Talk:Cloud Data

The 'Sneak Peek' is still up

April Fools day has already passed, but the 'sneak peek' for the April Fools Day edition is still up (as if it was still before April Fools Day 2014). Shouldn't this be taken down?
Goldfish678 (talk | contribs) 01:24, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

no, the "sneak peek" should not be taken down.
Lesanualbert07 (talk | contribs) 15:10, 10 April 2022 (UTC)

Are you talking about something else? The template they were suggesting to remove was removed six years ago.
Jackson49 (talk | contribs) 19:55, 11 April 2022 (UTC)

More Info?

The video doesn't really explain how this works, it just shows what it does, perhaps someone who has prealpha could add a bit of info on how to create cloud variables or any related blocks (if there are any). Or maybe not, I dunno how much info you're allowed to release.
WeirdF (talk | contribs) 20:16, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

The Scratch Day '011 prealpha didn't have cloud variables, but there is more information on them available in a very long video on ScratchEd. We should also have quite a bit more info on them next week.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 21:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

One of the things I read on the forums was that Cloud Data updates only every two seconds, which makes multiplayer games much more tedious to make.
Chainmanner (talk | contribs) 16:00, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

A recent test i did showed only about one second.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 21:37, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

Why aren't there cloud variables in the beta version?

I need cloud variables for a project I'm working on.
Davidkt (talk | contribs) 00:20, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

They are temporarily disabled as the ST irons out some glitches. And please ask these questions on the beta forums. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:39, 2 February 2013 (UTC)

Citation for Chat rooms?

Where exactly was it revealed that chatrooms shared to the public would be banned? I placed a ^{[citation needed]} sticker because this has no proof linking to it.
Chainmanner (talk | contribs) 01:34, 3 February 2013 (UTC) EDIT: Never mind, found a forum link to a discussion about it.

No, it's not all chatrooms. Whitelisted ones are allowed but I think they get marked NFE.
Pig9992005 (talk | contribs) 21:38, 20 December 2016 (UTC) 21:38, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Will the Beta not have cloud variables ever?

I thought they were only disabled during the early part of the beta.
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 00:55, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

The Scratch Team's version os early is really the whole thing in this case. It will be activated a few days before the final release of Scratch 2.0
~Curiouscrab (talk) 01:41, 13 March 2013 (UTC)

So that means that the full version will be released soon? :P
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 22:25, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

new username block

I noticed in Hardmath123's nice script, there was no username used since it was around at the time. Should it be added?
~Curiouscrab (talk) 16:14, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Maybe. If I get some time, I might take the pictures.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:04, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

I did it.
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 22:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

"Unreleased" tag

To quote the template, it says future version of Scratch. However, it'll still be 2.0. Why should it still be there?
Firedrake969 (talk | contribs) 22:41, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

A future version of 2.0 though. The unreleased template belongs if the page contains information about something that is not currently in Scratch but is going to be.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

It is possible to add a word filter to a project. If chat rooms are illegal due to the possibility of using profanities, insults, threats, or suggestive content, this could be a loophole. Why are chat rooms illegal?
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 19:58, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The wiki is not the place to discuss this; this is simply the place to discuss the article itself and its content.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

So where is this supposed to be discussed?
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 22:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The Scratch Forums. ;)
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 23:22, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

The Suggestions Forum is for suggestions, not questions of this kind!
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 12:26, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

So ask in Questions about Scratch.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Issue with the "Usage" Section

It says "Warning! These free-chat cloud variable projects are not allowed on the site like the one shown". Uh, then why are we showing how to make it if it's not even allowed?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:10, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Good question. Maybe it should be how to do a high-score keeper instead. Or maybe we shouldn't have it at all, and have tutorials on their own pages.

(I fixed your sig btw, since somehow it was in the middle of your post.)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 06:07, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Update Behavior

The page said that cloud variables would update automatically without the user needing to restart the project with the green flag. In my experience, this is not actually true.

Here is an example of a project built on this premise, that does not appear to work: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/48167288/

This is another: http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/49453352/

Some mistakes?

I have made a test, and while scratch rejects text, it accepts non integers that are numbers: for example, 2.7 and so while "number" sounds less technical than "integer" I think it should be replaced. Also, if a Cloud Variable is prepended with "0x" then the rest of the variable may be hexadecimal, i.e. contain also the "digits" A-F. They can also use a-f case sensitively, so with some case detection one can use base-22 with the digits 0123456789abcdefABCDEF however it is easier to convert back from base-16 in Scratch:

set [☁ MyHexVar v] to [0xf] //15 in decimal
set [decimalVar] to ((☁ MyHexVar) / (1)) //To convert back (you can use * too)
say (join (join(☁ MyHexVar)[ as a decimal is ])(decimalVar))

So may I replace "numbers" with "integers" and explain that you can use letters in Cloud Variables using hex? Or is that already stated in another artilce and this should be as simple as possible?
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs)

I think I should change the "integers" to "numbers" now, but does anybody have any opinions on adding a section for hex?

Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs)

In Using Hexadecimals section.

Hello! I would like to have a change on Check that the case matches too here block. This block is not a valid block, and not showing the formula for checking would be a bad example. Could someone change that for me (I have no experience in this)? Thanks,
DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 19:42, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

I personally think that it is fine because it links to a case detecting article in the paragraph above it.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 21:39, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

this shouldn't be merged

This shouldn't be merged because cloud data is different from data blocks. Just because something is about data doesn't mean it should be merged with the data blocks article.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 15:42, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

But Cloud Data is a *subset* of Data. A type of data.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 15:55, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

But just because an article is about data doesn't mean it should be merged with the data blocks article.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 15:58, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

While that is true, the same holds for everything. For example, variables should not be merged with data because "just because it is to do with data, that does not mean it should be merged".
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 16:05, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Variables and data are different things.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 16:16, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Variables are a *type* of data, so one should be a section in another.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 16:46, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Cloud data is a pretty important topic and is very important on its own. I don't think we should merge it for that reason. If you look at the length of this article (and I don't see any sections that are obviously unnecessary), it is way too long to include as a section in another article. In general individual articles should be created for things significant enough to merit their own article (for example the paint editor has an article separate from the project editor but individual tools in the paint editor don't have their own articles). In this case cloud data is very important and has importance that goes well beyond the rest of the data blocks (e.g. the social significance, number-string encoders, etc.).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:00, 15 December 2016 (UTC)

Unlogical redirect

Resolved (since an unknown date)

Cloud lists are a way other question than what cloud data is. I feel like redirecting cloud lists to this page is unlogical.
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 10:01, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

I’ve merged the heading with the section on encoding/decoding - it should provide better clarification to redirected users.
MasterofTheBrick (talk | contribs) 03:26, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Something About Logs not Working.

Should something be added about how currently the logs for cloud data are not working? Or is there too little information currently?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 06:27, 18 November 2023 (UTC)