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Unfinished discussions

CP Summaries

I started this little thing in my userspace which takes the most important things from each archive and links them into one page for future reference. Obviously, I cant do almost 90 pages, so I need your guys' help. You dont need to sign up for anything, just start editing the page.

When starting a new section, please start with the higher numbers, that way we get the modern stuff in first.

This will take a bit of time, but I hope I get people still interested later on, because as each new archive comes, links will have to be changed, etc.

If you want to claim something is important than you can discuss that here.

If you want to claim an archive to do, do so here.

Again, I am looking for dedicated Scratchers to help me complete this, so please, if you are interested, sign up.

I look forward to seeing how this page turns out!
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:07, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I believe that we aren't allowed to edit that even with your permission due to userspace rules. Maybe we should have a subpage of the Community Portal dedicated to it.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:48, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
In general, although there are no technical restrictions to prevent this, editing pages that belong to another user is not allowed. There are only a few exceptions, which include:
  • Removing content that obviously violates Community Guidelines
  • Editing pages where the owner has given you permission to edit

Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

I see. I was just unsure.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:59, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
"because as each new archive comes, links will have to be changed" I don't really think so, if the newest sections are at the bottom (assuming one section as a summary of each archive) then just do "Add Topic" when a new archive is made.
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02:42, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Is anyone interested? No This while take a while to do
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 23:02, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

New Types of How-To Articles

EH7meow and I have been discussing adding new types of community-oriented articles onto the wiki. Here is how he described it "I agree it's not a conventional Wiki article, but it's not too dissimilar to the already existing tutorials which, while being about blocks and programming, are still a person's view on how to do something. What I'd love is if there was the main-space for articles, and a tutorial-space for tutorials/guides etc. :)". I am posting this b/c he himself is currently in the process of regaining his wiki account. Anyhow, I believe that we should try and add some new articles to cover all the aspects of the scratch experience. This would include but not be limited to planning projects before the programming process, publishing projects, and increasing community-oriented guides. While these would probably be more opinionated, they would also be valuable sources of information for Scratchers. With that, I'll open up the floor for discussion. ;)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:26, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

I think that'd be interesting if they were part of a Tutorial namespace. Because like you said, things like How to Make a Basic Platformer is just one perspective on it, and why does that, for instance, deserve a tutorial over some other things? Interesting idea indeed. Only thing is, the Wiki is more supposed to be for documenting Scratch. But that also draws into question if our current tutorial articles are really a documentation, because it's more of a how-to, which leads me in circles, so good point.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 20:40, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Right. But some of those I believe are current Forum Stickys, and I thought that we are not allowed to bring those on the wiki.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 20:53, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
We would not be bringing stickies on the wiki, verbatum, but instead draw inspiration from the topics which they present. Seeing how they are temporary anyway, it would be useful to create wiki articles addressing those topics.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:49, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah. I see your point. Though I just feel like "Coming up with your Idea" isnt exactly a how-to - I think that would deserve a different name - I like the idea!
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 22:34, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
(Sorry, Customhacker, I fixed your indent a little bit up there.) I feel as though it's a good idea to bring some guides onto the wiki that aren't actual step-by-step, but it's more of a "suggestion" sort of thing. I'm just wondering where we'd put it.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 22:47, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── So if I've gotten this right, you're suggesting we add a Tutorial namespace to the Wiki and move all the current tutorial and how-to articles into it? Then we could also make articles based off of forum guides and put those in this namespace too? If that's what you're suggesting, then wonderful! I fully support this and I do think it would be really handy.

My only issue with this is that for every tutorial article, we would have to have a mainspace redirect to the tutorialspace. If you search for "How to Make a Platform Game" but there's an article on that with the title "Tutorial:How to Make a Platform Game" then the former would have to be a redirect to the latter. So we would essentially be making two pages for every tutorial page: a mainspace redirect and the tutorialspace article. Thoughts?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:15, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

That same thought struck me (2 pages per tutorial) but I was just too lazy to type it at the time so thanks for doing my mind work for me!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 06:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
No problem ;)
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09:09, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
So far, it seems that we're all in agreement that these articles would be a benefit to the Wiki, at least as much as the existing tutorials are.
The big challenge seems to be how we implement the articles so that they are easy to access. As you've mentioned, putting them in a space of their own means that they can't be searched unless you use redirects, which defeats the point of putting them in their own space.
That being said, the challenge with all tutorial articles is that their titles are very hard to search as you can never be sure what the title will be. I wonder if a good solution would be to have a landing page that will guide you to the correct article (as is already done on Frequently Asked Questions).
I'm thinking that perhaps the different 'spaces' would actually be a lot of work for not necessarily much gain. I'd support the addition of these new articles to the Wiki, so long as they are distinguished from others with the 'How To Pages' category, making it clear that they are not standard wiki content and can thus be more POV. With the increasing number of tutorials we would then have, I believe a landing page would also be useful.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 17:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
That should be the purpose of the Tutorial's section on the home page, though. To lead to basically all of our tutorials so they don't have to guess our exact wording in the Search bar.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 19:15, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Oops, I forgot we had that page. :P In that case, my position is that I think these articles should become tutorials like the other scripting-based ones, and a new section should be given to them on the tutorials section.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 19:23, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I also support this change. This seems like the most logical solution :).
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:15, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

I had a look through the existing forum stickies and found some stickies which I thought could be turned into articles. I'm not sure what the right balance would be, some stickies could definitely be used as inspiration for how-to articles, whereas some are rather specific to a certain forum. We could add a section to the articles on each forum with a little mini-guide on how to best use that forum, i.e. ★★HOW TO GET A GOOD EXACT ANSWER ON A QUESTION ★★.
Having had a look through the others, I compiled a list of ideas I thought were decent and corresponding stickies that could inspire the article. Although some I feel may still be a little too specific/borderline to be how-to articles. I'm also not sure on the names of the articles, that too might require a little thought.
This idea definitely feels unconventional, but I like the idea of some tutorials based around the site too. What are your thoughts on the list and other tutorials we could write? :)
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 20:19, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
I like some of those, don't care for the one on registering your site since it's too forum-specific. I think the ones that are less forum-specific could be made into How-to articles.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 21:12, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Voting opens TONIGHT

Voting in the EW election will open tonight at midnight UTC (8PM Scratch Time). All Wiki users are encouraged to vote in the election. Speeches and a link to vote are available on the election page.

Good luck to all candidates!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:04, 18 June 2017 (UTC)

Great! I already know who I'm voting for. :)
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 19:32, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Good Luck everyone! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:15, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Good luck to everyone! By the way, this is my first time voting with jvvg's system and it is sweeeeeet :D
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23:28, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
Voting is now open! Please vote, it takes only a moment. :)
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Also, voting closes on June 26 at midnight UTC (June 25 at 8PM Scratch Time).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Darn, I just realized I'm unable to vote due to my account being created too recently. :(
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 01:38, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── There appears to be an issue with the page where it's not displaying properly for those on Firefox. If that happens to you, please use Chrome. I'm going to try to fix this tomorrow, but in the meantime it does work on other browsers.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:25, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Now that I've voted, I really like the system! I noticed that it automatically placed me last and disabled options that would do otherwise - very good! Is a reset link really necessary though? Still, that system looks sweeeeeet!
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02:35, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
On a fun side note, there have been 46 votes! This is already a lot higher turn out then the previous election.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:34, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh Yeah! Good Luck to all!
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:39, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
The reason I put in the reset button was mainly for testing. To see how it handled multiple votes, I voted both as jvvg and WM (only when testing, in the real election I only voted as jvvg). With the reset button I didn't have to manually delete the cookies.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg Ah, I see. @ErnieParke Wow! (I really can't wait for the results :D) How do you know?
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02:49, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Just voted!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:58, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Well I voted yesterday but still :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:59, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
I've voted as well. The results should be quite interesting :D
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:17, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg What is the minimum amount of time since account creation needed to be able to vote? I'm afraid I'm unable to.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 02:15, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Your account has to have been created before nominations opened, which was on June 6th, I think.
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03:08, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, that's too bad WolfCat67! :( Well, you'll probably be able to vote, or even run in the next election, but I can't say when that will be, and probably won't be that soon. I wish you could vote!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:48, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
@ErnieParke Wow, that seems like a lot! I can't wait to see how many people have voted once the election is over! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:50, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Just a quick update: we are now up to 57 votes!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:38, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

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23:27, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg Whoa, that's a whole lot of votes!
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:29, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
@jvvg Wow xD Like I said, I can't wait to see how many votes there are when we're done with the election! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:29, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
61 votes as of now. Based on the rate currently I say we will get maybe 68 votes by the end.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 16:21, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
That's a lot lol :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)


-Galaxydust- will become FPC later today.
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05:46, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Really? Nice! That reminds me, I really need to start work on that FPC application... LOL‎
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 14:38, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Now -Galaxydust- is the FPC.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:57, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, and still no news update. EWs? Admins?
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23:21, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Uncategorised files?

What happened to all the Uncategorised Files? Yesterday I checked and there were quite a few. Today, I went to try to categories some and found an empty page. What happened?

Also, I see that the CP has been archived.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:53, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

All of the files were images/icons for peoples' user pages, so I just categorised them all in Category:Users' Images. :)
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 20:57, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh I see that now looking at recent changes. :P
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 20:59, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
I thought that discussion was done. If you want it can be brought back.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 21:37, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
No. The other one was about Unused files, but this is about the uncategorised files.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:23, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
What was the title of that conversation?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 16:32, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Just Unused Files. Why?
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 00:23, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Do you want it brought back?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 00:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
No. This has nothing to do with the other topic.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, does EH7meow's answer make this done?
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 01:54, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Yeah, if they're user images categorizing them as so is most logical.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 02:00, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

About Block Plugin

This article is outdated. There is a new version of the plugin, scratchblocks3, but this covers scratchblocks2. We need to update it, and we need to do so quickly. Back before I became a Wiki editor, I referred to that article to try to make my own cool block ideas in the scratchblocks testing topic. Specifically, C blocks. However, cstart, celse, and cend don't exist anymore; they've been replaced by {} syntax. Take a look:

when <this happens> :: cstart
  do this
otherwise when <this happens> :: celse
  do this
then we're done :: cend


when <this happens> :: cstart
  do this
otherwise when <this happens> :: celse
  do this
then we're done :: cend

but this:

when <this happens> {
  do this
} otherwise when <this happens> {
  do this
} then we're done


when <this happens> {
  do this
} otherwise when <this happens> {
  do this
} then we're done

This article needs to be updated, but there was one question I asked on its talk page, that actually relates to Turkey3's topic above: Should the current version of the article be moved somewhere else, with this article getting the new content? Or should the new content go in a new article, and have the current one link to it?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:33, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

So is scratchblocks3 meant for Scratch 3.0?
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 03:38, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
No, scratchblocks3 is the version of the plugin currently in use. However, that article documents scratchblocks2.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
That explains why I couldnt make c-blocks XD. Yeah, someone needs to update that.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:02, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I think we should update the page, but add a section for scratchblocks2 due to their similarity.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 22:41, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
So like a section called "Old Syntax" or something? It would have {{outdated}} on it, of course.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:31, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, but I think we should wait for more people to give their opinion.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 20:46, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Adding a History section seems best to me.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 20:48, 22 June 2017 (UTC)


How do I create my own template?
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 14:50, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

You mean a template in your userspace? Just make a page under your name like I have done at User:Bigpuppy/Welcome_Template, then you can make it show what's there by using {{User:Your Username/The Name of your Page}}. For example, I can make this happen:
Bigpuppy Banner.png

Hi there! Welcome to the Scratch wiki, Community_Portal! My name is bigpuppy. If you have any questions or would just like to chat, feel free to leave a comment on my talk page. Have fun editing, and I hope to see you soon!

by doing {{User:Bigpuppy/Welcome_Template}} . Hope I helped!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:11, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, thank you! Another thing, how do I actually make the code for it? I'm not good with HTML. :P
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:22, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, you could go to my welcome template's page, click edit, then look at the code, (but make sure not to save! :P), then make one of your own based on mine. Some others you could look at are Customhacker's welcome template, Kenny2scratch's welcome template, and the official Scratch Wiki welcome template. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:37, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, and then if you want to be slightly more advanced, you can use the Magic Words to make it more personalized. My code is actually based of the Welcome template. Kenny2scratch's is cool too - I have not seen the code for it. If you need help, you can ask anyone of us.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:49, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes, you can use {{ROOTPAGENAME}} to display the name of the user that you are posting your template on. An example is my welcome template up there. As you can see, it found the name "Community Portal" automatically. It's actually really cool. I love templates. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:54, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I see. Thank you!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:39, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I believe this is Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:42, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────but you can correct me if I'm wrong. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:43, 21 June 2017 (UTC)

No, you are correct.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 18:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm a bit late to this discussion, but... @customhacker: thanks! You can, of course, feel free to take a look at the code. @bigpuppy and @Drunken_Sailor: I actually used {{ROOTPAGENAMEE}}. That makes sure that underscores remain underscores in the username, instead of being spaces like MediaWiki makes them.
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04:25, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
Oh, really? That's cool. I'll change mine to {{ROOTPAGENAMEE}} then. Thanks!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:39, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
No problem. I only realized it should have been ROOTPAGENAMEE when I used my template on Drunken_Sailor's talk :P
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23:26, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Template Question

Is there a certain template that shows a topic or a topic section needs fixing? I can't seem to find that for an article I edited. Thanks,
DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 21:55, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Maybe {{expand}} is what you are looking for.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 21:57, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
No... It's the one that says that the article needs revising since some of the information may be inaccurate or the wording needs to be fixed. I was going to use the citations template, but it didn't fully fit the description.
DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 22:42, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
So not {{inaccurate}}?
Only other thing I could think of is {{Wiki Standards}}.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 00:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
If you would like to take a look at it- Saving Data. I corrected a section but I still have doubts if it should be marked or not.
DownsGameClub (talk | contribs) 01:01, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm too lazy to read through the whole article right now for accuracy :P
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 02:43, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

I didn't know the TBG forums still existed!

clicky! I didn't know this existed!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:21, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Well, they do. :P
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 03:15, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Yep, they sure do! xD
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 13:35, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Wow, neither did I!
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 21:16, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Help with Improving Article

If you didn't know, I recently created the Menu (project) article on the wiki, after @Turkey3 made in a post up above that it was one of the articles that should be created. However, I marked it as a stub as it is missing images, a few examples, and references for anything (I mean, I didn't know what to put as a reference; there are no statistics for anything). If any of you could help improve it, that'd be great. Thanks! :)
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 03:18, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Good. Although I believe being in the stub category gets them good attention.
Duckboycool (talk | contribs) 03:36, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Hehe, I thought that'd work, but nobody seems to have checked it out yet. :P I'd assume people check here a little more often. This is the first place I've gotten a response, I did mark it as a stub and write on the talk page, but I got no response there.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 05:09, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
It's moreso a matter of how much people want to edit some articles.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 05:22, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
Mmh... I don't really like checking the stubs category; I check its parent category more often. Most stubs (like all the Scratch Conferenz ones) are difficult to think of information to add.
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07:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
True. Well I'll try to fix it up a bit then.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 12:16, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
I would add some references :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 08:51, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────I'll try my best to help you improve it :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 12:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

I'll do my best to help you help him improve it!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 13:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I'll see how I can help you help him help him improve it!
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14:18, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Reminder: Voting ends tomorrow

A heads-up to you all: Voting will end tomorrow. This is your last chance to vote in the ongoing election. Please head over to Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2017 and click the big link at the bottom of the page. Thanks.
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14:17, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Oh, cool!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:10, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Or more precisely, about 34 hours from now.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 16:11, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I already voted, but I can't wait to see the results! (Edit conflict with Duckboycool :P)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:13, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Can't wait to see the results. I hope that I can vote next election. :)
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Actually, as it turns out, it is closing today, or more precisely in 5 hours. This is the last chance to do it everybody.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 18:56, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
It ends at 8pm Eastern time.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 20:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Voting closes tonight

Voting will close tonight at midnight UTC, or 8PM Scratch Time. If anyone has not voted yet and wants to, please do so now. We will announce results shortly after voting closes. We have had amazing turnout this election, with 65 votes as of the time I post this!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:03, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

One more hour! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:06, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Just in case some people don't know, the place where you can vote is here. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:08, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Half an hour left now!
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23:30, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

A message to all editors

I recommend that whenever you are posting or replying in a talk page, you do not mark your edits as minor unless the objective of the message was actually minor (like marking a conversation as {{done}}). Besides that, the only time you really need to mark it as minor is when you're editing your own message. Thanks.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:29, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Additionally, if you're like me and like to see all edits anyway, you can enable minor edits by default in your preferences (I also have it so it shows me the last 100 recent change instead of 20).
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 23:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
I was saying don't mark talk page edits as minor...
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00:19, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I know. I was just bringing up something unrelated about the recent changes.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 00:20, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
You can also mark them as minor when actually editing the format of your own talk page to prevent WikiMonitor from leaving you a message for it. But as Kenny2scratch said, there isn't much point otherwise, especially with the fact that it removed WikiMonitor from giving the alert.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 04:08, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Especially because WikiMonitor doesn't check minor talk page edits...
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04:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

The Election Results

The results of the election can be found at Scratch Wiki:Elections/June 2017/Results. The winners of this year's EW election are makethebrainhappy and customhacker! Congratulations to the winners! The final scores (copied from the results page) are below:

  • makethebrainhappy: 197 points
  • customhacker: 169 points
  • kenny2scratch: 149 points
  • banana439monkey: 145 points

Great job to all the candidates, and congratulations to the victors!
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 00:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Noo! I actually lost by more than I thought I would :P Congratulations to makethebrainhappy and customhacker... I guess I have another year and a half to wait now.
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00:25, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Congrats @makethebrainhappy and @customhacker! And great job to everyone, regardless of if you won or not. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:21, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
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01:29, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I think I'll nominate myself in the next election. Also, great job to all the candidates. This was actually very close.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 01:53, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Thank you all for your amazing speeches!
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:52, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Congrats MTBH and customhacker, you'll both make great EWs I'm sure! At the very least I hope you'll be more active than I have been :P.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:43, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Congrats everyone! :D
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 17:04, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Congratulations to everyone who ran! That was a close race! :D
Jromagnoli (talk | contribs) 11:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday

Hello everyone, and welcome to another wiki wiki wiki Wednesday! For the uninitiated, this is an opportunity where we as a community come together to pick an interesting article to share on the Scratch website.

Please share suggestions below!

Articles are suggested to have:

  • An image or two
  • Follow wiki guidelines

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 04:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

I hate to recommend something I mostly worked on because it feels selfish but I'll recommend Character (computing) because I think it has a broad range of information that many people on the forums may find interesting. I was also thinking maybe Efficient Programming.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 06:01, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Maybe Kaj?
...What's with the "wiki wiki wiki"?
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12:37, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
How did I not know that Wiki Contributors recommenced these? Well, I guess I'll recommend Cloud Data, although it may have less use with fallback only currently going around. Also, Kenny2Scratch, I think it's just for some good dramatic effect. :P
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 13:29, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
How about Curator (front page)?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 14:29, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Scratch Project License? That one would be great, considering how many people are against remixing. This will let them learn what license Scratch uses and why anyone can remix.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 15:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
That, or the Broadcast article.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 15:47, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
I really like these suggestions, especially Character, Curator, and Projekt License. However I feel like Character might be a little long, and project license seems to lack some information (?), so I'll go with Curator for now :) Thanks everyone!
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 17:56, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@LiFaytheGoblin I always love suggesting for Wiki Wednesday! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 18:02, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

@LiFaytheGoblin Alright! Feels good suggesting. (We need to improve the Project License article, I just realized. :P
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Am I too late to suggest? :P If not, I would suggest Paint Editor.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 16:18, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
It is too late, sorry!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:26, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Custom Signatures

Note Warning: Your signature sub-page must have only your signature on it! Adding line breaks or even noinclude tags may mess up the format on talk pages!

First, create a sub-page to place your custom signature in. After that, create a custom signature which has a 18*18 pixel picture on the leftmost part of the signature, a link to your own userpage and talk page. Adding a link to your contributions is also needed. Custom signatures are strictly regulated and therefore, compulsory rules must be followed when making a custom signature:

  • The profile photo must be a square shape and must be 18*18 or 20*20
  • The signature cannot attract undesirable attention (ex. flashy text, some flashy profile GIFs [some exceptions apply, see #Picture] in which another user would tell the custom signature creator to change the signature)
    • This also means the signature may not contain any excessively bright colors
  • The signature may not contain any background colors, images, or borders
  • A link to the user's user page, talk page and contributions must be present
  • Links must be self-explanatory (ex. A link that says "talk" must link to a talk page, nothing else)
  • Nothing not Wiki related may be added (e.g. a link to your Scratch page is allowed, but not a link to your latest Scratch project, a quote, etc.)
  • Signatures must occupy one line only; there should not be any formatting that cuts to other lines, such as adding text shadow.
  • Signature cannot be very long. To test, do the eight colon test. Go to the sandbox and place your signature, with timestamp, after eight colons (:). If your custom signature breaks lines, it is too long.

Keep in mind that the timestamp should always be present. Editing the design of the timestamp is not relevant under custom signatures, and should not be done.

Those are the rules off S:CSIG and yet I see some not being followed such as the background and border + some extremely lengthy ones. What is our position on this?
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:24, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

If they pass they eight colon test, than they are fine. Also, with borders, in the case on something like Kenny2Scratche's signature, that is fine since it is only bordering the small links, and not the whole signature. (I believe) And, I've never seen one with background colors, but if somebody is breaking one of these you can let them know on their talk page. Although, we should wait for some more answers.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 17:41, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Personally all the custom signatures I see people using don't seem to be causing any problems, but that's just my view.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 17:51, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

How do I make a border around profile header?

Hello! I was wondering how I could make a light green, rounded-rectangle border around my profile header, the width of the text and the same height of the text, with the inside filled in an even lighter green? How would you do that? Here's my header for reference:

WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:16, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Something like this would work:
<div style='border:1px solid green;background-color:#a6efa5;border-radius:5px;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;padding:0.5em;margin:0.5em auto 0.5em auto;width:auto;'> {{User:WolfCat67/Header}} </div>
Only difficulty I had was making the width only the width of the stuff inside, I'd have to think about that one more or have someone else chip in.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 18:19, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Wow, thanks! That'll definitely help! :) I don't really need the width to match it, the one you made works perfectly.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:24, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Here, I've made some code here for you.

You can use or edit it. No need for credit.
Oh, it looks like Turkey3 beat me to it. Either way, I'll still post this for you to look at it.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 18:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for your help, @Duckboycool, but I've used @Turkey3's. Don't worry, yours looks great too; at least now I know how it works.
As you can see, my header now looks completed. :)
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:30, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
If you want it less wide set width to 75% like Duckyboycool did.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 18:33, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

New FPC!

The new Front Page Curator is Hope4Tomorrow.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 23:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Nice! Reminds me of the FPC application I need to finish...
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:03, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Updated the list for you :D
Shatterfrost (talk | contribs) 23:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
@Shatterfrost No, we need the Wiki Home page updated to include that. :P But thanks for updating that page! I nearly forgot it existed. EDIT: Nearly forgot my siggy existed too, apparently.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Block Page Question

I notice that in block pages, we use images of Scratchblocks rather than using the feature in the wiki. This is also sometimes used in pages that link to said blocks.

One example is hide.

However, we can work around both of these things using the tag, and I was wondering if we should change this, along with possibly removing said images. Here are examples of how to work around this.

Category Looks
Type Stack


Because of this, I was wondering why, if there is a reason, that we do this rather than using the feature.

Also, we could change the template if we did this, as to not have to use the pure code, and to fix formatting.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 03:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

I saw the "+1419" and came running. Yeah, I do think it's strange that they use pictures; after all, it just uses up more space on the wiki itself saving those files. Could it have something to do with some computers starting to lag the more Scratchblocks there are on-screen...? :/
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 03:04, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
Reasoning has been given as to why you can't have the sidebar with information use <sb>, and all cases with it being used as a link have been replaced, so this is Yes Done
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 13:43, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
HOLD UP. You need to look at the actual {{block}} template because if you look carefully what it does is if the image parameter exists, it takes that parameter and puts it inside brackets. So if you pass "File:Animation.gif" (not a file link, just the name!) into it, it will actually show the file. If you pass sb code into it, you'll be putting two sets of extra brackets around it! Like this: [[block]]. If it were a file name, it would be like this: File.png. Passing sb into that template does not work and breaks formatting. If we decide to switch to sb now, we'll have to change every last page that uses that template or we'll get a bunch of random filenames instead of sb for the unchanged pages when we change the template. Please reconsider! This would be a purely cosmetic change, with no practical use other than reducing storage.
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23:24, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Wait, kenny2scratch, are you saying that we should change them to save space, or that we shouldn't do it since it isn't very useful, and would take lots of work? Because if it's the first, I have marked this as done, thereby saying that we won't want to do this.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 02:26, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm saying don't because it breaks formatting.
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06:59, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

A Scratch account representing the Wiki

Hi everyone! I had the idea of having a Scratch account representing the Wiki over in Discord. The main questions with this are:

  1. Who should control it?
  2. What would its function be?

I don't know yet, so if you support this idea, please try to help answer these questions; if you don't support, try to help show that those questions don't have good answers. With that, discuss!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:12, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I think it could be an account shared between the admins and bureaucrats from the Discord server, only reason being that it'd be easy to say when one person's using the account or not. It would probably be used to make a studio about it and answer questions on the Scratch website itself.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 01:14, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
No support since I still don't get what its purpose is.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 01:16, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
What I was originally thinking was that it could answer questions (on the main site) related to the SW. I know there are people on here who basically already represent the Wiki, but it would help to have an official representative.
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01:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Meh, I don't think it's necessary. If anyone has questions they can just contact an EW/admin/bureaucrat on their Scratch user page.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 02:03, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
But do people on the normal website actually know who those people are? That's the question we should be asking.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 02:15, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Probably not, but people on the normal website wouldn't know where to find an official Scratch Wiki account either.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 02:19, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Someone who's not even on the Wiki can answer a question about the Wiki. As long as it's true it doesn't matter who it's coming from.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 16:37, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
This topic is not relevant anymore.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 18:40, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Welcome Messages

I think we should start regulations for personal welcome messages. I strongly believe that we have started to spam new users with too many messages - which will confuse them about what is more important to read.

I feel that they can be no higher and wider than the size of the current welcome template.

I believe that they should also be taken a look at and approved by an EW or ADMIN to check and make sure that it is not severely distracting and has no tagleaks.

I would like you opinion on this.

Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 16:46, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

I believe one new user made a mention about the spam and how it was too much to take in at once. I think a better approach is to ask new users if they thought it was overkill or not, take some statistics.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 16:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Ok. Ill go take a poll from a couple of the newer users.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:20, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

This isn't necessary, but would be really cool

A 'wikibreak template'. A wikibreak is where you take a break from editing a wiki for a reason.

18:47, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Heh. Support so I dont get 50 messages when I am gone. Maybe Ill make one.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 18:50, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure we reached a community consensus a while back that we don't create templates to be used for userpages. If anyone is out for whatever reason, they can put any sort of message they want on their userpage (in my case I would put something in the status box).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:02, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Really? Ok. Users could also just make a their own templates to.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 19:05, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
@Customhacker Yes, under their userspace though :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 20:39, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
That is what I meant.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 14:05, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Introduction to Customhacker

Heya! My name is Customhacker, and I am your new EW. In this post, I would like to post about my goals as EW, and what I will do in the near future.

As promised in my speech, I will work on the organization of this Wiki. New users will get a better introduction, not just 4 pages of information they may not need. I will also start being a stickler about Custom Signatures. They should start following the regulations outlined at S:CSIG. I will inform you if it should be fixed - no matter your position on the Wiki. Lastly, I would like to set up regulations for custom welcome messages that are now being put on talk pages. I feel that we are putting too much information in a users' face at one time. I do remember at one point, a user left this comment:

I haven't been on Wiki for long. One of the things I don't like about it is being told so much information at once, so it is hard to remember it all. Another thing I don't like is being reminded 24/7. I don't mind being remind occasionally, but not after every single post. I am not going to post very much because people ALWAYS find a problem with it.

These are just 3 of the things I will work on when I am EW. If you would like a more extensive list of my positions on things as EW, you can take a look at this page. If you have any questions, my talk page is always open. I cannot wait to work with you as EW!
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Congrats on EW! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 20:42, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
I wish I was an EW...maybe next year. These days I'm just somewhat messy.
Nickeljorn (talk | contribs) 21:33, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Could I point out something? Ok, so in your speech you said:
I’ve seen multiple Wikians join who would like to be active and helpful - but can't, as we left them to figure everything out! Users get S:NEW and S:CHEAT in their welcome message which isn't enough. I hate seeing users floundering, as they aren't able to reply to others. That’s the most basic thing on the Wiki - but users aren’t taught how to do it!

– Customhacker

This quote in a nutshell: We're not helping New Wikians enough.
So in your speech you said we weren't helping new users enough. So then, we all created Welcome templates to help new users. Now, you are telling us to stop doing this. You are contradicting what you said in your own speech.
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) 22:30, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
He was thinking more along the lines of we're doing it too much. None at all is bad he thinks, but I guess too much. So, like, a moderate amount he thinks is better. Also, I am planning on some Youtube tutorials on how to do stuff. I already made one on getting an account request.
Turkey3MiniProfilePic.pngTurkey3Sig1.pngTurkey3Sig2.pngTurkey3Sig3.pngContributionsTurkey3Sig5.png 22:32, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
What @turkey3 said - sometimes we end up putting like 5 messages on a page. 1 or 2 is good, even 3 is fine with me.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 23:35, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
Templates you mean?
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 02:15, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────@customhacker @Turkey3 I feel as though welcoming a lot of times is still good; after all, I liked it when I joined. It made me feel very welcome to the wiki, especially since I knew most of the users welcoming me. As far as I can tell, CatOverload liked it as well, as they thanked me on my profile (while mentioning everyone else) for welcoming them. I think we should continue welcoming a lot until we have more cases of people complaining about it (there aren't that many, really) at which point we shorten the amount.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 02:21, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

I like your Idea @WolfCat67.
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 14:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
In that case this conversation is Yes Done - @customhacker tell me if I'm wrong.
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06:56, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Goodluck our new EW's!

Hello, I have come to say congratulations to Customhacker and makethebrainhappy; I wish you both good luck as the new EW's For a moment when you could run in the election. I was thinking to myself "I wonder could I make 50 main space edits over the next day? And become really active?" But I didn't, because I am very shy I will go too far. Anyways! Back to the point Congratulations you to!
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 20:40, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

Thank you! :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
No problem!
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 05:39, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday: Broken Link

For Wiki Wednesday on the Scratch website, LiFaytheGoblin linked to "Article of the Month" instead of directly linking to the article itself. However, "Article of the Month" redirects to the Semicolon Glitch article; when it should be linking to Curator (front page).
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 16:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Yes Done by Turkey3, it seems.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 18:28, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

"Flat Design" Article?

So, on Wiki Wednesday, LiFay showed off some pretty neat articles. One of them was "flat design", an article on the Dutch Scratch Wiki. However, when I came to search it up on the English wiki, there were no results. Is there an article on this under a different name, or does it have its own section in another article? If not, should we make one based on what's written in the Dutch Wiki?
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 04:20, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

If it doesn't already exist, I'm sure it would be something we could add. I know a Scratcher who speaks Dutch and English- (s)he could probably help us translate the article.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 06:39, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
There are plenty of articles on the other language wikis that don't have English counterparts, for various reasons. I just finished translating the German version of Scratch@MIT2014 to English (click that link to see what I did) (with the help of Google Translate), and I think that basically, if you find anything on other wikis that you think deserves an article here, go ahead and make it! edit conflict with makethebrainhappy...
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:43, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I think making articles like that here on the English wiki is a good idea. :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 13:35, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Alright, I've created the Flat Design article. I used Google Translate for most of it but made sure to alter it to use English properly. I also used most of the same images for it. All that I didn't include were the example images, as four examples were already given during the rest of the article. I didn't know what category to put it into, though; any help with that?
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 15:45, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Put them in Category:Example Images
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@Turkey3 That's where I put the images (also, nice to see that category being used, it's really quite useful); I meant the article itself, sorry. I should've put that earlier in my post, but my thinking is sometimes crazy. XD
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 16:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────Does the Dutch wiki not have citations?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:02, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

@Makethebrainhappy No, actually. Unless you count the example images shown throughout the article as citations, which I don't think they do. There were a few statements that when run through Google Translate were meant to be "facts", but they had no sources for them so I just went with what was there. It now has {{inaccurate}} over it to show that it needs more references.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 21:13, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Automatic curator announcements

Those of you who have been patrolling the RC may have noticed that I have been preparing the news page so that it can take automatic curator announcements. I have completed work on that and they should start next Monday! The implications of this:

  • We no longer need people to announce new FPCs on the CP
  • The script checks once an hour, it doesn't update instantly, be patient
  • If a human updates the curator from now on, that will throw off the bot (other announcements are fine as is correcting a mistake in the bot announcement)
  • We will see on Monday how well it really works, but testing it so far has worked
  • Right now it only updates the news. It does not update the list of curators. I will add that after Monday once I can verify that it works.

Enjoy the faster curator announcements!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:46, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Outstanding! Cant wait to test it!
Customhacker Logo Blue.jpg Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 17:49, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
This will definitely make my job easier xD
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Sounds great! I cant wait to see it in action.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 23:08, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Basically this means we can use the news page as a guide to tell us when to update the list! Cool!
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23:09, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, good to see you got this finished so soon. :)
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 03:21, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
Awesome! I can't wait until Monday! :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:20, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Note Block Project Tutorial: New Article

I've been working on a few note block projects recently, and it seems that some people don't know how to actually make them, or just don't understand them. Is it a good idea for a tutorial article about how to create a note block song to be created?
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 20:41, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely. Check first to see if one already exists :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:43, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
I did; couldn't find any. The MIDI notes article gave a nice explanation of what the blocks do, the history, and also which notes line up with which value; but it didn't give a tutorial on how to make a project sound good with it. I don't feel like creating another new article today, though; already did so with Flat Design. I might create it later, though, if nobody else does.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 20:50, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
Yes Done
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 03:58, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

Th: New Template

I have an idea for a new template: th. Basically, {{th}} produces th, and {{th|1}} produces st, and I think you get the idea. This would save some bytes:


Can I go ahead?
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03:27, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

That's a nice idea! I'm in support of this. Saves some bytes, too, and makes it a whole lot easier, so why not?
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 03:59, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
08:02, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
The main problem is remembering which is which, but we have the preview button, so I'm sure we could memorize it eventually.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 12:52, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I think that's a great idea!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 15:08, 1 July 2017 (UTC)
I totally support this, it would make editing a lot easier.
Jromagnoli (talk | contribs) 17:55, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── Thanks! I'll go make it now then.
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05:35, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

@Duckboycool: Take a look at the template documentation! You can pass the number you're using to change the suffix appropriately. It even senses 11, 12, 13 and makes sure that they don't get changed to st, nd, and rd. Take a look: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 21st, 22nd, and I think you get the idea.
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06:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
Oh, I see. I thought it was just each thing had a number attached to it overall. I didn't realize what it was actually doing. That makes more sense.
Duckboycool.jpg  Duckboycool  (Talk | Contribs | Edits) 12:20, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
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