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New Wiki

I'm going to start a nigerian wiki, but I don't have a host, or does scratch.mit.edu host it?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 14:21, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

What's the point of a Nigerian wiki?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 15:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

What is the point of the new wiki?
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 16:12, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Why not, guys? We should have a wiki in every language! :D

Anyways, if you have a web domain you can install mediawiki on it and get going! Perhaps also ask jvvg if he can port the account registration onto it or do it via email like the German wiki. (just PLEASE don't use wikia)

If you don't have a place to host, it'd probably be best to ask if it can be hosted on a scratch.mit.edu domain. You can ask/advertise in the Translating Scratch forum.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 16:16, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Mathfreak is right. But who are your editors going to be?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 16:30, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘I don't know, maybe it could be under the DACH-Scratch Wiki link?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 16:37, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

maybe, we need a new host to host a new domain. It could be ni.scratch.mit.edu

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:31, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Nigerian isn't a language...
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:35, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

wiener bun! You are right, gosh time to study geography now ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

if he means just a Nigerian wiki, the possible languages are Hausa, Igbo and Yoruba.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Igbo.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 17:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@JayceeMinecraft: Okay, that makes some sense.

@Everyone: I'm not sure if you know yet, but there's already a topic in Translating Scratch made specifically for anyone who wants to make a wiki.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:32, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @ErnieParke, I already went there, but you told me to contact the Scratch Team.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 18:40, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

How many people know Igbo? Or want to be apart of a wiki?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 19:13, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

1.I don't know.

2.You and 61 want to be part of a wiki.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 19:22, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

@JayceeMinecraft: I know you went. It's more or less so that everyone else can know in the future, in case they come across someone wanting to start a Wiki in a new language. ;)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:18, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

OK.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 20:50, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Do you know Igbo?
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 03:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, he does, on the forums ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

We have a new neighbor!

Apparently Dmith set up his own Russian Scratch Wiki: here
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 15:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

However, it will not be supported by us since he used Wikia (we hate it :P). Infact, the English one was originally on Wikia.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 16:56, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

That is true. We hate Wikia. It is cool that he started one though.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:34, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Why we hate it? ADs that go to suspicious sites. >:(

SSS User 18:51, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks bad.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 19:10, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

We hate Wikia because of the ADs.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 22:25, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ That is also true.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 23:39, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

Would we be allowed to put a Wikia wiki in the interwiki table?
Derpmeup (talk | contribs) 23:41, 12 July 2014 (UTC)

It would neither technically nor legally work with Inter wiki. Too bad they don't do Scrat her anymore. There just aren't a lot of free hosts without ads.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 12:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

we CAN technically add it to the interwiki table; however, we don't approve of wikia

and actually you're forgetting an even more crucial reason why we don't use Wikia is because of no Scratch account authentication; if someone signed up as lucario621 but wasn't him what would we do?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

That is true.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 15:04, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't be so negative about wikia, in fact this is how the english AND German wiki started but got transferred.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 19:01, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

2 Things about Tweaker

1. It needs an image. I intend to repurpose Tweaker after Jvvg returns, so I can't just use the WM icon. Any ideas? 2. New feature idea. But in order for it to work, Tweaker would to be an admin. Any page in the category Pages in need of deletion would be deleted. Normally an Experienced Wikian would work, but they can't recover deleted pages.

Your views?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 12:51, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Automatically deleting pages in that category would have the effect of giving everyone permission to delete pages.
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 13:22, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, maybe there would be a list of users who have abused the feature, and Tweaker will ignore their edits?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 13:47, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

1. TIAC doesn't have a logo, so I am indifferent

2. I could just run that script on my main account? I can put together the program really quickly.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 14:13, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I don't think we should use main accounts for bots. Plus, that doesn't sound like something TIAC should do. But we should still figure out a way to stop users from abusing it before we put it into action.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:39, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

but it's not editing it's deleting, which can't be hidden anyways

either way we're probably not going to make such a big permissions change atm
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 16:56, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you mean about abuse. That means it shouldn't be a bot process. Plus it's the whole reason for the italic line at the bottom of the template.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 16:57, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

bot user images are really only preference. if you want, you could go to Wikipedia and find bot accounts, and then get ideas for images. and deleting pages isn't such a big deal - I think we got it - unlike the sandbox clearing where no one really cleared it until like weeks ... oh and ps when jvvg gets back the patrol feature will be very helpful and no bot is needed.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:08, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Hmm....maybe just an EW, then?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 19:03, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

no user right change is needed at this point.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:36, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

ps - you can directly talk to scmb1 if you want to discuss it with a bureaucrat :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

1. Remember what we said before: not every task needs a bot. Deleting pages is easy enough for the admins/EWs we already have, so why make a bot do it, especially when it can add potential problems? 2. You will not do anything with Tweaker once I get back unless it is approved like any other bot. Simply because I gave you permission to run WM while I'm out does not mean you can do anything you want with the account once it is no longer needed for its original purpose. 3. If you really don't like the default icon, just use the bot icon, which you can find in the template on bot user pages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:35, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I was only planning to tell a bureaucrat if we decided it was nessessary. Besides, I knew I'd need to do the bot approval process. I still think this would be a good idea.
Krett12 (talk | contribs)

If you're insistent on this idea, you can submit it on the bot request page. However, keep in mind that several people already have voiced disapproval of this idea. Just don't start it without approval, or I will request that Tweaker be blocked.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:43, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Sure, I won't start it. But the thing is, who are they? I sure haven't seen anything like that. Sure, maybe I'll give the not thing another chance, but the hnically anyone could make a contribanned bot by using their main account.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

People above (such as blob8108) have expressed disapproval. Yes, anybody can run a bot script on their main account, but the edits always show up in recent changes and there are query limits, so if anything bad happens people will see it immediately.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm with the disapprovals.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:32, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay. Unless someone besides me says yes in the next 24 hours, I'm gonna stamp a big "NO" on this.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 12:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Help Page

Should there be another help page called Help:Edit Summaries?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 18:21, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

hmm, how would one elaborate on it?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:23, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

What do you mean?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 18:26, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I was thinking, if the page was created, the only things that could be placed on the page is what it is, where it is and recommendations - which could be placed in the wiki guidelines.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:34, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

But I know how to make it into more words [:<(not in a bad way)
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 18:37, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

hehe - best thing to do is to draft it in your sandbox ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:34, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ OK, I will work on it in my sandbox, I will tell you here when I'm done, then reply to me here.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 15:11, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

sure!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:57, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

[1]
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 09:03, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

So, is it OK to be a help page?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 09:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@KrIsMa What do you think?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 20:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Are you going to answer yet? It's been over a week...
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 14:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I think that Help:Editing pages#Edit_Summary covers it already. You could add a little bit there, though.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:33, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ OK
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 16:01, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 16:21, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

are we..

are we really enforcing a "no removal of bot messages" action? just wondering because it seems to be in place - i dont think disallowing people from removing their bot notifications is a good idea? ideas ? :)
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 21:40, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

I think we should disallow people from removing bot notifications.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 22:12, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

ahh I see, I was wondering because someone could have like 20 notifications and that really is bad because the human discussions are muddled in the bot notifications!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:14, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

There is no longer a technical reason that bot messages can't be removed since WM now uses edit history to log edits. The reason now is that sometimes users get messages and delete them, and it seems as if they are just ignoring the messages. I think if a user deletes the message, that should be acceptable as long as the behavior is not repeated after deleting it.
I have extremely limited internet (it takes me about 10 minutes total to log in and submit stuff), so I will probably not get your replies. Also, please note that I am only reading the CP, not even my user talk page. I will respond to user talk messages in about a week.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:30, 13 July 2014 (UTC)

we can safely say that deleting bot messages are ok only if the user doesn't have a chronic problem of ignoring the notifications.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:48, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Some pages that need editing

where can I find a list of outdated pages, pages that need spelling fixed, and pages that need grammer fixed? I am kinda new.--
Braeden5454 (talk | contribs) 03:55, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

First of all, new messages go on the bottom. Also, I do not think there is a list, however any pages with the Wiki Standards template will probably need spelling fixed and grammar fixed. A list for that can be found here. As for outdated articles, that can be found here.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 04:19, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

there is no list of pages where there sre typography errors, however you could search for common misspelled words and see if there are any page content matches...

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 04:46, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

@swampert it's probably better to use the categories, here and here
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:34, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Proposed user talk page rule

Do not try to sound like a figure of authority ("please do not do this again in the future") unless the user has already received several warnings. Even if the user has received several warnings, do not sound too intimidating unless it's a serious issue (i.e. vandalism).

I just don't like it when other users do this. Even though I am an admin, it feels like I'm being intimidated, so how do you think it would sound on a new user that didn't even know what they were king was wrong?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:10, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

+1

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 14:30, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Does this mean I will need to redesign Tweaker's messages? As far as I can remember, they all say that.
Krett12 (talk | contribs)

Sorry, I should have been clearer. If you explain why in a friendly way, yes, you can say it like that. I'm talking about messages that end in something like "please do not do this in the future" or do not explain why they shouldn't do what they did in the future. And I'm especially talking to users that actually don't have any more authority than anybody else on the wiki (i.e. not bots or EWs or admins).
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:05, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Owning a bot is a RANK? Cool!
Krett12 (talk | contribs)

What? all wiki bots have the rank bot, not bot owners i think :o

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

umm, telling an admin that he did something bad is ok, just not things that don't explain what to do in the future? ok i think i understand now. everyone on the wiki makes mistakes, not only users, but ew, admins as well.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:00, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Owning a bot is NOT a rank. When we said bots are not a status symbol, that was one of the things we meant. You do not get any additional privileges (except control of your bot) or status for owning one. Bots are for the good of everybody, so glorifying the owners does no good. Being a bot is a rank, and it gives privileges such as marking edits as bot edits and higher API limits.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:45, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

This is weird. Forget what I said before, I am totally quitting this bot thing when you get back.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 04:14, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

New Page

Can someone help me make the page Edit Menu because it might take a while? Because I'm going to write what happens when you shift click it as well and that's a lot of things.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 13:32, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

What is the page going to be about?

SSS User 02:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Like File Menu but slightly different.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 08:24, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

C'mon, can anybody help me with the page? It might take a while.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 18:04, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

If you are working on it, I am going to add the {{In Progress|JayceeMinecraft}} template to it. You can remove it when you are finished.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 21:46, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

archive

The CP just got archived but there are still 9 topics?
Krett12 (talk | contribs)

some active topics don't get archived ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, like KrIsMa said, the active conversations don't get archived until they are complete. Once they finish, they will probably be archived in the next archive. ;)
derpmeup (talk | contribs) 19:18, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Categorizing Files

How do you categorize files someone already created?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 20:24, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

By doing the same way on how you add categories to any page.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 20:29, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Going to the bottom of the page?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 20:37, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

yes.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:57, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

Wiki API Page

We have a page on the Scratch API, but not one on the Wiki API? It could even be a subpage Scratch API (2.0)/Wiki API
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 01:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

There is already documentation about every feature on the MediaWiki wiki.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:49, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

It would just be a duplicate of [1].

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:53, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

First of all, if we were to document it, we would put it in the Scratch Wiki namespace.

The feature on the MediaWiki wiki is very helpful, but doesn't necessarily apply to our wiki. The auto-generated API helper on our wiki contains info relevant to our wiki, but isn't very descriptive.

There's really not much one can put into one page, though. I attempted something here but it's less thorough than the API helper.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:37, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

it seems definitive right now, but if someone does want to write the phi API in the scratch wiki n.s go ahead!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

please draft it first though ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I tried fixing the Custom Blocks page

I tried to rearrange it and rewrite some parts to make it updated and less technical. Is this draft any better? It probably needs a better example.
Djdolphin (talk | contribs) 03:39, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Seems ok.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 08:26, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes yes yes.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

yes I was dying to get that fixed up.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 13:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to change the main article.
Djdolphin (talk | contribs) 18:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

change

it's a bit confusing with Category:Scratch Program Images and Category:Scratch 2.0 Images, so maybe rename it to Category:Scratch 1.4 images?
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:18, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Agree. And the ones that are 2.0, move them.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 21:38, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I think all of the image categories need to be redone.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:17, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

k I'll get to work on the image categories. I'm going to work on the program images first - if anyone has any more they want to change tell me while I'm on it ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm planning on keeping Category:Scratch Program Images, but I'll create subcategories for scratch 1.4 program, scratch 2 program, and then maybe old images of scratch as < version 1.4? Then the paint editor can be the same. The Category:Block Palettes category could also be split into scratch 2.0 and scratch 1.4, and I'll move block palette 2.0 images from Category:2.0_Block_Palettes to the new category (or change its subcategory).

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

first I'll make Category:Block Images a category for two subcategories so far! scratch 1.4 block ims and 2.0. Keep all updated in progress.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:25, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

ps this is ridiculous - the volume of edits this takes. anyone know how to lessen the clutter in the r.c? My bot script is down :(

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:03, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

now i am making scratch 1.4 images and scratch 2.0 images different by separating Scratch 1.4 Program Images and Scratch 2.0 Program Images

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:37, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ If anyone wants please help out! Please place Category:Scratch Program Images into either Category:Scratch 1.4 Program Images or Category:Scratch 2.0 Program Images thank you!
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:42, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll help out in a few minutes.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 20:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

thank you! I'm going to take a quick respite for now - to much ipad editing!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Done! That was a lot of work. Phew...
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:50, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

thanks JayceeMinecraft and ErnieParke for fixing that ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I am done with category changing! Admin please help by deleting pages listed on Category:Pages in Need of Deletion! Thanks again for your patience and understanding!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:12, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Deleted and done. Anyway, you're welcome!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:45, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ I'm about to separate Category:Scratch 2.0 Website Images and scratch 1.4 website images too - anyone disagree?
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Nope. I could help if you'd like. Just tell me when you're about to start on my talk page!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

it may be complicated, but if I do that, I add subcategories for Category:Scratch Website Images for 1.4 and 2.0 and older versions, then all current subcats for the category gets separated to 1.4 and 2.0 - im going to wait for 2 days because scimonster said so ;) hope he replies to this, too

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:12, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

That sounds OK.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

scimonster, do you prefer in Category:Scratch Website Images only two subcategories! Scratch 2.0 and scratch 1.4 images, or do you want a lot of subcategories on scratch 1.4 profile pics, scratch 2.0 profile pics, 2.0 front pages, 1.4 front pages, etc?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:20, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Subcategories that are specific to one version (ex. Navigation Bar Images) could go in that version, while others (ex. April Fools' Day Images) can go in the main category.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:36, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

New Page - 2

I have an idea for a new page. I think we should have a page called Social Media. It would cover the sources of Social Media that are usually used on Scratch. The page Twitter, would be moved there. I will create a draft on my Sandbox that you guys can look at before I create the real page.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 12:06, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Most people are gonna boo you, but I like it.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 12:56, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

"the sources of Social Media..." wha?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:16, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I think he means the social media platforms used by Scratch. I don't think it's such a bad idea.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Scimonster is right. I would include; Twitter, Steam, Google+. Possibly others that I think of too.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 15:27, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

That actually sounds like a nice idea -PRO-. I'm sure there are other noticeable instances like with Twitter that would be nice to have on the Wiki. I'm interested in seeing your draft.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Awesome! I will start on it. For screenshots and stuff like that, I might need others help.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 16:47, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ Okay! I can help with the screenshots if you want. Just tell me what you need (and links if possible), and I'll give you the images.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:57, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Awesome. Should I comment on your talk page or your scratch profile?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 17:28, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I think that you've figured out by now.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Slick templates

A mix of white CSS brings you...

better, cleaner, and slicker templates!

So, instead of using

REMOVED - THE TEMPLATE HAS BEEN UPDATED

we would use

This page no longer has any use and needs to be deleted. The user who added this template does not have permission to delete the page. Admins: remember to check the page history and what links here before deleting.

Better templates! What do you say? Should we give our templates some polishing?

Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:23, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Uh... The first one looks a lot better. There's hardly any difference.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 14:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

We switched to the current style with the release of 2.0 because the theme better with it. The second is very close to the old style.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

See?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I like the second one. But I see your point scimonster.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 15:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I have to agree with Turkey3; I like the current style more.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 16:37, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I like the current style more too.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 18:11, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ If you want it to look more like the theme, then we should make all the templates blue. Otherwise, the second fits the theme more. However, although more people like the first one better, the second one would still fit the theme more unless the first one was blue. And what about people who use the Vector skin such as Mathfreak and I? this is the way we see things
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 18:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I just tried the skin out, and I don't see anything wrong with the templates. The top one still looks nicer.

As for the theme... I see more of the wiki having a similar theme to the first template then visa versa.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:58, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I support the second one.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 19:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Even! I guess that means mine wins? BTW, for some the first appears as a square box (TACKY!) but the second one is always, always round. See?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 21:51, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

The first one doesn't appear as a round box. What browser are you using?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 21:52, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

What I mean is that the top edges are supposed to be rounded. On some machines, they're not. The second one is always the same way. Consistency is an essential to the Wiki.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 22:13, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

If you can consitently round the corners of the second template, couldn't we just update the first template to round consitently as well?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 22:31, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ The only way to do that would be to use the second template, which is what we're already talking about!
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 22:33, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't see JayceeMinecraft's vote. 3-4! Mine wins. I will now change all of them.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:54, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

wait i haven't voted yet - we have to call a vote first ;) (or it's kinda unfair) wait - I have a feeling if you continue rollback will be required ~ wait for another high authority person to come (which I mean admins which has been here for a long time) ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

it got reverted :( i think the reason why is because we want all templates to be like {{Header Template}}

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:56, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, what do you prefer? If you say yes, I'll use the template for templates this time.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 03:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, since I was on my TV's browser and I could revert but not post to the CP, I'll share all my thoughts.

First of all, since when do you have the right to hold a wiki poll for <24 hours without any debating or anything whatsoever (including actually calling on the vote :P). You opened an unexpected poll for 9 hours and quit when you were ahead. :P

The class .gradient-vertical or whatever was just made to mimic the Scratch website in the 1.4 days. That's the whole point of why the templates look the way they do now.

Also, I use Vector, and I don't care at all what these templates look like. I prefer the style we have now.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 12:28, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay, sorry, sorry. I think that the second one is better because of consistency, and because it is based on the ones we already have. Slight white-lighting change. Which is why I called it a mix of white CSS :P. So, 15 more hours of votin'. Aww, so it's a tie. BTW, if I closed it as soon as I was ahead (0-1) it would've been before Turkey's post. Irrelevant, just saying.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 14:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

I like consistency of {{Header Template}} so I like current one, oh yeah,gradient vertical breaks on safari (goes through box).

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:06, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Button

I made a new page here for welcoming people, as you can see the word "Scratch Wiki" is a link, but I don't want that, I want the whole button to be a link, how can I do that?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 21:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

I did it for ya.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 21:45, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

No, I meant the box where the word scratch wiki is in, the whole box should be a link.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 21:59, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, that is impossible to do.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 22:14, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Please, please, please stop using fancy formatting for welcome messages. It just causes confusion and format errors. Keep with simple messages.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:47, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Recent Changes

To ignore the ongoing 1.4 images project, use this as an alternative to Recent Changes
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 21:37, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. Now, it is actually this] :)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 22:29, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

Hopefully I am done! Enjoy anti-recent clog!

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 00:55, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Major changes - message to bold editors

To all editors: being bold is not a bad thing. Don't be afraid to make big edits. However, there's a difference between making major changes that affect one page, and major changes that affect the whole wiki, or many pages. Some examples include: Embarking on a major recategorization campaign without first checking how to organize the new categories. Or changing template styles against the wishes of the admins. Please, before doing big things, get administrator approval. We're not a dictatorship, but some of us have been on longer than others, and have a good idea of how things are supposed to run.

I've been on the wiki for a long time. I joined before there were 400 articles. Now we have over 850. I've seen lots of progress, policy changes, and revamps. I've made major changes several times myself. However, all of them, even as an admin, have been after consulting with the community.

Checking first lets the community give its input on things. Discussions on major changes should, IMO, last no less than 2 days. Yes, 2 days, so that everyone can give their input.

If people do big things without approval, it can be a pain to revert. I speak firsthand.

Thanks for understanding. And thanks for all of the helpful contributions everyone has made.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:07, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

+1
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 15:12, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

if you are referring to me - I did ask the cp?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:13, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

It wasn't necessarily bad. We just hadn't discussed exactly how they would be recategorized.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

if you want a recategorization I can use my bot to mass edit again ( but it doesn't show up in the rc )

if that is needed I hope that helps with my knowledge of categories ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:31, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

@Scimonter Nice message.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 20:29, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

no recat? Sure

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:01, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Is it possible to...

Link images in MediaWiki? It might be kind of cool / useful to link, for example, all the blocks on Motion Blocks to their relevant pages.
AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 23:36, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Yes, easily! Take this code:

[[File:Example.jpg|thumb|100px|link=Sprites]]

Turns into:

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 23:39, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

Someone was supposed to redo it to use <sb> tags with links.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:09, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

What happened to this workaround?

The workaround for If on edge, bounce used to be on the wiki, but I seriously can't find it anywhere. And I tried to check the deletion logs, but couldn't find it.

I know it used to be on here because I used it in a project. I could try to find it, but it isn't complete.
AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 23:42, 17 July 2014 (UTC)

It looks like Mathfreak removed it because it doesn't work.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:18, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm... It worked fine for me. I guess I better get my trig cap on and write a new workaround. :P

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account)

Just go look at the source...
blob8108 (talk | contribs) 15:08, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

Nah, too lazy. I'll just let someone else do that. (Partially because I don't really know Flash...)

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 16:21, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

It's not workaroundable because you would need to be able to check which edge the sprite is touching, which is not really possible without other sprites to act as the walls.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:42, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

This is sadly as close as you can get. No trig should be involved in this. Seriously, moving a sprite by an arbitrary trig ratio isn't gonna get you anywhere.

EDIT: Well, I managed to create a much better workaround. The project was updated with the new workaround.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 00:10, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmmm... are you sure it isn't possible to tell which edge a sprite is closest to using it's position?

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 00:11, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

You could. Then again, it would fail if the sprite is touching multiple edges.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 00:34, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Certainly you would be able to tell what wall a sprite is touching based on its x and y position as well as it's costume dimensions (and center-offsets) being stored in list items associated with their costume numbers?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘If it touches multiple edges, just detect that and have it bounce diagonally off.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 02:57, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

If there is costume dimentions, it would need to know what point of the costume is touching the edge , and that gets a bit complicated again with multiple edges, where two points of the costume touch the edge.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 19:02, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Workarounds: Why bother?

When I was making a quick workaround to go with the above topic, my brother IR_pickle who was sitting next to me brought up a very good point: Why bother giving a workaround for something that already exists? Is there a practical reason for this? If so, please explain.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 00:38, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

For obsolete blocks, people who want to make their proects seem more complex then they really are, and just for fun.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 01:57, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Let me quote some text from Talk:List of Block Workarounds, since it summarizes my thoughts well.

“	Other ways of doing the block. For me at least, seeing another way of doing something can open up my mind.	”
– Scimonster

“	To add a new perspective on things... I think they're just interesting. Even if they don't have a specific purpose they are interesting to look at and figure out, and perhaps maybe looking at workarounds for blocks like this can help people figure out how to do things that are slightly different from what the original block does?	”
– WeirdF

ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 02:22, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I see what you mean, Ernie. I wish there was a slightly better reason but I guess that's as far as they go.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:19, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

But then I have another question: Is it really necessary to have the "change" blocks have the workaround with the "set" block and vice-versa?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:20, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

to me it shows some important future scripting techniques, since in most programming languages there is no "change __ by ()". There only is, for example,o = 0 o = o + 1

...which is the set function. Some have ++, but that gets complicated. I find having an exhaustive list is better than one that is missing information; if we make workarounds for all the bricks, why omit the set, change blocks?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:59, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Actually, a lot of programming languages (Java, C derivatives, etc.) have a "change by" function: +=. They also have things that are even more useful: -=, *=, and /=.

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 19:41, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

true, ++ in different languages mean the same thing -- but yeah that gets a but complicated, learning it may take some time (it took me a while) but anyways if there is a workaround for that i say we keep the workaround.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 20:04, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Small template idea

You know some discussions on talk pages just don't get respondd to when time is tight? This template is placed on top of a discussion to signal an admin or someone to reply. Some examples include: This discussion needs immediate attention or something like that.
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 16:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I wouldn't say "immediate" and you spelt respond wrong if you want to go ahead and fix that and do you mean something like this? (Not in a bad way) XD
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 16:25, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Signature Logo

In June, I put a rainbow behind my icon for LGBT month. But, on July 1st, I changed it back to normal because it wasn't June anymore. But, in my signature on the Wiki, it still hasn't updated to my regular logo after 20 days. Do you know why it's taking so long to update?

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 18:41, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

That is odd. Try clearing your cache. If that still doesn't work, just wait a while longer. I recall when I updated WM's icon, it only took a few days.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:47, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

I just cleared my cache, I'll see if it changes.

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 19:04, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

That happened to me too. That's why I created my custom signature that looks like the default one. Now it changes when I upload my new logo to the wiki.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 00:54, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

-PRO-: Cool idea! How do you get just the timestamp, though?

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 18:51, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

In my summary, I accidentally wrote KrIsMa instead of -PRO-. :P

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 18:52, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

five instead of four tildes

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:48, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Recreate "Reporting Users"

And have it redirect to Report#Reporting Users.
AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 03:10, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done, but why couldn't you do it?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:01, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh, I was going to, but I thought we were supposed to bring up new pages (especially previously deleted ones) in the CP first.

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 13:49, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

Redirects are usually OK to create, as long as their useful. If a page is deleted for being a duplicate, if it has a good title, then a redirect should definitely be made.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

some people are weary of creating one - from the volume of new redirects recently deleted. I think there is some help over at Help:Redirects.

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:47, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

New Curator

There is a new curator. Please add this to the Scratch News. The new curator is Masquerola.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 01:09, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:13, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Thanks
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 01:29, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Leaving again

I was on for a few days, but starting tomorrow, I will be completely gone until mid-August. This means that I will probably not receive/respond to any messages, either on the CP or on my user talk page. I will not be able to check in on my tablet or anything. I probably will not even have email where I am going.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:17, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Alright! Have fun! I'm sure you will? If you wouldn't mind saying, where are you going?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 01:28, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

NOOOOOOOOOO :( (-PRO-!!!! You just edit conflicted me!!!)

SSS User 01:29, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I hate when that happens.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 01:33, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Me too...

SSS User 01:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I'm headed to the northeast. I will end up being on a lake in Maine.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:38, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Visit Paddle2See lol!
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 03:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, be sure to see Paddle2See. ;)
Derpmeup (talk | contribs) 07:15, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ That's what I was going to say.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 12:06, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Scratch News Error

I noticed on the Scratch News, it says that Masquerola has become the curator. But then, it says "Feel free to congratulate kspiegs on his/her profile!". I think you need to make kspiegs say Masquerola. ;)

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 08:08, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I said that that should be changed. Plus, can we still congratulate kspiegs?
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 12:07, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

 Done
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:38, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Template/Category

I have seen quite a few pages about errors/red messages and I was wondering if there should be a template called {{errors}} or a category called Error Messages or none. What do you think?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 08:31, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I think for the last time, we don't need any more templates.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 12:07, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

YES. Definitely, -PRO-. Anyway, it doesn't seem to be that constructive. Just think about it, users already know where the red links are. They are red for a reason, to bring attention to them and say "Hey! I need to be fixed!" So, no, the template's not needed.

SSS User 13:42, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Then how about a category called Error Messages?
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 16:18, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

No, that wouldn't be needed either. We already have other templates that could take its place.

SSS User 19:28, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Name one.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 19:29, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

We already have Special:WantedPages which is an automatic list of all the red links in articles. Also, I think we should try and limit the amount of improvement templates we have. We don't want readers seeing more template than article.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 21:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Social Media Page

I have been working on the Social Media page in my sandbox. I have been stuck on the Steam section for awhile. I have written it but I need someone who has Steam to add to that article. I give you permission to edit the Steam section whoever you are. Thanks.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 12:12, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Do the Scratch Team have a Steam account? If not, I don't really think we should put it in as it is unrelated to Scratch.
EH7meow (talk | contribs) 14:26, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm not sure if the Scratch Team even has Steam. I completely agree with EH7meow. :)

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 18:30, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

They don't because it is a gaming site. I think it should be included because lots of people talk about it.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:36, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

They might talk about it, but it's still not Scratch related. For example, we might talk about summer break, but it's not Scratch related.

By the way, didn't you see my comment about Steam on my talk page?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:51, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I will delete it from my page. No, I will look at it.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:53, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I got rid of it.

SSS User 18:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

New Template

Should we create a new template called Abbr for the abbr tags? This is an example.*
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 21:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... Can I say what I said to JayceeMinecraft? We don't need any new templates. We have told that to multiple people for the last couple of months at least.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 22:00, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

the abbr tags were already used to rapidly put a abbreviation into a page. Adding into a template would yield no better results, other than 3-6 less c,haracters typed, which is no biggie )

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:45, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Scratch Team Members

I'm making a page which contains information about all of the Scratch Team members and admins on the Scratch Website. I was wondering, when I finish it, should I merge it with the Scratch Team article or make a new article? Also, the links to the profiles won't be there in the completed page.

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 22:43, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I think you should merge.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 23:55, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I think there already is one.

SSS User 23:58, 22 July 2014 (UTC)

I like the sound of a Scratch Team Member page (or expansion of Scratch Team), but you might want to check with the Scratch Team first. It's a haunch, but I'm not sure all of them would want a wiki page.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 00:26, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

@ErnieParke: I agree with you. I'm going to ask some ST members first before making it a possible article. :)

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 01:32, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

Melikes. It should be merged into the existing ST article when finished.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:46, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

IP Address

We should create an IP Address page. It can't be that hard.
File:-PRO-LogoBlack.jpeg-PRO- (talk | contribs) 13:11, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Computer Science#Networking
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 14:26, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

Alright. Thanks!
25px-PRO- (talk | contribs) 21:35, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

New Article Notable Enough

Is Massie_Block notable enough in Scratch's history to deserve an article?
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 03:43, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Hmm... probably not - there have been previous users who have stated their deaths, I don't think they have an article either... (Also, nobody has confirmed the truth one way or another)

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 03:51, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Okay.
Swampert11 (talk | contribs) 03:55, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

Who is Massie_Block by the way?
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 18:02, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

She is a scratcher that faked that she had CHD and died. She faked it so she would get attention.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:31, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

You don't know that she faked it. There may be evidence, but that really doesn't mean anything.

AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 20:14, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

No, we do not need an article.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 21:30, 25 July 2014 (UTC)

We don't need an article on it. I saw someone who wasn't even a wiki editor comment on massie_block's profile that they'd be getting a wiki article on them, and I told them about S:NOSP. xD

File:Logo-derpmeup.png derpmeup (talk | contribs) 05:36, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

Project

I don't know what to do, I have found an inappropiate project and have tried reporting the project but no moderator or anything is noticing.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 09:11, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I remember a similar story earlier... A user had reported a forum post because it needed to be seen by moderators (spam?), but since nothing was happening with the post for an hour or two, the user reported it multiple times. Once a moderator had seen the post, Paddle2See stopped by and said thank you for the reports, although multiple reports weren't needed. The moderators just needed some time to see the post (since the report queue was clogged?)

Anyway, I'm going on vacation in a minute to Florida on Treasure Island from the 27th to the 9th. Yay!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 09:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Yeah but I reported 2 months ago and still no attention.
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions 10:01, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd say it's okay to report it again in that situation if you're sure the moderators would consider it inappropriate.
Djdolphin (talk | contribs) 13:34, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Oh... Maybe you could bring it up on Paddle2See's profile page? I've asked about my reports a few times before that way.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:53, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

Don't have too much fun ErnieParke! JK. Have as much fun. Just share the fun with us. :)
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 14:26, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

File:Scratch Forum Post.PNG

Sorry to bring this up in the CP but because it keeps on coming up in recent changes I feel that it needs sorted out.

What exactly does everyone it to be? (I don't really care as long as it's relevant to the page(s) it's included on.)
AonymousGuy (talk | contribs | Scratch account) 04:01, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Just a little while ago the issue has been resolved. The current revision by Mathfreak213 is final, AFAIK.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 17:40, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

CP Archive

The CP needs to be archived. Thanks!
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 17:51, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I think it's fine. If you want, I could archive it and have an admin protect it. Do you think we should?
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 17:59, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I think so. All other archives are around 30 or 35. A couple are at 40. I want to wait for an admin so they protect it right away.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:04, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

hmm, sometimes special posts need to be kept, so i would just wait for an admin to do it ;)

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 18:05, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

That's what I thought.
-PRO- (talk | contribs) 18:07, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

Can my user page be protected?

Now that I got it at its ultimate form (LOL) I am ready to protect it so no one can edit it. Really, even if I needed to, I would just have to edit the other page I used for my profile.
SSS User 22:16, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

I'd like mine protected, too.
Krett12 (talk | contribs) 23:17, 29 July 2014 (UTC)

 Both requests granted.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 00:27, 30 July 2014 (UTC)