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How To pages

As we get closer to the release of Scratch 2.0, one of our goals is to integrate the wiki more tightly with the rest of Scratch. Towards that end, Natalie, Ricarose, scmb1, JSO, Lucario621 and I have been having conversations about the issues this brings up.

Before we start diving into the details of the transition, we think it makes sense to step back and think broadly about the goals of the wiki. It seems like there are two major ones:

1. To support Scratchers with Scratch related stuff. 2. To document all things about Scratch.

These are both great goals, but they don't always mesh. One example is the Translating Scratch (website) page. This page is trying to describe lots of things related to translation, while also trying to support new translators learning how to use the translation system. The two purposes get in each other's way, and can make things wordy and confusing - especially for new or less technical users. The same can be said about the Paint Editor page - which combines a description of raster and vector graphics along with tips for using the 2.0 editor.

So we're proposing that we make this distinction more clear on the Wiki by creating a new category: How To. How To pages will be focused on showing how to do things in the simplest, clearest possible way, with an audience of inexperienced Scratchers in mind.

To do this, we’re making a How To category on the wiki. How To pages will be made distinct from other pages by the presence of an image in the upper left column on the page (mocks coming soon). They may also be titled somewhat differently -- i.e. “How to Translate the Scratch Website”, or “How to use the Paint Editor.” How To pages may be written directly addressing the reader as “you.” These pages will contain links back to their equivalent general information pages (i.e. Translating Scratch (website) and Paint Editor), in case readers want more information. We’ll be making guidelines for editing them soon, but the plan is that the How To pages will be written with a ‘less is more’ philosophy. Anything that could confuse or disorient someone with less technical background should not be on placed on a How To.

There’s lots of others news / updates about the wiki coming soon (updates to the backend and to the page design to match 2.0), but we thought we’d start with this update. Let us know if you have questions!
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 19:07, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

That seems like a good idea, but how come i haven't heard about about this until now?

I've long warred with myself over this very problem, and i'm glad that it's being addressed.

This actually seems pretty similar to the FAQ — both geared towards newbies (mostly); both are written in second person; both have a special category and look. Any chance they could be connected more?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:46, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Sounds interesting. I think we should make what this little icon would look like first if we do decide to do this. Somebody's sandbox maybe, or the Scratch Wiki:Sandbox. Also, maybe add on those "confusing pages" with Template:Main so that it helps clear up some things. Maybe split those pages in half if need be. One thing though, how long would we have the title of the page? Would we go for shortest to have an easy URL or lengthy so a search for it would more likely come up with that page?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

On Wikipedia, How-to pages are not allowed, so there is a template for articles that sound too how-too-ey, so that the article can be improved.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:20, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

But Wikipedia also allows categorizing user pages and dumb categories.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:45, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

While this is a wiki, it doesn't have to work in the same way Wikipedia does :P Anyway, sounds nice!
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 06:05, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

Sounds good! I had some trouble writing Squeak Tutorial without making it too informal or too wordy, having a howto section will make it much easier. :D
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 01:50, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

P.S. Actually, that article is outdated now that we have Flash-based software. :(
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 01:51, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

I think tutorials about 1.4 are still relevant, especially if we had a certain category for them.

On the idea as a whole, I think it's a really good idea.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 02:47, 9 February 2013 (UTC)

New wiki skin for Scratch 2.0!

Hey all, I just pushed a new 2.0 skin to the server. Find it in your settings (it's called S2Cookie). Please try it out and share all bugs so we get get the wiki in full 2.0 action as soon as possible :)

the sidebar content type identification boxes are based on page categories. More on this (and probably quite some changes) later :)

Thanks a lot.
JSO (talk | contribs) 16:07, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey JSO! (Seems you've been gone a while... :D)

It looks nice! Though the search box is a little funny: the magnifying glass obscures "Sea-" in the placeholder text. And it doesn't like narrow windows very much (screenshot). (I'm using Chrome on OS X.) Looks cool, though! :) Very 2.0ish.

Also, feel like adding the new scratchblocks while you're at it? ;) :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 16:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

w00t! I'm on it now,looks awesome! Can't find any showstopper bugs. Maybe we can make it the default soon.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 16:22, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

One other thing is the table of contents needs styling, but I'm sure you know that... :P I just found the menu at the top right, clever! It gets the wiki-editor-specific stuff out of the way quite nicely.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 16:29, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Wow, I love it! Neat! The search thing is the only glitch I can find (maybe bullet points should be lght blue or gray? Or orange?

• Orange
• Gray
• Light blue
  Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 16:41, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Floating images need more padding: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/What_the_Community_is_Sharing
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 16:42, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! Grouping edits in recent changes doesn't load the necessary JS.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

This isn't bold.

That's a bug, right?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:05, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Hey JSO, could you fix ScratchSig to work with the CDN Scratch is now using, and re-enable it? (Lightnin took it down.)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:21, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

There are lots of scrollbars in weird places, such as when viewing a diff.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:06, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I think the links could go somewhere. Scratch to Main Page, Create to Scratch Wiki:Create an article, Explore to Special:Random, Discuss to here, and Help to Help:Contents.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

The Contents box is just a bunch of links.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:56, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

No more red links. They're all blue.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:58, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I like that skin you made! Nice to get into the 2.0 shape!
~Legobob23o (talk | contribs | sandbox) 21:00, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

The Warning template transclusion is messed up (

Warning: )
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:19, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

The search at the top looks a bit weird and doesn't show the dropdown, and the table of contents on each page doesn't have a box around it. Still pretty nice, though.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:45, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. The general page layout looks like a good rough version so far, but the main problem is that the font size and spacing of the main content is a bit messed up. I think it should be reverted to the previous size/spacing (like on most other wikis) so our templates don't get messed up (as curiouscrab pointed out).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:04, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

I looked up User:KrIsMa/Templates to see how the templates are going on the S2Cookie skin and {{ListTOC}}, {{Not done}} and {{Done}} mess up.
~Legobob23o (talk | contribs | sandbox) 11:38, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Just a quick heads up: thanks everyone for the testing, and I'll try to look into the bugs and fix them as soon as possible; Maybe it would be useful to create a quick bug list? Maybe Scratch Wiki:S2Cookie Bugs ?
JSO (talk | contribs) 12:10, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Done! Can someone check I didn't miss anything?
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 13:03, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Another issue is that links to pages that don't exist still show up like normal links (i.e. blue not red).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I filed that one as "Broken links aren't coloured red."
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 14:44, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks great. I don't know if this is helpful, but I'll post anyway. I made a mediawiki skin based on 2.0 site too. I think it follows the layout and style of the 2.0 site a little better than yours, but it has a fairly small width for the content space and has some problems with large space consuming menus. I have been testing it on a server here. You can download the source here.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 04:58, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

Doh! The new skin is disabled temporarily. We should have it back shortly, along with some fixes.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 19:27, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Yea! Can't wait to test some more.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:46, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

Porting authentication to 2.0

If you need help porting the authentication system to Scratch 2.0, I have experience in PHP and have programmed a comment-based verification system on Mod Share.
Jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)

Please test scratchblocks2

Blob8108 made a good replacement for JSO's Block Plugin that supports 2.0 blocks. Lightnin said they might add it "on Monday" which might or might not mean tomorrow, but in any case, he wants a bit more testing on the wiki before installing. SO, please create a userscript to run on the wiki with the following code:

  mw.loader.load('http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.css', 'text/css');
  $.getScript("http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.js", function(){
      scratchblocks2.parse("pre.blocks");
  });

Thanks!
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:28, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

I did notice that the header's z-index needs changing on s2cookie (scratchblocks2 uses z-indexes ~100), but that's a one-line fix. It's fine on the default theme. :)
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 09:13, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that too.

One thing that we would need: the scripts to run when live preview is refreshed. (Live preview is an experimental MediaWiki feature that i'm using - it uses AJAX to load the preview, instead of reloading the page.)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:39, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't know about that :P Maybe adding it to Common.js, or however we end up enabling it on the wiki, will also make it work on the live preview thing anyway...
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 18:55, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Added as a wiki extension - please test!
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:37, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Where?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:18, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Everywhere! Except if you're using JSO's new s2cookie theme, in which case it doesn't seem to load at all for some unfathomable reason. But otherwise, it should work everywhere!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 09:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I am using s2cookie.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:36, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Switch back to Vector, then :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 15:47, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't like using skins that are incomplete—it makes it hard to concentrate.

~ Hardmath123

16:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Hi guys! I started a new list of bugs in my userspace. What do you think of the style? People could discuss the bugs under where they are listed. MF231 00:30, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Disputed template

Line (Scratch Modification) has a warning saying the article was disputed. So I thought that there could otherwise be a template to say so. What do you think of the idea?
~Legobob23o (talk | contribs | sandbox) 10:26, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

It would be used so rarely, i don't know if it's worth it.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:19, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

That's really what the Warning template is for. It can go almost anywhere. As Sci said, not too many uses for it. Maybe a box could be put around it so a mod to the template could make it so instead of {{Warning|TEXT}} you'd have to put {{Warning|TEXT|yes}} to get the box around it.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:24, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

The wiki standards one could also be used with a note on the talk page... I mean, if it comes up again then we could consider it but IDK that we need it right now.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Links to old forums

All of the links to the forums since Scratch 2.0 was released are broken. Are the old forums still accessible in an archive? What should we do to update these links?
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 22:47, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Working on that, but it's rather tricky. I hope to have them up this week, but it's an old, tricky system. We'll post in announcements when they are ready.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 14:14, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Sig extension

Greetings all! The Scratch Sig extension depended on the old Scratch API, which is no longer running. It looks like it could be refactored to display thumbnails based on user-id, but you'd need to find a way to store / associate Scratch user id with each wiki account. To get user id (and thumbnail) just open a user icon on a profile page in a new tab. The icon should have a url like this: http://cdn.scratch.mit.edu/static/site/users/avatars/18/2451.png If folks don't love the scratchsig extension, it's probably easiest to not fix it. But if you do, here's the current code in case it helps come up with a new strategy. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1979035/ScratchSig.zip
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 14:40, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

How about using Gravatar based off the user's email address?
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 15:02, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Getting the image from the username is annoyingly easy in Python:

r = requests.get("http://scratch.mit.edu/users/blob8108")
soup = BeautifulSoup(r.content)
print soup.find('div', {'class': 'avatar'}).find('img').attrs['src']

Now to hack together a semi-decent HTML parser in PHP :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 15:19, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

Maybe when users join, they are given a random profile pic and they can upload an image and change the image by letting the user edit their sig or a subpage of theirs or in Special:Preferences.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:48, 15 May 2013 (UTC)

You can do it client-side with an xhr, you know… ;)

~ Hardmath123

03:03, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

But it's on a different domain. :S

@blob: PHP has DOM parsing abilities; i'm just not so good at it. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:23, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured out the DOM and sent Lightnin an email with the code!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 09:18, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Cool! (P.S. you forgot about corsproxy.com? D: )

~ Hardmath123

14:37, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I actually never knew about corsproxy.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:16, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I was kind of talking to blob8108 (we were discussing this on the BYOB3 discussion thread). But check it out, it's great for JS geeks who don't like sandboxes. :)`

~ Hardmath123

16:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

I dunno, client side would be kinda meh :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 17:29, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

D: You're mean. :P

~ Hardmath123

22:44, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

But what about people who disable JS?
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:00, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

No scratchblocks.

~ Hardmath123

23:46, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

D: I'm not mean, I'm lovely! :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 14:38, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Separating 1.4 and 2.0

The articles are mixed and mashed in the TOC. Many are still on Scratch 1.4, but many on 2.0. Some were updated, and some remade. To organize this, and for ease of use, I think we could probably either in each TOC page separate 1.4 and 2.0 into categories because there are still are many who use 1.4, and its good to still have those pages for history instead of updating them all to 2.0 and forgetting about the old pages. Or, instead of making separate 1.4 and 2.0 divisions on each TOC page, we could create a new section on the main page all on 1.4, and that will include the 1.4 program, tutorials only related to 1.4, and the website. Then, in the original 3 categories on the front page, they will be all Scratch 2.0 pages, and all the 1.4 articles will be under the 1.4 section. However, blocks would not go into the 1.4 category; they'll stay in their own section. I think this would organize it.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) May 18, 9:56 a.m.

Have you seen the general plan for the articles at User:Blob8108/UpdatesFor2.0? The general idea is to keep 1.4 pages for history, but adding (1.4) to their titles. We're trying to have most of the wiki content refer to Scratch 2.0 features, but just call it "Scratch" to avoid confusing new users that don't know what version they're on. The new articles have links back to the 1.4 articles where relevant (under "See Also").

With that in mind, then, I'd suggest we keep the TOC for current stuff (v 2.0). We could put 1.4-specific articles in their own TOC -- but since most of the new articles link to the old ones anyway, we probably don't need to.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 14:35, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

new things for articles or new pages

I was thinking about users who want specific information from Scratch Wiki articles, but see a bunch of info on just about everything else. I was thinking have a section that answers almost like a common faq about that topic. For example, "What's the difference between Bitmap and Vector?" We could make a section on both of those pages called Difference between Bitmap on the Vector page and Difference between Vector on the Bitmap page that talks about the differences. What's everybody else's opinions on this?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:40, 19 May 2013 (UTC)

Don't we seem to have those kinds of stuff? And about that particular example, i think it could earn an entire page to itself, instead of being on Paint Editor.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 04:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Glitch

Here's the thing: On User:BWOG/Edit Rankings, it displays KrIsMa's (as an example) edit count as 1000+, but on his/her actual editcount, it displays it as just under 1000. Is this a glitch or something?
~Legobob23o (talk | contribs | sandbox) 18:10, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

I think they might just count it slightly differently. In any case, it's not really even a glitch worth fixing.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 19:13, 20 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, even some of the other users' edit counts are a bit off based on that test. But it's not really a big difference, so it doesn't matter.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:36, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Forum Links Warning on Front Page

Maybe right now there could be a warning on the front page about links to old forums won't work right now to prevent confusion and/or complaints.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think that's necessary because it won't affect most users of the wiki plus I haven't seen any complaints so far.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 19:28, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Template idea

Something that tells that the article is out of date and needs updating. I haven't come up with the exact words for it yet. Read this, then tell me we don't need this. (not really of course) Mathfreak231 ^{Talk to me!} _{I did that!} 20:32, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

New curator

 Done

I'm going to be a front page curator later today, so the news should be updated to reflect that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:33, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Congrats, although I noticed you already updated the articles. I think the admins prefer if you wait until you are curator.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:01, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

It was just a couple hours off. I don't think that it's a big deal.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:04, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, forgot to update.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 06:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Scratch skin up again!

We just pushed the Scratch Wiki skin with some fixes. You can see it by changing your skin in your preferences. Could you try it out and let us know if there are any catastrophic bugs before we set it to the default? Thanks!
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 19:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

It looks good. I think Blob8108, you, and I did a good job. :)
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Agreed - thanks to you, Blob8108, scmb1, and JSO for fixing up the skin! It's looking good.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:57, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The one issue I see is that <scratchblocks> don't work. I think Blob8108 said he was going to work on that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:06, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok skin is live! I think we need to update the ScratchBlocks code, and teh ScratchSig code.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

K, adding ScratchSig.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:19, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Awesome -appears to be working. Thanks Blob8108! And nice work! :)
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:20, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Yay! Here's a link to the list of bugs: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Scratch_Wiki:ScratchWikiSkin_Bugs Please add any that you find! :)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 21:27, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Seems to work well. The Scratch Wiki looks better than it ever has before.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 00:05, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh goodness, this ScratchSig is so much better than the old one.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:17, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Though it is essentially the old one with smaller images...
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 08:14, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Your point is? :P
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 10:30, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

That it's not "so" much better. :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 12:14, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks awesome :o
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 05:56, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

The skin is great, good job!
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:06, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Woohoo! Gonna try making some minor edits.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:11, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Is there any way of purging MediaWiki's cache? Existing ScratchSig tags will only update when the page is edited: for example.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 14:49, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Just add ?action=purge to the URL, and it will uncache the page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:16, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Aha. Clever!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 15:28, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

This is a disambiguation page, which lists possible pages that you may be looking for. If a link led you here, you may want to change the link to point directly to the correct article.

Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:37, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

Woah, very pretty!
OrcaCat (talk | contribs) 21:09, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

What to do when Writing out a Variable's Name?

When I write articles and talk about scripts, I use the names of the variable's in my writing. But how should I type them? Should I bold, italicize, or put them in quotations?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 09:24, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

"The variable "variableX" contains valueX."
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

New registration description page

Our current registration description page at Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor contains information relating only to the current system. I have created a new system that the Scratch Team is currently reviewing, but it is quite different from the old one, and as such requires new documentation. I put the proposed page in my sandbox. Please look at it and tell me what you think! Once the system is in place, I will put what is over there on the real page.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:42, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Looks good!
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:47, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

2-item disambigs

Do we really need them all? Mostly the block/value disambigs; can we not just say {{about|the block|an explanation of the value this block holds|<NAME OF VALUE PAGE>}}?
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:07, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me, go ahead and do it.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 22:10, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

 Done; the unused disambigs were marked for deletion.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:47, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

I support this, but next time please wait for more than one or two opinions.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:03, 15 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I will next time.
Bsteward (talk | contribs) 03:30, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Okay. Sometimes I just get really eager to do stuff when I have the time. I'll hold off next time. :P
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 11:21, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

THE FORUM ARCHIVE IS UP YAY

Example.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:34, 16 June 2013 (UTC)

Yay! But if you click on a username, it directs you to the archived page, which requires a password.  :(
Firedrake969 (talk | contribs)

ScratchBlocks2 extension up!

Thanks to blob8108 for making the extension and trouble shooting it. It's up now! :)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 16:02, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

The non-text (such as the Green Flag, and the arrows on Turn () Degrees (blocks)) is invisible D:
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Good point. Why are the files missing? eg: flag.png
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 07:25, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

Just updated! Does it seem to work now?
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 21:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

They're working for me.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 08:36, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Copying new "Become a contributor" page

Currently, the new "Become a contributor" page is located in my sandbox. However, this means that others can't (shouldn't) contribute to it, because it is on my user page and we aren't supposed to edit each others' user pages. Should I just copy it over to Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor so that we can all edit it, and because the current page refers to a defunct system anyway?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:14, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Sure.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:05, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Seems fine to me as well.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 12:01, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Ok, done.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:43, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

Time to archive?

This page is now 74KB and it's getting progressively more difficult to scroll down to see new stuff.

Should we archive it?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:55, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

+1 My scroll bar is less than a cm long.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:33, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Display Resolution of New Skin

I love the new skin but I noticed that it always keeps a width as if its being viewed on a 1024 px width screen even when viewed on a higher resolution. Shouldn't it be changed like the old skin where it would adjust to any resolution screen? Sorry if this is repetitive; I searched for mention of this.
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 9:30 p.m. June 25, 2013

I was going to try redesigning the CSS at some point to be more responsive, and so resize right down to mobile screens (If @scmb1 thinks that's okay...)
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 06:22, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Whoops, sorry, to clarify: I agree it should resize, but I think we should keep an upper limit (although maybe it could be a little larger). You have reminded me to work on making it resize smaller, though. :)
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 06:24, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

The old skin (referring to the one before Vector, ScratchSkin or whatever it was called that was styled like the 1.4 site) had a static width and I believe this was so that it could be more guaranteed that layouts & etc. would work for everyone more easily, though I'm not sure about this.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 08:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)

Sounds pretty cool, blob8108. We're working on discussing some possible minor design changes right now for the wiki skin (mostly involving How To pages), so it would probably be best if you waited a while until we get that sorted out. Don't want you to work hard on big changes and then have the design change on you. :)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 19:54, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

New curator

 Done

DJ-stickman is our new curator, so the news should be updated to reflect this.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:16, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki:Become a contributor

Sign Up Form | Responses
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:55, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Please don't do this. jvvg is working out a few last bugs in his authentication system, which is much more secure (and only viewable by admins). Until then, wiki signup is closed.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 16:54, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't know about that.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 17:01, 27 June 2013 (UTC)

Update on registration

The new registration system is almost done. There were just a few database issues encountered when attempting to install it. If all goes well, this should be in place by the end of today. I will keep everyone posted on what's going on. If anybody wants to see live updates, check out GitHub. Thanks for being patient!
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:24, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the errors have not been fixed yet. We are still working on it. There is no estimated completion date/time yet.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:25, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

And, it's up! Thanks jvvg! :)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 18:59, 1 July 2013 (UTC)

Block Pages and How-tos

I have two questions but thought Id combine them into one post. Ever since the transition to the new skin, and I know that it's still being worked on, on all the blocks pages in the TOC everything is vertically out of place. The spacing in between each block is greater. Will we have to manually fix the code of these to fit the new style or will the skin be updated and fix the block pages?

Also, are how-to articles strongly supported, or so you prefer more fact articles? Because I have some great how-to articles Id like to write, such as grid-making. Or would you rather we focus on fact article creation?
Turkey3 (talk | contribs) 22:41 June 28, 2013

We'd like both how-tos and info articles.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 20:10, 29 June 2013 (UTC)