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Suggestion for 2.0: revamp text editor

Well, Scratch 2.0 uses a great library called markItUp. I've already played with it (and implemented a color picker for the forums which may be added in a future version), and I know that it's literally trivial to add it to the Wiki. In fact, if you want, I can make you guys a nice changeset with all the files you need so that all that really needs to be done is add <textarea id="somethinghere"></textarea> to the page and you have a markupable box. Support? :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:05, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Depends. Will we use it? How will it be used? You have a long paragraph, but we still need to figure out why we need it.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 11:52, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

I find it easier to do <span style="color:COLOR"></span>
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 11:53, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Interesting idea. Some of the features might be useful, such as the keyboard shortcuts, but what does it really offer that our current edittools don't?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:23, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, for one, it's uniformity across the site. New Wikians won't be startled by the purple stuff, they have the tools they remember. You also get keyboard shortcuts, as you mentioned. It can be easily scaled to many other things that I personally feel the need for editools for, like Wiki tables.

The MIU editool bar is much more compact, and it has some drop-down menu items that condense a lot more tools into the same space without confusing users. The current editool bar is a lot more confusing since it's purely symbols that need to be hovered for a while, and anyway a couple of things (like math) are not even supported.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 07:11, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Good point. OK, it does sound nice.
Scimonster (talk | contribs)

Some of the things on ours are completely different, though. And I'd find that really confusing. :'(
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:34, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Well, with the new editor system, we can have a custom set of tags. Basically, it accepts a structure of name, icon, begins with, and ends with under the hood. So "bold", "B", "''' ", " ''' " would be enough to get bold working. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 01:30, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Mod Section

I think we should have a Mod Section on the front page
Devloper123 (talk | contribs)20:30(GMT) 4th Febuary 213

What do you mean? For featured Scratch Modifications? I disagree.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 20:35, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

No so we could have a whole easier way to find mods

not for featured
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 5 Febuary 2013 18:01 (GMT)

Please explain more. I have no idea what you're trying to suggest...
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:30, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

So it'll be easier to find mods, Not featured mods
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 17:27, 6 Feburary 2013 (GMT)

You mean a list? I think something else would be better such as a block list.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:24, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

Like the blocks page with the same layout but a diffrent category

Devloper123 (talk | contribs)16:03, 7 Febuary 2013 (GMT)
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 19:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

lol failed to do it in my Sandbox

Devloper123 (talk | contribs)19:39,26 Febuary 2013

Possible downtime / locked db time

Hi all - just to letcha know, I'm working on moving the wiki up to a server in Amazon's cloud, and upgrading the back end stuff. That means I may have to freeze the db now and again (when making a copy of it). It should tell you when the database is frozen, and won't let you submit edits during that time. There may be other flakinesses as a result of the migration. I'll ltecha know once we're done.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 18:00, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Alright. This is a quick test.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:54, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

It seems like this in in the middle of moving. The history diff style is cool, but the URL is not. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:51, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I was looking something up and got 404'ed. :P
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:58, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Video/Project element

Easier to make demonstrations (Of course I understand if MB Limits prevent it)But easier to like show a project/video about (e.g Modifications)
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 22:31,11 Febuary 2013

? Maybe more details.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 23:13, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

See Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 31#We GOTTA Have This Extension. (I was a n00b back then. ^^)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:03, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

lolxd n00b xDDDDDDDDD

Plus you can pretty easily link to stuff on Scratch and YouTube/Vimeo/whatever so it's not that big of a deal.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:11, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

Status of wiki migration / upgrade

 Not done

Thanks to everyone for being patient while me move stuff around! We're now upgraded to Wikimedia 1.20, the latest version, and also situated on Amazon's cloud service, which is a good spot to be in while we reshuffle all the physical servers during the transition to 2.0. Apologies for having to rush things - but I wanted to minimize the amount of time we had to keep the database frozen, so I spent most of yesterday migrating and upgrading. The old skins, unfortunately, don't work at all with this newer version of wikimedia - so we've got some work to do there. nXIII has started working on a 2.0ish skin that I hope we can get up soon, and then continue to refine with JSO's help. One other thing to look out for is functionality that didn't take the upgrade all that well - custom code like wiki approvals may have problems. Extensions are another piece that could be tricky. Please keep me updated about any issues you find post-migration, so we can sort them out. Thanks!
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 15:04, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

I noticed that the skins utterly failed.

Is there some sort of setting for the URLs, because all of a sudden, pages are in the root directory, and index.php stuff like editing are in /wiki/. This breaks most stuff, including account request and approval.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 20:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

We've made some changes to match the config used on the original server. Can you confirm that URLs are as expected?
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 00:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

The front page looks messed up, can't wait until the migration. (And yes, I am going to be active again! :))
Joletole (talk | contribs) 20:45, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! There's plenty of work to be done - we need the help!
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 00:01, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

On this CP, i don't see section [edit] links, though i do on articles and ordinary talk pages. Also, the block plugin is broken.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:33, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

I noticed this too, but I figured it was an issue with our skinlessness. I had to ctrl-F to find this post.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:30, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

new look

I preferred the old look, and JSO's skin may have to be changed now.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:47, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Thankfully, Vector's only temporary (though it'd be nice if we could choose Monobook in the time being; Vector's ugly!). While you may have preferred the old look, the skin doesn't work with this newer version of MediaWiki. They're switching the server and skin now, I believe, because they're working on the transition to 2.0 as well as because they need to redo the skin anyway, so it just makes sense to only do the new one. And we can't really avoid the new MediaWiki since it's kind of bad to have outdated software plus it already happened.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

I think it feels too much like Wikipedia and just seems weird.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:36, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

It is only temporary, as I said in my post as well as is in several posts around here plus the message at the top. It is the default skin of MediaWiki. Be patient.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:49, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki:About

At the bottom of each page there is a link that reads "About Scratch Wiki" but it leads to a deleted page. Redirect?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:57, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
Update: All footer links lead to deleted pages except "About Scratch Wiki" which I just fixed.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:03, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, this may be because of a configuration difference in Apache that we just reset to match the previous one. This means that any links you reset may need to be set back to the old, original, pre-migration url.
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 00:03, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

Special:SpecialPages

 Done Doesn't appear to work anymore. I keep getting a list error and some code.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:00, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Probably just a defect during the migration. It should work again soon.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:15, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

scratchsig links

 Done The link that my username in my scratchsig leads to is Wiki/User:Curiouscrab instead of User:Curiouscrab. Needs fixing.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:24, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Another side-effect of mid-migration, I'm guessing.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 22:46, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

box template

I created a template for templates everywhere else that use boxes that can be found at User:Curiouscrab/Box. Wondering if it could be a template.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 01:03, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

User:Curiouscrab/Sandbox

I think there should be something that users can click on and make their own version of the main page of the wiki so they can show their ideas. Currently I don't have a good label on the button and that would need to be discussed. What do the admins think?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:39, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

I don't understand... what is the purpose of this?
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 05:31, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

In case some users want to show their ideas it would be easier to click once then to click view source, copy, go to sandbox, then paste and make changes.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:12, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

If someone truly wanted to show their idea for the front page, I think they can just copy at paste (since that's what you have to do for any other page or piece of code). Plus, the button there would be useless for users without wiki accounts and probably be confusing for them and new users as well. I don't support.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:55, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Bots

Bulbapedia has a BulbaBot, so why not Scratch Wiki have a ScratchBot or a GoboBot? Whatever the bot is called, we certainly need one on here.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:14, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
If we do decide to make a bot with one of those names, I will make concept art.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 15:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

The idea of a bot has been brought up several times, and it would be useful, but the main problem is that none of us really knows how to make one. I've tried, but it's a little difficult to mess with the APIs.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:27, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

True... I sure wish I knew how to make one...
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 19:30, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

You've gotta use something like PHP, Python, or Perl.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 21:32, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

I have a half finished Python script if it's of use to anyone...
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 13:57, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

wut's it do
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 23:16, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Comments on top:

# A simple scratch wiki interface. Can:
#   * list pages in category
#   * read page (download wiki markup)
# ~blob8108
# http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/

So, as you can see, those things.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Suddenly coming back! It's possible to create bots in PHP if you know some, and I've done one using an API. Bots can help with some stuff on the wiki, like replacing words on a page, or mass creating pages, even mass deleting pages (if the bot is a sysop), and more. I can't host it unfortunately, but I can try/help writing the code (if it's PHP).
Ihaveamac (talk | contribs) 03:18, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

Ah, I remember: I got stuck at this point because what I really needed was a bot account to test the script with, so that it had permissions to edit pages through the API and so on.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 09:13, 22 February 2013 (UTC)

More Bots, not the good kind. :)

We had some downtime today, which it looks like was caused by Bing. Bing sent bots to index the whole site, seemingly all at once, which killed us (too many page requests at the same time). We added a few things to slow them down a bit so it hopefully won't happen again. But if you notice slowness, please do comment here (with timestamp) so we can check the logs and figure out the cause. Thanks!
Lightnin (talk | contribs) 21:27, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

There's some sort of error at the top of the page on every page of the wiki.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:44, 17 February 2013 (UTC)

That sounds downright creepy: Microsoft bots sent to attack Scratch = Slone troopers sent to hunt down Jedi. :P It was pretty slow right now, though, just to load the CP.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 01:26, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Happened on Win 8 and Windows XP Professional
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 20:25, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

My Main Page Customization

I thought it would be cool if there were "Recent Articles" and "Recent Wiki Users" sections on the Main Page. View my customized Main Page here. The "Recent Articles" section would show three random of the most recently created articles (Though not user pages. That would go in the "Recent Wiki Users" section). And the "Recent Wiki Users" section would display three random of the most recently registered users. So it would be easier for people to see and maybe say on the user's talk page, "Have fun editing on the Wiki [user]". What do you think? It would be nice to have some opinions!
Legobob23o (talk | contribs) 19:18, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

It'd have to be something we could dynamically update, though, for it to be worth it, and I don't know how we could do that.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 19:53, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Well,Most of the time I'm doing Scratch/Wiki/Coding/XBOX/3DS So I Could update(If I get notifications)
Devloper123 (talk | contribs)18:46,25 Febuary 2013

kierseyna

Here I received a message from a user named kierseyna who said they signed up for a wiki account and it somehow got messed up. I think they would like to know what happened, and I'm curious as to what happened as well.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Main Page:Scratch Program

Now that 2.0 is coming out soon, I think somebody should upload a picture of the Scratch 2.0 program (I always get bad images) and then when the time is right change out the picture of the 1.4 program on the Main Page.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 00:55, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

[scratchblocks]

Hi guys! JSO doesn't seem to have been around for a while, and it seemed like fun, so I've been working on a complete rewrite of the blocks plugin for Scratch 2.0, on Github here. You can try it out on this test page, and you can preview it on the wiki by pasting the following into your Javascript console:

   mw.loader.load('http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.css', 'text/css');
   $.getScript("http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.js", function(){
       scratchblocks2.parse("pre.blocks");
   });

It supports all the new blocks, including custom blocks and their definitions, and it includes a few hacky fixes (list reporters, anyone? :D). It's released under the MIT software license (thanks to Lightnin for briefly trying to explain licenses to me!). I have yet to test it with IE8, but I'll get there...

Some questions for you:

• Can we use it on the wiki? :D

• What should I do about Scratch 1.4 blocks that were removed or renamed in 2.0? (There's a list on the readme page). At the moment they render as obsolete, which might help spot code that needs updating. But should I support 1.4 as well, so it doesn't break existing scripts?

• How should it deal with unknown blocks? The old plugin sensibly rendered them as obsolete. This colours them as custom blocks -- but I could have the plugin search for block definitions and only render them as custom blocks if you've included the definition as well (kinda like I did for list reporters).

What do you think? :) Thanks!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 12:43, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

The current [ v] reporter still needs work and now any obsolete blocks are purple, not red.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:58, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I mean: it colours unknown blocks as the purple colour used for custom blocks, because you might have defined a block by that name. I can easily add specific blocks as obsolete if needed.

What's wrong with the dropdowns? :)
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 16:34, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Something that can't be fixed. I think some sort of code that detects whether a block has been defined or not should be put in so that there are both custom blocks and obsolete blocks.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:27, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Comments need to be created. The // stuff.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 19:01, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, they're the one thing left to do :P Now done!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 21:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

This is super cool! I'd definitely support it being used on the wiki. I like the idea of having to define blocks for them render as purple and rendering others as obsolete. And I think it should support all the blocks from 1.4 as well, plus have some way to change the colour of blocks specifically (for articles on mods, obsolete blocks, etc.) Great work!
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 20:00, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! Okay, I'll add the 1.4 blocks back in. And I think I'll switch to obsolete as the default, and custom if they're defined... the one issue is if the custom blocks are defined in a different script. For them to show up as custom blocks, they'd have to be defined in the same <scratchblocks> tag. Would that be a problem?

As for mods: technoboy10 was asking me if it'd be possible to make a Snap!blocks parser. The block library the plugin uses for colouring is written in the scratchblocks syntax itself (have a look at the end of scratchblocks2.js), so adding new blocks is really easy. Should the <scratchblocks> tag simply support blocks from lots of different mods, by default, all at the same time?
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 21:59, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I think it should, otherwise it would need even more complicated coding and stuff.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:33, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I pushed a new version that adds 1.4 blocks, and makes unknown blocks obsolete. Custom blocks still work, as long as you define them in the same code (not necessarily before). Comments are still to come. Try it out!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 23:12, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

Awesome! What I mean by for custom colours is that we could do something like

wait until < (variable) = [100] > {#FF0000}

to make it a different colour, so it can support every mod, without much effort.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 01:56, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

What happened here?
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:41, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Other than the fact that "[dist v] to ()" isn't a block? :P The parser doesn't like it if things start with inserts — this is because it uses the first character to determine the shape. (Standalone reporters work just fine.) I'll have a look, but I'm not sure if it's fixable/worth fixing.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 10:56, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

A lot of refactoring and a quick hack later, and it is fixed! I needed to tidy up that bit of code anyway... Now this example works perfectly. Note that reporters still need to be wrapped in brackets ( ) to render correctly — this is just to demonstrate that leading reporters don't break the parser. Thanks for reporting!
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 13:59, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Just tried this out. Awesome! You did a nice job. Perhaps i should add this temporarily to MediaWiki:common.js, so that ScratchBlocks can work again? #admins
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 16:31, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Please do :) Try this:

   mw.loader.load('http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.css', 'text/css');
   $.getScript("http://blob8108.github.com/scratchblocks2/scratchblocks2.js", function(){
       scratchblocks2.parse("pre.blocks");
   });

Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

This does look like a cool project you've been working on Blob8108! I definitely agree that the block plugin should be updated/fixed in some form for the release of Scratch 2.0 - when this will be possible, I'm not sure. Though I will definitely consider the different possibilities and show JSO the work you've done when I get a chance.

@scimonster: While I know you have good intentions, you shouldn't change the Common.js or Common.css page without the permission of JSO or I or the Scratch Team. It's simply a matter of keeping the wiki in working order and keeping the wiki's code as manageable as possible - while these pages might be convenient to use, sometimes there are better places for updating the appearance and function of wiki pages that are better for MediaWiki's modular structure. I hope you understand. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 01:35, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

I wasn't going to do it without your permission, don't worry.

@blob: I don't think we have jQuery running here, though it's possible that i'm wrong.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 09:08, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

jQuery loads on every page, and the plugin works when you load it from the JS console, so I'm pretty sure you do. :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 13:53, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Finally added comments! I added multi-line ones, too, just for fun.
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 21:17, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

page size

Wow! I'm surprised by the number of lengthy conversations on the portal that the portal doesn't show up in Special:LongPages, or is that only mainspace pages? Anyways, I think the page should be archived soon (or at least the finished topics) because my browser is lagging badly. Maybe a half archive if only half the topics are finished (another reason for  Done and  Not done).
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:37, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

I actually did just archive it a few days ago, but there are many unfinished topics that couldn't be archived.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:03, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I think this topic needs archiving. :P
Blob8108 (talk | contribs) 20:07, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Improve Trigonometry Page

One day I was looking in alphabetical order for the "Translating Scratch (website)" page, and then after finding it, I realized we had a "Trigonometry" page as well. I read through it, but found it to be short and fairly incomplete. Trigonometry (and 3D modeling) is probably the only thing in Scratch I can't do yet, so I was hoping I would be able to learn it from here, but it taught only "Trigonometry" (which I already knew) and not much "Trigonometry in Scratch" (which I was hoping to learn). The example of an application given is really short, and the examples they tell you to try are almost impossible to complete without other help (well, the first two are not too bad). Specifically, the last one: 3D modeling. It's kinda hard to make 3D figures when only knowing those 6 trigonometric functions and their inverses. I think someone who is advanced in this topic should write more about it, and perhaps, split them into different categories. Currently, we have very few math tutorials, and having more, especially for trigonometry, would be nice. Can someone please write some more tutorials on Trigonometry in Scratch so all of those Scratchers like me can learn? Thanks ^ ^
Kayybee (talk | contribs) 05:48, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

Well, I wrote a lot of that page and I agree with you: i's too theoretical and doesn't give enough real-life uses of trig. I'll try and add some stuff—thanks for the inspiration.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 08:38, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

I came back!

 Done
I came back to the Wiki (again, homework) and Iwas wondering, is [[User:KrIsMa/Sig]] supposed to look like a link? Isn't it supposed to be the contents of the page? Is it because of the lack of format from the message I saw on top of the wiki? Thanks! ~ KRM User:KrIsMa/Sig 04:59, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

No, you'd do {{User:KrIsMa/Sig}} for transclusion.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 05:10, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Oh thanks! Forgot :) Willcustom sigsbe here forever?

KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 03:26, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

I doubt it; we're still supposed to use our wiki sigs.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 06:18, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

how to page template/category

 Done
I created a how to page template and the how to page category. Template | Category How are they so far? Template: Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 51

Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 21:05, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it would draw too much attention to non-editors. Also needs grammar improvement.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:54, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

It's only a mock up.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:51, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I think an internal comment would be better.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 05:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

I concur.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 05:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

What about the category? This would preload the category. Right now I have the cat=no enabled, so the category isn't preloading on the CP.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:21, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

There's nothing wrong with just writing the category by hand.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:48, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Ok.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 18:34, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Special:ListGroupRights

Seems outdated. The all section no longer exists, as you must be autoconfirmed to do anything.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 22:56, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

In that case, let's try deleting it! xD... Yeah, I'm afraid since it's a Special page there's not much even I can do about it. I think the reason that all section still has abilities is because instead of disabling group rights for the wiki we decided to use a plugin instead... but I don't completely remember.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:26, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

A Template!

I did a template as well as Curiouscrab recently did. I thought I could make my own kind of experimental project so I did. Template:

This article or section contains some inaccurate content and may be wrong. So don't take some information on this article or section too seriously. You can help by adding references to facts that need citations.

Legobob23o (talk | contribs) 23:12, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

I like it.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 15:23, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!
Legobob23o (talk | contribs) 20:28, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Suggestion:How to Page page

Here a user had a question. I think a how to should be created. I don't know how to do this yet, so I can't make the how to page.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 02:16, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that does look like a good candidate for a How To page-- good find! For now, I think we're going to focus on transitioning the wiki to 2.0 and working out all the details with that before getting How To pages going. But we did just put together this Help:How_To_pages page, so if you wanna check that out and see what the general idea of the How To page will be, please do. And of course, suggestions and edits are always welcome. :)
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 03:32, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

New Curator

 Done

There is a new curator, ImagineIt. An admin needs to update the news.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:36, 4 March 2013 (UTC)

Known Wiki bugs

Hey guys, I started a page called Scratch Wiki: Known Bugs to compile a list of bugs on the wiki as we transition to 2.0. I see some you already added some bugs to the list, so that's wonderful! It would be totally awesome if you added any more bugs as you found them. Thanks!
Scmb1 (talk | contribs) 18:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Scratch Team Blog in Scratch Wiki:Current Events

The latest post was that they're discontinuing it, and replacing it with a new blog on the 2.0 site. What does that mean for the section? I recommend filling it with posts on the new blog. Or should it simply be discontinued?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:11, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, we could always do a somewhat archive thing and call it an "old wiki tactic" (:P) from when we provided for the 1.4 site.
Curiouscrab (talk | contribs) 20:12, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it would be good to continue with posts from the 2.0 blog. It would give it more publicity.
Legobob23o (talk | contribs) 21:46, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

For now, I agree that it would be fair to just start including posts from the new blog. Although this does raise the question of what will be done to the Current Events section in Scratch 2.0 - after all, the Scratch Team might include their own form of news-like support for Scratch Design Studios and updates to the website on the main website. Though I don't know too many details about it yet.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:38, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Well, according to the contest, it seems like they will be including that info there. So, when they post like "ScratcherY is the new curator", do we include that there AND in the curator section, or just in one? If so, which? Probably the curator, unless we just turn the page into mostly a copy of the official blog (not the best idea).
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 10:09, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

Should I be making this?

I made...or should I say started making...a series of forum topics to ask Scratchers' opinions about things that have a ^{[citation needed]} tag on them. Then I decided that I shouldn't do this kind of stuff without approval. What do you guys think?
Here are the topics I've made so far:

• The guidelines
• My first poll!

Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 21:55, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

I think it would make more sense to have a forum topic for Scratchers to suggest how to pages and have it on the Beta site where more users are showing up that would be able to do a citation.
~Curiouscrab (talk) 22:06, 7 March 2013 (UTC)

That is completely unrelated and should probably brought up in another topic on the portal.

As for the topics, I personally think it's a good idea. When there's citation needed tags for things like "Many Scratchers want..." and etcetera, this definitely works.
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:24, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

+1. But if we can find the classic topics, that would be even better.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:27, 8 March 2013 (UTC)

But the classic topics may contain opinions that have changed over the ages, therefore the info will be out of date. Still, I ask Scratchers if they find a forum topic relating to the poll, so if they have something bookmarked for some reason, they can pull the link out.

Thanks for feedback, guys!
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:05, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Advanced

Can this be a template?Template:Advanced
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 15:31, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

Couldn't the {{note}} template just be used?
veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:41, 9 March 2013 (UTC)

+1 to Veggie. "Note: This article is about an advanced topic and is not recommended for new Scratchers" sounds better anyways.
Mathfreak231 (talk | contribs) 13:25, 10 March 2013 (UTC)

Bot Swarm

We were hit again, shutting us down temporarily, but we have recovered.
~Curiouscrab (talk) 01:40, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

^{[citation needed]}
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:17, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Template:Danger External programs

This can be used to warn scratchers that this wiki page contains links to external programs The Template
Devloper123 (talk | contribs) 18:54, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

I left a comment on the talk page.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

New Curator

 Done

There is a new curator, Rumanti. An admin needs to update the news.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:31, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Accidentally Created template

When sci deleted my /sandbox/strip page, the Recent Changes log says the content was the template. It wasn't; as far as I remember, it was Failed Experiment. What's up?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 14:07, 19 March 2013 (UTC)