This article is wrong; hacking is when someone actually gets into the database or something like that.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- Check out the quote. It sounds like Jonathanpb was saying otherwise.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:50, 28 February 2013 (UTC)- The quote neither says anything related to things like tricking, etc. nor is from a necessarily reliable source.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:27, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- The quote neither says anything related to things like tricking, etc. nor is from a necessarily reliable source.
Disputed!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 20:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with Veggie.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:39, 28 February 2013 (UTC)- The point I'm trying to make is that the correct definition of "getting into the database" is "cracking", not hacking. "Hacking" wasn't originally malicious. Only "hackers" like Eric Raymond seem to care though... :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 22:11, 28 February 2013 (UTC)- Words change—the definition of hack has evolved to usually, especially to Scratch's target audience, refer to that which has been done with malicious intent.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:39, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- Words change—the definition of hack has evolved to usually, especially to Scratch's target audience, refer to that which has been done with malicious intent.
- The point I'm trying to make is that the correct definition of "getting into the database" is "cracking", not hacking. "Hacking" wasn't originally malicious. Only "hackers" like Eric Raymond seem to care though... :P
There are many types of hacking and definitions of hacking some are (wikipedia has a disambiguation page here). This article seems to say that hacking only means stealing a password. It may be best to move this article to a more specific name or delete it altogether.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 20:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
I think this part is still relevant, and needs to be fixed. In this article, should hacking be defined as actually breaking into the database, or also just as guessing a password?
AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 23:04, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
Guessing and checking
I really doubt that this happens; do we have a reliable source for that section?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 02:48, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
- I think it's common sense. Although, it appears our definitions for words are different here on the wiki.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 03:23, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
Hacker
Here, the hacker is the person who hacks an account, and the hacky is the account who gets hacked.
How does the hacky know who the hacker is?
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
- the Scratch Team does some IP lookup stuff and may or may not choose to tell the hackee
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:02, 7 August 2014 (UTC)- I know that the ST does the IP lookup stuff but I don't know what their policy on telling the other user is.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:40, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
- I know that the ST does the IP lookup stuff but I don't know what their policy on telling the other user is.
SQL Injection
I don't think the section on SQL injection should be here. There's next to no chance of it on Scratch (as far as I know), and it's likely to just cause users who are unfamiliar with it to worry.
Djdolphin (talk | contribs) 05:01, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- I agree with djdolphin. I'm fairly Scratch sanitizes database queries, so SQL injection wouldn't even work.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:13, 14 December 2014 (UTC)- Isn't this supposed to be a generalized page? Eh whatever.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 14:19, 14 December 2014 (UTC)- yeah, this page doesn't really talk about specifics in hacking, just what to do when hacked, etc. (don't want to teach users hacking!) agree with the worrying part!
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:08, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, we've gotten a complaint on this article here: ( https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/98290/ ) so yeah, it kind of frightened somebody.. :P
Scratchifier (talk | contribs) 19:59, 14 March 2015 (UTC)- Okay. When I discovered that section, I thought that this could teach people how to hack so I stamped that warning on there. Not sure
PrincessPandaLover (talk | contribs) 13:37, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
- Okay. When I discovered that section, I thought that this could teach people how to hack so I stamped that warning on there. Not sure
- Well, we've gotten a complaint on this article here: ( https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/98290/ ) so yeah, it kind of frightened somebody.. :P
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:08, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
- yeah, this page doesn't really talk about specifics in hacking, just what to do when hacked, etc. (don't want to teach users hacking!) agree with the worrying part!
- Isn't this supposed to be a generalized page? Eh whatever.
Idea
Is it really a good idea to have a hacking engine here, anyone could use it?
Except (talk | contribs) 01:12, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
Crackers, not hackers
Blob8108 brought up this concern in 2013, but it was sadly forgotten. "Hacking" refers to a programmers subculture, not breaking into computers. However, the media distorted the term's meaning, causing possible confusion that paints hackers in the original sense in a bad light.
Chibi-Matoran (talk | contribs) 03:54, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
- ^ Bump!
Chibi-Matoran (talk | contribs) 16:06, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
Add notice for security researchers
I can imagine a security researcher scouring the Scratch Wiki in search of a contact address for disclosing security issues. It'd be great if we could point those researchers to the "Contact Us" address for such disclosure, and to include "[SECURITY]" in the subject header. Thoughts?
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 13:49, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
- You mean point it out here? Sure, makes sense.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:52, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
Not useful
This page is not related to Scratch, which means it should not be its own article. The code on this page also could be used for malicious purposes and sets a bad example. Many readers of the wiki are younger children, and the wiki is supposed to be safe for all ages.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 01:51, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
- I agree with you. This article should not be on the wiki, going by the reasons you stated. Anyone could easily access and obtain this information and use it in bad ways, which is not the example we would want to set, especially for younger users.
Filmlover12 Talk Contribs Scratch 16:19, 26 April 2022 (UTC)- I agree with that for reasons already stated. It should probably be deleted, in my opinion.
Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 01:42, 27 April 2022 (UTC)- Just because an article is not related to Scratch, doesn't necessarily mean it can't be an article (for example, we have articles on pi). This article is generally informative on what hacking is, how to prevent it, and actions to take. However, the SQL Injection section is unnecessary and should be removed - NOT the entire page.
KangaCoder talk • contribs • profile 14:04, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
- Just because an article is not related to Scratch, doesn't necessarily mean it can't be an article (for example, we have articles on pi). This article is generally informative on what hacking is, how to prevent it, and actions to take. However, the SQL Injection section is unnecessary and should be removed - NOT the entire page.
- I agree with that for reasons already stated. It should probably be deleted, in my opinion.