Talk:Scratch Wiki

Questions

If a have a wiki question (which I have many, such as this one :P), shall I ask it here or in Questions about Scratch?
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 23:39, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Ooh, I just figured out how to make that a redirect. I created that page :D

OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 23:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

Ask it on the Community Portal.

Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:02, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, Scimonster. You've helped me a lot!

OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 02:43, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Can I try and rewrite some of it to get rid of some of the numerous —s?
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 03:51, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Why couldn't you rewrite it :P

Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 04:22, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

do it man

em dashes are like the scourge of the scratch wiki

whoever wrote most of the content really loved them and they're grammatically annoying if that even makes sense

Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 04:45, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

Dude I wrote those dashes ages ago and I don't do it anymore >.>

Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:09, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

You wrote hyphens, and my find&replace program made dashes. XD

Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:11, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

List of articles

I wonder if there is a page where it shows a list of all the articles. If there is, I was thinking it would be a good idea to link where it says "There are currently 1,498 articles on the Scratch Wiki." to the page.
Seil (talk | contribs) 15:22, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

By the way, I found the page.

Seil (talk | contribs) 15:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I've added the link (thanks for the suggestion!) If anyone objects, feel free to state why. and uh stuff

Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:49, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I wonder...

...what LukeTek thought when people created this new wiki and abandoned his wiki...
Dpinto04 (talk | contribs) 21:00, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Can you still use the old wiki?

Dpinto04 (talk | contribs) 21:00, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

You can still use the old wiki because it still exists.

purplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits 📖 📕 🔖 21:21, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

References Heading

Should the "References" heading be hidden? It is not something that most people care about, and it really is only of use to people editing the article.
KathrynJaneway (talk | contribs) 20:45, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Old Wiki Link

I feel as though it should bring the user to a page stating that the old wiki(from before it became an official wiki) is no longer monitored and may contain content unsuitable for Scratch. I visited it myself and saw an article with a swear in its title, which is not against Wikia's terms of service. Someone, please work on this, or at least give me permission to.
Bla-Games (talk | contribs) 22:47, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

The Wikia wiki was never really monitored to begin with. I think the link is important for historical significance, but I'll add a warning about its lack of moderation.

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:51, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Effected vs Affected

Just checking - shouldn't it say "The transfer was most affected by Kenny2Scratch, instead of effected?
Dominic305 Talk Contribs (1,791) Scratch Directory 12:31, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

To "effect" something is to make it happen. Nothing wrong with it.

(Also, the S in my name is not capitalized, FYI.)

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:55, 9 March 2019 (UTC)

I know that this is an old topic, and the sentence has been changed, but Dominic305 is correct. The word effected is still used in this phrase: 'The transfer was collaboratively effected'. The word effected is a noun, and does not work in this way. However, the word affected is a verb. Therefore, affected is the word that is grammatically correct. This needs to be changed.

Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 17:00, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

"effected" can also be a verb (the past tense of "effect"). Also, using the word "affected" is odd in this context.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 23:06, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

I didn't just affect the transfer, I made it happen. "Effect" can be used as a verb to mean bringing about something - see: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/effect#Verb

kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:19, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Ok, my bad.
-unsigned comment by Filmlover12 (talk | contribs)

Revert

Jammum, it would be helpful if you could explain why the edit here was reverted. Just that content was removed and nothing else is not a reason to revert alone. I clearly explained why certain things were being removed as well, so when this has not been addressed it does not feel like the bold revert discuss cycle is truly being utilized here. Stuff that should be in project space is instead in self-referential article space. In addition, I have also made a lot of edits to existing content, changing sentence flow, grammar, and such, and I don't see why this was reverted as well. Please explain, thanks.
Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 17:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

So, after nobody having replied to this for over a week, I restored the edit, however it was reverted again. Allow me to explain my reasons for certain contents being removed:

I do not think the "Server Transfer 2" is important enough for article space. The two main server transfers was the transfer from Wikia to MIT, and the transfer from MIT to International Scratch Wikis. Simply moving servers both of which are controlled by the same person is not that important to the history -- MIT moved the wiki several times but this is not documented anywhere. And I think only the first transfer has any real bearing.

"How to become a contributor" was not removed, but changed, to explain the account request system in a way that article space should (currently it reads as instructions for joining).

"Scratch wikis in other languages" is better off in project space. It is very long and rambly, and has a wiki standards tag (it's a bad sign if a high traffic page like Scratch Wiki has problem tags on it). I believe one other user agreed with me on this off-wiki, although I will ask him to confirm here.

Several other changes to the page were made, but I don't believe this involved removing large amounts of content, just changing X to Y etc...

Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 01:54, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

You are right about moving the Other Languages to project space (I was the person who said this off wiki). However, I don't believe the other points are valid.

"I do not think the "Server Transfer 2" is important enough for article space." I'd argue that it is. It gave the admins a lot more control over the backend. The MIT server transfers changed absolutely nothing of that magnitude as far as I'm aware.

""How to become a contributor" was not removed, but changed, to explain the account request system in a way that article space should (currently it reads as instructions for joining)." Where do you think people who want to join will look? In the Scratch Wiki article. What space would this be put in anyway? It makes no sense to be put in project space.

""Scratch wikis in other languages" is better off in project space. It is very long and rambly, and has a wiki standards tag" The Wiki Standards tag has nothing to do with it being in project space. It says "Lots of de-German-ization grammar errors."

" Several other changes to the page were made, but I don't believe this involved removing large amounts of content, just changing X to Y etc..." What about the removal of all the reasons the first transfer happened?

Luvexina Talk Contribs On Scratch 02:10, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

"It gave the admins a lot more control over the backend." I don't see how that has affected the end user or how that is important to the article.

"Where do you think people who want to join will look? In the Scratch Wiki article." I have no problem with the article mentioning the account request system, but instructions, or a section title like "How to become a contributor" is much more problematic.

"It makes no sense to be put in project space." No, this is exactly what Project space is to be used for. Infact, this is already in project space at Project:Become_a_contributor.

"What about the removal of all the reasons the first transfer happened? " I do not recall having removed that, but I think it might be worth changing to be more encyclopedic.

Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 02:30, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

@Naleksuh: I'd like to say again and again and again, S:NOTWIKIPEDIA. The Scratch Wikis are between "WikiHow" and "Fandom"s, but they are definitely not Wikipedia.

ahmetlii Talk Contributions Directory 04:36, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

You are the first person to even mention Wikipedia here. And no, Scratch Wiki is not Wikia either (that ironically falls under the exact same clause you are trying to promote it with).

It seems there is a consensus from VFDan and myself to move the "other languages" portion to project space. While we have not agreed on other stuff, I will partially do the edit now.

Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 22:59, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

It's a very bad idea to remove "Scratch wikis in other languages" because it's a important part of the history of Scratch Wiki (without help of the DACH Scratch Wiki community the english Scratch Wiki would't be where it is today. If you don*t understand the backround have a look here: https://test.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Test-Scratch-Wiki:Watch). I added the original setion like it has been before you removed it. If you don't like the section because "It is very long and rambly, and has a wiki standards tag" you are free change it for better, but please don't just delete important information, that is also a link-target of the other Scratch Wikis. Thank you for your understanding in adavance.

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 20:05, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

^^^ i agree with martin here, his presence has given us an existence, a home, and we owe it to him and the international scratch wikis for his generosity, i don't know if he currently does pay for the other wikis but he at least used to host them (including the english wiki), and possibly still does now, on a server paid for out of his own pocket. that's not only extremely generous and vital for our presence but without the trust from the scratch team in him hosting this wiki, we would possibly have no control whatsoever bureaucratically or technically. he was designated as the host because (among other reasons), he already prerequisitely hosted wikis in other languages, and that happening cannot go documented. sure, it could be made more concise (i don't recall reading it yet), but it must not be removed. martin has provided an extremely large base for our existence out of nothing more than pure generosity, and removing that paragraph, to me, seems nothing more than ungrateful (and i'm sure you're not ungrateful as a community, but if i was reading that it was removed for the first time as someone who's new to the wiki or to scratch, who doesn't know the true community at all, i would initially think that). i recommend we keep it and if necessary, refactor it. don't remove a section that makes us grateful for someone whose generosity has truly kept the lights on for everyone else. martin may be a busy guy, but "if he had a beard he could [also] be German Santa".

tl;dr martin is the reason we are thriving and we need to accredit that

banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,484))

20:40, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Improved the section
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 14:47, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I also added some historically notes. I would be happy if you correct my "non native english" if neccesarry. ;-) Thanks in advance!

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 15:27, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

@CrazyBoy826 Thanks again! :-)

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 06:15, 21 April 2022 (UTC)

Article needs an update

Note that I am a "New Wikian" and cannot edit these pages. Can somebody edit the page so it includes the new MediaWiki update that happened last night? It's a pretty important event to note.
4096bits | Talk | 840 Contribs 22:26, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

While there were certainly a number of technical issues, it is certainly not "a pretty important event". Nobody will remember it in six months from now. Plus, this article already has a problem of having stuff that needs to be moved to project space, and this proposed edit makes that worse.

Not done

Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 22:57, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Alright, got it.

4096bits | Talk | 840 Contribs 23:43, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Not needed links

In the help pages it says not to put links in for the article of scratch and website. In this it does have links for them.
Coolmanisawesome24 (talk | contribs) 15:25, 3 May 2022 (UTC)

You talking about external links, right? You are not talking about Inter-Wiki-Links, right? (I would consider Inter-Wiki-Link as internal links). I don't know why to have this restriction. Perhaps help pages should be changed? The other thing is, if there is any need for external links here: Perhaps there are some from the time when the Wikis where not hosted at the same Server? So what links exactly do you mean and is there really a problem?

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 18:12, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

No I am talking about inter links. If you look at the section "where to link" it says not to link words for scratch and website even though the wiki has articles for them.

The help page is here, Learning to Link

Coolmanisawesome24 (talk | contribs) Hello there. Time stamp, 15:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks, IMHO:

Surely it doesn't apply to the special situation of the article: Scratch Wiki
Learning to Link says nothing about Interwikilinks an external links. Perhaps this should be changed?
The advising sentence at Learning to Link

"And don't link common words such as "Scratch" and "website", even though the Scratch Wiki has articles for those words."

is a subjective opinion and could be changed. But I will not "fight for this change" ;-)

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 08:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Help:Welcome/2 said links to common articles like "Scratch" and "Scratch Website" should not be added, but in practice, most articles have these links. Therefore, I have removed that sentence on the welcome page.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 22:43, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

@CrazyBoy826: Thanx! :-)

MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 08:41, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Editing..

I really think this article needs to be edited cuz I was just going through the article and noticed a few errors...
-unsigned comment by -Polychrome- (talk | contribs) at 12:59, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

What are the errors? No one can't check them unless you tell them what they are.

cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 13:53, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

-Polychrome- (talk | contribs) 09:07, 18 August 2023 (UTC)::There are a few grammatical errors, should I just include them in a reply?

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