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Updating the list of curators...

As you have no doubt noticed, I don't always manage to keep the list of curators on the curator page up to date :/ http://info.scratch.mit.edu/Become_a_Scratch_Curator But most times I check, yours is totally up to date! So I was thinking of removing the list of past curators from the Scratch website curator page, and instead putting in a link to the one on Scratch Wiki. Sound ok to you guys? Lightnin 19:52, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

I think it's fine. :D
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 09:07, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Whatever you want. :D
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:09, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Awesome! Thanks everyone. :) Lightnin 14:28, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Some odd files

Look in the uncategorized files and unused files - there's something odd... I can't really describe it. :/
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Why aren't those block images categorized? And what are those colored square things?
Aidan (talk | contribs) 16:39, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Just ignore them. Everything seems fine (I'll categorize the files).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 17:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Oops! I followed the link to the uncategorized files and those are all block I uploaded! :( How do you categorize a picture? Jwosty 02:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry. One of them were from me. I was trying to show what an "add them all" gallery looks like. I just don't know how to delete it. I'm new to this, so any pointers you give me will be helpful! Markyiscool 09:19, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

'Missing' article

I split the () +/- () (block) block article, so I was going to delete it... but I couldn't find it! It was there earlier today... :/ Can someone explain?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:32, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Anyone? :|
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:01, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Somebody may have already split it. I think I saw one of the split parts.
Aidan (talk | contribs) 14:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Done! :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 16:46, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Bumping discussions

I'm just putting this out there for everyone to know - if you have a discussion that is moderately old, but you want to bring it back and have people notice it, feel free to edit the whole page, and move it from where it was, to the bottom :). However try not to necessarily fight for the bottom spot xD.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 16:49, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

The List block articles

Do we list them in the Variables Blocks page (since they're in the Variables section), or create their own page (since they're a different category from Variables)? :/
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 10:45, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Both, natch. One of them could point to the other. —Brian Harvey (talk) 17:40, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Um... do you want the first method or the second?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Added a "Click here to leave a new message!" button! :3

I thought it would be good to have... so I added it. :3 Any complaints? :|
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 10:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks nice! :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:24, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I can't find that uncategorized redirect!

There are 374 redirects - 357 are categorized under Redirects, and 16 redirects (the shortcuts to important pages) are categorized under Shortcuts. That leaves one uncategorized redirect! Twice I have gone through the whole list of redirects - each time I found them all categorized! Can someone help find the uncategorized redirect? :O :O :O
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:13, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

xD You searched that much? :P If you couldn't find it I doubt I will... wait for Lucario to get back from vacation, he can fix anything. :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

But if you went through the whole list of redirects, surely you wouldn't find it? Because the list of redirects is only the categorized ones... Or is there some other list I am unaware of? :/
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

The list of redirects (here) lists all the redirects, no matter if they're categorized or not. :/
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Can someone try searching through the list? :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:46, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm... I see... I looked through the whole list as well, I can't find it... :/
WeirdF (talk | contribs)

Maybe it's a bug? :O Hopefully Lucario or JSO, with their (it feels like it) magic powers, can help. :| But they have to get back from their vacations first! :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 11:16, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

I really don't know :/. Just keep on searching, maybe once more - but don't worry too much. It will show up sooner or later :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

The List block articles

Do we list them in the Variables Blocks page (since they're in the Variables section), or create their own page (since they're a different category from Variables)? :/ Please answer! I'd be working on the Variables and List block articles, but I'm waiting for enough replies.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:49, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

My advice: just do whatever makes the cross-referencing technically easier. If you can include the text of a page in another page with a pointer, then you could make a separate list page and include it in the variables page. Or, if you can make a pointer to halfway down the variables page, you could put that as the list page. As far as the wiki reader is concerned, either way the full text should appear in both places, so it really doesn't matter. —Brian Harvey (talk) 21:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Meh - not enough opinions, so I'll do things my way. :D
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

"Tell Us" page

I was thinking... Maybe someone could add a "Tell Us" page or something, that would enable anyone (Wiki user or not) to add a comment about if they used the Wiki, and if they found that information they dug up interesting or not. ;) Jwosty 02:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh wait... Then it would be open to spammers! Maybe... an optional survey or something? Jwosty 03:13, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

We have tried to make certain pages, even this Community Portal, open for anonymous users to edit, but we don't seem to have good luck with it - it generally fails. But I could definitely make a poll/survey, like on surveymonkey.com! Good idea! I'll work on that :).
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 14:07, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks! Jwosty 14:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

A poll hosted on another site? Would it be possible to build it into the wiki?
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 06:41, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

There was a poll on the Programming Wiki... maybe it's possible! :D
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:26, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

@Chrischb and Jonathanb: That would be cool! Also, it would enable us to know about how many non-contributers are using the wiki! It wouldn't tell uss all of the people; it should be optional instead of mandatory. :D Jwosty 14:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

The thing about the poll on the other wiki, is that it required a special extension, and considering I don't think we'll be needing any other polls in the future, and it takes a long time to install extensions, I don't think we'll do it. In addition, we don't have the wiki open to anonymous users, so we can't do anything else. But it's ok :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 21:47, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Changing the category "Scratch Program Interface Images" to "Scratch Program Images"

What do you think? :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 09:27, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

That's a good idea! It would save space and work just as well. (Every bit counts) Jwosty 14:06, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I support! :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 21:13, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Okay... I changed the category. :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Um... What happened to the () of () Operators block article?

I had worked on an article called "() of () (Operators) (block)" over a month ago and helped write detailed explanations of all of the functions of the block and made images of examples. Today, in All About Scratch, somebody asked about that block, and I was going to give him or her a link to that article, only to find that, earlier today, the article and all of its example images had been deleted and replaced with a new article called () of () (Operators block) that does not have detailed explanations or examples. I'm not angry- I'm just curious- why? The only explanation for the deletion was "duplicate article," but the remaining article was created long after the first. Was there a decision made not to include these explanations? If not, would it be possible to revive the article temporarily in order to transfer the explanations to the new article?scmb1(talk) 17:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I agree with you! I remember the old article. I restored it, and added the majority of the text back and then re-deleted it - so that should be better ;). I have no idea what Jonathanpb was thinking :(
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 21:12, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

I am so relieved- thank you! It made me kind of sick to think that all of that info may have disappeared... :)

One more thing- on the old article, I included an easy way (using logs) to make exponents that are not base 10 or base e. It would be simple to remake- do you think I should make it and add it to the article or is there a reason not to? Many people do not know the laws of logs that would allow them to figure it out for themselves. scmb1(talk) 21:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry... I thought it was a duplicate article. ^_^

Well, there aren't any duplicates now - Lucario merged them. :)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 05:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Should the Advanced category be deleted?

Everything in it got moved to a different category... it's unused now.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I think it should be deleted.
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 09:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Why are things limited to one category? That's not how it is on Wikipedia. —Brian Harvey (talk) 15:40, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't know... I only categorized my topics once because I couldn't think of more than one category... Silly, I know. Anyway, I think that the Advanced category is fine. Jwosty 18:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

They're not limited to one category. Though in some situations, I want to save space - like for blocks, I don't want to have the categories "Motion Blocks" and "Blocks" - that's just pointless. But having "Motion Blocks", "Stack Blocks", and "Blocks with 1 input" (that last one would be stupid though) would be fine for Move () Steps.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah. But what started this thread was that someone moved everything from Advanced to somewhere else, and I was wondering why they weren't also still in Advanced, which seems like a perfectly good category to me. No big deal, though. —Brian Harvey (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Bharvey - read this. :)

Lucario is right - some things are categorized under more than one category.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:38, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Tnx. —Brian Harvey (talk) 05:19, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Back to it - should it be deleted?
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:39, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I guess so...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 13:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Add Page

Could someone maybe add this page: additional information? It is linked to from User Group Rights. Thanks! :) Jwosty 03:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Hmm. I'm looking at that, and it's not really important. And that page actually linked to Help:Group rights if you looked carefully - so just ignore it :). I'm just going to remove the red link. :) And forget to put your sig ;)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:18, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Ok. Btw:Oops! I keep forgetting my signature... :P Jwosty 03:05, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

NEW SCRATCH WIKI: Mobile Support

Hi, it's SD101 again, and I was thinking, I'm on my iPod touch (3rd gen., 32gb., iOS4) and I cannot view a mobile instance of the Scratch Wiki, just many like all other sections of the Scratch website, and yet I feel the need to have one. It would allow more people to edit more often, and anywhere, easily. It would probably be tricky and would have to be sorted out, but just like the old Wiki(on Wikia.com), those sites are automatically mobile-ready. Same for a few of the wikis I power on Wikia, they even have an automatic app-style preview when you press (+) then "Add to Home Screen" on an iDevice. So, it might be tricky, but I'm just requesting it. Thanks. ~ ScratchDude101 ♦ talk ∆ contribs 15:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC) from iPod touch

I understand - but the main Scratch website doesn't even have a mobile version - so if they don't have it, we shouldn't necessarily rush to do it. I'm just saying...
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 01:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

This wiki has a custom skin - it might be hard to make, I'm not sure. :/ (insert siggy? who typed this?)

In preferences you can change the skin like all Wikis and Wikipedia. The only skin for this wiki though is specially Scratch. It could be Scratch Mobile. Might wanna sign your name, too. ~ ScratchDude101 ♦ talk ∆ contribs 18:41, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

*Technically* there are more skins, for example, there is a Wikipedia skin (see here), but yeah it's hidden :P.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 20:12, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Having a mobile version would be really cool, but it seems a bit odd (to me, at least). :P
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 07:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

That earlier post was me - it was part of my post, but I put an Enter to separate the two bits. ^_^
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:15, 23 July 2010 (UTC)