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We need to have a disclaimer

Now that we are not related to MIT, we need a disclaimer page covering the following points:

• The Scratch Wiki is not sponsored or controlled by MIT
• Scratch is a project of the Lifelong Kindergarten Group at the MIT Media Lab
• Though vandalism is rare here since accounts have to be approved, it does happen once in a while and viewers should be aware of that

And any other potential legal points that might arise. Thoughts?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:08, 17 February 2018 (CET)

Nice idea!

asqwde talk | contribs 10:11, 17 February 2018 (CET)

my idea:whenever something is copyrighted or trademarked, we won't add (C) or (R)
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 15:10, 17 February 2018 (CET)

See a draft of the disclaimer here: User:Kenny2scratch/Sandbox 2#Scratch Wiki:General disclaimer
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:20, 17 February 2018 (CET)

Something is wrong. "a limited license to copy"? according to FAQ and your talk, this wiki is in public domain.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 23:31, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Fixed.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:09, 18 February 2018 (CET)

@Kenny2scratch+Apple502j: Thank you very much for making + improving that first draft of the disclaimer that already looks good to me.

@Admins+EWs: Please have a look at this important issue and comment, if there is a need for improvement. We should put the new disclaimer policy in effect asap.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:18, 18 February 2018 (CET)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Good idea. We should

• Add more stuff
• Actually make the page
  290Scratcher (talk | contribs) 16:29, 18 February 2018 (CET)

wrong 2:pico,giga,nano,tera is also trademarked
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:53, 19 February 2018 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure in the terms of use it says that all scratch assets (which would include pico, giga, nano, tera, etc.) are under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike. should we say that?
Goldfish678 (talk | contribs) 23:05, 25 February 2018 (CET)

@Apple502j: Only the Scratch Cat and Gobo are trademarked, according to Scratch's ToU.

@290Scratcher: We need to make sure that the drafts are ok legalese-wise since once we put them up they are actually legal documents. We're not going to make the pages until we have everyone's ok on the quality of the drafts.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:39, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

Tera,Pico,Giga,and Nano are,too, according to GitHub's scratch-flash.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 13:05, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. Changed.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:48, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to make Japanese translation for ja wiki. I'm translating it.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 07:58, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

 Done Scratch Wiki:General disclaimer
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ No,  Not done, the disclaimer hasn't been vetted yet. I made an executive decision to implement it as it currently stands but it would be great to have an actual lawyer look over it, rather than my amateur law knowledge.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:15, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

I would recommend to end a line at the disclaimer in other languages than german stating :"This translation of the German disclaimer text is a service offer and not legally binding! For questions concerning jurisdictional liability, please consider the official German version." This is a standard approach in multi-languages webpages and will save us throuble of hiring a (japanese, english, french, russian, dutch, ...) lawyer.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 16:38, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

InterwikiBot/GA_Stats

 Not done

@Ernie: Could you care for the Stat-Bots?
Wouldn't it be great to create international stats for all scratch wikis at the long term, where you see multiple data about clicks, edits, useres etc. at once for all languages? Is it possible to get in the direction of https://scratch.mit.edu/statistics/ ?
@All: Questions?Thought?

• de:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - seems to run - last updated Feb. 28
• ja:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - last updated Jan. 23
• ru:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - last updated Jun. 27 2017 - one russian wiki editor did not like it but now he is inactive anyway
• id:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - last updated Jan. 23
• nl:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - last updated Jan. 23
• hu:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - ???
• tw:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - seems to run - last updated Feb. 28 - Seems to refelect Wiki Wednesday activities - link is missing in the left menu bar (like the others have)
• en:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - does not exist until now because we had no access to google analytics on the english scratch wiki until now, instead we had: User:InterwikiBot/International Stats + the issue: #en: should work here: "Interwiki to myself" makes sense

 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  12:30, 1 March 2018 (CET)

@ErnieParke: Hello?

@All: Questions?Thought?
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  15:45, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It would be nice to have all the Google Analytics data presented in one place, instead of showing local activity on each wiki (though each wiki should link to the central presentation page too). Since it seems most appropriate, I'd say the central analytics should be on the Test wiki... maybe tw:Test-Scratch-Wiki:Statistics?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:44, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree that these statistics are interesting! I'd like to see them in one page! -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 17:06, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

I also agree that a combined statistic was good, but it should be easy accessible from each wiki in any case. Hopefully ErnieParke materializes in this thread, because he made the stat-bot, we're talking about.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  17:10, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

CET)

@ErnieParke: Hello? ;-)
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:02, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Ernie answered:

“	ErnieParke - Today at 7:09 AM I'll do that later today when I have some free time. ErnieParke - Today at 10:21 AM It appears that's because we moved wikis and I forgot to update links.	”
– ErnieParke at Discord

Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 01:24, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

oh time zone is JST (UTC+9 Scratch Time+14)
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 01:25, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

As a slight status update, I am currently wrestling with some obscure Java bugs that have cropped up. This will take a bit longer then expected.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 05:52, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

The GA stats, as well as "International Stats" page, are back up and running.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:41, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ernie: Thank you!🙂 But:

• ja:User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats - still: last updated Jan. 23
   MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:12, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

Regular Scratch TV show in japanese public TV

I‘m realy facinated about: googletranslated article about regular Scratch TV show in japanese public TV. NHK is a realy big broadcasting channel in Japan and they seem to have a weekly show about Scratch. So that‘s imho the reason that scratch is so popular in Japan and the japanese Scratch Wiki is growing so fast! The TV show itself looks like a japanese style Sesame Street about learning to code“ 😀( see here ). I would like to transfer that brilliant japanese idea, to motivate more kids to start programming, to other contries specially to germany where we also have big public broadcasting organizations. I met abee (see de:WhoIsWhoInTheScratchCommunity#Kazuhiro_Abe) and people of the japanese TV at Scratch Conference 2016, but I didn‘t pay enough attention to it to follow up that contact.

@Apple502: Are my assumptions above right? If yes: Could you help to spread information about that to the international Scratch Community? Could you start with a traslation of that article to the english scratch wiki?

@All: Are there weekle TV-shows about Scratch in other parts of the world?

 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:05, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I can't say the same about Hong Kong or China - we were taught Scratch in IT class two years ago (hint: I aced the class) and with a few exceptions everyone despised it. I'm not sure whether that's a consequence of the teaching style, the language itself, or their own coincidental preference, but nobody was keen to continue Scratching after the class was over.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  10:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

I love this show :O (I don't understand a word tho). Martin, our contact Mr. Yogeshwar has a lot to do with TV. Can't we propose this idea to him? -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 08:32, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Not for Us in the east coast of the U.S. either. We had a coding club before, that used scratch, but some people did not like it cause' it look too "basic"  :( I do know Russia had a Scratch magazine. https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Scratch_Storec (at the bottom.) I don't know if it is still published.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:05, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

This show seems so cool! I hope that the US gets some sort of equivalent to this show sometime.
Nickeljorn (talk | contribs) 21:08, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

User:Apple502j/Why!? Programming translated
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 02:31, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Apple502j: Great. Thanks! Would you like to move your article in regular wiki-space? Is there an easy oportunity to watch all episodes of Why!? Programmingin the web? I couldn'tto find it at YouTube, where i hoped to have it with english subscripts.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  07:34, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

At the official website, here. (but no English subtitles, sorry! )
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:33, 24 March 2018 (UTC)

New series will be held tomorrow! (If the high school baseball is called off
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:48, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Link to forum topic on account request

On the account request page there should be a link to this forum post made by Kenny2scratch

asqwde talk | contribs 16:56, 14 March 2018 (UTC)

Should there be a link? I'm not sure about that. I feel like most of the people who actually click the link will be people frustrated over "why was my request rejected?!?!?!!11//1/1??/1one?/slash!" - and we definitely don't want that topic to become a forum topic for rejection complaints.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:29, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Updating Skin Language + Design independently + Process-Docu

I think to multiply and mantain the new Wiki Skin - that I like very much (thanks kenny2scratch!!! :-) - in all international Wikis, it would be very good to completely separate language and design, so both could be updated separately, since both are changing independently. If new design introduces new language snippets, english should be the “fall back” until translation is done. So the design could be updated at all scratch wikis at once. There should also be a documented process how to translate and transfer updates of design and translation to a certain wiki. And there should be a complete explanation at tw:International-Scratch-Wiki-FAQ.
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:47, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

I don't really know the best way to handle translations quickly. The Vector skin actually handles translations the same way as the SWS. There's no elegant solution that comes to mind.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:31, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

If it's not possible to define the Skin in a separate design + language file naturally, it could be a solution, to build a "translated skin creator" where you put in a "translation friendly skin file set" and a "translation file" and get back a "translated skin file set" of that language that you than can upload. It would be ingenious if people could use this "skin complier" via web-interface by downloading a "file to translate" and upload the "translated file" of their language. (...yes...it's sounding more and more like wikipedia:Pootle or wikipedia:Transifex for translating the mainsite, see: How_to_Translate_Scratch)
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:26, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

The Scratch website still needs to regularly pull translations from Transifex, it's actually no better than us right now. I think webhooks would be the best thing to use, but it would require Arne to update linux permissions - I'll contact him when I need it.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)

Update: I have set up a GitHub webhook for the English wiki, and it turns out I don't need to set up file permissions with Arne after all - it works fine on its own.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Great! We have the new skin - thankls to Ken - now also at de: (german translation) and ja: (but japanese translation seems yet to come) and tw: (logo ist still missing). Scratch Wiki:ScratchWikiSkin Bugs is outdated now. Beside:

• https://github.com/InternationalScratchWiki/ScratchWikiSkin2

Do we already have a "first adress to learn about the new skin" here or at some other wiki?
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:27, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

User Page Glitch

 Done

Has anybody else noticed on their user page that if they press the spacebar, it deletes something?
NYCDOT (talk | contribs)I AM THE ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 21:14, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Can you tell us the userpage, your OS and browser? (When I do at Win7 64bit HomePremium Firefox 59.0.1, the page scrolled.)
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 23:52, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

glitch

Sometimes when i click the pencil thing it doesn't work so i have to reload the page for it to work.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 17:46, 18 March 2018 (UTC)

This only seems to happen to me if the page isn't fully loaded yet (i.e. when the loading bar/circle/whatever disappears). If I wait for the page to load fully and nothing times out, then it works fine (currently using Firefox 58.0.2 on Windows 10).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:47, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Seems to glitch even if the page fully loaded for me
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 00:58, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

@Jacob B-b-but you use Ubuntu.

banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,483))

07:41, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Unbuntu? Is it Ubuntu?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 08:05, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

I also have this problem occasionally. I don't really know what causes it - I suspect it has something to do with ResourceLoader and the way it loads scripts. If you could find a reproducible case, that would be great!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  12:24, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

Occasionally i also have this problem

asqwde talk | contribs 12:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Now it's not working at all
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 00:23, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Try doing a hard refresh - does that help?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:45, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Nope
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 01:16, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

It's okay if I use the vector skin, but I don't really like it...
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 03:06, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Clear your cache?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  05:56, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

As of the most recent commit to the SWS2, this should be fixed now - could you please check if it's working for you?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:55, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Block Levels

Here is a suggestion. To have block levels. When a user does something wrong their block level goes up. If their block level reaches 4 or higher then they get blocked on the wiki. When you do something wrong depending on wat you did (list down below) you get your block level higher. All block levels reset after 6 months.

Change block level by 1:

• Editing another userpace (no warning given before)
  

Change block level by 2:

• Editing another userpace (a warning was given before)
• Vandalising other users' files
• Turning off a bot without permission (no warning given before)
  

Change block level by 3:

• Creating spam pages
• Vandalising pages
  

Thoughts? Any other stuff to add?

asqwde talk | contribs 16:53, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Hmm.. I think that this is a good idea but I think we need to give 5 chances and the block level will reset whenever a scratch wiki bureaucrat decides to unblock them.
NYCDOT (talk | contribs)NYCDOT 17:55, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

We basically kinda do that already. When we spot someone editing someone else's userspace, we usually just warn them on their talk page, since that doesn't warrant an immediate block. If they turn off WM without good reason (fyi WM is the only bot that can be turned off via a page), then that's considered vandalism - if it happens again within a short enough amount of time, it's a block. Editing userspace for the second time will likely get a more firm warning.

I don't think we need to organize blocks into levels. We already unconsciously have our own systems (though it's slightly different for each of us), and having this would likely confuse us.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  23:13, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree with Ken. Blocking is a process which should not be publicised, and so it would be best if whatever happened to get them blocked stays between the blocking Bureaucrat and the blocked user (hence why Special:Log/block is hidden). Blocking is also flexible policy and varies by user, and each case is different. It all depends on severity and impact.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

@Ken Don't tell them about the shadow government...
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:49, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

Bug

There is a semicolon on the footer...
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:13, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

April fools!

asqwde talk | contribs 08:32, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done To be honest, I asked Ken to add the semicolon.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 02:09, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Instruct users on the Community Portal to make titles descriptive

I have a suggestion for the Help Box at the top of the CP. Let's add a bullet point which encourages members of the Wiki to make their titles descriptive when asking a question on this page. For example, instead of "I have a question", one could write "How many users are on the Wiki?"; or, instead of "How can I...?", one could write "How do I change the colour of the new nav bar?

This is good not only for accessibility; but also it allows users to quickly decide whether a new section interests them from pages such as the "Recent Changes" list.

This is the same sort of style that is encouraged for new Wiki pages; so why not do the same for sections of the CP, and perhaps other pages designed for communication (such as talk pages).

What are the community's thoughts, should we add a bullet point at the top of this page?
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 14:38, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I do think that is a very splendid idea!
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 15:55, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback, it'd be lovely to hear why that is though—that is, a well-reasoned argument behind your opinion.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 16:20, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

I agree with this!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Well, the reason is because if you do have it the way you want it, you would be able to see if it was answered already a lot quicker. (and easier). Also, it gets straight to the point what your question or statement is. Lastly, there is no way that someone could just spam a bunch of topics because you are going to need to put a detailed title.
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 22:52, 31 March 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm more likely to not care about a post if I can't get a hint on what their post is about via the title. I skim the CP often so have no time to read every post.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:05, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Ahh whoops NYCDOT, I misread your message and thought it was disagreeing rather than agreeing. I suppose we don't need justifications for positive feedback given we're just trying to achieve consensus; whereas justification for negative feedback is much appreciated given it'll help improve the idea.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 00:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

oh. Alrighty.
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 15:30, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

I'll add something in the help box about making titles descriptive.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks!
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 21:29, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

April Fools Day front page

I use the vector skin, and the April Fools Day front page messes it up.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 03:23, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

God, it's broken on SWS too. I think it might be a problem with how the transclusion is done :/
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

It also messes up the community portal.
Ziggy741 (talk | contribs) 03:47, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

April fools day image help.

I have made a screenshot for a april fools day page Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Scratch Discussion Forums. What category should I put it in?
Hellounicorns2 (talk | contribs) 05:52, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Category:April Fools' Day Images
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:11, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:55, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

I was banned for 2 hours just for adding joke Delete templates

An admin banned me for 2 hours because I was adding Template:Delete templates on random articles for April Fool purposes. The reasons were "spamming" and "way too far". How do I deal with this?
♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 15:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Just don't do it again, and keep editing—we love your contributions. I'm not really sure what your question is?
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 15:40, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Firstly, the admin should of left a message on your talk page before blocking. I think the reason was because you added the actual delete template to the AF pages. Other than that, as jokebookservice1 said, we enjoy your contributions and keep on editing!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

In addition, you made an edit, then an admin reverted your edit, then you reverted their reverted version. Generally, this looks like the start of an edit war and further discussion should instead be done on the talk page of the article in question.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 16:13, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

I was adding Delete templates on mainspace pages with stupid reasons.

♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 17:00, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sure you were-- it's just you shouldn't've been. While it is important to celebrate April Fool's, it's also important that the Wiki can function smoothly to provide its readers free and easy access to information about Scratch. The deletion template may cause some people to actually review the pages, and it wastes their time while trying to find actual pages that need to be deleted. The template is the same whether it's an April Fools' joke or the real thing. When your edits were reverted, you should've stopped, not reverted back to your version. Thanks, again, for all your other wonderful contributions to the wiki, though.
Jokebookservice1 (talk | contribs) 17:10, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Here's why I blocked you - please take in all of the context involved and think about what you're doing before doing it.

You were adding the full-fledged {{delete}} template to multiple pages. Not the AF version, but the real version! This template actually signals that the page should be deleted, and I came very close to deleting the page for real before I saw your edit summary. When I undid the edit, I partially explained that adding delete templates for AF is going too far. However, you disregarded that and reverted my edit, and proceeded to add it to another six or so pages.

At the time, it was nighttime for me and I needed to get some sleep. In any other case, I would have posted on your talk page (and indeed, when blocking, I selected the option to allow you to post on your own talk page) and taken further steps if you disregarded that. However, I had very little online time left to spare, and I was afraid you would keep adding the templates while I was asleep, increasing the amount of cleanup that would have to be done afterwards, so I chose the option that would immediately stop you from adding the templates - a temporary block - and rollbacked all the edits.

Now, in the morning, I see you going everywhere and publicizing a block, which we never do, saying you're furious because you were blocked for "no reason". But think about it - when you were adding the delete templates, did you think about the amount of cleanup you would have to do afterwards? Especially since you can't rollback, the more pages you added the template to, the more pages you would have to undo your edits on afterwards. And what if some unsuspecting admin comes online to see that a whole bunch of pages need to be deleted? If you were planning on relying on the EWs/admins to rollback your edits after you were done, that's like asking someone to clean up your mess for you. Granted, you might do that all the time IRL, but this isn't a place where actions have no consequences.

I'm not saying that all of your other edits are garbage and should be reverted. I frequently laugh at the edits you make to AF pages in your spare time, and I appreciate the edits you make to content pages when you do. If all of what I just said makes you feel like you're not "good enough" to stay, then I apologize - please remember that you did get your account request accepted, so you are good enough to be here, and indeed, to stay. I hope you can continue to make constructive edits (or destructive edits to AF pages, I guess, but that's besides the point) and help the Wiki out, and I hope that this will be no more than a minor mistake in your memory. Thank you for your contributions, and Wiki on.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  06:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Editing April Fools' Pages

 Done
Sorry, but I need help. I want to edit an April Fools' page. But when I click "Edit", it provides to edit the original page. Can you help me? Thanks.
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 23:34, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Access via Scratch Wiki:April Fools/ARTICLE NAME HERE
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 23:44, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you!
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 00:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Deleting A Page

 Done
Hi! Could someone delete Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Dilek10? Because I don't need it anymore. Thanks!
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 00:16, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh wait! Sorry, don't delete it. Sorry again.
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 00:22, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Protected page edit

Hello. Could anyone with a rank of EW or higher edit the April Fools page and replace it with the content here? I fixed 2 broken image links for 2018

asqwde talk | contribs 13:00, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:12, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks

asqwde talk | contribs 13:32, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

New redirect page for each trend

Should we have a new redirect page for each Scratch Trend?

asqwde talk | contribs 13:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

No.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  14:12, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Why?

asqwde talk | contribs 14:14, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I kinda like the idea, but it seems like a lot of work.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:07, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

I agree with KrIsMa.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 19:51, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Although redirects aren't quite the same thing as whole pages, it's not worth the amount of effort involved. If people search for a certain trend, at least one of the results will be the Scratch Trends page. There's no need to have redirects to all the trends (especially considering how many there are).
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:50, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Automation! Honestly, if anyone is up to do this it, it would be greatly appreciated!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:57, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

I also feel like this would partially violate S:NOSP though - even though they aren't complete pages, those redirects are taking up entire titles for user-generated content. I still don't like the idea.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:52, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

If this gets approved I wouldn't mind creating the redirects.

asqwde talk | contribs 11:41, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Anyone else?
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

If no-ne else puts themselves up I could do it myself. I've got the time believe me.

asqwde talk | contribs 13:54, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

So? Should i do it or not?
-unsigned comment by Asqwde (talk | contribs)

tsk tsk, forgot to sign :P

Go ahead if you have the time.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:21, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok sorry for not signing and i will do it soon.

asqwde talk | contribs 19:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

 Being done by asqwde
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:04, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done

asqwde talk | contribs 08:26, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday Article is not updated AGAIN

Scratch Wiki Home/Featured Article says.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 02:23, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:31, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Suggestion: Get the CodeMirror extension

The CodeMirror extension is an extension that highlights code in the wikitext editor, making it easier to see what is markup and what isn't.

Since a picture paints a thousand words, please take a look at this screenshot to see what it's like.

I strongly recommend getting it on all wikis, since it is such a useful tool, even if all it does is highlight wikitext. But if there are downsides, then...

Thoughts?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  08:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Generally I like Syntax Highliging very much. If this is the best Extension for that + stable + used in respectable other Mediawikis, I say yes. Is it right that it is still in Beta-status?
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:02, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Although it's only in beta, it is used on all Wikimedia projects (all language wikis have it, and I think metawiki and mediawikiwiki do too), so I highly recommend it.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

+1
 MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:16, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea; I suppose it might be a good tool for identifying different tags and code in the editor of the wiki. So, +1.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:20, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

Also, would there be a way to turn it off (like an option on the settings page)?
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:25, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

I mean, I'm sure it would help new users and the like, but it kinda hurts my eyes and would get annoying after a while.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 21:29, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @Bigpuppy: Yes, it's a user preference option whether it's on.

@Drunken_Sailor: You can turn it off if it gets annoying.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:24, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

This would be great to have!
04:49, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

+1 this would be amazing! I find it hard to edit wiki pages just because the giant wall of text I'm subjected to. Highlighting would help break that up for sure.
TheUltimatum (talk | contribs) 01:07, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Great, since everyone is so happy with it, I'll add it now. The next question is: would you like this to be on or off by default? It remains a user preference whether you want it on, but do you think the default for new users (or users without a preference set) should be on or off?
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:00, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

I'd say on for New Wikians starting in a week so users can turn it off if they don't like it before it turns on automatically.
-unsigned comment by Bla-Games (talk | contribs)

So on for you, then. I also say on.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:01, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

On. Not many new users will actually realise what it is or even be able to find the button to turn it on, so have it on by default.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:39, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Alright, CodeMirror is on by default now. To disable it, click this button:

 Enjoy!
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  00:16, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

Noice!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:56, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

nice i really like it.

asqwde talk | contribs 19:14, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

A question about external links

Are links that link to the archive of the scratch forums classifed as external links?

asqwde talk | contribs 12:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

No.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:42, 4 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done

asqwde talk | contribs 14:51, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Creating a Multiplayer Game Misleading Note?

The Creating a Multiplayer Game page has a note on top that's a bit misleading.

Note:

This no longer works, due to the 128-character limit that was imposed on Cloud Variables in March 2018.

I believe this is untrue, due to the fact that none of the variables in the tutorial should ever exceed 128 characters. I was wondering if it would be OK to remove this? And if there are any other articles that have this note?
TheUltimatum (talk | contribs) 01:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, go ahead and remove it. Also, in the future, if you want to bring up something about a specific article, please use its talk page (pencil menu -> discussion) so that the discussion stays with the article.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:54, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:53, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

JICYDK, the old domain is now directly redirected to the new one!

So y'all saw the server transfer, and you might have noticed that the old domain was still there and remained frozen for a long while... but Just In Case You Didn't Know, it's now being directly redirected to the new domain! We can now all relax about updating links to the old domain (though we should still update them if possible). There is a little problem with the way the current redirection works (see the topic about "bug with [wiki] in forums") but otherwise it's fully redirecting.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  04:28, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Awesome!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:51, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Great!

asqwde talk | contribs 13:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

How do you open your sandbox after saving it?

I'm not able to open my sandbox after saving it. Please tell me how to.

rengistan (talk | contribs)

Hiya, looks like you forgot to (fully) sign your post! Use four tildas (~~~~) to sign, rather than just <scratchsig>.

Your sandbox is here - I'm not sure what the problem is. Are you unable to view it or are you just having trouble finding it? If it's the latter, then that link should help :)
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  09:03, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Error with Joining Wikis in other languages

It won't allow me to use my current account, using a different account is not allowed, and using a fake username will disallow the comment for verification. Does anybody know a solution? As a note, the language in question doesn't have any wiki guidelines.
Bla-Games (talk | contribs) 21:43, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

The reasoning for this is you only joined the English Wiki. You are going to need to make another application for each language wiki you want to join, as far as I am concerned.
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 23:10, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Yep, getting an account on the English wiki does not give you an account on all wikis. Indeed, you won't get any special treatment for having an account here. You'll need to go through the other wikis' request processes to join them.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:00, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I figured that out, but it won't allow me to create a new wiki account using the same Scratch account. I've tried to submit for a new account already. It gives me an error with sending the email.
Bla-Games (talk | contribs) 12:32, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Which wiki is this? If it's anything other than the German and English wikis, the only things you provide are your username, email address, and request notes (e.g. see ja:Special:RequestAccount). There's no automatic account verification. Handling of the request will likely be done through email.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:46, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

And Edible Wiki you have the code. More later.

banana439monkey (Talk | Contribs | Scratch | Edits (3,483))

20:02, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

(FYI: Japanese Wiki doesn't require notes, but the condition is stricter than this wiki.)
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:49, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘(minor bug fix at the section heading )
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:51, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:52, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks to Kenny2scratch and all others

Thanks to all who help answer questions in the wiki froum topic. I really appreciate it. From the time i suggested it i thought it was going to be small and rejected but thanks to all!

asqwde talk | contribs 13:53, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

What???
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 20:59, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

I suggested for this forum topic to be made where people could ask questionns about the wiki so i'm saying thanks to all who helped out.

asqwde talk | contribs 16:43, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:51, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Protected page edit

Hello. Could anyone with a rank of EW or higher edit the April Fools page and replace it with the content here? I added a image for 2018

asqwde talk | contribs 11:15, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done with some modifications - don't link directly to studios except for references, so I just mentioned the studio name instead
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  12:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok. could you change the unage with the studio for 2017 thrn it is the same one.

asqwde talk | contribs 19:16, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Colors On Editing Page

Hey, did anyone else notice that if you click "edit" on any talk page, like this, it shows a bunch of colors for topics, signatures, etc.?
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 22:15, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Did you see the topic about getting the CodeMirror extension? That's what it does: it highlights wikitext.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  03:04, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 11:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

 Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:51, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Policy on deleting user talk page messages

I have seen several people notify other people telling them that deleting threads off their talk page without archiving them is not allowed. In order to keep this from continuing, I would like to explain what the deal is with that.

Under the userspace policy, you are, in fact, allowed to delete threads from your talk page. The rule is as follows:

“	You are only allowed to remove entire threads if the issue has been resolved. Other users may put the thread back if they have more to say.	”
– Userspace policy (linked above)

As long as the user removes the entire thread (i.e. doesn't just remove one message) and the issue is considered resolved, then they are allowed to do so. While this policy means that we may have to dig through page history to find if a user is repeatedly making the same mistakes, it also means that if a user makes some mistakes when they join but then learn from them, they will not have to deal with the potential embarassment of having other users see them. While everyone here is expected to be respectful to other users, it can still be a source of embarassment to users to see evidence of mistakes they made before.

So, in short, provided that the issue is resolved and the user deletes the entire thread, please do not notify users for deleting threads from their talk page.

Thank you for reading, and Wiki on! (Is "Wiki On!" a common phrase? It should be if it's not.)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:59, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

"Wiki on!" is common in election speeches AFAIK, otherwise not used much
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  02:44, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

125KB again...

It's time to make 97^th archive or increase the condition.

Warning:

Don't forget to write credits since it's under CC BY-SA 4.0

Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:50, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Giving credit when archiving is not needed as the content is moved, not copied.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:09, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Image bug

Hello there! Since I changed my avatar, I re-uploaded the file to replace the old one. But when I go to my page here on the wiki, it shows sometimes my old profile pic. Can someone help me? Thanks!
Botcho (Botcho_Otkho) - Talk - Contribs - Profile 12:41, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Did you do a hard refresh? When uploading a new version of a file, remember to do a hard refresh so your browser shows you the newest version.

To do a hard refresh:

On Windows, do Ctrl+F5 or Ctrl+Shift+R

On Mac, do Cmd+Shift+R

Once you've  Done that, your cache should be cleared and you should see the newest version.
kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory  13:08, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

Oh, now I can see the new version. Thanks! (do I have to remove this now?)
Botcho (Botcho_Otkho) - Talk - Contribs - Profile 13:13, 14 April 2018 (UTC)