Wiki uses ISO 639-3 codes while assigning a namespace for a language. The only exceptions to this rule are
twi:tw:code prefix (in ISO 639-2 format only) used for the Test Wiki mainspace while interwiki-linking from other wikis, and the former namespace naming practice based on ISO 639-2. However, the ISO 639-2 interwiki code of Test Wiki,tw, is reserved for Twi, which is actually a real language (but in Scratch Wiki it's specifically reserved for the Test Wiki); and all pages and namespaces have been moved into ISO 639-3 codes since this switch (noteworthy, they are still valid as interwiki link prefixes, but redirects to 3-letter, newer designations). ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 22:02, 10 July 2022 (UTC) - Note: Corrected, thanks to Ken! ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 17:51, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Correction: Other wikis use
tw:prefixes, nottwi:. There is no three-letter prefix for the Test Wiki. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:42, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Correction: Other wikis use
Outdated variable image
In your sandbox, there is a image of a variable slider. You have used the outdated image here. You can update it to this.
Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 05:26, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notice. However, those images are there to preserve thumbnail sizes used for Wiki Wednesday posts, which I can't edit. Therefore I have to use the old image or risk breaking the old posts. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:43, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Thanks. Then I will replace some of the old variable readout images with the new one if that's ok.
-iviedwall- ‖ talk contributions 🐱 07:35, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Feel free to update the images in other articles, just don't reupload that specific one. kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 23:58, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
- Feel free to update the images in other articles, just don't reupload that specific one.
- Thanks. Then I will replace some of the old variable readout images with the new one if that's ok.
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