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Unfinished discussions

Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis ?

No Not done

At the DACH-Scratch-Wiki we are interested in a Mobile Device Skin & Responsive Design for Scratch-Wikis, but until now we did not find somebody who could integrate it. If you have a look at Scratch-Wikis on a mobile device, you'll see that's really difficult to read it and nearly impossible to edit. Also Search-Engines rank down Websites that don't use Responsible Design. It should not be to difficult to integrate Responsive Design, because you could take the Wikipedia Skin as a template Here is a Manual that could help:

Who of you is interested and who is able to manage it?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 08:37, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

I would love to help out, but that kind of stuff isn't my area sadly :(.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:42, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
I am interested in helping out. I have experience coding (Html, CSS, Java, Python, some JS), and depending on my schedule, I think I can help out. I should be able to tell for sure if I can help or not by or on Saturday.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:52, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: Great! It also would be good, to have an Admin of the English Scratch-Wiki helping with this...
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 09:08, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
This should be a collaborative effort :) I want to help out but I already scheduled a lot of other things, so I can't do it all myself. @ErnieParke: If you are going to work on it, can you put the code on GitHub so that I can maybe I can do tweaks to it and make a pull request? And I am sure there are also other interested Scratchers! @MartinWollenweber: Great idea!
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 12:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
sure, I'll put any work on github.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 10:41, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
Update: I don't think I have enough time or the expertise to make a mobile design. Sorry. Maybe jvvg could help here?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:42, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
Hope somone of the admins is able to help. I think this will get important, as the Scratch-Team is also working an a mobile-device-version of Scratch (preview was shown at de:Scratch2015AMS including iOS-device :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

New ST Member and "Official Studio"

jbuitrago0510 joined as a Scratch Team member. I left a comment on their profile asking when they joined, just to document it on the wiki because I thought that was something included in the Scratch Team article. I'll try to update the article ASAP, unless someone else gets to it first.

Rio Olympics 2016 is featured in the Scratch News today! It is managed by ScratchDesignStudio, but it's not an official SDS. Should it be documented? If so, where?

Do either of these events deserve to be put in the wiki news?

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 01:06, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think a new Scratch Team member needs a news entry, also because he's already been a member for a month. As for the Olympics studio, yes it is official. We've been talking about it in the private SDS forum. It's for the Hour of Code. I don't think it really matters too much, there have been many HOC studios, and there will be several more coming soon.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:12, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Should it be documented in the Hour of Code article then?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 01:17, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, other HOC studios aren't documented there so I think it should be fine. This one is for Brazil code week, but there are about 10 others coming soon for different countries. I don't really see the point of writing them all down. That's just my opinion though.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 01:46, 6 October 2015 (UTC)

Linking to Redirects?

I commonly see articles linking to redirect pages, the most common being years on the timeline instead of the timeline itself (linking to 2007 instead of Timeline#2007). Is this okay? Should they be changed whenever they are seen? They don't seem to necessarily be a problem, but it seems better organized to link to the intended page, instead of a page that redirects to that page.

The other day I went to all of the pages that were redirects and then what linked there. From there I changed all of the links to the actual page, that way the link wasn't a redirect (yep, that was the 20 edits by me in a row). I also make sure that any links I link to a page are linking to a real page, not a redirect.

Should I continue doing this, or does it not really matter? What are the general rules on the matter?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 00:28, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

It doesn't really matter. I know everyone will prefer you to make "actual edits" than to change redirects, which took a lot of time, but not as much benefit. At the moment, redirects are an unimportant issue I believe. If it consumes too much memory, someone would probably already made a bot to do it.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 01:56, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
So this wouldn't be considered an actual edit?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 20:50, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
It is an edit by definition, but it's not an edit that would add to the page.
The only two bad thing involving redirects are redirecting to a redirect (unnecessary), and having a redirect that goes nowhere.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:58, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

Featured Images

We have had the same for quite a while now, shouldn't they be updated? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:02, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:57, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

Question about contributors.

I spent quite a bit of my time making a Welcome template for me to put on new contributors' talk pages. Now, is there any way of getting a list of the most newest members on the Scratch Wiki. That would really help me. If you know the link please reply with it! Thank you!
Golden-scratch (talk | contribs) 08:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Just a friendly reminder to keep new discussions at the bottom :) Also, [1] :)
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 13:43, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Great, thanks, I will remember that.
Golden-scratch (talk | contribs) 14:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Scratch Foundation

Anybody know more about it? I need some help. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:34, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Check out the website.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 18:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I did but that does not give me enough information. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:36, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
What information about Scratch Foundation are you looking for? It would help to know.
Also, maybe this web page might help? Scratch Foundation LinkedIn Profile
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:16, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

Talk Pages

Should we make it that talk page edits should automatically be marked as minor? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

What benefits would come from that?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 19:18, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
It won't be super visible in the recent changes. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:22, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
So what do you think? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:33, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I do not think that we have the need for it currently.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 19:37, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok then. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:42, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

The Donate link in the footer does not link to anything. It does work on the Scratch site though. Does anyone have rights to fix it?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 20:10, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

You're right! That's so strange, must be an error in the code somewhere.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 20:24, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
From Inspect Element, it seems that instead of the correct <a href="url">Donate</a> code, the code here is <a hred="url">Donate</a>. :/ It has "a hred" instead of "a href".
Ev3commander (talk | contribs) 23:09, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I'll try contacting @Scmb1 to see if that can be fixed.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:11, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
Thanks everyone!
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 01:23, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Search Bar

The Search Bar page has a note at the top that the search bar was replaced with Google Custom Search Bar, but I can't seem to find an article or a section on the Google Search bar. Was it decided that it wasn't necessary to document it?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 20:21, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

I think so. The Search page stayed about the same during the switch, although there was a different search engine running the it. Maybe this will help you: link
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:45, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm trying to figure out if there is an article about the current search bar (which I presume is the Google Search bar). Sorry for the confusion.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 21:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

The Archives List

The Community Portal Archives list is arranged sort of weirdly. Is there a reason for the way it is arranged? I think the below arrangement looks a bit more appealing.

Archives (oldest first)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13
14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35
36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46
47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68
69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79
80 81

Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 21:13, 18 October 2015 (UTC)

It's current arrangement is 10 items per line.
Is the main reason why you like the second version because it more equal line lengths? The numbering looks odd...
On a side note, the German Wiki takes a different approach: link
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:27, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
The numbering is odd on the second version. Yes, I suppose I like it because of the more equal line lengths.
It is probably best to keep it the way it is, because of the numbering.
Thanks for the response!
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 21:30, 18 October 2015 (UTC)


Should there be a topic on the Scratch Forum where users can post things they would like to know about Scratch and wiki editors should go there and if there are good suggestions they will put info on the wiki about it? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 15:53, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Anyone agree? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:09, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
That's the Questions About Scratch forum.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 23:04, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Anything New?

Hi guys! You might have noticed (or maybe not) that I've not been active at all for the past several months... School is just being a bear. :(

So now that I've forgotten most things that I ever did learn about wiki formatting... Did I miss anything really awesome? I would like to become more active here again, but I never really was involved, and so just kinda forgot about it. :( Oh well. Such is IRL.

Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 16:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

It's still the same! :) --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 16:30, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Well, I guess that's a good thing! :P
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 22:06, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Any EW to Admin

In the past 3 days no admin or EW except for ErnieParke has done anything. Anyone else agree? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:02, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Need a new Admin. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
If it helps, EW User:KrIsMa has done some editing in the past few days. As for admin User:jvvg, I asked him what's happening, and he just happens to be very busy at the moment. He told me it's temporary.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:00, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I had a commitment this weekend that precluded being active here, but I'm still around periodically. Also, I still have been spot-checking edits and looking for any major disputes, so if anything serious happened, I would have been here to deal with it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:03, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
Ok, just the past 3 days ErnieParke was the only one. :) --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:05, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
If any EW should get additional admin, then I would vote for user:ErnieParke: He showed since years that he has the technical knowledge and the right attitude: An admin should help the community, not trying to rule the community. ErnieParke would be the right candidate for that. I - as an international Scratcher from Germany - specially appreciate his work for the international scratch-wiki-community. I also think User:KrIsMa would be a great choice. user:jvvg is a very good admin and should stay in duty if he still got enough time. I don't know your rules for admin-voting: Have you a restriction how many admins you could have at the same time?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 20:50, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

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JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 20:58, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

@MartinWollenweber: Besides what Jaycee said, the Wiki only adds new admins when there is a need. The goal is to keep the number of accounts in power to a minimum to avoid any potential problems.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:00, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

OK,I read to fast and because English is only my second language I misunderstood what the discussion was about: Now I see it's utterly not about suggesting new admins but to motivate the existing admins and EW's to look after the wiki more regularly...also I knew that all mentioned user were EW's or admins, but I didn't look up who is what...sorry for the waste of time ;-)

@Ernie: If you were not admin here I would vote for you ;-) BTW: You were not admin in the international wikis but I just changed that, so it was not complete waste of time ;-), see: de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs)

SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander

Is that not user-generated content? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:08, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Please keep all pertinent discussion on that article's talk page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:14, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

Ageren is FPC

Sadly, my shift is over :(
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 10:10, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Wow, more articles

Watch how it goes!

User:PrincessPandaLover/On the way to 1,000
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 20:39, 20 October 2015 (UTC)

Blocks Plugin is not working at international Scratch-Wikis: Who could help?

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The Blocks Plugin is not working at most international scratch-wikis. At de: and id: it works in general, but there are still some bugs (more than in the english wiki), but at the other wikis I think it doesn't even work.It could be that also in the forums the Blocks Plugin works better than here in the english wiki (e.g. there are menus for blocks), but I'm not sure about that.

Some people of the english wiki got edit and admin rights at the international wikis (see: de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch) and user:jvvg has even FTP-rights to all international scratch-wikis, so he could install anything that is nessesary, but he told me that he's is not a "Blogs Plugin Specialist" like some other here. I know that the original authors of the BlocksPlugin user:blob8108 (Special:Contributions/blob8108) and user:JSO ( Special:Contributions/JSO ) only come here from time to time. So who could help? Thank you very much in advance!

@user:Rumanti: What is the exact state of the Blocks Plugin at id:?


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:30, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

The Scratchblocks2 Plugin on the Scratch-Indo-Wiki is quite glitchy, especially with C blocks. Scripts with C blocks that work on the forums often doesn't work on the wiki- though it worked beautifully for mostly everything else. I will find a real comparable example some time later :) As for the Indonesian version of Scratchblocks2- yes, this was solved from exchanging emails- the finished product is a repository fork - https://github.com/Rumanti/Indonesian-mw-Scratchblocks2
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:53, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
FWIW the version of scratchblocks on this wiki is much older than the one on the forums. We need scmb1 to update it! :)
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 00:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
At the international wikis we can update and test it without help (e.g. of user:scmb1), e.g. user:jvvg has FTP-access there, see de:Scratch-Wiki:Watch. We also need a version that does all language in one scratch-wiki for our "Scratch-Wiki-Incubator" http://test.scratch-wiki.info
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:20, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

InterWiki Bot

It's group needs to be changed to bot. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 20:06, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

I know, however Scmb1 (a sysop) has not done that yet.
Also, sorry to the English wikians about any clutter in the RC.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:22, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
I finished running InterwikiBot, so the RC is done being cluttered. :)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:36, 21 October 2015 (UTC)

New Page

Should there be an article about the skins? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 19:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I would hold off on doing that for a bit :)
 St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  21:51, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
@JayceeMinecraft - It seems important enough to have a page. You could make on if you like.
@st19_galla - Why??? Is there some kind-of super secret update which will change the 2.0 skin drastically?

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:15, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
What would you document about the skin?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: I would document the history(1.4) the creators an image and how it works. However I will create
a test page in my sandbox. Reply to me if you like it. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:22, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

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JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:47, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Just so you know, I suggested holding off for a bit because I knew there would be a new skin released today :) I think it would be a nice addition to the wiki!
 St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  19:59, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I will add a section about that update once I see it. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 20:01, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
@Hamish752 Yes there will be an update. LOLβ€Ž --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 20:02, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Aha just a bit late
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:28, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
I just fixed it! :) So anybody think that it should become a page? :) (feel free to edit it). --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

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JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:17, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody????? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:51, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

New form of blocking in the Scratch website?

Heyyo I'm banned from Scratch! In a completely new way... I think!

Computers at my school can't edit the community portions of the site. I can still view it, log in, play projects, etc. - but not share projects, post comments and forum posts, and edit project metadata. I can log in from the SAME scratch account at home and use Scratch as normal. Interesting stuff.

Here's the dialog box that shows up when I try to do community things -> http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/File:Network_wide_ban.png

Has this been documented here before?

scratchisthebest (talk | contribs) 14:44, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

You listened to WHB's suggestion.. Great! xD Anyway, for your question- nope.
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 15:00, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it's your average IP ban, unless I'm missing something :P
 St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  18:29, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
This once happened to me. I was once somewhere that only allowed a few sites, so I had to use a proxy, and apparently that proxy had been used by some other people to abuse the website and had that same error. I'll add it to the ban article.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:42, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Hope you all are Having a Good Time

It's been like wow, how long? Gee, a long time. Anyway, my focus these days has been on computer hardware, as I will be specializing in computer engineering. I'm just seeing how things are going on here, and just to say hi, and that I hope you all have a good upcoming Halloween.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 00:01, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

Hi! Thanks, you too!
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:24, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Aw, welcome back!
File:BEST GIF EVER (compressed).gif
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 00:50, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Helloooooooo! :D

scratchisthebest (talk | contribs) 14:30, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Hey :D!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:49, 24 October 2015 (UTC)
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 23:40, 24 October 2015 (UTC)

A nice screenshot

Template:Not Done http://opensprites.org/users/14/c90f6618ed98fc8ed0443718f3df6b04/#_ (Click on the image to view on full size) Has this been documented before? Should this be documented?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 00:52, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I don't think so. A page on it sounds nice.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:27, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
OK! Anyone want to do this? Also, I think someone should crop Scratchy and put it in the gallery at the Scratch Cat article :) (I have more prioritized things right now..)
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 15:58, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

WikiEditor Extension

No Not done

Can you install it? It is on the test wiki. It is a good tool. It enhances the editing toolbar. It comes with mediawiki. Just put require_once "$IP/extensions/WikiEditor/WikiEditor.php"; --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:26, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody agree? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:48, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
What does the extension do?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 00:31, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
It enhances the editing toolbar a LOT. --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 09:49, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
I agree because comes with Mediawiki an only must be activated to have some help with formating wiki-syntax in the editor. You could activate it to see the difference and deactivate later it if you don't like it.
@JayceeMinecraft: Just post a screenshot, also a link helps more to explain https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:WikiEditor. I still not understod completely why it's already in the Mediawiki-Distribution when it is a PlugIn

MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
So will an admin install it please? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 16:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ Unfortunately, admins do not actually have access to the code running the Wiki. However, we can ask a member of the Scratch Team to install it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:48, 27 October 2015 (UTC)

@jvvg I tried scmb1. No response. Jvvg, since you are well known could you try asking somebody please? --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 17:08, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
scmb1 is very busy - i emailed her and she still hasn't gotten back to me. this is about the 2nd week
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:22, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, if you look at her profile, you'll see that I voiced my support to your comment. However, she is a college student (or at least was last year, I don't know what year she is), and is very busy and may take a while to get back to us. For now, we just have to wait.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 00:57, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Upgrade to Scratch Website

PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 18:25, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

I know. But the server is down. :( --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:30, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Back up! :) --
JayceeMinecraft (talk | contribs) 18:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Should we start updating images, or upload new images for historical purposes?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 00:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
The only purpose I see that would fit under historical purposes is a history section on Scratch Website where we can show how the skin change. Updating images sounds like the path to go.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 12:50, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
(to all) Would it be necessary to update the Wiki skin (duh) ? How about the favicon (simpler) ?
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 15:46, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
It sounds best if we wait until the changes are 100% done, and then ask Scmb1 about it.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:28, 28 October 2015 (UTC)


It's bubble103!
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 22:36, 26 October 2015 (UTC)

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:23, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 21:42, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody interested to write an article about GP (Programming language)?

No Not done - see: #Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Anybody interested to write an article about Beetle_Blocks?

Yes Done - see: #Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?


MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:39, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

Thanks to user:JayceeMinecraft the article BeetleBlocks has started (but is not finished now!)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:28, 21 November 2015 (UTC)


Should there be templates for dead end pages and orphaned pages?
JayceeMinecraftlogo.png JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions

I don't think we really need those. We already have the special pages to list them. Unlike stubs and incomplete articles, these are pretty easy to fix yourself, and they're a lot less important in terms of keeping the Wiki properly organized.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:30, 31 October 2015 (UTC)

Hit-Counter removed since Media-Wiki 1.25, technological request to the en-Admins

No Not done

Many "Hit-Counter dependent things" are removed from Mediawiki-Software since Version 1.25

In de: we miss this feature since upgrading (nearly one year)


Who can help?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:51, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

Suggestions for WikiMonitor

It's been a while since I've made any significant changes to WikiMonitor, so I was wondering if anybody had any comments or suggestions on how to improve it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:32, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure any changes are really necessary. It seems to work nicely, and effectively. Though I do have one suggestion. I often see new editors replying to WikiMonitor, apologizing for whatever they got a message for and saying they will fix it immediately. Though I am not against this, I think there should be a note that says something along the lines of "This is a bot that does not see any replies you make to this message. There is no need to reply to this message," or something similar. I think it would leave out some clutter in the Recent Changes (though it wouldn't be much). It could also serve as a sort of a way to clarify the purpose of the message as well.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 01:38, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I support that. :) But I'd probably still reply anyway, because it looks better on my talk page. :P Yah. Just my thing. xD
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 13:26, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Some reflections about the Wiki

I started writing some reflections about being a Wiki admin and contributor. See User:Jvvg/Reflections if you want to read them.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:59, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

I noticed that, and it's amazing. It's the truth about the community, which is like a smaller version of the Scratch community altogether. It's just unspeakable. Of course, the bad things do exist, and I can imagine how these account requests are made in maybe a minute or two. I get that it's like spam, but I think that if we accepted these accounts, the wiki would be not so calm and peaceful.
That's just my thoughts about the wiki. It's been amazing since I've gotten here!
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 02:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
+1 :)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 11:31, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
That special kind of Account request could be an important reason for that good cooperation here. Actually I see at the test-scratch-wiki how important the Account_Requests-Test is. A shocking high percentage of people would react to "Can you read, then answer with the word green!" with the answer "yes!". ;-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:52, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
My favorite bit is at the very start.
β€œ I think it's really awesome that we can have a persistent community of editors that for the most part understand each other and are able to work together without even knowing each others' names. ”

– jvvg

I think it's really cool how we can work so well together as a community, and have such high quality articles, when, as you pointed out, we don't even know each others' names. After all, for all I know, jvvg could be Donald Trump (haha). For as long as I've been an editor, there have been so little disputes, which is what I think is so great about this Wiki. We all have a lot of respect for each other and that's what allows us to work productively, and peacefully. As for the account requests, well I'm assuming they must be really annoying at times, but without them, the Wiki wouldn't be much, would it? This is why we have such little disputes, and such high quality writing. We have a great little community here, keep up the good work everyone!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 12:24, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

Very positive!
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 22:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
@mtwoll: Ironically enough, we actually do have a thing like that, and very few people read the page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:34, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
0_0 I would never have wanted my application to go there if I had been denied....
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

scratch interviews

Thanks scmb1 for letting us do the Scratch interviews! The Scratch Interview idea has been approved! Scratch_Wiki:Interview
Here's my proposal: Some wiki members are chosen to be interviewers. We will have a stickied topic. We will tell everyone to answer some questions. The questions include:

Note Note: Please edit/add to the questions below!

If we want more information from a user, we will ask them on their profile comments. If you talk to someone through a profile comment, you have to sign up to be their interviewer! There will be a wiki page on someone's userspace for that!

We will pick interviewers who have some experience on Scratch and are active, maybe greater than 1 year on Scratch?

Who wants to participate in being an interviewer? :)
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 06:10, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Raises hand. I am 3+ years on Scratch and 1.5 years on the Wiki I think? I forgot :P
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 02:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I will have been on Scratch for a year as of next week, which makes me younger than the suggested 1.5 years. If you are okay with a one year old Scratcher interviewing, I'd be willing to. I also added to the questions above.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 03:30, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
1.5 years? That seems like overkill. I've been here on Scratch around 9.5 months, no where close, but I'm experienced. Hmm...
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 04:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks all! I changed the "recommended" experience level!
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 06:12, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
Ah, my account is reasonably new compared to the recommended experience level, but I'd love to help as an interviewer if possible!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 07:30, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
EDIT2: Ok, I'm willing to be an interviewer again.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 11:46, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
In that case, I'd be willing to interview. What can I do to help out with that?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 14:52, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
I would interview, but real life is more important at the moment.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 21:03, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ Thanks for the support guys! We will choose a few interviewers after I finish the sticky topic, and then if we need more interviewers I will notify you guys! Thanks for your participation!
Also, i'll send you all what to do :)
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:39, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

EDIT: Nevermind, thanks :D
 St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  11:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
We're only going to do this for the wiki, and keep in mind that words can't describe anything better than images and a project, so I strongly do not think that this will ruin your project's idea or anything you've done :) Also, don't worry, your secret is safe! They still don't know you made a project for them! Other than that, i'm pretty sure they will be flattered when they see your project. Don't give up! I strongly think your secret will still be one, because we haven't started collecting our information for the interviews yet. They don't know what to expect!
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:19, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to, I've been on for near 1.5 years. But I'm not able to...
04:24, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing that up! You can delete this segment (where I commented and you replied) now so you can keep it clear for the interviewers :) Thanks! I would also be willing to help out with yours as well ^.^
 St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  11:37, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I'd also like to help if that would be ok :). I've been on scratch for 2 years, 3 months now.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:31, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
The sticky has been made! I've put some interesting posts (ones where I think I can get more
information from them) on the forum here!
Interviewers' now is your chance to pick a post, sign your name near the link on that page and interview them on their profile page! Then, at the end of the sticky forum, we'll read through the interviews on the forum and on profiles and grab out some information for the article! :)
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:38, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ Awesome, it is finally out! I have a few questions though- do we pick questions on our own that will contribute to the main questions? e.g. "does Scratch changes your opinion about programming" etc? Thanks! (and can we interview ourselves? :P)
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 03:53, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Hehe thanks for your interest! Yes, please ask questions that relate to their responses (maybe to clarify something they said?) The goal of interviewing people further is that we can add more interesting ideas to our article :) Yes, you can interview yourself :)
Anamation2.gif KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:18, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
Was I considered an interviewer?
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 15:17, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Front Page Issue

The contents box is a little lower due to a line break. Any EW or admin could fix?

23:13, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

Fixed. I'm still not sure what caused the change.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:09, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't either. Strange.
04:20, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

How to make a custom signature?

Just curious, I've seen a few people with custom Wiki sigs (such as text colors). How do you make one of these? Do you have to edit some special profile page?
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 17:01, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

1. Create a page called "User:Tymewalk/Sig" and add what you want the signature to be.
2. Go to your account preferences and in the signature section, add "{{User:Tymewalk/Sig}}".
3. Be sure to check "Treat signature as wikitext (without an automatic link)" or it will not work!
4. Save your preferences. Your custom signature should be off to work now!
Note Caution: Be sure to check the custom signature guidelines! They have important rules!
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 22:13, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

Sig Help

If you look at my signature, my profile picture is a couple pictures higher than the rest of my sig. I can't seem to find why. Any help? :D

Screen Shot 2015-08-01 at 7.17.22 PM Cropped.png St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  18:45, 7 November 2015 (UTC)

Can you share the HTML please? EDIT: Whoops, never mind. Just noticed you can see the HTML of your sig in your posts.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 03:27, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Often with things like this, you should try playing around with the margin and padding. I don't have the time right now, but I'm sure you can figure it out on your own.
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 03:32, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm going to test somethings in my sandbox for you and see if I can get it to work. :D
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 19:10, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm not sure why it's not working. Have you asked KrIsMa?
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 19:19, 11 November 2015 (UTC)


I'm the FPC until November 16th!

ItchyCatIII (talk | contribs) 21:56, 9 November 2015 (UTC)

Nice job! I hope you select some good projects. (Yes, I updated the news)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I really need help here

The ongoing saga of having reliable tests to see if people read S:CONTRIB continues. I have tried using the requirement that users state that they read the page, I have tried using hidden words, and I have tried changing the words around. Here are two requests I received today:

β€œ I would like to become a contributor because new Scratchers sometimes don't know what they are doing and sometimes some articles don't have enough information and I want to provide that extra information.

My experience with Wikis is the following: -My brother is on a wiki: [link removed] -I look on a lot of Wikis for information. Examples: [lists 3 wikis, removed]

I have read the "Become a Contributor" Wiki page and I have proof: ruler

β€œ I think that Scratch is a great place to make games and code because it so fun and simple. But sometimes when I don't understand something I find it easier and more helpful to look it up on the Wiki rather then post on discuss or junk up someone's projects by posting comments. I think it was a great idea and that is cool that it was made by scratchers. However, sometimes I can not find certain articles that I would've found helpful. I feel that if I ever find something I should create an article on, I would not hesitate to do so and do it professionally, with correct facts and correct grammar.I have read several books about Scratch including "Learning to Program with Scratch" by Majed Maji so I believe that I know Scratch very well and would be able to help Scratchers with helpful articles. I have read and re-read the editing guidelines and the instructions for joining the Wiki. It said to mention that and to include the word "ruler". I believe that I would contribute to the Wiki and be a good editor/curator. Please consider me. ”

n.b. The stuff in italics was added/removed by me to protect the user's privacy (it does say on Special:RequestAccount that we are allowed to post their request notes anywhere for any reason).

Both of these requests clearly found the trap, but neither one follows the instructions written in the same section of the page ("What we are looking for in your request notes is a specific explanation...(i.e. a specific article) you would help with.") This shows that users think that once they find the trap that they think is preventing them from getting on, they write a request that disregards the most important part of the page (which is, once again, in the sentence before the trap). I have tried pretty much every idea I could come up with, and none of them seem to have had any effect. I always get 1 or 2 requests out of 10 that meets the requirements, and a bunch of people who are trying to skimp the page, and always the few that disregard it entirely.

My next idea is to integrate puzzles into that page. In addition to naming specific examples, the user would have to answer a question that can be answered with Wiki knowledge. Here are a few ideas:

  • Name a page protected at the "EWPlus" level (credit to KrIsMa for this question)
  • Name the fifth Front Page Curator
  • What happened on May 19, 2015?
  • Who was curator October 19-25?
  • List at least three privileges that bureaucrats have that administrators don't
  • When were the EW/admin elections last held?

If you all like this idea or have any suggestions for more puzzles, please tell me. If anyone has doubts/criticisms, please voice those too.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:37, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

So like a scavenger hunt sort of thing? Again though, people will make exceptions. I think that people will find the answer to these, but then won't find examples of other things they'd change.
There's really no exact formula to get people to follow the rules. I think it's good that account requests aren't accepted too often, think what this would be like if all scratch accounts gave a wiki account, ugh.
People just need to know that they need to hunt around the wiki and find stuff on their own.
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 02:56, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I don't think there's much point in making it so more people will follow the requirements, and not just find the hidden word. After all, there's no need to make it easier for them to get it in. If they don't read the page, then clearly they won't uphold the quality of writing here on the Wiki.
By the way, I think the 4th questions should be changed to "Who was curator October 12-19? :P.

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 06:00, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
People will find ways around everything. I like the idea of tests, but perhaps have some short questions to make sure they've actually READ the text and aren't just typing "ruler", etc.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 21:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
Hmmm.... I don't really know...
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 02:18, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ I just got another one:

β€œ I would like to become a Wiki editor because i want to provide scripting help. By getting an account, I will post articles about how to make scripts and help my peers with scripting. I have been on Scratch for more than two years, so I am very experienced with the Scratch guidelines and community. (Ruler) ”

That request uses a lowercase "I" and also does not list any specific examples. The test I currently use is if the user names any specific articles, and am still rejecting any requests that don't. I guess this is the best I can do for now.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:34, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Maybe you should make them type this out: "I understand I need to list specific pages I would edit in my wiki application." :P Also, maybe have the 4th question as "Who was curator October 12-19, 2015?"
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 03:24, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
I personally don't think it really matters. We have a great group of people right now; we are a managing and keeping up-to-date, etc. I'm having a tough time finding stuff to do on the wiki as it is :P I think that we shouldn't be worrying about finding more ways to trap people into reading and following the directions. If they don't read it and follow directions, then their account gets rejected. If they do, then we have one more smart and knowledgable editor. :)

Screen Shot 2015-08-01 at 7.17.22 PM Cropped.png St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  04:45, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
To be honest, I do not think (extra) puzzles would solve this- there would be always people who tried to read as fast as possible, skimming only the parts that they think matters. My suggestion would be to keep the "secret magic word" and "I read S:CONTRIB" ideas- and add a specific note that specifically states that a request would be automatically rejected if one does not provides specific examples- similar to the S:CONTRIB trap, but slightly more difficult to get around with. Would this solve the "once they find the trap they win" problem? Hope this helps (:)
Rumanti (talk | contribs) 14:22, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 19:14, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Am I allowed to advertise on my userpage?

I know that you can't advertise your projects on Wiki pages (and you can only have a Scratch account link in your sig), but does that apply to userpages? Or to be more specific, can I advertise my projects on my userpage?
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 15:21, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I believe so. You can do anything you want on your userpage (you know, Community Guidelines still apply of course)
Rollercoasterfan (talk | contribs) 15:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
You can do whatever you like in your userspace, as long as it doesn't go against the CGs.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 22:25, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?

No Not done

I was a little bit astonished seeing no reaction to


Both GP (Programming Language) (de:GP (Programmiersprache)) and BeetleBlocks (de:Beetle Blocks] are great new scratch-based awaysome Programming Environments, created by the scratch-wide known inventors Eric Rosenbaum (MaKey MaKey) and John Maloney (main developer of Scratch for 10 years) & Jens MΓΆnig (creator of BYOB & Snap!). Both innovations were presented at de:Scratch2015AMS. Because we are not as fluid in the English language we wrote German articles at the DACH-Scratch-Wiki about it. Furthermore there are more very interesting articles in the DACH Scratch Wiki that have no corresponding article in the English Scratch Wiki and additional there are innovations like TurtleStich and Tickle that have no article in any Scratch Wiki. (see Conference Program (english!!!)) and Conference Videos (English!!!) of de:Scratch2015AMS.

I thought it would be enough to shortly mention that. I thought many curious English scratch-wiki-authors would have a look the German articles, see that there is much English information linked to it, like Videos and other Webpages, have a look at the picture and google-translate the German text to get an impression and then start to create English articles about it here.

I also think that the innovations presented at the Scratch-Conferences and the Conferences them self are much underrepresented here at the English Scratch Wiki. I saw threads at this CP about "I wish I was at the wiki some years before when there where much more new articles left to be created" or threads about creating more icons for talk pages of the Wiki or other wiki-community-related things...I wonder how that fits to that utterly lack of curiosity about awesome innovations happening in the "World of Scratch" (excuse me for that provocative style...I hope that helps to get more reaction, so it's meant really positive  ;-)

...Perhaps now I gave enough information to wake up the curiosity of some people? I am really looking forward what will happen :)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

I will work on an article about beetle blocks now. :)
JayceeMinecraftlogo.png JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions
Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
What's about The Scratch Song, GP (Programming Language), TurtleStich, Tickle and other innovations mentioned at de:Scratch2015AMS? Who want's to write English articles about it? Also BeetleBlocks seems to be not fished...

@Flame2957 chosen as FPC

@Flame2957 has started as FPC.
ItchyCatIII (talk | contribs) 01:07, 17 November 2015 (UTC)


Alice in Wonderland 150th Anniversary

Screen Shot 2015-08-01 at 7.17.22 PM Cropped.png St19_Galla   Talk β€’ Contribs  18:35, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Where can I find templates for userpages?

I see a lot of people have userpages with things like "Credit to _____ for the template". Where can I find these templates?
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 15:33, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

To find these templates, you'll need to go to the user page in question, view the code, and then copy it. It's as simple as that.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:24, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Favicon Update?

The Favicon (the small picture before the page title) is still the old one, before the update. It needs to be set to the new favicon on the updated website :).

To see the differences, go to: scratch.mit.edu, look at the favicon go to: wiki.scratch.mit.edu, then look at the favicon.


Golden-scratch (talk | contribs) 16:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

We have discussed this before and decided that updating the whole skin all at once would be best, but we didn't want to do that until the Scratch site had been fully updated.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 22:27, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Reviving the 1,000 page counter :D

User:PrincessPandaLover/On the way to 1,000 Credit to: PrincessPandaLover and credit to: 81st Archive. :D -Edit On!
Golden-scratch (talk | contribs) 16:35, 28 November 2015 (UTC)


@Ykim1 is the current FPC. Can anybody update the news? Thanks!

ItchyCatIII (talk | contribs) 22:06, 1 December 2015 (UTC)

I was just about to post it!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:21, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
I just updated it. I'm sorry I haven't been able to be more active lately, but my life is ridiculously busy right now, between school, college applications, other programming projects, and running.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:40, 2 December 2015 (UTC)

How do I find stubs?

On Wikipedia, pages with minimal to no information about a topic are called 'stubs'. I'd like to improve some of these types of pages on the Scratch Wiki. However, I can't find a category for them. Is there any way I can search for these pages?
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 14:54, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Here is the category. More pages that may need work can be found at S:TODO.

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 21:27, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
Category:Article Stubs is the category (@Hamish752: you need to put a colon before it, otherwise it tries to categorize the CP as a stub)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:50, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Thanks!

Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 05:56, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Update on me

Hello, and sorry that I've been so inactive lately. I've still been reviewing account requests, but I haven't actually been patrolling edits like I normally do.

I have a lot going on in my life right now (between school, cross-country, college applications, and my other programming projects), and that lately hasn't left me much time to be on the Wiki. However, like everything, this too shall pass, and pretty soon I'll finally be done with all the stuff I have to do for school (they really pile the work on at the end of the semester). Once I finish all of my exams (they are all next week), I'll be able to resume being an active contributor and admin on the Wiki.

Also, next week, I find out if I will get into MIT! (fingers crossed)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:42, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the update! It's great to hear that you're still around. I wish you the best in getting into MIT!
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 12:15, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
@jvvg: Good luck for your application at MIT! It would be great to have such an active SW-Admin near to the Scratch-Team.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 15:49, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
Decisions for MIT come out on Wednesday (at 6:28 PM ET), so here's hoping I get in. If I do, you all will probably be the first to know (besides me, of course).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:45, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

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Maybe I will get in come March.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:49, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Aw :\ You should totally tell mres that you're applying... - LiFaytheGoblin Avatar.png LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 20:34, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
In other news, my exams are over, so I'm able to be around here more!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:23, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Aw... Hopefully you get accepted in March!
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 15:43, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
If you do get into MIT, will you still be able to be active here? Something tells me that you'll be incredibly busy.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 18:36, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

How do I fix a misnamed image?

Recently the image File:Message_Page.PNG was uploaded, as it was intended to replace File:Messages_Page.PNG. However, the file is misnamed. I tried moving it, but the file at that name already exists. I can't delete it, as I don't have the privileges for that, and I don't know how to flag it so someone with them can.

How should I go about fixing this?
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 15:27, 10 December 2015 (UTC)

You can just go to File:Messages Page.PNG and upload a new version containing your image.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:20, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
I tried, but it said it was a duplicate.
Tymewalk (talk | contribs) 16:21, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
It said that when you clicked "Upload a new version of this file" under "File history"? Do you want me to delete the original file that you uploaded so that it won't be marked as a duplicate?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:05, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy holidays to everybody!

I hope you're all having a good winter!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:12, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

*researches how to do complex art*
PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 18:15, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Happy holidays to you too!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 22:00, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
Happy Holidays :D!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 02:06, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
I hope mine is better than last year.
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 14:36, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
It's getting colder where I live!
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 23:31, 21 December 2015 (UTC)


Don't tell anyone, but we have a new curator.

...Do we really need to announce curators on the front page of the Wiki? I find it kind of unnecessary and time-consuming. It shouldn't be obligatory to list them...
TheHockeyist (talk | contribs) 15:07, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

PPL Icon.gif β™₯PrincessPandaLover Talk | Contributions | Scratch Account 01:51, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
I don't think it is...but from a personal standpoint, I like it, since otherwise I usually don't know who's curator.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 02:20, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Update on account requests

We're actually getting some decent account requests now! I'm now only rejecting about 25% of them immediately. Here are some examples of the ones I've been getting lately:

β€œ I think I can help make new pages on topics that everyone wants. For example, I think a page on space velocity would be helpful. I can also help update certain pages, like the Small Stage layout (I can make it more understandable and detailed) and the Animated GIF page (more ways to use them). ”
β€œ I would like to be a contributor because then I could help improve the scratch wiki, like writing Define ex. to the scratchers, or contribute to the shooting projectiles page.

I have read the "Becoming a contributor page" and read all of the rules.

β€œ I would like to become a contributor to the Scratch wiki, as it seems to be the most effective way of sharing my knowledge of the programming language to others (whether that be newcomers, or more experienced users). If I were to have my own wiki account, I would read articles that I thoroughly understand to make sure they make sense and have no spelling/grammar mistakes, nor misinformation.

If I were a wiki editor, I would take an article like this (http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Variable):

"Variables are used whenever a value must be stored β€” i.e., if a project required the user to input a name and then remember that name, the name would be stored in a variable. With this, the name can be retrieved at any time; all the project has to do is check the value (which is the name).

The look of the variable can be changed in to three forms: The normal readout, the large readout, and the slider. The form of the variable can be changed by double-clicking or right-clicking it and selecting the option that is wanted, or clicking it using the grow/shrink sprite tool.

It can be chosen whether to hide or show a variable on the stage by clicking the tick box in the variable panel or by right-clicking it and selecting "hide".

If the view is set to slider, right clicking on the watcher will give another option: set slider min and max. Choosing it will let the user define the range of the variable."

And edit it with the following changes:

"Variables are used whenever a value must be stored β€” i.e., if a project required the user to input a name, the project may remember that name by storing it in a variable. With this, the name can be retrieved or modified at any time within the project.

The look of the variable can be changed in to three forms: The normal readout, the large readout, and the slider. The form of the variable can be changed by double-clicking or right-clicking and selecting the option that is wanted, or clicking it using the grow/shrink sprite tool.

It can be chosen whether to hide or show a variable on the stage by clicking the check box in the variable panel or by right-clicking it and selecting "hide".

If the view is set to slider, right-clicking on the variable will give another option: set slider min and max. Choosing it will let the user define the range at which the slider may be set to by the user."



This is more the stuff I'm looking for. They're not all perfect, but they do reflect people actually following the instructions that are set out in S:CONTRIB. As far as I can tell, there haven't been any significant changes made to trigger this, but the quality has definitely improved dramatically.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:15, 25 December 2015 (UTC)

I know I have been making an effort when people talk to me about the Wiki, to tell them (if they are new-ish) to wait a bit and learn some more about the main site. If they've been around for awhile, I tell them simply to do their homework, read and re-read the instructions, and spend some time on the application. I don't give out information about what's being looked for, or how the applications are processed, but I do give out that it's not a 5 minute job. ;) I doubt that's the reason for the better applications, but I am trying.
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 23:44, 25 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for doing that, I really do appreciate it. I have actually learned some new stuff about Scratch myself by reading the (good) requests, and I really do enjoy seeing what people say they can contribute.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:46, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
No problem! I frequently get responses generally like. "Oh...Hmm. I'll wait until after Christmas then." ;) So I think it's working!
Amateurradiogeek15 (talk | contribs) 02:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

Fix the racing game tutorial

I found multiple mistakes in the How to Make a Two-Player Racing Game tutorial. Also, the tutorial is very limited and the movements of the cars need fixing (the movements demonstrated in the tutorial would be very choppy). Either I can fix that article or make a new one on how to make a racing game.
Flame2957 (talk | contribs) 15:44, 27 December 2015 (UTC)

rapunzel_ is curator

@rapunzel_ is the new curator!!!
Programmer1121 (talk | contribs) 00:06, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Yes Updated
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

This is the best Wiki account request ever

I know I mostly just post bad account requests on Tumblr and only use the CP when I'm trying to make a point about how we need to get people to read S:CONTRIB, but this one is hilarious:

β€œ i wanna become a cutrator cuz the wikkkki is rubissh and i wana make it better and yuo have t o maek me one pleaes cuz its all thays left in mr for scrtach so yhes o kind og hav e tp im rubbish at typin g by thr way ”

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh wow. lol.:P What did you say back?
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 30 December 2015 (UTC)
I said something along the lines of "Thanks, but that really doesn't explain how you would help" (I intended it as sarcastically as possible, but it looks like the comment has already been deleted).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:51, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Oh.:P By the way did you see my comment up above?
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:40, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Time for an archive?

Is it time for an archive? The CP is getting pretty filled up with outdated conversations.
Purplebook163's Profile Picture.gifpurplebook163 | Talk | Contribs | Edits πŸ“– πŸ“• πŸ”– 22:58, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it is time. I'll get on that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:01, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
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