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We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"

MainThread #We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"
SubThread1 #Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help
SubThread2 #Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language
SubThread3 #New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more
SubThread4 #Not Done!

Introduction

After presenting at de:Scratch2015AMS (see [1]) (and before at de:Scratch2013BCN see[2]) we have some just starting International Scratch Wikis. We found out, that there is much more work, than me de:user:Mtwoll, de:user:LiFaytheGoblin and de:user:akhof can handle.

We just started international Scratch-Wikis where we were sure, that there are Scratchers of that language that would really work hard for their Scratch-Wiki, but it seems that those people all need help, coaching and motivation, to cope with the problems of a just started Wiki: It seems that only id: is completely on the right track until now (Thanks to id:user:Rumanti, who made a great start and motivated some other Indonesian Scartchers to help). ru: is also evolving slowly but there seem to be too less active authors with just ru:user:Dimon4ezzz and ru:user:Timkoiko. With ja: we have great hopes in ja:user:Jp86143 and ja:user:Abee who just started. But hu: and nl: are still in a kind of "starting position".

In opposite to the English and German Scratch-wiki the starting Scratch-Wiki-Authors have no templates and existing articles where they can look up what is needed and mostly less experiance in Wikimedia-Syntax. Also some of them have problems with the English language: Naturally they know it, but everything lasts longer with misunderstandings and so on. (My English isn't perfect either, but where is a will there is a way ;-) Ironically the language-communities that have the biggest problems with English language need a Scratch-Wiki the most. Imagine the English Scratch-Wiki had nearly zero articles and templates and you could only see other wikis in languages that you know only a little bit. Also imagine that your Scratch community was not so big than the english-language one (see Wikipedia: World_language#Living world languages).

How would you start? Therefore I'm asking you for your help: Who of you wants to get „International Scratch Wiki Coach "? You would get an account and perhaps also admin-rights at all existing international wikis (depending on your activity). You should be an experienced Scratch-Wiki author in the English Wiki (>1 year membership and >300 edits?). We already have some de:Scratch-Wiki:Team_Mitglieder#Interwiki Autoren but that's only Interwiki, not coaching. It would really be great, if some of the English Scratch-Wiki-Admins would also apply for this job: They would immediately get Admin rights at all other international Wikis and perhaps also FTP-rights, if they are experienced with that "under the hood"-stuff. To see what goes on, we have made de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. There are also many other ideas from the International Scratch-Wiki-Community (e.g. automized-account-application everywere, multinational-accounts like in Wikipedia, international templates, Scratch-Projects inside the Scratch-Wiki like we have it in DACH, international Blocks Plugin support, #Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?, conecting scratch-wikis as a part of the scratch-editor-help…)...

...but let's begin with the beginning :-) Who wants to help and applies for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:16, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

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Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help

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answer of TheHockeyist

answer of KrIsMa

answer of ErnieParke

answer of jvvg

answer of Mathfreak231

answer of Rumanti

answer of Eribetra

answer of OurPrincess

Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language

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@All: Am I right that all of you know this Forum Thread? Diskussionsforen » Translating Scratch » Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language (New)] . user:ErnieParke created it and sort of curates it (Thank you very much Ernie!). There are some other language communities that could be ready to start with their own native wiki in the future.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)

Link-Table: Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts

I put a Table here that shows de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch#Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts. Please feel free to correct it if there are any mistakes.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)

New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal? In de:Scratch-Wiki:Gemeinschafts-Portal it is no problem (but in and id:Pembicaraan_Scratch-Indo-Wiki:Portal_Komunitas it seems to be, just tried it...).
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 14:00, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

Embedding of Scratch Projects

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Hey! :) I was thinking it'd be cool if we could embed Scratch projects into the wiki. They could be used in place of the existing example projects in the Pen Projects article, used on certain tutorial pages to demonstrate an expected result or even show a process more easily using an animation.

At the moment, you can't use the <iframe> tag required for embedding a Scratch project on the wiki. I've done a little research, and it looks like the easiest way to allow iframes would be to install this Media Wiki plugin. The good thing about this extension is that it doesn't allow the embedding of any iframe, it can be configured to only allow the embedding of Scratch projects, for example.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 22:02, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Help:Contents Is missing some help pages

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There are a few help pages which aren't in Help:Contents, for some reason.
We need to fix that.
Yzyzyz (talk | contribs) 14:07, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Account Request Notes

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I, when, recently doing account requests (yes, I do still use this thing) I have noticed that I am not learning much about what this user wants to edit and why they want to join the wiki. I like this system which identifies things to fix, but I feel that we should also add back some of the old application. I suggest adding the wiki experience, why they should be accepted, and an article to edit, and then have the current Find 3 Add 2 system. Opinions?
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 02:34, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Take Example:

There is a capital S in the word "Screen" in the middle of a sentence that should not be capitalized. There is a dead link to the page "Oranges." There is the first person used under the paragraph called "Pineapples." It would be possible to add a section about Kiwis under the header of "Awesome Fruits." It would be possible to add a picture of an orange to the section titled "Oranges". The secret word is "Bananas"

With this example (which is totally about fruits) as long as they use complete sentences and basically fit this point:

In the request notes, does the user properly identify at least 3 flaws in the flawed article and 2 things to add?
Saying "I found a grammar error" is not clear
Users must actually make sense of what they are talking about.
If the specific examples of what they would add to the flawed article are not allowed on the Wiki (e.g. writing about their projects), fully reject if there was little effort, partially reject if it seems like you could get more ideas out of them or explain to them why it's not allowed.

Then they can be accepted into the wiki. This system, In my opinion, only tests the reading comprehension and if the user can write in complete sentences. It shows nothing about if the user can navigate the wiki or know what they want to edit. We get nothing of why they deserve to be a wikian. I belie these systems need to be combined.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 02:45, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

Not Done doesn't get enough attention

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So I was browsing through Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done and realized that all of the discussions had been moved there and left to rot simply because they happened to last longer than an archive period. I suggest that we do at least one of the following things:

Don't have a separate Not Done page at all and keep the not done discussions on the main CP.: This would be effective but not feasible.
Pros: Great at keeping attention on topics.
Cons: Would likely break links and increase CP loading time.

Link to them in a more obvious way: This would be feasible but potentially not effective.
Pros: Saves space, keeps links.
Cons: Doesn't really solve the problem. Nobody wants to click an extra link just to get to topics they might not even care that much about. From my point of view, people comment on discussions because they're new and they want to get their opinion in. When a discussion takes an extra click to get to and has been rotting for so long, it no longer is attractive to comment on. Also, the Not Done page actually feels like an archive more than another discussion page - thereby discouraging new comments on it.

Have an entirely separate page for not done topics (maybe "Scratch Wiki talk:Not Done"?).: This would be partially feasible but potentially effective too.
Pros: Wouldn't break links (redirects exist, people), and would remove the feeling of an archive since it's a talk page of its own; would also save space on the actual CP because the content is literally in another page.
Cons: Still needs another click, and still seems too separate from the actual CP.

What are your thoughts? Do you have another suggestion for this problem? Do you have an opinion on or amendment to one of the current suggestions? Discuss!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:12, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

Relax S:NOSP even more

Okay, so the English wiki is obviously by far the most restrictive wiki out of the nine. Especially strict is our rule against user-generated content, S:NOSP. That rule was recently relaxed, to the point where as long as there is at least one Scratch Team member involved, it is allowed.

I feel like we could write so many more articles and have so much more activity, however, if the rule was relaxed further. I propose a relaxation of the rules to the following points:

All of the following are still prohibited:
- All Scratch-prohibited things, including userscripts, iO, and the like
- Particular projects
- Certain forum topics or posts
- Specific studios
- Individual users
Advertising gets kind but firm warnings, three warnings is vandalism, twice vandalism is a block.
All user-generated content articles must have a template denoting them as such.

That means no Paper Minecraft, no Sigton's Shop, no Scratch OS Studio, no Griffpatch; articles about anything else should be allowed by default.

For a quick rule of thumb about what crosses the line under this system, basically specific things are prohibited but collections of them are okay. (Things like studios as collections of projects and forum topics being collections of posts notwithstanding.)

If you think these rules are too relaxed for mainspace articles, I have an alternate proposal. A separate namespace for articles about user-generated content, subject to the following rules:

All Scratch-prohibited things remain prohibited (follow CGs, people!).
Everything else is a go.
Advertising will be treated almost as severely as vandalism, thrice advertising is a block.
The entire namespace is treated as non-content pages (i.e. it's not indexed by default and isn't counted in the {{NUMBEROFARTICLES}} (1,497)) [this rule is open for debate].

The namespace name would be something relevant, e.g. "User Content:" or "UG:" or something.

Which idea would you prefer? What are your thoughts?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:09, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Not Done

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I know someone already brought it up...
Anyways, Not Done is not getting any attention. I know that Kenny2scratch already added “Things To Do” on the left sidebar, and the TOC of Not Done, yet no one seems to notice it. I think that we should release an announcement to all existing editors about ND, and all incoming users about ND on their welcome page. In fact, I’m going to add that to my welcome right now.
Any thoughts?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 23:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions

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It's as it says on the tin.

As part of this new revival of featured images (and leading on from #An Interval for Featured Images, I propose that we create a page similar in concept to S:WWS, where users leave new section saying which image they think deserve to be featured. This will clean up the CP (just slightly). At around the same time as Wiki Wednesday, the EWs/Bureaucrats review the suggestions and pick three images which will then to onto S:FI. If necessary, we could also edit the current Wiki Wednesday suggestion forum post to incorporate Featured Images too.

What do you think?
Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

New page for mall simulators

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Should we make a new page for mall simulators? Mall simulators are sort of big with the biggest mall simulator (Palace of Points) having more than 1400 members. Should we create a page for it?
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 04:55, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Split the Paint Article

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I was browsing the wiki and noticed that the Paint editor article (here) is really long and could possibly be split up into three different articles: History of the paint editor, 2.0 Bitmap Paint editor, and 2.0 Vector Paint Editor.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:55, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Block Problems

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Not done, as blocks are still unfinished or broken
Today I started to finish up the script for How to Evaluate an Expression, and things got out of hand. When I first completed it, I realized I did some of the block loops wrong, and it like wrapped around some things that I didn't want to wrap around, while I also couldn't get this one if then else block to wrap around something else — it was all a mess. I cleaned some of it up, but I am afraid I'll make it worse and I already spent more than an hour on it. Also, I have to save it each time I want to check if it is correct, since for some reason the blocks won't load up in Show preview mode (it appears in code) but loads when the changes are saved. Can somebody please fix up the script to match the one in post #19 in this forum topic?
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:22, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Adventure

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On Wikipedia, there is an option for new Wikians to complete the Wikipedia Adventure. This teaches them skills and covers all the basics of using Wikipedia. I think it'd be a good idea to create a Scratch Wiki Adventure of our own to teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki. This would include editing tips, rules, etiquette, etc. I'm wondering what people's thoughts are on this idea and/or if anyone would like to work with me on creating this.
54329 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

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Currently, the links under the 'Legal' category do not are not mentioned that they are in German. I suggest that the footer mentions that the content under the Legal category are in German.

Without mentioning that, some people might be confused that they are in German, and not English. They also cannot be translated into English without it being inaccurate.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 13:21, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki YT Channel

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Hi everyone! I wanted to put a little feeler out there to see who was interested in participating/creating content for a possible Scratch Wiki YT Channel. We would publish wiki-like content within YT's video format. We could then link to this content from within the Wiki. You could for example create a Scratch tutorial, run-through a certain block or feature, or discuss a recent community venture you participated in. If y'all are interested in seeing this idea come to fruition, please comment to express your interest and volunteer yourself for content creation. Thanks!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:51, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea

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Hello there!

In case you didn't know, I'm a Forum Helper (https://scratch.mit.edu/studios/3688309/) on Scratch, which means I generally help out on the the Scratch discussion forums. One day, I headed over to the Community Portal and it seemed like a sort of "discussion forums" within the Scratch Wiki, and I understand that the concept is different, but for me it personally seemed that way.

Anyways, I mostly help around a lot on the Suggestions forum, which, yet again, redirects to the Community Portal since there are a lot of suggestions for the Scratch Wiki here. One difference is though, that the Scratch Team and some Scratchers (like me) enforce the rule of "constructiveness" while making posts, and I'm pretty sure most of you know what that means but I'll just clarify:

It means that one does not simply post "Support!", "Good idea!", or "+1!" and explain why they like the suggestion, that they provoke discussion, and look for possible issues instead of continuosly leaning on one side, like "I love this suggestion" or "I hate this suggestion"

It means that one does not simply add one sentence to act as if their post is constructive. For example, "Support, because this might be useful for many Wikians!" seems constructive but it isn't really constructive, because they're not stating how it would be useful for many Wikians or why it would be.

Now, I've been looking around in the CP, and I've been seeing a couple of responses just saying "+1!" or merely "Support!" without provoking any further discussion and merely showing your satisfaction. So I thought, maybe, we could enforce the constructive rule on the CP as well. Especially because the ideas here much more mature and complex, and not like Scratch where it's just new blocks or random new features.

I do agree that many people are already following this rule, but maybe just enforce it more? I do think it'll be incredibly helpful for the type of suggestions being given here.

wow... that's... long
Nambaseking01 (talk | contribs) 09:31, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Merging Cloud Data Articles?

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I think that there are far too many articles on Cloud Data. I think these should all be merged or certain ones removed to reduce the amount of potential editing.
ContourLines (talk | contribs) 06:42, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

Suggestion: Have a dedicated page for feedback on the account request system

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I was browsing through some old CP archives, and one of the topics reminded me of a suggestion I thought of earlier. My suggestion may have been partly inspired by an account request I reviewed that included feedback on the account request system.

Currently, I leave users one of two messages if I accept their account request. I use this one if their request meets all the requirements already (I have preserved the external links, since this is how I post it on the Scratch website):

“

Hello, (USERNAME). Congratulations - your Scratch Wiki account request was accepted! You can log in here with the password sent to your email address: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Special:Login Begin here: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:NEW Make sure to follow the guidelines, shown at https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:GUIDES. If you have questions, visit https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:FAQ and if they aren't answered there, feel free to ask me or any other Wikian! Have fun!

”

Now, some people inevitably miss something in S:CONTRIB. When we're reviewing account requests, and someone seems to have put in effort and has not missed too much of S:CONTRIB, we first put their request on hold. We comment on their profile and ask them further questions. If they satisfy the requirements after replying to our comment(s), we accept their request. This is all outlined in Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor/Admin Guide.

This is the comment I leave on people's profiles if I first put their request on hold and then accept it:

“

Thanks, that's all. Congratulations - your Scratch Wiki account request was accepted! You can log in here with the password sent to your email address: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Special:Login Begin here: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:NEW Make sure to follow the guidelines, shown at https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:GUIDES. If you have questions, visit https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/S:FAQ and if they aren't answered there, feel free to ask me or any other Wikian! Have fun!

”

Some Experienced Wikians have a slight variation of this message, but we all link them to Special:Login, S:NEW, S:GUIDES, and S:FAQ (or other shortcuts that link to those pages). Now, why am I mentioning the messages that I use when accepting someone's account request? Well, because those may be changed if my suggestion gets implemented.

What is my suggestion? Well, in short, I think we should have a dedicated page for feedback on our account request system. As a wiki, we should always be looking to improve; and this is a way to do it. People can already give feedback on the account request system (or anything else wiki-related, for that matter) in the CP, but feedback is not actively facilitated. This is why I think we should have a dedicated page.

This page would be specifically designed to be easy-to-use for people who are new to the Scratch Wiki and wikis in general. Users would be able to click a link or button, and the "new section" interface would be filled with a form where they could insert their feedback. The user's signature would be automatically inserted at the end. It would be similar to the link users click to nominate themselves for an EW election.

However, I don't think that the page should just exist — I think we should actively make New Wikians aware of it. When someone gets accepted, the account request system is fresh in their mind, and they may have some ideas on how to improve it. However, they may not know where they can put that feedback, or may be too nervous to make us aware of it. My first thought was to add a link to the page to the messages used when accepting users. If we feel that that already has too much information, we could also add it to S:WELCOME.

Of course, all of this is subject to change. What do y'all think of this idea? Is it a good one? A bad one? Do you have any ideas to make it better? Everyone's feedback is equally valued.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:16, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Tip of the Day

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SWP 005 - Tip of the Day

Description	Status	Owner	Started	Links
Create a panel that will show one tip for each day of the year.	Not done	bigpuppy ahmetlii Illusion705 Groko13 Filmlover12 Jammum garnetluvcookie jakel181 Dominic305 12944qwerty TheTrillion Jackson49 Dahipuri CrazyBoy826 Purin2022 Co0lcr34t10ns	8/22/2020	Project results
				Project page
				Project discussion

I created a Tip of the Day system that will show one tip for each day of the year. It's inspired by Wikipedia's tip of the day. However, we need tips! If you would like to help, feel free to add your name to the project page.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

json Editing

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Many pages have similar instructions on how to access the json inside sb3 and sprite3 files:

Page	Steps Taught
Making Invisible Code	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Hidden Blocks	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
JSON Tutorial	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Scratch Lab#Custom Fonts	extracting, opening, editing and recompressing
Layer (value)#Viewing the Specific Layer Value	extracting, opening
How to Save a Project#Uploading a Project	extracting, opening
Exporting and Importing#Scripts	extracting, opening
Scratch File Format#Project Files	extracting

This could be simplified by using templates with instructions for each step, so maybe such templates should be created.
Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 01:50, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Hide 'Save changes' in the editor until Show Preview is clicked

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This might not be possible, but I think the Save Changes button in the editor should be hidden until Show preview is clicked. If this is possible, this would decrease WikiMonitor warnings for editing too many times.

Apart from the possibility of this being a major problem, some users might be confused that the button is missing.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 18:04, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

About the block

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Many articles on specific Reporter Blocks have paragraphs at the top with messages like:

This scratch wiki talk is about the block. For more information on the value this block reports, see Direction (value).

There could be an {{About the block}} template (or one with a similar name) to take a value's article's name as its argument, and create a paragraph with:

{{about|the block|more information on the value this block reports|[[{{{1}}}]]}}

Such a template could be used on the pages:

Mlcreater (talk | contribs) 02:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Expanding 3D projects

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So it looks like a few users are creating more articles on 3D projects, so we should probably have a well-defined approach to this. We need to decide: what is worth including/not including, how will we organize them, what deserves its own article vs. being part of another article, and what amount of depth they should go into.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:24, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Horizontal Blocks

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The user on the forums suggested that we make an article about horizontal blocks, pointing out that the French Wiki already has one. (You can see a Google translated version of the French Wiki article here) I am hesitant to make that its own article here since horizontal blocks were never actually released, and we are not a Wiki about ScratchJr (we document that it exists and what it is, but that is mostly just contained within that article). However, it may be worth including in Development of Scratch 3.0. Thoughts?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:13, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Would this be an ok article?

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Would list of stickys in the forums be a good enough article?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) 15:51, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Can we make all dicussions be on separate pages?

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This scratch wiki forum is so cluttered up
PenguinLover1123 (talk | contribs) 19:59, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

A draft namespace suggestion

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I think there should be a new namespace (similar to Wikipedia's Draft: namespace) for mostly incomplete pages or for pages that have the Wiki Standards template and need a lot of edits to the entire page to meet editing guidelines. Such namespace could be called Draft:, WIP: or something similar.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 15:55, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

Proposal for new scratch:explore style content-actions tabs

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Hi all,

There is a new proposal for "page", "discussion", etc. tabs currently found in the pencil menu to be included in tabs at the top of the page (which could be instead of or in addition to the pencil menu) in the style of the Scratch Explore page.

The pull request, which includes mock-up screenshots, can be found here: https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2/pull/95 However, please keep discussion that isn't code review on this topic.

There are several things that still need discussion:

Is this change even necessary?
I think so, because this location for the actions is a click less.
Should these tabs replace the pencil menu?
I think not, because the original explore tab design is unfortunately not very accessible at all... The contrast is simply far too low. The original menu can remain as a more accessible alternative.

However, it's also not completely out of the question to mildly modify the tabs to be more accessible.
1. If so, should the pencil now-button remain (perhaps as a quick edit button) or be removed completely?
Should this be made a user preference?
1. If so, opt-in or out?
Current behavior is to still not have these tabs (i.e. hide them) for anonymous users. Is this ideal?
I'd say so: readers won't be using those links and it would only be visual clutter for them (while being convenient for editors).

This is a major change to Wiki interface design, so I would appreciate as much community input as possible.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:13, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

Suggestion: Warn users if they add first or second person pronouns to an article

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I think it is very common for more newer users to use first or second person articles to mainspace articles, even though not doing so is part of the guidelines (implying that that section might have been skimmed over) So, I think users should be warned in the editor if they introduce non-third person articles, explaining that the wiki is supposed to look professional and that third person pronouns must be used.

Since quotes and reference citations must be put in articles as it was originally written (unless it needs to fit the Scratch Guidelines), and articles like My Blocks have to use the word 'my', I think a template should be used to mark where it is okay to puy first and second person pronouns (and would not be triggering a warning) or what is used to detect the pronouns could skip over quotes and references as well as the template.

I think AbuseFilter can warn users if a certain condition is met, but there might be a chance warning users for using these pronouns in mainspace articles could be a bit too complex.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 07:16, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

The Wiki now has (beta) dark theme!

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The Wiki interface now has a dark theme! This theme is still in beta - expect issues. You can enable it in Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering. Please report any issues you encounter on this CP topic or in the Wiki forum topic.

We're already aware of some compatibility issues, but please mention whatever you see. Please report issues by adding them to the list in the following format:

* Issue https://link.to/screenshot~~~~

Please use an approved Image Host for your screenshot. (assets.scratch.mit.edu, while approved for the forums, requires downloading the image, so I ask that you do not use it.) Note also:

We are prioritizing cases where the interface is actually unusable (e.g. dark-theme-white text on light-theme-white background) over cases where regular light theme styling is appearing in the midst of dark theme styling.
Some issues specific to the English Scratch Wiki's templates require the use of template-specific styling to solve, which is not currently available and would also be a change with larger implications.

Thanks!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:11, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

https://scratch-wiki.info

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The page [3] has some visual problems. The link "Scratch" in the description is colored very similarly to the background. Also, the wiki logos are on a dark background, which makes some parts unreadable. For example, the "wiki" in the English wiki logo does not have a border, which means it is difficult to see. Also, the Dutch wiki logo has background removal mistakes which are easily seen. Could this page be improved to remove these problems?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 23:28, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Suggestion: Rule page for welcome templates

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If it is considered necessary, I think a page on rules on custom welcome templates could be created. Some things it could mention include the 5 welcome templates maximum per talk page, that users should think that they know enough about Wiki contributing to state that they can help users on talk pages, and possibly less likely (although covered by the Wiki guidelines as well), using proper spelling and grammar in welcome templates.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 15:19, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

Encourage user talk page topics that only say hello to go on Scratch profiles instead

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I think that user talk page topics where users only say hello (except welcome templates and messages) should go on users' Scratch profiles, as I think they are not very Wiki-related, might be a very broad and/or generic topic, and they take a very short amount of time to write.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 10:55, 21 February 2022 (UTC) modified 16:24, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

Tip of the Day

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The Tip of the Day project was started some time ago. I think it is a very good idea, but not much work has been done on it. It will take a very long time before we have 366 tips (one for each day of the year).

Instead of having that many tips, we can start with the tips we have and randomly post one on Scratch Wiki Home each day. There are already enough tips to start doing this. Having the tips on Scratch Wiki Home will also encourage more editors to add tips. (At User:CrazyBoy826/Scratch Wiki Home, there is a version of the home page with a section for tips.)

Instead of having one tip for each day of the year, we can have a human (or bot) randomly select one of the tips to be posted on the home page (similar to how News works). This will encourage more editors to suggest tips that we can post later.

Thoughts and suggestions?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 19:10, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

Give the navigation box, tools box and for editors box the `position: fixed;` property

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This would help a lot. For example, if I'm at the bottom of the community portal, I have to scroll all the way up to purge it. But is the boxes had the position: fixed; property they would stay in one place.
Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 02:44, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Rule Change

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I beleive the last rule of S:PRO should be changed, the wiki is for information for the community. If everyone already knew it we wouldn't have a wiki.
han614698 talk • contribs (2,191) • profile 23:48, 26 November 2022 (UTC)

TurboWarp Template

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Some projects are really laggy, and crash browsers if you try them with scratch. How about making a template for it?

Note:

I've made some code for it here

Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:59, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

Update on the MediaWiki version upgrade

Hi everyone,

I have mentioned before that we intend to upgrade the Wiki to MediaWiki 1.39. The main thing standing in our way was upgrading all of our custom logic and checking for anything that would be affected by the breaking changes. I am happy to report that I was able to set up a Wiki with all of our custom extensions, and all previously identified issues have been resolved. Some more testing will still be needed to make sure that there aren't any other breaking changes (version 1.39 seems to have a lot of them), but with any luck I'll have another update in a week or two. Thank you to our engineering team for their work in bringing everything up to date, especially kenny2scratch and apple502j.

Thank you everyone for your patience.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:34, 28 January 2023 (UTC)

Add `image-rendering: pixelated` to the pixelated emoji

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As visualized in User:Mybearworld/Demo, the emoji can get a little blurry when scrolling. Could someone who has the necessary priveleges surround all the pixelated emoji with <span style="image-rendering:pixelated">...</span>?
mybearworld • Talk • Contributions • Profile 18:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

New navbox suggestion

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I am proposing a new 'Scratch Events' navbox for pages in Category:Scratch Events and subcategories. I am mainly proposing this because several of the Scratch Camp pages link to several of the other Camp pages, which some of them might be inconsistent, and it might be useful to link from other non-Camp events from others.

The page is currently stored in my sandbox for drafting.
Jammum (💬 Talk - ✍️ Contribs) 10:49, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Scratch 0.x pages rework

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There are currently 15 Scratch 0.x pages on the Wiki (plus an extra one that's a work in progress), although there are many more 0.x versions. However, making a page for every single 0.x version would be unfeasible and pointless since there are over 100 0.x versions that have been discovered. I suggest that pages should be made for versions in a specific time frame (for example, "Scratch versions from April to June of 2006") rather than pages for specific versions.
Ametz807 (talk | contribs) 22:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Project Idea

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I have recently discovered TOTD and have begun adding some of my tips. Knowing how these projects work, I had an idea of another one that can be used on the front page: "Did You Know...?" Inspired by Wikipedia's DYK, this project is similar to the TOTD's format, but with a focus on obscure facts about Scratch rather than tips. These can be submitted by whoever wants to and will NOT cycle, meaning they will be taken from an infinitely growing pool at random, maybe using random.org. Thing is, I have no idea how to make templates, or do any fancy MediaWiki stuff. Is anyone willing to help?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 11:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Proposal: Add the ability to add multiple pages as parameters for {{main}}

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I feel like adding the ability to add multiple pages as parameters for {{main}}, simliar to {{see also}} is a good one because this can prevent the absolute chaos of having multiple {{main}}s in a single (sub)heading, like in Hidden Blocks#Counter. Yes, that will cause a bit of trouble in deciding whether to use page or article, but that can be solved with a bit of logic mess. ~~(or maybe just add Lua to the wiki like in Wikipedia)~~
Purin2022 | 💬Talk | 📝Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Search this talk page and it's archives not working

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The Search this Talk page and it's archives button on the Community Portal doesn't work correctly. If you type something into the box and press the button, it brings you to a search page that says 'Only searching in pages whose title starts with "Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#"'. However, there are results outside of the Community Portal.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 16:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Date Formatting on Articles

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There are 2 used ways to format dates in article titles:

You can write it as (Month Date, Year) like in American English. Example: Studio Update (July 6, 2021)
Or you can write it as on Date Month Year like in the rest of the world. Example: Filterbot Outage on 12 April 2022

But we have to be consistent. Which one should the whole wiki use? In my opinion, the second one (DMY) is better. Either one we pick, we should probably add the prefered date format to the Editing Conventions as there currently isn't a clear guideline on which one.

PS: Well, technicially it's implying that the second one should be used since the EC is saying that American Spelling Conventions are to be used. However, some people (myself included) disagree on it, so we might just discuss it.
Purin2022 | 💬Talk | 📝Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposal to replace Discussion Invitation System notifications with pings

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Currently, the discussion invitation system uses talk page notifications to notify prospective discussion contributors. Now that we have Echo installed and can ping users, I am proposing that if we want to bring in a DIS user, instead of leaving a talk page message, we ping them using the mention template. This has two main benefits: it avoids cluttering talk pages and it gives a record in the original discussion of who was invited. Any thoughts on this?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Conflicting Browsers when Taking Screenshots

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Recently, Purin2022 (talk | contribs) and I were talking here about taking screenshots depending on what browser. There are some things that differ from browser to browser (like File:Report a project - Selecting Other.png idk how to make the image link but not show up on the page. We already obviously don't take screenshots on mobile devices, so my question is, what do we do in this situation? (The specific issue for this one is the highlighting of the image looks different in Chrome and Firefox)
han614698 talk • contribs (2,191) • profile 21:56, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Templates in Deleted Category

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There are 27 templates in the deleted category, Category:Template_Redirects. Would it be okay to remove this categorization from these 27 templates?
han614698 talk • contribs (2,191) • profile 22:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Admin Panel Imagery...

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I recently did some (deep) digging and found some archives of now-deleted forum topics... Turns out, in 2014 the admin panel was available for one day (I saw @jvvg did post on one of the topics). Here are the images that I found (one is hosted by me, one is not): https://imgur.com/a/5rKPT https://u.cubeupload.com/han614698/ADMINPANEL1.png Are these something that we want on the wiki and is there a good spot for them?
han614698 talk • contribs (2,191) • profile 22:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

Should there be a "Guidance for young editors" page?

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Should there be a "Guidance for young editors" page on the Scratch Wiki? If so, then it might have the shortcut "S:YOUNG".
RSITYTScratch (talk | contribs) 14:32, 5 May 2024 (UTC)

Wiki "Drought"?

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Little to no edits are being made on mainspace pages. Almost all the edits in "Recent Changes" are for userspace pages. Is it possible that we have documented all there is about scratch, and until the next update/version, it will stay that way? What I mean by that is because a certain feature is well documented, it doesnt get meaningful edits. all just typo corrections and such. The same thing is happening with talk pages, they are very very inactive.
Elithecoder12345 (talk | contribs) 19:12, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

Help the wiki!

Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done

We need your help: Apply for getting "International Scratch Wiki Coach"

TOC

Introduction

Individual Threads with scratch-wiki-authors that want to help

answer of TheHockeyist

answer of KrIsMa

answer of ErnieParke

answer of jvvg

answer of Mathfreak231

answer of Rumanti

answer of Eribetra

answer of OurPrincess

Forum Thread: Scratch Wiki in Your Native Language

Link-Table: Authors wih multiple Scratch-Wiki-Accounts

New Idea for the future of international Scratch-Wiki or even more

Challenges:

Solution:

Discussion:

First Successes

Test-Scratch-Wiki is online!

Not Done!

Why is Interwiki not possible in the english community-portal?

Not Done

Embedding of Scratch Projects

Help:Contents Is missing some help pages

Account Request Notes

Not Done doesn't get enough attention

Relax S:NOSP even more

Not Done

Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions

New page for mall simulators

Split the Paint Article

Block Problems

Scratch Wiki Adventure

Suggestion: Mention that the Privacy Policy and Disclaimers are in German

Scratch Wiki YT Channel

Constructiveness in Community Portal - An Idea

Merging Cloud Data Articles?

Suggestion: Have a dedicated page for feedback on the account request system

Tip of the Day

json Editing

Hide 'Save changes' in the editor until Show Preview is clicked

About the block

Expanding 3D projects

Horizontal Blocks

Would this be an ok article?

Can we make all dicussions be on separate pages?

A draft namespace suggestion

Proposal for new scratch:explore style content-actions tabs

Suggestion: Warn users if they add first or second person pronouns to an article

The Wiki now has (beta) dark theme!

https://scratch-wiki.info

Suggestion: Rule page for welcome templates

Encourage user talk page topics that only say hello to go on Scratch profiles instead

Tip of the Day

Give the navigation box, tools box and for editors box the position: fixed; property

Rule Change

TurboWarp Template

Update on the MediaWiki version upgrade

Add image-rendering: pixelated to the pixelated emoji

New navbox suggestion

Scratch 0.x pages rework

Wiki Project Idea

Proposal: Add the ability to add multiple pages as parameters for {{main}}

Search this talk page and it's archives not working

Date Formatting on Articles

Proposal to replace Discussion Invitation System notifications with pings

Conflicting Browsers when Taking Screenshots

Templates in Deleted Category

Admin Panel Imagery...

Should there be a "Guidance for young editors" page?

Wiki "Drought"?

Give the navigation box, tools box and for editors box the `position: fixed;` property

Add `image-rendering: pixelated` to the pixelated emoji