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New Template

 Not done Should we add

Is is in question whether the subject of this page meets the Scratch Wiki's notability guidelines. You can discuss whether you want it deleted or not on its talk page. Reason: {{{1}}}

as a template? 
 Mitopolis (talk | contribs) 03:01, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

No support, just use {{NotUseful|Not notable}} instead.

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 03:08, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

You can, but notability is why most people use that template. Why not have it as its own template?
Mitopolis (talk | contribs) 03:19, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

You could just use {{not notable}} to get that. It would just be easier.
Mitopolis (talk | contribs) 03:21, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

{{NotUseful}} is better IMO since it is a general template that indicates we might not want the page, but it lets you be more specific too. Having multiple templates suggesting we might want to delete the page seems redundant.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:56, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I'll temporarily put it on BeetleBlocks as an example.
Mitopolis (talk | contribs) 21:00, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

I made a better example here.
Mitopolis (talk | contribs) 03:50, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘Or here.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 21:15, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I think {{notUseful}} replaces it well.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:54, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

The main purpose is that it would be faster and it already has a link to Scratch Wiki:New Page Policies, which really decides if we keep a page. Also, BeetleBlocks seems like it is nothing but a violation of those guidelines. Maybe one of us should ask non-Wikians on the main site if they know about BeetleBlocks. Most would probably ask, "What's BeetleBlocks?"
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 20:48, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Hm, no offence please but I don't quite see how most people not knowing something is a reason against having an article on the wiki where people can in fact learn about things that exist in the world of Scratch that they didn't know about before? I don't know, does that make sense? - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 21:03, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Those policies clearly state that something must be notable to be on here.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 21:08, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

They say, "Only create pages for Scratch modifications that would widely be considered extremely notable." BeetleBlocks would widely be considered extremely un-notable.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 21:17, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

It is indeed a requirement to create a page, but please keep the discussion about BeetleBlocks on its talk page. As that applies to this template, it's also a requirement that articles be appropriate (we actually used to have a template for that, but we removed it), not duplicates, and clearly related to Scratch, but we don't have templates for all those. We just use {{NotUseful}} instead, since it's a multi-purpose template.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘OK. Do you think this would benefit, hurt, or not affect the Wiki?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 02:14, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

It probably wouldn't hurt per se, but I don't think it would help much. One of the goals of the Wiki is avoiding redundancy, and at least in my opinion, the {{NotUseful}} template accomplishes basically the same thing, but also puts pages in a category so we can see them all at once.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:45, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

OK. It would be so you could be more specific about why it isn't notable without a super-long reason.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:04, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

You could still do {{NotUseful|<Not notable because most Scratchers haven't heard of it>}}. That isn't that long (it really only adds the first three words) but still brings across the same message.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:14, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

This would, eventually, save bytes on the server. That "Not notable because " part adds 19 bytes. "Not Notable" is 2 bytes bigger than "NotUseful." The template is 443 bytes. It saves 17 bytes per page. After 26 pages, it would save a byte. See?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 22:44, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

The focus on bytes is a little misguided. There is plenty of space on the server, and an image takes thousands to millions of bytes. Saving a single digit number of bytes doesn't really make a difference, especially when the server still keeps the original revision.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:50, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

This would work if we put it on the pages in the first place.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 14:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)

I believe this discussion is done, and the answer is "no support" based off of jvvg, KrIsMa, Hamish752, and my opinion. I will archive this tomorrow evening, unless someone new supports or brings up good evidence.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:05, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki Monthly News Report

 Done - I think: Nothing happend and the link is broken. Right?

Hello fellow Scratch Wiki Editors! Once a month I will come up with a Scratch Wiki News Report and post it on the Community Portal. It will consist of

• News
• Events
• Articles
• Scratch Trends
• Scratch Wiki Trends
  

and more!

The Official Page can be found here , but is Under Construction!

This monthly news report will continue throughout many years to come. It is a good idea so people know what's going on around the Scratch Wiki and can see what is yet to come.

I am also looking for one or two other Scratch Wiki Editors to help me with this Monthly News Report. So, if you'd like to join the team please reply to this message.

Thank you,
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 01:43, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

That sounds cool! And very helpful, especially for the people who don't have much time! -
LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:10, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

I might be interested. What is entailed? EDIT: You can tell me on my talk page. ;)
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 14:42, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

^^^^^
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 15:31, 29 February 2016 (UTC)

Really great idea! I'm looking forward to the first issue. It would be very convincing to start that thing with a complete impressing issue (or at least a part of it) you made yourself. Starting with "I will do it for years...but I have nothing until now...but I am searching for people that could do something" is at least "a little bit" less impressing ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:06, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Woof!

Woof! Prealpha is finally released! It is here!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 02:41, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

That's cool! :) But what does it have to do with the wiki? Mods can't be in alpha if they have a page.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:40, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I just don't use the forums, so I do stuff here. Did you try Woof!?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 14:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

I skimmed woof, and the things I like the most are clone and broadcast [ v], and list [].

What was the goal of the mod? Just to experiment, or to something else?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:22, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

The main goal was to add the [] in list blocks, not [ v]. That is what I call "Semi-first-class data".
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:28, 4 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I did try it :). It's pretty cool!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 04:47, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

A few broken-block removals, and it is ready! (Unfortunately, cloning will go until a later version.)
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 18:09, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Woof! (Scratch Modification)
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 19:31, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

AF Vote

Please vote on Sonic content for the AF Wiki. +1 if you support removal, -1 if you support leaving it, +0 if you don't care, +.5 it you don't want it gone, but want some removed. Rules:

• Only one vote per Wikian.
• Admin/EW votes count twice.
• No changing votes.
• No changing the support rating.

Supprot rating: 1. At the and of the voting, if this is positive, we will desonic, otherwise, we will allow it.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 04:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

+1
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 04:45, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmm I did a quick search and the only AF pages I could find with "Sonic" on them, were the following.

• User:Jvvg/AF/Project Ideas (forum)
• User:Jvvg/AF/Scratch Cat
• User:Jvvg/AF/Questions about Scratch (forum)
• User:Jvvg/AF/Scratch Team
• User:Jvvg/AF/Single Stepping
• User:Jvvg/AF/Love-it
• User:Jvvg/AF/ScratchX
• User:Jvvg/AF/Kaj
• User:Jvvg/AF/Scratch Cards
• User:Jvvg/AF/Forum Terminology
• User:Jvvg/AF/Stage

That makes 11. Are there any other AF articles which have sonic in them which aren't on this list? Because IMO 11 articles isn't really a substantial amount.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:06, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

Try searching "Blaze," "Shadow," and "Hedgehog." Also, what is your vote?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:42, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

As the person actually in charge of the AF Wiki, I have already stated the official position on Sonic: it is allowed there is no reason to go around removing it. Unless you have something funnier to replace it with, do not remove it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:26, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

We do need a consensus on Kaj, which is funnier, fish or Sonic.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:07, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

+9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999. I HATE SONIC. Fish is funnier than Sonic.

TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 19:01, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

"I HATE SONIC" isn't exactly a good reason to remove it. Please be more respectful in discussions, especially when the discussion is about something very trivial.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:14, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

... Well, it's been annoying us all. Hogging up the AF Wiki... isn't that a good enough reason?
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 19:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I have said this before and will say it again: if you have something that you can show is funnier, you're welcome to put it in. However, until you can produce that, you can't just remove Sonic because you don't like it. In the meantime, being rude or disrespectful because you disagree with somebody is not acceptable. You are welcome to disagree with people, but you have to voice your disagreement in a calm, reasonable, and respectful manner. Going around shouting that you hate something does not fit any of those criteria. Also, I will bring this up again: these are a set of pages that are only shown for one day a year. Everybody is getting way too worked up about a set of joke pages. Think for a second about how important the AF pages are compared to the rest of the Wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:28, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Jvvg is correct. Also, even if you do have something better to put, it's still not okay to be disrespectful to the topic you're replacing. Whoever implemented sonic on AF pages obviously did so because they enjoy the topic of Sonic. If you were to add something about Hockey (just going based off your username :P) and someone removed it saying how much they hate hockey because it's super annoying, your feelings would be hurt. In the future, while you were only expressing your opinion, please be sure to do so appropriately and respectfully. Thanks :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

Correct.

Also, I go with the "Shadow" idea because while I was viewing the "fish" revamp, it was kinda sad because the fish was eaten up. It would be surprising if people discovered Kaj was a video character.

♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 01:23, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Rules

I think we should rethink the "no non-notable mods" rule. I didn't know about any mods until I read their articles. I think the Wiki should also be a place to learn about mods you didn't even know existed. Think about Woof, is it a notable mod? No. Is it a special mod? I don't really know. What do you think?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 23:35, 5 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm surprised to hear this from the same user who was asking for BeetleBlocks and TurtleStitch to be deleted only a couple of months ago, because not enough users knew about them. Anyway, I don't support. I only think the really notable mods should be on the Wiki, and Woof! is definitely not one of those.

By the way, the CP needs archiving.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 00:21, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Well, this brings us back to the Wiki Guidelines, which say the Wiki isn't an advertising hub. The question is this: do you use the Wiki to get people to learn about your mod or do you use it to document it once people already know about it? In general we are pretty aggressive in enforcing the S:NOSP policy, and I think that only allowing notable mods is an extension of that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:16, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I agree with what's said above. If we start allowing just any mods to be added, then users will call for project tutorials, user examples, contests documentation, etc. There has to be a line and I believe that where it's currently at is working just fine. :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

Do you think Woof! is a special mod?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:04, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I like to see less "notable" articles on the wiki (like BeetleBlocks or TurtleStitch), as long as they are no advertizing. If it is not clear if an article is advertizing, there could always be a discussion on that on the Community Portal. -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 17:08, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

So you think the Woof! article should come back?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 18:52, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I think that mods should be given articles if they're available to everyone and the article won't become a stub. Plus the article shouldn't be written as an advertisement for the modification. Oh and @LiFaytheGoblin it's advertising.
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 20:13, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

The Woof! article wasn't advertising at all.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 20:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I mean how to SPELL advertising ;)
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:18, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Please answer my question: Is Woof! a special mod?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 22:48, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Special is a vague term. You'll need to be more specific.

Either way, it seems that no, Woof! is not a highly used mod. So far, it looks like a mod as highly used as a mod someone made for fun.

If you want to better convince us, maybe you can show us people using said mod for their projects and websites in several notable places?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:20, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I just released it yesterday.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 23:22, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I mean, do you think the features are special?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 23:25, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Wether or not Woof! has special features, it does not change the standard by which the Wiki decides if we should have a modification page. As jvvg said, that standard is notability.

The way I choose to measure notability is by asking, "Are there extended, multiple, usages of Woof! ?"

So far I have seen none. Also, since Woof! was released just yesterday, that suggests that it is not well known.

As such, Woof! does not seem notable.

Maybe later it can deserve an article.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:42, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

What do you mean by "extended, multiple, usages?" If you mean new types of projects,You could practically host a website or entire filesystem with it!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:21, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

By extended, multiple usages of Woof!, I mean multiple real-life examples of a Scratcher using Woof! for more then a few days.

One key term is real-life: The example has happened, and not "might happen".
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:17, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

</offtopic>What do you think abot the rules change?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 01:20, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The Wiki is not an advertising hub, so I don't see any reason why to move away from "no non-notable mods"
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:35, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes. But we should define "notable". Suggestion: Something is notable for the scratch-wiki when you can give a proof (normally links) that multiple people have been involved with it multiple times . If a Mod (or an other item mentioned in the Scratch-Wiki) has a professional homepage, an own blog or forum, videos, active discussion at the scratch-forum or somewhere else, presentations at conferences, scientific papers or other stuff that shows that people care for it, these are strong hints that it is "notable". If none of the things mentioned exists, this is a strong hint that it is not "notable". "Being published yesterday by me" is IMHO a strong hint that the author who writes that tries to provoke the others ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:57, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

Question

Just wondering, have there been any problems with my edits?
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 21:19, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I mean, everyone has made mistakes on the wiki before, but I can't think of anyone one edit that was very problematic.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:23, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

OK. Thanks.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 21:24, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

I agree with KrIsMa. I think that your edits have been generally pretty good :)
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:57, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

Signature Importance

Hey, I've been noticing people intentionally removing and omitting their signatures from their posts in order to test WM. This might seem harmless, but it actually causes some issues.

Please keep the wiki neat and consistent. If you omit your signature, not only does it prevent others from knowing who you are but it can give other people the go-ahead to not sign their posts as well.

Thank you for observing this.
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits`

Ok. I have to admit I did this before. I was curious on what would happen!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, sorry, I've accidentally left off my signature before, but that was when I was first starting to work on the wiki
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:57, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

If you do it by accident once or twice it's okay. It's just when people deliberately leave off their signatures to test WikiMonitor.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:59, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Personally, I try not to be bot-ed.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:27, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

I was the one who tested it.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 20:46, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

sometimes I just forget
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 19:12, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Homepage

When there's a new curator, change his/her to their. Personally, I think it's boring seeing his/her all the time.
Banana439monkey (talk | contribs) 16:58, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Newspaper

I made a newspaper called The CP Weekly. (Why doesn't AutoCorrect like "CP?" It is used all the time on wikis.) Why not join!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 14:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

What's involved?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 15:06, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

User talk:Mitopolis/CPWeekly/Sign-Up
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 15:07, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Where did the monthly go? It seemed nice.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:38, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd need to know what's involved before I could come up with a reason I want to join.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 16:53, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

You need to:

• Be active in discussions
• Help get the CP ready to archive
• Help end discussions, not continue them when we've already had a consensus, and
• Help continue discussions until we have a consensus.
  Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:59, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Well, I think most people do that last two... Anyway, what I'm asking is...what's involved in being a reporter? I mean, we can all do those four things ^ but, that's not exactly reporting. XD Sorry if I seem to be being picky, but I just want to understand how this works.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 17:06, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Whenever we have a notable discussion, add a section with some quotes, a description of what it was about, and a list of users involved.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:11, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Definition of notable?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 17:12, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Three or more users involved and about at least one page.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:14, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Ok, got that. But what do you mean by a "Page"? Isn't the CP in itself a page? Do you mean long enough to fill the screen? That's subjective due to resolution and screen size...but...I guess?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 17:50, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

I mean that the discussion is about a page.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:52, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Isn't there already a Wiki Newspaper run by AghaCool?
 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

There is, but this is specifically about discussions.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 18:02, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Yes, there is. I asked for more information on it, but never got a response, so I don't know if that one is actually functional or not. @Mitopolis, ok. Gotcha.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 18:24, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Now do you want to be a reporter? I'll just add you.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 19:47, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

Eh, why not. ;) I'll give it a shot.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 02:03, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm willing to join and help out :D!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:25, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

OK!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:28, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

What happened to the Monthly Newspaper? Mitopolis, this is pretty much copying my idea and I'm not very happy right now.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:29, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I'm not copying your idea, this will be only about discussions, where yours is more general. Reasons why it isn't copying yours:

• Yours is about the Wiki and Scratch itself, this is only about the Wiki,
• Yours doesn't cover discussions, that is all this one covers, and
• What is the problem with 2 newspapers?
  Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:03, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Gotcha! I understand now! Thanks for clarifying :)
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:55, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

You're welcome!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 15:06, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Suggestion

Could we make an extension that gives us admin-rights in our own userspace? (protect, delete, editprotected, ...)
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 04:24, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

By this do you mean just the "User" namespace, or the User Talk namespace as well?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 04:30, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Both, and only under Special:MyPage and Special:MyTalk.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 04:31, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

But then you could go and delete revisions in your talk page, if someone said something you didn't like. Or you could go and protect it, so no one could leave you messages.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 04:39, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Regardless, this would take a long time to code for minimal benefit. The current system of just trusting users (and then reverting their edits if they don't follow the rules) works fine.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:51, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

OK, no protecting and no hiding edits. Other than that, the main benefit would be deleting out of your userspace.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:04, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Again, it would be a lot of work for not a lot of benefit. All you need to do is put on a delete template and an admin or EW will get to it in probably less than a few hours. It's never really so urgent that you need a page in your userspace deleted immediately, is it?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:36, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

HELP!!!! 2 Seconds ago It said that the scratch website had SERVER ISSUES!!!!!!!! WHAT CAN I DO??????????? (remind me not to reload the page with the scratch project I was watching)
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 23:37, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

Same . It's working for me now though.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:46, 12 March 2016 (UTC)

It went down for me, then when it came up, messages weren't working worth anything. It was dead. I could get messages in my inbox, but nothing when I actually went there. Now it's down again.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:06, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

It went down while I was working on a project. I made the mistake of trying to go to another page, then when I went back, everything was gone. At least it was only a backdrop and two sprites :P
Pianogirl84 (talk | contribs) 00:11, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah. It's annoying when that happens. *Imagines the life of a server.*
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:13, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

And NOW I have a DIFFERENT error! (looks on the wiki to see which one it is,) MAINTENANCE MODE!!!! Maybe the ST is giving us time to work on the wiki? If that's the case GOODBYE STUBS!!!!!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:18, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Oh by the way, Programmer, here's your reminder not to reload that page.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:21, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

thanks! I heard from This'n'gain The ST had a Power Outage!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:33, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

You're not joking right?
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:39, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Why would I joke? this is The SCRATCH wiki! Of course I COULD joke but I'm being honest
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:44, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

But how would that affect the servers? I mean, I don't know where the Scratch servers are...but...Maybe at MIT? Maybe not...
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 01:03, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

The servers are indeed at MIT. A few years ago, I remember my brother at Harvard informed me of a power outage in Cambridge, and sure enough the website was down (and for a while it said "We're coming back from a power outage"). See this announcement for details.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm... Look at what this random person called jvvg wrote "Also, I learned how addicted I am to this website yesterday :P" Cool! i wonder who jvvg (sarcastically) I NEVER have SEEN him on the WIKI
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 02:22, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Ahahahah so he did .
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 02:26, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Cool! I did not know that! :D Thanks for the input!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 02:53, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Wait, the ST had a power outage? That makes sense, as there was no other message on the Scratch Twitter page like there usually is. At least it's back up now :P
Pianogirl84 (talk | contribs) 13:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

It's back up.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:54, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

The Wiki Times!

Hello, if you don't know The Wiki Times is a new newspaper on the Scratch Wiki! I am no longer going to post issues on the Community Portal, but instead I will be posting it on the official page. If you haven't looked at the March 5th Newspaper yet, please check it out! Currently we have one manager, Hamish752. We really need some reporters so if you are interested please leave a comment on the official page. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns please reply to this message!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:58, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Pac-Trivia

Do you want to play some Pac-Man themed trivia? If you do, go here!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:10, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

articles that aren't directly related to Scratch but kind of

There's an interesting discussion on a talk page somewhere... I've been noticing some articles on the wiki starting to get less and less related to Scratch. Take Computer Science for example. The content is mostly about things not related to Scratch. In Computer, there is a small section relating to Scratch, but other than that, it isn't really directly related to Scratch. I think that if we don't have a discussion on whether this "digression" is a good idea or not, these types of articles will continue to be built, and it may or may not help the wiki.

tl;dr - should articles like Computer Science and Computer - that don't directly relate to Scratch, be on the Scratch Wiki?
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:09, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

They should; but we should focus more on how the topoic relates to Scratch.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:54, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Articles such as "Wikipedia" and "Super Pi Day" are definitely not related enough to get an article though.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:07, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

Maybe instead of a "Pi Day" article, it would be better to have a more condensed article explaining how Scratch has celebrated various days (if we don't have one already).

Back on topic, what you said KrIsMa is true. I just guess that at times, people are eager to make articles on the Wiki because it is a small sign of prestige. We just need to remember that quality is better than quantity.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:59, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that is true. I think we should edit or delete pages based on that.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:02, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

yes I support (I'm really new to the wiki so don't judge me).
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 12:25, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Finally!!

wikipedia:Scratch Wiki
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:39, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Looks like it's on a list for speedy deletion.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 00:52, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

I know. I hadn't explained it well enough but I fixed that.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 01:26, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Ah. Good 'nuff!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 01:47, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

It is done! Are you a Wikipedia editor? If you are, let's work on it together!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 02:50, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry Mitopolis but I had to re-add the speedy deletion tag . You can't remove a deletion tag from an article you created yourself, you can however contest the deletion. Lol sorry haha.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Funny thing is I was actually thinking of starting the same article myself lol.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:49, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

It got deleted. But, I can recreate it and have the new one be better!
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 14:38, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Ah, it's looking better now :)
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:19, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm... I don't really edit wikipedia but remember to cite it using reliable sources. My teacher doesn't like us using wikipedia, BUT do to Model UN and the teacher doing Model UN I've been using it more often. Its actually quite good if you cite it properly! My teacher just doesn't like it and I can agree with him but as long as its citations are good and reliable... Oh and add a bit more information on the wiki sections. I don't know why but I ALWAYS get frustrated when the little sub articles aren't the same length! Oh and Its written like an advertisement.
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 23:30, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmm. I do have to agree that it does smack a little of an advertisement.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:08, 17 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh and I don't think there needs to be a mention of April Fools Day. maybe Make it a tiny bit like the Scratch wiki article here? Its a lot more iformitive. Right now Its all inside jokey.
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:38, 18 March 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday - April

Hello everyone! This month was the opening month for Wiki Wednesday (WW) , and it was a success! Since it began, the featured article "Remix" got hundreds of views. Specially, it has gotten ~1600 views. That's many hundreds greater than normal, ~1000 views more. Once WW finishes, I expect Remix will have gotten ~1500 extra views. It's a good success!

The next Wiki Wednesday is fast approaching us. We need to find a good article for it. Any suggestions?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:45, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I suggest the article Paint Editor, since it is very detailed and refers to one of the most used features of Scratch.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 20:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

What about Cloud Data? It's something minorly complicated that could help new users. The paint editor idea sounds good too! :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

I'd suggest the Sound article. Or maybe the Removed_Pac-Man_Project
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 21:18, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I think Paint Editor would be a good choice.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:31, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

Ooh, cloud data is a good idea!
Pianogirl84 (talk | contribs) 22:11, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

I think Cloud Data or Removed_Pac-Man_Project would be good. I think that the Removed_Pac-Man_Project would be especially good because I don't think a lot of Scratchers know about that!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:12, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

Hey everyone! Thanks for your suggestion so far! So these are the suggestions you made, together with my thoughts:

• Paint Editor - I love this article! It has content and pictures and it is probably very helpful!
• Cloud Data - super interesting and probably helpful to many - but what about new Scratchers? It would be like: Oh look at this candy, it's delicious, but by the way, you can't have it, only Scratchers can.
• Sound - I like this suggestion! The article explains very well about sounds in Scratch and it is not too much text :D
• Removed_Pac-Man_Project - Interesting, but maybe not quite important enough

LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 10:02, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

I personally think that paint editor or sound would be best. Sound would be my favorite choice because paint editor is so long it might scare people off!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 20:09, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Actually, yeah paint editor is a little long. I vote for sound.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 06:06, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

I guess it sounds like we have a decision. We will be featuring Sound.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 08:45, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

It's Wiki Wednesday and the forum post is out here: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/191227/ ! Thanks everyone!!! -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 20:34, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Thank you LiFaytheGoblin! :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:10, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

NEW FPC!

The new Front Page Curator is Csoup!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:18, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

 Done

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

Wrong current FPC number on the homepage

To anyone who can edit the homepage; I noticed that the wiki front page is a bit.. wrong. supercooljulia wasn't the one-hundred-ninety-second curator and Csoup wasn't the one-hundred-ninety-third curator. I hope somebody can fix this.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 01:26, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

 Done

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs  01:52, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Nice catch!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:42, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

April Fools

Hm... Well, the Scratch Website is going to having an April Fools Celebration like the always do, but what should the Scratch Wiki do that is really special for April Fools? Leave a comment with an idea and I'll add it to the list. If you see one you like leave ideas on what to do for that specific idea

• April Fools Day Ceremony -
• April Fools Day Wiki Party -
• Edible Scratch Wiki -
• Request every page to be deleted -
• (admin posts on the home page) The Wiki will now be closed on Fridays because everyone is too busy eating waffles to take care of it.
• Admin changes Scratch Wiki Logo

Any more ideas?

Check out the April Fools Page for 2016
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 16:02, 24 March 2016 (UTC)

Hmm... Maybe we can get some ideas from Wikipedia? link
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 09:01, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

We could do something that the Scratch Team did last year. It could be "Edible Scratch Wiki" There could be users that blanked their user page and left one food word. Ideas anyone?
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:30, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Or maybe we could do something like "The wiki is going to be shutting down... PERMANENTLY!!!" or is that to scary?
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 15:11, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

I have an idea. How about we nominate every page on this Wiki to be deleted, for the reason that it "does not talk about back scratching, the best form of scratching" ?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:08, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

@ErnieParke- I love that idea! Maybe we could all put on our profiles that the Wiki will now be closed on Fridays because everyone is too busy eating waffles to take care of it.
Pianogirl84 (talk | contribs) 21:18, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Or we could actually delete every page on the Wiki with the reason S:NOSP xD.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:50, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I actually kind of like the drift of this. I think we could makes something rather hilarious out of it. *Prankster side comes out...* Well, if no one does anything stupid to me this year IRL, I'll consider myself to have come well out of it.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 22:01, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

On second thoughts, how would the "deletion" of all the pages propagate to the Main Scratch site? I mean, some people look at the wiki, sure, I don't think MOST people do...
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 22:14, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, actually deleting the pages was a bit of a stupid idea tbh
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:44, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Well, can we dream up some other silly idea to do to the pages?
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 22:56, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Hm... We could put that up on the front page. Nice idea @Pianogirl84!

By the way, I feel like we should categorize Category:Recursion Images under Category:Recursion Images. Anyone agree?

As for the suggesting everything for deletion idea, we can easily add that on top of the April Fools template.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:24, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Great idea everyone! @ErnieParke - I love your idea. Anyone else think that's a good idea? @Pianogirl84 - I love that ideas as well! ErnieParke send that the admins can put that on the front page.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 23:25, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ ATTENTION! We will have ONE more day of coming up with ideas for April Fools. After that day is over, the voting will began. We will vote on a few ideas that we would like to have for April Fools. The voting will take place [Removed] After the voting ends (which will probably be on March 29th or 30th), I will contact most of the admins and Experienced Wikians on what you the Wiki Editors decided on. Then we wait for April Fools Day. If you have any questions or comments, let me know. HAPPY EARLY EASTER EVERYONE!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 23:53, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

Happy early Easter!! I'm out of other ideas, though. I can't wait for April Fool's day!

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

I'm probably going to be doing something with the newspaper for April Fools Day. :)
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 00:18, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Anyone? Since, its Easter today, we'll have one more day of ideas for April Fools, then we'll start the voting. Happy Easter and Scratch On!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 22:21, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Well... We need to connect with the main site so How about we leave a spot where we can Immediately change its contents to match the jokes of the Scratch Team?
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

We don't need to replicate what Scratch does. However, we could update the Scratch Wiki logo image on April Fools...
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:03, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

It would be better to do something different than on the main Website. I like the idea on how you (ErnieParke) would be able to update the Scratch Wiki logo. Everyone great ideas so far! Continue coming up with ideas! Voting will open tomorrow morning. Scratch On!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 23:19, 28 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Voting is now open! Go [Removed] to vote for what we should do on April Fools on the Scratch Wiki! Once you fill out the form, please reply to this message confirming that you were the one who filled out the form. This is the only way I can confirm who fills out the form so I can make sure someone is not pretending to be another user. Voting will end on March 30th.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:03, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Voted. :)
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 15:56, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I voted. Sorry I wasn't so active the past few days.
Tiger75 (talk | contribs) 16:01, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Wonderful! And Amateurradiogeek15 I wish you got stickers, but sadly you don't.:( I might do something similar to that though...
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 17:09, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I was totally kidding. I'm a bit random today. Bear with me.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:19, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

I voted! Also, in the form it says "This form was created through *what I'm guessing was your school's name". I hope you're okay with that....

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Yes, I voted.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 22:57, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘

I'm perfectly fine with voting on here :) I like the fourth (nominate all pages to be deleted) and fifth (have the news say the wiki will close on Fridays) ideas :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

Filled out :)
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 07:30, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Voting is now closed! Happy Scratching Everyone!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:38, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

It seems we cannot change the Wiki logo. However, AF is meow on track! :)

On a side note, some of you might have noticed that InterwikiBot ran two minutes ago. What is was doing was taking AF wiki templates and replacing regular templates. This was suggested by Jvvg in a separate chat, and I followed through with it:

Jvvg: anyone have the bot skillz to move the templates?

Ernie Parke: Yes.

Jvvg: please do
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:54, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

The bot edits are now reverted. If you see any mistakes, please revert them and notify me. Thank you!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:21, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I actually didn't notice it because it's a bot and therefore is hidden in recent changes :P
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:48, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

What is the international scratch wiki meeting?

Just wondering :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:31, 25 March 2016 (UTC)

Officially, it's called the Interntainal Scratchclub.

Awhile ago, the DACH wiki started having a weekly Skype meeting to discuss Wiki issues, like what article to feature that week, exciting developments in Scratch, how to get German kids excited about coding, ect... This meeting was called the Scratchclub.

Awhile ago I started to join the meeting because of the Test Wiki. It might be obvious, but I'm neither German nor DACH. After awhile, the DACH wiki noticed a few problems, partly that some DACH wikians used to join every meeting, but did not do so now. We asked why. They said that the meetings were long and boring.

It was later suggested that we split the DACH Scratchclub into two parts: DACH and international. Using this system, DACH matters would be discussed during the DACH meeting, and everything else during the international meeting. In general, this made Scratchclub nicer for everyone. That was when the international Scratchclub was officially termed. Since then, every Monday, Scratchclub has been convening on TeamSpeak to chat.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 08:41, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

To answer your question without you having to read Ernie's massive blob of text, it's every Monday at 3pm EST on TeamSpeak and it usually goes for about 90 minutes.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:48, 26 March 2016 (UTC)

I found Ernie's blob of text quite interesting. ;) Thanks! :P
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:44, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Oh whoops, I thought the title was "when is the international scratch wiki meeting?" xD
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks :D
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:16, 27 March 2016 (UTC)

We would love to have new members :D There's a meeting tomorrow at 3pm if you can make it! :D

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Something that we forgot to mention, it is live voice. Be sure you have parents permission to talk with other people :) There is a chat feature, but you still hear us talking :P
 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

things that require mentions on the wiki

We should make a list of topics that require mention on the wiki. (the shop directory, UPC)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 18:34, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

We should not make such a list until there's consensus that those topics "require" mention on the Wiki, and frankly, at the moment there's quite the opposite.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:32, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

What most of us agree on is that extremely notable things, such as the largest shop/thread in each forum, and maybe some stickies deserve mention on the wiki. I'm not saying that we should make pages for anything, I'm just saying that such statistics that we have agreed upon should just have a list, so that we can keep track of it. I know that I made a mention to the largest shop in the requests forum. I would also suggest that we should include mentions to all the different stickies and ITopics in a forum. They are supported by the ST, who turned them into stickies. Frankly, they are an important part of each forum. There should be a section on each of the forum's wiki page mentioning all of the stickies and ITopics. They are usually guides, and contain useful information for wiki browsers. I think we could agree to support something like this, where small statistics and stickies are added to the forum's wiki page to make it more informative
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:01, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you're aware, but some forums have quite a lot of stickies. For an example, the Suggestions, Questions about Scratch, New Scratchers, and Show and Tell forums have 6 stickies. Mentions are supposed to be short, and linking to six different topics seems a bit long :P However, I completely agree with you that the stickies are very important in the forums. I think a reminder on each page saying something about being sure to read the stickies would be great. :D Also, I don't really see a point in mentioning specific stickies as people who are reading about a specific forum have likely already visited or are going to visit the forum and will see the stickies regardless :P

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

We could just use links right? That doesn't take up a lot of space. I'm not sure we are concerned with the length. Maybe, but not many people would've looked at all the ITopics, or know how to find them. What about stickies from the 1.4 forums (or other past forums). I haven't even visited those. I think that we could compress it into list form, keep it short and brief, and give an extra sentence to the most important sticky :). Do you support the statistics point?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:29, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

“	What most of us agree on is that extremely notable things, such as the largest shop/thread in each forum, and maybe some stickies deserve mention on the wiki.	”
– makethebrainhappy

That statement needs a ^{[citation needed]} template. Most of us? There's no consensus that they do deserve mention. Also, if people don't read the Stickies/iTopics, then I highly doubt that they'll just happen to stumble upon a page with a list of them on the Wiki, and read every one of them.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:18, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

"Hey everyone! I haven't read all of this but st19_galla gave me an insight on what this discussian is about at the last international Scratch Wiki meeting. I think there should not be made articles about shops or Griffpatch. However, I think it is worth to mention them at appropriate places. For example in an article about following you'd add one line about "The most followed Scratcher is Griffpatch." simply because things like these are questions that Scratchers are wondering about (same for most viewed/loved/favorited project, if someone has info about that). As for shops, maybe when explaining shops in general, somewhere you could add "As of .. of March 2016, the most popular shop is [url name] with ... members/ whatever". I think it's not necessary to say anything else (don't add the name of the founder btw, because maybe that would lead to more fame-competition-stuff), since if people are interested in learning more, they can just click the link to the shop. So these are my thoughts... -" LiFayTheGoblin
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 11:05, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Smalls mentions of notable things seem okay, however we need to ensure that they are small. Anything larger would be missing the main topic of the page, whatever the page is.

Since it seems we need a list, how about I start one? We can revise it as we agree/disagree on things. (Feel free to edit it.)

• A small mention of the largest topic in each form.
• The most followed Scratcher.
• Stickies and ITopics

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:33, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Exactly :). Added Stickies and ITopics
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 18:15, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Forever- is the new FPC

Can someone change it? Thanks

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

 Done
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:49, 29 March 2016 (UTC)

Writing standards

There isn't any particular incident and I haven't noticed any particular recent trends about this, but I figure that this should just be posted so that people know about this.

This is a professional encyclopedia for all things Scratch according to S:GUIDES. So, there are a few things I want to point out:

• Reference everything — show that you are trustworthy by citing sources for claims you make in articles, and I am now aggressively flagging uncited information
• Attribute quotes — if you're going to use something somebody else wrote, put it in quotes, attribute the quote to the writer, and link to the original source
• Be sure — if you aren't 100% sure about what you're writing, don't write it, bring it up on the talk page to ask others
• Use proper grammar — this shouldn't be a problem, but always write in complete sentences and use correct spelling and grammar
• These aren't forum posts — this means a few things...
  • Don't write in first person — the article should not be read as if you wrote it, it should be read as if it were written by many people
  • We document stuff — the articles primarily serve to document, not provide advice, and when documenting something, try to avoid including advice for the reader when documenting what something is
• Stay on topic — keep articles related to explaining what stuff is, and try to avoid talking about other topics

Thank you for reading this.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:23, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Finally! A summary! I read it because I was bored waiting for my wiki account (and hoping it would come) Plus it only took me one minute to FULLY read but to be honest, it needed a summary!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 01:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

adding tags

has anyone seen those wiki tags such as "this article has links out of the scratch website"? how do you add those tags?JonathanSchaffer 15:31, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Those "tags" are called templates. You can put a template on a page by putting its name in here:

{{NAME}}

The template that says "this article has links out of the Scratch website" is called Template:External Programs. The code to use it is:

{{External Programs}}

Which displays:

This article has links to websites or programs outside of Scratch and Wikipedia. Remember to stay safe while using the internet, as we cannot guarantee the safety of other websites.

There is a nice help page on this: Help:Templates
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:28, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday Article Selection.

I have a question about the Wiki Wednesday. According to my knowledge, the featured English articles, were chosen by the Scratch Team. How about the international ones?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 13:18, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

They actually aren't chosen by the ST, they're chosen by the individual wikis ;P For instance, a couple topics up, you'll see people suggesting articles for the WW, we talk about each one, then make a decision. I believe it's the same process on the International Wikis. :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

I see. But.. What's happening here: Wiki Wednesday ?
Really_A (talk | contribs) 13:53, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Whoa, that article is inaccurate :P I'll try to fix it when I get on a computer :)

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

The Meower Wikian Times

Unfortunately, The Wiki Times has come across some speed bumps in the month we have been in business on the Scratch Wiki. I am sad to say that we are retiring many of our members including Programmer1121, Amateurradiogeek15, and Hamish752. It is a tough decision to let these meowers go. The last Wiki Times issue will be released on April 1st and can be found here The Wiki Times is also changing its name to The Meower Wikian Times. Jvvg has been promoted to Head Meower with Makethebrainhappy as The Meower Reporter and Pianogirl84 also as The Meower Reporter. School gets in the way greatly so I am retiring and will not continue with The Meower Wikian Times. The Wiki Times will be destroyed and never thought of again. This is NOT an April Fools Joke 100% 100% guaranteed. If you have any questions or comments reply to this message!
*UPDATE: THIS WAS AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE! Except we will be retiring a couple people...which will be released soon!*
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 20:46, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

meow. I hope this is a joke

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Meow on! xD
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:20, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

I'd like to teach the world to meow! XD
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The last Wiki Times newspaper is now released and can be found []!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:54, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

The *current* Wiki Times newspaper can be found here.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:37, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

ARGHHHHHH I MEANT IS NOT ISN'T IN MY POST AND IT SOUNDED LIKE I MEANT I WAS HAPPY THAT IT WAS OVER

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

What's Happening?

This .... isn't working for me. http://cubeupload.com/im/oMHUar.png Anybody?
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 03:10, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Retiring the Scratch Wiki

After discussing this with the other EWs and admins, it is with a heavy heart that I inform all of you that on May 1, 2016, the Wiki will be permanently shut down. We have made this decision because the Scratch Team does not want us documenting the bugs in Scratch or explaining the features well enough that people may know how to take advantage of them. In the remaining month, if you wish to hold on to any article, you will need to print it, as we do not plan on maintaining an electronic version of the article.

Before retiring the Wiki, we do plan on holding a party for all contributors. If you live in the United States, the party will be located in Barrow, Alaska. See Google Maps if you need directions on how to get there.

This is jvvg, signing off permanently.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh man. That's a dog gone bummer. xD
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:52, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Wow, how disappointing xDDD
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

@AghaCool: It's not a dog gone bummer, it's a cat gone bummer. You don't want to offend the cat Scratch Team...

@jvvg: That is very sad. It's a good thing that I have bribed the Scratch Team to do something... something like close the Wiki down earlier. I mean who needs a Wiki when one could spend many hours looking for an answer through Google, all while generating power for the Scratch Team?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Well, at least I have more time to eat waffles now. Yum! Anyways, will there be waffles at the part for Wiki editors? And can I bring my pet Gobo? xD

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I see that everybody enjoyed the April Fools' joke. Just to be clear, we do not have any plans to shut down the Wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:27, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Yep. I enjoyed it! xD I'm glad there aren't any plans to shut down the Wiki!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:28, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

that was a mean joke
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 19:57, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Can Anybody Explain the Scratch Cat Page "hack"?

(I'm not talking about AF, ok). I was wondering if anyone can explain me on how Scimonster "hack" the Scratch Cat page to show the _meow_ icon with the correct size. If anybody know, please tell me, otherwise, it's okay. If you're wondering why I ask this, just so you know, I want to edit that article in the Scratch wiki in other language. But the _meow_ icon keep annoying me.
Really_A (talk | contribs) 13:37, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

To make the meow icon show as the same size, all you need to do is display the image.

If you want to resize the image, you can do that by doing this:

Original:

Code:

[[File:Scratch Cat.png|120px]]

Displays:

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:15, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Yep, I know, I see that. But the thing is.. Well, it's a little hard to explain, but, have you visit that page and see the codes? It's a bit.. confusing..
Really_A (talk | contribs) 14:06, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh... I just looked at the page again, and I noticed the "hacks" that were used.

Basically, Scimonster was making a table out of html code, so that he could have greater control over how the table displayed.

How much html&css do you know Really_A?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:32, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Whoops sorry for not replying earlier. html? heheh. Probably only like 0.01%. ;-;
Really_A (talk | contribs) 14:18, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Hola. Hello. Ni Hao. + Contest

The Scratch Wiki can now be accessed in all the languages in the world.

Me - It can?
Wiki Admin - Yes, of course!
Me - Cool! I'm going to try!
Wiki Admin - Just Kidding! April Fools!
Me - *facepalm*

Remember it is April Fools Day today!

Adding on to April Fools, I am creating almost an exact copy of what jvvg did for April Fools either last year or sometime long ago. It can be accessed here. It would be great if ya'll could make some articles such as http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User:AghaCool/AF/Sprites or http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User:AghaCool/AF/Paddle2See. Articles like those. Make them as funny as you'd like! I am also turning this into a contest! Whoever writes the best article(s) gets featured on the next Wiki Times Issue and something else as well. Go here to read the guidelines and to begin articles. I and *possibly* jvvg will be judging the articles on the following things.

• Creativity of the Article
• How funny the article is

and a couple others which we'll keep as a secret. This contest ends on Friday, April 8th. You have exactly a week to write articles. Good luck! May the odds be ever in your favor. If you have any questions please reply to this message!
Paddle2See (talk | contribs) - the evil dictator and the 3rd

thisandagain (talk | contribs) - a cat who used to live in the Project Ideas cave

AghaCool (talk | contribs) 15:26, 1 April 2016 (UTC) - Some unknown thing

How would I make a page for this? Sorry, I'm new here...
Tiger75 (talk | contribs) 18:23, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

You would just add on to the original link http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User:AghaCool/AF/[insert the title here] and then you would create it.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:45, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

This is not an April Fools joke. This is an actual contest!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:47, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

On your user space? So, it's s contest for an April Fools page. I'm going to do "evil kumquats", but like they really exist.
Tiger75 (talk | contribs) 15:05, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Yep! Go ahead.:)
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:13, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

This is a mess

Even though it's funny, the AF wiki is pretty messy.

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 16:44, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

So true... Is there any way to reorganize the AF wiki somehow so the layout looks better?
Tiger75 (talk | contribs) 18:18, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Agreed, things do look a bit sloppy.

We could try and make articles be written like an official Wiki article, but with some jokes interspaced.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:03, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

I just realized that it's now the 2nd of April in UTC time.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 00:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

The wiki changed back for me @ 8:00 last night, right as I was about to edit an AF article. :P They do look sloppy though.

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

And the wiki logo?

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 18:35, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

April Fools Wiki Archived?

 Done
Will the wiki be archived? Or will it be left to burn? --
Happyland440 (talk | contribs) 17:19, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

It will automatically be set back to normal on the 2nd of April (UTC time)
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

wahh
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 01:14, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

oh, guess what! the archives are here!!
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 01:45, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Ummm... ST is this a joke?

It's a 500! ST Whats happening? D:
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 21:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Indeed :/
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:10, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Things seem to be fixed by now.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:00, 2 April 2016 (UTC)

What's going on with Scratch?

The home page is working, but I can't log in and other pages come up with the server problems error message.

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Of course it's fixed RIGHT after I post this. Sorry about that.

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

I've had problems like this before. It can sometimes be an issue with your internet, or Scratch's internet. If you're at school, it might even be caused by your school's firewalls.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:20, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

It's doing it again, and I'm not at school. It's probably just my internet. :P

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Question

Just wondering, is $wgAllowUserJs enabled here?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:01, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

I thought the answer was no because I don't remember anyone using/enabling JS before. To be doubly sure, I tested my hypothesis by creating some JS for myself, and the JS did not seem to be working.

The answer is no.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:42, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, okay.

Second question: Can we get scmb1 to enable it?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:54, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

april fools!

the sds studios/curators are not going to come to an end! this year......
JonathanSchaffer (talk | contribs) 19:36, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

The Majority of the Icons aren't Showing...

Anyone else have this problem? or is it just me and my Chrome?
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 23:45, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

yep. i think it's amazon's problem but i know it'll fix itself soon :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:12, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

You just say that since I can see yours! XD
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:26, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The icon only shows up for users with custom signatures. Anyway, I have an important announcement to make regarding this:

I have attempted to diagnose the problem, and discovered that the API on the Scratch Website still works properly and does not appear to have changed in any way that would break the ScratchSig plugin. However, more importantly, I discovered that currently the Wiki software is unable to access any of the Scratch APIs for now. This means that until the issue is resolved, nobody will be able to request an account, and signatures will continue not working.

Without access to the server to perform further diagnosis of the problem and potentially solve it, there really isn't much more we can do for the moment. It's possible this is just due to changing software or something of that nature, in which case everything will be back hopefully shortly. However, it's also possible that something changed that actually needs a person to go in and fix, in which case a member of the Scratch Team will have to do that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:46, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I wonder if peopl will start making customs so that the Image would stay... Someone could design a sig that looks exactly like the normal one but its custom so you can see the picture.
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:57, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

The icons are not showing in Internet Explorer for me either.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 01:56, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I got this problem too. Good thing I have a custom signature...

♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 03:02, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

This problem is on the server and is going to happen for everybody, regardless of skin, browser, etc. Until this is fixed, the ScratchSigs won't work and the account request system also won't work. This doesn't seem to have fixed itself, so I am going to notify scmb1 in the hopes that she can do something about it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:25, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I think it's connected to the downtimes. As I said on jvvg's profile, I think we should ask TAG to explain.

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 16:36, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

It seems to be fixed now.. I can see all of your icons.

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Huh, for some reason the icons still work in vector. Good for me, because I always use vector.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:53, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

They appear to be back, which also means we can accept account requests again. Also, I switched to Vector for a bit to test, and the icons still didn't show when they were down.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:42, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Hmm, really? It seemed to work for me. Perhaps it was just because the system was up and working again by the time I checked.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 06:46, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Huh? Some don't appear and others do now.

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 11:01, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Have you tried using a hard refresh on the pages where icons don't show? See this article on hard refreshes.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:04, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander

I think SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander deserves its own article, does anyone else think that too?

I probably wasn't on Scratch in that time period so I don't know how great an impact it made.
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 11:10, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander started out having its own article, but we decided to merge it with Scratch in the Media because it was not very notable, outside of the fact that it was featured in several news articles.

I do not see any new reasons why we should change that decision.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 16:35, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

It's perfectly okay! You couldn't have known about the previous discussion. In fact, I found it nice that you asked.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:01, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Archive

Should I archive this?

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 17:45, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

Let's wait until the API issue is resolved first. Also, only admins should archive the CP since they have the power to protect pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:53, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't realize only admins should do that.

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 18:57, 5 April 2016 (UTC)

SquiggleStudios is FPC

^^ Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Finished!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:41, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Yay! They're back!

The wiki icons are back now

i know this isn't a question btw but i'm just saying
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 12:01, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

SquiggleStudios became FPC on April 5, not March 5.

Look on the Scratch News (Scratch Wiki)--
Malik44 (talk | contribs) 13:21, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs 

AF Contest [Expanded!]

The AF Contest will now end on Sunday!

I am creating almost an exact copy of what jvvg did for April Fools either last year or sometime long ago. It can be accessed here. It would be great if ya'll could make some articles such as http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User:AghaCool/AF/Sprites or http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/User:AghaCool/AF/Paddle2See. Articles like those. Make them as funny as you'd like! I am also turning this into a contest! Whoever writes the best article(s) gets featured on the next Wiki Times Issue and something else as well. Go here to read the guidelines and to begin articles. I will be judging the articles on the following things.

• Creativity of the Article
• How funny the article is

and a couple others which we'll keep as a secret. This contest ends on Sunday, April 10th. You have exactly a week to write articles. Good luck! May the odds be ever in your favor. If you have any questions please leave a message here!

On another note, the next Wiki Times Mini-Issue has come out! You can view it here. Please feel free to leave any thoughts you have!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 14:02, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

bot shortcuts

A bot shortcut was created - it's a shortcut but with the prefix B:
I find it interesting, but should we keep it, or not?
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:28, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I guess we could. It may help and there isn't anything bad about it.
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 01:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I made it, and it could help.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 03:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Article on Cartoon Network

Do you think the Scratch Wiki should continue to have an article on Cartoon Network? Scratch did a collaboration with them in the Hour of Code and now they are teaming up again with #Powerpuff Yourself. They are going to be teaming up with the Scratch Team in the future as well. I've heard that some people say that we shouldn't have an article on Cartoon Network, although I don't think it is bad to have an article on Cartoon Network. Please let me know your thoughts on this!
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 12:56, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

I think it deserves its own article, as it has might an impact on Scratch. Wasn't there a SDS or something about it, too? I don't remember. :P

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

I don't consider it notable because there wasn't even a single popular project about it. Also, it has no direct relationship with Scratch.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 15:43, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

It was part of the Hour of Code. Does that have an article?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:39, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

What's already here Hour_of_Code seems sufficient. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:41, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Hour of Code was reoccurring for it's third year when the article was created, and it was basically guaranteed to continue in later years.

I can see why Cartoon Network might deserve an article. It's partnered with Scratchers in a few collaborative efforts. So far, we've only seen one partnership completed, with one or more up coming. The completed "bears" collaborative effort made it to the front page and involved many Scratchers.

I think it would be nice to see how future collaborative efforts, even if one, go before we do make a separate article for Cartoon Network. That way we have a more accurate idea of how notable Cartoon Network will be for Scratch.

Edit for clarification: I do not oppose Cartoon Network being part of Scratch in the Media.

On that note, maybe we should split Scratch in the Media into two halves: Partnerships with Scratch, and Scratch in the Media.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:13, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Seem's like that already exists in my mind Scratch Press and Scratch in the Media
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:34, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

@Scottishdancer1 will be FPC tomorrow

^ Just letting you know ^u^

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

So Tuesday? Thank you for the heads up!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:01, 10 April 2016 (UTC)

Their shift starts on Monday, April 11th. Sorry for not making that clear.

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

I know it's Monday, April 11th. I was just joking a bit because admins don't always seem to add the FPC curator announcement until one day late.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 10:42, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. That does seem to happen a lot. :P

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

The CP Weekly Issue 1

BeetleBlocks Deletion

In January and February 2016, there was a large discussion about deleting the BeetleBlocks article. The main topic was here. Some quotes are:

“	I was actually thinking delete that page. I think very few Scratchers know about BeetleBlocks. I don't consider it notable at all.	”
– Mitopolis

“	That's the whole thing. Since not many Scratchers know about BeetleBlocks, we should tell them about it with that page.	”
– Hamish752

“	Things need to be notable to be on here. I might make the "Non-Notable Scratch Wiki" on my userpage. I would put BeetleBlocks there.	”
– Mitopolis

“	It's a programming language based off Scratch, which uses software developed by a former Scratch Team member. How is that not notable? We have pages for Scratch Extensions and also a page for Snap!, and this is very similar. I say we keep it.	”
– Hamish752

“	When someting is notable, most Scratchers know about it. Scratch Wiki:New Page Policies	”
– Mitopolis

“	This discussion about deleting the article BeetleBlocks, reminds me awkwardly to the horrible "deleting discussions" in the German Wikipedia: IMHO German Wikipedians spent more time with discussions, if or not articles should be deleted than writing new articles: I already had that years ago with the German Wikipedia-Articles I wrote about Scratch, BYOB and Snap! Nobody talks about if the article is useful knowledge for the reader, but only about if it fulfills the relevance-laws, that only about 250(!!!) German Wikipedia admins practice so strict (without asking the 100 Million readers!), that the number of authors decreased in the last years rapidly because most authors loose interst when their articles got deleted, after investing lots of time and efforts. I hate this "deleting knowledge'-thing of the German Wikipedia and I'm happy that the English Wikipedia is not like that. PLEASE don't start that thing here at the Scratch-Wiki!!! Instead of doing that, you could risk a look at this Video of Eric Rosenbaum, a former member of the Scratch Team, demonstrating BeetleBlocks at the Scratch2015AMS. Also have a look at S:CPND#Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki? where lots of things, that are worth writing an article about, are still waiting.	”
– MartinWollenweber

“	+1 let's use our energy to make and improve articles instead of discussing about their deletion.	”
– Frodewin

The discussions led to "keep it."

Sonic on April Fool's Pages

Recently, Sonic the Hedgehog-related content caused a major discussion, spreading to many talk pages. The main article was Kaj, where fish/Sonic was discussed. The discussion led to "keep Sonic, but do no allow large amounts to be added anymore."

Cartoon Network deletion

There have been two medium discussions about Cartoon Network and its importance. The first discussion led to "delete." The article was recreated, and its results are currently unknown.
Mitopolis (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:07, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

What the Silver the Hedgehog?

Really?!?!
♥PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 02:50, 18 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for tell me. I fixed it :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Just wondering

Is it OK that I uploaded a million new versions of File:Gobo1.png?
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 09:12, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Can I ask what this is for?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 11:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Wiki Wednesday - May

Yes, it's that time of year again! It's time that we pick an article for the next Wiki Wednesday. It's so nice to see how much we taught with the Remix article, so let's pick something nice for this WW as well. Any suggestions?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 11:26, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Maybe Snap or Platformers?
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 14:46, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I think Cloud Data would be a good selection.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 16:53, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I think Is it possible to change my username? would be great. I see this question (or suggestion) ALL the time!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

Might not be the best written, but I suggest this article Lego Robotics. I think it's something that scratchers may not be sure about, as it exists in the code. I think featuring the article would show scratchers that scratch exists not only on the computer, but in the physical world!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:21, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

@Amateurradiogeek: We considered that last month, but decided not to because it would be unfair to new Scratchers.

Maybe Variables Tutorial or Frequently Asked Questions?

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

fAQ would be a nice one! I suggested mine after seeing a comment one the subject!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 01:12, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Well, I don't think we need to worry about fairness so much as usefulness/answering FAQ's. But that's alright. There will be more months. I think my next choice would be the Variables Tutorial.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 01:55, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

FAQ sounds good.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:54, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I agree, FAQ sounds like a really nice article because it has so many questions and answers that Scratch might be wondering about. However, it is a big wall of text.

We can try putting it up for WW next month, but for this month, it looks like we will be using Variables Tutorial, unless someone else happens to know of a good tutorial for new and advanced Scratchers?

Edit: Since I like statistics... Over the course of May, Sounds got a total of 1,710 views. Meanwhile, during April, Sounds got 2124 views. At the same time, May's WW was 35 days long, while April's WW has been up for 26 days. Using this info, it looks like Sounds got 854 more views then normal over the past 26 days ( 2124 - 1710*(26/35) ).

Either way, it's really nice to know how many Scratchers we're helping out, each and every day. :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:34, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

How about blocks? It links to a lot of useful articles, and it's useful for new scratchers needing to know how to use a block, and advanced scratchers checking up on a block. It's also useful for people connecting to the real world!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

It looks like we already went with the tutorial. However, blocks looks like a good choice for another WW. Can you make sure to bring it up again so that we can discuss it?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:51, 29 April 2016 (UTC)

Scratch to Scratch Wiki Link

Hey Folks! I'm not sure if anyone else is having this problem, but for some reason the link from the Scratch Homepage to the wiki doesn't load for me. I'm not sure why. I just always use the Scratch Wiki URL. It's not a huge problem, but I'm seeing if anyone else has the same problem. Thanks!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:16, 19 April 2016 (UTC)

I do! Just noticed!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 21:36, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

I mean it may be a problem for people trying to use the wiki then.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:04, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Can confirm. It appears to be caused by the `https` instead of `http` at the beginning of the URL.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 18:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

It seems to be working for me... It wouldn't be a problem anyways, because I have the Wiki bookmarked

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Should be fixed now, apparently the SSL was not working properly on the Wiki, thus causing the https:// link to load forever.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 11:35, 27 April 2016 (UTC)

New FPC

There's a new FPC!
IgDegOo (talk | contribs) 14:20, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

Networking Issues

Unfortunately I am suffering from some networking issues and am unable to access the Scratch Wiki from my home network (I'm currently using a proxy to be able to access it). What this means for everybody else is that I won't be on as much and WikiMonitor will not be operating until the issue is resolved.

At the moment, I don't know what the problem is, and I have no idea when it will be resolved. This started yesterday and has continued into today, but I will start WM back up again once the issue is fixed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:04, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the notif. Hope you can chase Murphy out soon.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 00:08, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Shall I run it on my PC? My computer's on all the time and it is reliable (now)

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 16:02, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

I think he has a separate machine for the WM. So I don't think its' as simple as all that.
Amateurradiogeek15 (Talk | Contributions | Edits | Scratch account) 17:12, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

WM requires some specialized libraries to run (specifically the PHP5 CLI tools and cURL), and I would rather not let another user run it, as that would be more likely to cause problems than fix them when you consider what having duplicate copies of the bot would do.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:05, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Why don't you have Krett12 run it since he runs WM when you're on vacation.

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 07:36, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I only did that once, and it was problematic enough that I am not going to give control of WM to someone else again. I would rather have WM predictably not working than having it work sometimes but not others.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 12:27, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Can I run it on the test wiki? If so, how do I run it? Is someone else running WM there?

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 07:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

I really don't think it's a good idea to run WM on the Test Wiki, given how not everybody there speaks English and the fact that it is actually several different Wikis hosted in one place.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Ah. :/ Anywhere?

banana439monkey (My talk page | Contributions | Scratch) 16:52, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

New SDS!

There's a new "Make Music" SDS!
Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions

Beat me too it! When did you post this?
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 01:14, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Oops. I keep forgetting to do that, sorry. Uh... around 7:45 PM (in Scratch time)?

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions 13:01, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done

 St19_Galla   Talk • Contribs  15:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Shouldn't it be its, not it's?

Pianogirl84 ♬ Talk ♬ Contributions 16:09, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Yes, it should be "its" not "it's". Good catch!
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 14:35, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ KrIsMa got it
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:18, 26 April 2016 (UTC)