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So Sci just told me he thinks I ought to take a shot at being an admin. So...

I'd like to be a Wiki admin. There, I said it.

I'd make a good admin because:

• My Wikipediholic score is 1480.
• I edit a lot, and have more edits than Lucario. I have made and rewritten many articles, including Squeak Tutorial, my personal favorite. My grammar and knowledge about Scratch and programming are pretty good.
• I'd like the shiny new tools like deleting, protecting, editing protected pages, adding to the Wiki editor army, and defending the Wiki from evil, mean-spirited spammers (*gasp*).
• I'm a responsible Scratcher.
• Wiki Admin is a good title to flaunt. :D

I know I'm making a tall order, and I sincerely understand the responsibility I'm asking for. So thanks, and Scratch On! :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 15:38, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I think you would be a great admin. You have made many quality edits and are the non-admin editor with highest edit count.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)15:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Since you mentioned that i suggested it, everyone knows my take on it. :P

Some points i'd like to point out:

• Hardmath edits a lot, and edits more than Lucario.
• He makes all good edits
• He has the highest edit count of a non-admin, which is wrong, being 2500+.
• He (used to, at least) reminds the admins to update the news, which he could do on his own

And, that's it for now. No one can contest that you have a lot going for you. :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:59, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I have no doubt that you'd make a great admin and would use the tools well (and that you have more edits that Lucario, but come on, that's easy), but I feel like I need to ask the eternal question that everyone needs to answer: what, specifically, would you with do with the tools that are available to administrators to help the wiki that isn't already being done by the current admins who are pretty much on all the time due to their differing time-zones?
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 17:05, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, the deleting is a simple tool which to be honest I wish I had just because I need it once in a while. Protecting pages is one which I think I would mainly use on templates which are used a lot, like Template:User, and being able to edit protected pages is nice because I've been here for so long I know once in a while we do need to change a template for some reason. Also, as Sci stated above, I'd help out with the news and I'm pretty sure I'd keep it more informative than the current newsboard, because I'm very active on both the main site and forums. Also, I think the newsboard has deteriorated into just updates about curators and SDSs, and the occasional new mod. Having been on the Wiki for 436 days as of today, and not messing anything up that bad, you guys know you can trust me, don't you?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 00:25, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

For me, even how you've been outside the wiki, as well as inside, should be sufficient reason to be sysop. I hope you get it. :D. This also makes me think that maybe sci or one of the other sysops should become a bureaucrat.
SJRCS_011 (talk | contribs) 00:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks SJRCS_011 and Bsteward, I appreciate it. And yeah, Sci and Veggie would make great bureaucrats, too; I assumed they were when I first joined. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 00:54, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools, because apart from creating archives and updating the front page there isn't much where they're needed. I barely ever delete things, like the only times I use those powers is to archive the community portal :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 08:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't see any problems with you as an admin :P Being a sysop isn't really a big deal anyway.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 08:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Quote:

Author:	However it should be noted that actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users, and so it can be a good idea to dish out these extra permissions to a number of users in order to spread the workload of day-to-day sysop operations such as blocking vandals and deleting pages. make things more democratic, and decrease any perception of a single dictator running the community allow competent users the power they need to make progress with wiki refactoring. reward valued contributors/community members
Text:	“  ”
Source:	Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats

I think that once an user had contributed greatly to wiki, and has shown him/herself to be trustworthy editor, he/she should be promoted to sysop/admin.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)14:40, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Good find, Bsteward. (Hardmath is a boy btw.)

Also, let me remind Luc how i became a sysop, without even requesting... Quote:

Author:	He has been a very active editor recently, with over 2000 edits, and certainly has many uses for the administrative tools. Keep up the good work.
Text:	“ Lucario ”
Source:	User rights log

2000 edits at that time was more than Lucario, a bill Hardmath fits today. Very active editor? Check. Uses for the tools? Check. Reasons against? ._.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 14:47, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

So...?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:53, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I still don't see that you've given very good reasons. The first and last are quite irrelevant, you likely wouldn't be able to "add to the Wiki editor army", and there hasn't been any spamming & the only offences ever have been minor-ish vandalism which can still be cleaned up as a regular use. I don't really get why we'd need another admin for the news; we already have the active admins (me, Luc, Sci) and semi-active admins (Chris & Jon) able to do that. Any significant changes to the news require discussion first, anyway, which all of the wiki editors participate in. It just seems like more of a security risk especially on such a small wiki like this.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 03:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

You forgot WeirdF :P
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 05:34, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I don't consider him active.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 14:50, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Alright, I admit you don't need another sysop; you're right. But do I really need to prove I need the tools to be granted them? Isn't that kind of like asking users to prove they need to edit the Wiki to give them accounts? According to the quote Bsteward posted (BTW thanks, I appreciate it), sysop-ship seems to be both a reward and a responsibility. I'm not asking for just the title, but I just want to point out it's not entirely about just having a good use for the tools. Again, as a couple of sysops have posted above, they don't even use their powers that much. Finally, I don't see it as a "security risk", because I consider myself a responsible person on the whole. :/

Looking up at the discussion, it seems like Sci, SJRCS_011, BSteward are for, Chrischb and Jonathanpb are neutral (edit: Janathanpb is for) and you seem to be against. I think I'll ask Lucario to give the final verdict, since WeirdF is (I believe) inactive.

P.S. I'm not going to be really upset if you don't promote me, since I honestly didn't consider it until Sci encouraged me. Maybe I'll be a bit disappointed, but that's it. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Hardmath deserves the powers more than inactive or semi-active admins though... it's kinda unfair how some admins aren't very active and get to be a sysop while Hardmath is active and doesn't get it :/ (I'm for Hardmath being a sysop btw, count me in :P)
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 00:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Jonathanpb. Lucario? We haven't head from you yet...
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:16, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Reasons for Hardmath123 being admin:

• My Wikipediholic score is 1480. — Hardmath123
• I edit a lot, and have more edits than Lucario. I have made and rewritten many articles, including Squeak Tutorial, my personal favorite. My grammar and knowledge about Scratch and programming are pretty good. — Hardmath123
• I'd like the shiny new tools like deleting, protecting, editing protected pages, adding to the Wiki editor army, and defending the Wiki from evil, mean-spirited spammers (*gasp*). — Hardmath123
• I'm a responsible Scratcher. — Hardmath123
• Wiki Admin is a good title to flaunt. :D — Hardmath123
• You have made many quality edits and are the non-admin editor with highest edit count. — Bsteward
• Hardmath edits a lot, and edits more than Lucario. — Scimonster
• He makes all good edits — Scimonster
• He has the highest edit count of a non-admin, which is wrong, being 2500+. — Scimonster
• He (used to, at least) reminds the admins to update the news, which he could do on his own — Scimonster
• Well, the deleting is a simple tool which to be honest I wish I had just because I need it once in a while. — Hardmath123
• Protecting pages is one which I think I would mainly use on templates which are used a lot — Hardmath123
• Having been on the Wiki for 436 days as of today, and not messing anything up that bad, you guys know you can trust me — Hardmath123
• actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users, and so it can be a good idea to dish out these extra permissions to a number of users — Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats
• spread the workload of day-to-day sysop operations such as blocking vandals and deleting pages. — Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats
• make things more democratic, and decrease any perception of a single dictator running the community — Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats
• allow competent users the power they need to make progress with wiki refactoring. — Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats
• reward valued contributors/community members — Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats
• 2000 edits at that time was more than Lucario, a bill Hardmath fits today. — Scimonster
• Hardmath deserves the powers more than inactive or semi-active admins though... it's kinda unfair how some admins aren't very active and get to be a sysop while Hardmath is active and doesn't get it :/ — Jonathanpb

Reasons against Hardmath123 being admin:

• IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools, because apart from creating archives and updating the front page there isn't much where they're needed. — Chrischb
• I still don't see that you've given very good reasons. — Veggieman001
• Any significant changes to the news require discussion first, anyway, which all of the wiki editors participate in. — Veggieman001

My Comment: A discussion is not required to update for an SDS or Scratch Curator

• It just seems like more of a security risk especially on such a small wiki like this. — Veggieman001

My Comment: actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users

Although this list is a little biased, it seems that there are a lot more reasons for Hardmath to be an admin then him to not be one. I would like to see what a bureaucrat thinks about this.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)15:28, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow, i see you did some nice work there, Bsteward. Luc said he needed JSO to have a discussion about whether to do it. I haven't seen JSO on Scratch in a while though. :S
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 15:34, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

O RLY
JSO (talk | contribs) 17:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

YEAH RLY. How come you haven't responded to comments on your projects?

So, what's the verdict? Yes, and make everyone happy, or no, and disappoint people?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:20, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

omg jso stop trolin k
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:28, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

JSO? We're waiting...
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 14:46, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

I was responding to when Hardmath said "Also, I think the newsboard has deteriorated into just updates about curators and SDSs, and the occasional new mod." Those are the only reasons we update the news now, so if we were to change it to another format with more things then it would require discussion.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:24, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Wow, that really seems to put stuff into perspective. Thanks a lot, Bsteward, if I do become admin you're over 40% responsible. :) I suppose we just wait until Lucario and JSO think it over.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 00:43, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Lol, that bit where I said "IMO it doesn't really matter if you don't have a million cases in which you'd use those admin tools" I meant that as a reason for hardmath to be admin :P When posting that I was saying that I thought he should be an admin even if he doesn't need to use the tools a lot xD I guess it could be taken both ways though, but posting this to say I meant it that way
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 11:09, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey, it's Shadow. I haven't done anything on the wiki in months, but I'd just like to add that I think Hardmath would be a great canidate. In addition, updating the wiki once 2.0 is out will be a tall order, and you're going to want all the help you can get. Just an average user's opinion. :)
shadow_7283 (talk | contribs)

Thanks shadow, I appreciate it. Though you aren't just an average user in my opinion. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 01:11, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi shadow ^^
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 05:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

XD That sounds so awesome.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:29, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

So will he be made admin or not?
Bsteward (talk | contribs)03:14, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi everyone,

It’s a big misconception to see being an admin as a “reward” for your contributions to the wiki or being responsible, and even more so to see not being an admin as the lack of reward or appreciation of your involvement and contribution, or as a sign of being untrusted.

Being an admin is simply not a badge or “title to flaunt”. Accepting to give admin privileges as a title and reward for active contributions, would imply not giving this reward to anyone not having the title - both highly undesirable.

It’s also not something that is obtained systematically by matching any set of rules or criteria, such as contributing greatly to the wiki and being trustworthy. We might consider giving admin privileges to another user if admin tasks would be queuing up. ( “Bureaucrats” are a whole different topic - I’d rather just get rid of the role.)

And that’s where another problem lies - we currently just don’t need any more admins. This is not wikipedia, and a lot of the functions that admins have there involve dealing with vandalism and untrusted users - which we simply don’t have.

Finally, giving people admin privileges is not achieved by 1) asking for it or 2) pressuring the system administrators with popularity arguments.

I can imagine some of the features being useful at times - they all are, for everyone - so maybe we should consider giving some more privileges to all wikians who are, unlike on wikipedia, essentially trusted.

To conclude, I’m afraid that we’ll not give admin privileges to Hardmath123, and I sincerely hope you don’t see it as a lack of trust or appreciation for your efforts.

I really value all the hard work everyone puts into the Scratch Wiki - on a very big scale but also smaller contributions. Together we’re continuously building and improving a very good documentation source for Scratch, and the statistics prove it: every month about 14,000 people visit the wiki, reading around 90,000 pages.

All these people benefit from the hard work you put in - and knowing that they’re learning from your experience is actually much more of a reward than a title.
JSO (talk | contribs) 05:26, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks JSO. I never really expected this to be honest. I'd just like to clear up a couple of things. I never meant I wanted just the title. I was joking in the first post, and then Bsteward mentioned that in the docs it says adminship can be a reward. Second, I never intended to blackmail you. Where'd you think of that? Finally, I would like to point out that many users did become admins after asking. So it's kind of unfair for you to say that you don't become admin by asking. :/

Thanks everyone who supported me, especially Bsteward and Sci. I really appreciate. It was really heartwarming to see how much trouble you guys took to try to make this happen, and I'm sorry it didn't work out. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 07:17, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

Hi, Hardmath123. My use of the term "blackmailing" was both a mistake and not directed towards you. What I intended to say was that I don't think it's correct to use popularity of a certain decision as an argument to put pressure on the "bureaucrats" (although I mentioned earlier I don't like that term) to take it. You'll notice that I have modified my original post - not because I'm trying to cover my mistakes, but because it simply wasn't the message I was trying to bring. I hope that whoever reads the post from now better understands what I was trying to say.

You're correct about the way people became an admin in the past. I've never felt entirely comfortable with the way that happened, and I felt I had to try and change it at some point. Don't understand me wrong - our current admins are doing a very good job, and I'm convinced that you would do it just as well. I don't think everyone should become an admin only because they're qualified for the job.

Please think of the admin tools as a detail in the process of making your contributions. It is in no way a confirmation of trust, a reward or a prize. Whether or not you're an admin, your work is appreciated just as much - by us and by the huge amounts of people that learn from the wiki every day.
JSO (talk | contribs) 14:39, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand what you're are saying and agree with it although the help page Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats says:

Quote:

Author:	However it should be noted that actions of a sysop user are (almost) entirely reversible, by other sysop users, and so it can be a good idea to dish out these extra permissions to a number of users in order to spread the workload of day-to-day sysop operations such as blocking vandals and deleting pages. make things more democratic, and decrease any perception of a single dictator running the community allow competent users the power they need to make progress with wiki refactoring. reward valued contributors/community members
Text:	“ Lucario621 ”
Source:	Help:Assigning permissions#Promoting users to Sysops and Bureaucrats

This seems to contradict what you just said and should probably be changed.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)00:32, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Just so you know, Luc didn't write that; it comes from here.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, JSO, I'm glad you weren't targeting the comment about blackmailing at me. Whew. You're right about admin-ship not being a reward, just like being a community moderator isn't a reward for good Scratching (or we'd have five dozen moderators on our hands). I never meant to say it was, either. You ought to change the help page there though; it blatantly contradicts us...

I suppose I agree about how the popularity of a certain decision shouldn't force you to do it, though in this case I've gotta say all but two people (you and Veggieman) were against, and that's a rather steep majority (considering all admins except WeirdF expressed their thoughts). So, now you know who to promote when you need a hand with some huge admin job. :)
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 07:22, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Possible News Event

The SDS Curator system just moved to a 4-month rotational system (along with permanent curators), and two new curators were added (JustAnotherFace and angelica101). Is this newsworthy enough for a spot on the main page?
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 12:09, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I never heard anything about this until just now. Who are the permanents?

I think it's OK, but i want someone else's opinion first.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:13, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

It's all of us SDS Curators who were active before the rotations started. We get to train the regular DS curators before they officially start. So, ATM, it's you, JJROCKER, stevetheipad, and me.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 12:19, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Just one thing: Do i really get counted as active? That's generous. Also, all mods have SDS permissions, so do i still need to be counted? (And you removed poopo from the list. Did he, the first SDS curator that i know of, retire?)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:27, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Yep, as of now you do. I haven't seen sparks active in a long while, and I think I only saw pokemongardevoir once in the time I've been a curator, let alone poopo or lilacfuzz101.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 12:35, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure if this is newsworthy (yet), because I don't see where this has been mentioned on the main Scratch Website. After all, the Scratch Team's info page about curators here hasn't changed at all - and there's no announcement topic about it. If there's any posts about this by the ST or Curator team though, it would definitely help. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 20:06, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, there's this post about it... xP

I asked on the "SDS curator discussion board" (aka http://scratch.mit.edu/projects/Lightnin/2133983), and Lightnin was explaining to me how it'll work. I just asked when this was/will be implemented, and now i'm waiting for an answer.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:05, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Template:Wiki Standards

I think this is a very useful template to put on articles. It clearly indicates that an article needs improvement, with the reason being for poor formatting and wiki markup - which is usually quite easy to fix. However I think there are some ways this template can be improved.

• Change the color - I personally think that since this template is very similar to {{stub}} and {{expand}} in the sense that it's encouraging users to improve upon articles, it should colored blue, like the others.
• Categorize the articles its used on - I think it would be great since if there are new wiki editors who are wondering where they can help on the wiki, it would be a useful place to start. Although clicking "Random Page" and looking for problems can suffice for some, improving a bare-bones article to a greater version is very rewarding, and would motivate newcomers to edit more - especially as its a simpler task. For example, this article could use some editing help - and a new member could easily see "Oh, I can add bullet points to the list of members... and add an extra sentence to this section", or if they're more experienced, "This could use the {{collaboration}} template!"

What are your thoughts on these ideas? Please leave them as a response below. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 03:08, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Another big reason i add it to articles is if it's written like a form post, not an encyclopedic wiki article, such as Make Better Cartoons. (Maybe you should add plainlinks to your "external link"? :))

As for the color, i debated it, but decided that it also a "bad page" template and should be more eyecatching. Stub and expand usually mean it's a article that has some content, generally written OK, but could use more. At least, that's how i see it.

I suppose categorizing should be done. I think i made the template at a time when we were debating auto-categorization.

Oh, and since you pointed it out, i might as well go clean up The Bit Company. ;P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 08:29, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I added the bullets for you. :)

Anyway, I agree with Lucario here. Not matching Wiki standards is more of a "do something here" than a "serious problem here". It should tell you to fix it, not inform you it needs to be, if that makes an ounce of sense.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:24, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Huh?

Yeah, makes sense. :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:28, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I changed the template based on what Lucario said.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)

Thanks Bsteward. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 04:43, 16 August 2012 (UTC)

New curator

The news needs to be updated.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:07, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for notifying us! I've updated the news. :) (Also thanks for updating the Curator article.)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 04:13, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 14:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

It needs to be updated again. The curator is Hardmath123 (by the way, I updated the wiki)
Scratcher5000 (talk | contribs)11:51, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

Noooooooo! You beat me to it -- I wanted to do it! How did you get to it within an hour of the curator switch?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 00:23, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I sometimes get it within ten minutes. (if i'm curator, i'm gonna do it
Coinman (talk | contribs) 13:14, 28 August 2012 (UTC)

I've cracked the Disappearing Text Bug!

I think we've resolved the Disappearing Text Bug. It turns out that it's not actually a bug in the Scratch program, but an issue with the Windows server, and Ubuntu Linux. Here are some clues:

• I never get the bug or a similar issue on Mac OS X, and neither does Joletole. :)
• A similar issue happened on Word 2003 at BB6, room 110. :O
• Some Scratchers got the bug in pre-1.3 versions, such as 1.0.1. :(
• It can happen on Linux. :(
• One Scratcher got an issue related to disappearing images! :O

So Scratch 2.0 probably won't fix/avoid the bug. The bug might just be less effective.
3sal2 (talk | contribs) 16:11, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

It will fix the bug, because the issue is with Windows/Linux and Squeak. This issue does not happen with Flash.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 16:29, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Although I'm glad to see this new info that can possibly be added to the Disappearing Text Bug article, this is a post that best fits in the forums. The community portal is for discussing wiki questions/comments/issues, and not general Scratch topics.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 03:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Notifications on the Wiki

I modified Sci's Script so it now shows notifications on the Scratch Wiki. Go ahead and download and try it out. Don't forget to remove the old one if you decide to try my version.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)14:54, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Wiki doesn't work for me... :/ If you look at Sci's talk page, you'll see I asked for this.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 15:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Did you remove the old one and download the new one? What browser are you using? It works great for me on with Chrome on Ubuntu.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)16:08, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

It does not work. Cross domain security i guess. :S
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:21, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

What browser/OS are you using.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)21:34, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Here is what happens when I run my version of the script. What happens when you run it?
Bsteward (talk | contribs)02:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Nothing. Nothing happens.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 10:27, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Same. Firefox on Lubuntu.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:07, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Lubuntu?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:11, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, Lubuntu. veggie uses it, and he suggested it to me. So i'm trying it out. I'll probably stick with it, because switching OSes is a pain.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Also, your userscript seems to de-focus the text boxes/textareas after load. It's kind of annoying. :/
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 13:51, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

I tested it in Firefox and it doesn't work:( I guess it runs the script differently than Chrome does.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)14:18, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Works for me in Chromium on Windows XP with the default wiki skin. I'm guessing it's an FF issue.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Getting rid of unused pages

We have a long list of pages marked not useful. I think we should go through and decide to keep or delete these pages.

Page Name	Deleting?
Category:Scratch Morphs	Not Decided
File:Crimson Love.gif	Deleted
Drawing Animations	Not Decided
Make Better Cartoons	Not Decided
File:My Voice to You.gif	Deleted
Scrolling Background	Not Decided
See Inside	Deleted
User:Sku2000/Sandbox	User subpage; no delete
Stamps	Not Decided
File:When I'm Beside You.gif	Won't delete
File:Sig Bsteward.png‎	Delete, Bsteward's request
File:Sig Bsteward talk.png	Delete, Bsteward's request
File:Sig Bsteward contribs.png	Delete, Bsteward's request

Bsteward (talk | contribs)14:48, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Updated!
Joletole (talk | contribs) 16:29, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

We should delete Stamps
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:27, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not deleting any of the actual pages until there's been an actual discussion about them, about why they should go or stay.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:39, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Moved See Inside's content to the Scratch 2.0 article and deleted the page.
Chrischb (talk | contribs) 10:59, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I think both Scrolling Background and Stamps could be merged with other articles.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 05:51, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, me to. Stamps should probably be merged with Pen, or just deleted. Because the Stamp (Block page already explains everything about stamps. The scrolling background could be merged with Scrolling, as Scrolling explains about Scrolling, then Scrolling Background should be in there too. There is not reason to have to go to a completely different page just to learn about the same topic. (Sorry if that was confusing.)
Joletole (talk | contribs) 12:13, 24 August 2012 (UTC)

Maybe instead of deleting stamps, we could change the name to "Stamping"?
Coinman (talk | contribs) 13:38, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

Drawing animation is more of a drawing tutorial :/
Coinman (talk | contribs) 10:51, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I have 200 edits!!!!

I finally got 200 edits! Can i add myself BWOG's edit rankings?
Coinman (talk | contribs) 10:54, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations. :P Sure, you can do that. Now see if you can get as many as any of the admins, a feat only Hardmath has accomplished. ;)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:53, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I added myself. I almost have as many as andresmh
Coinman (talk | contribs) 13:19, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

I now have more than andresmh (i updated the chart).
Coinman (talk | contribs) 14:23, 31 August 2012 (UTC)

Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 32 isn't protected

The archive Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 32 isn't protected for some reason.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 15:06, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Even practiced admins sometimes forget. :)

Thanks for mentioning it, coinman.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:59, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Your welcome
Coinman (talk | contribs) 19:36, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Deleting some of the http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/Special:UnusedFiles

Since the new block plugin, a lot of files are unused. Maybe an admin should delete some of those.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 13:21, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a strange bug with some files that prevents us from deleting them :S I'll have another go at it though.
Jonathanpb (talk | contribs) 06:02, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

300 edits!!!!!!!

I did more than a hundred edits in five days !!!
Coinman (talk | contribs) 22:53, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Congrats!

I remember when i made over 100 in two days; it was on a project similar to you editing workaround sections; i added default values to the {{Block}} templates (which were removed a few months ago).
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:14, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

News Item

http://scratch.mit.edu/forums/viewtopic.php?id=105783 Admins?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 13:13, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Not every thread in Announcements requires a news item, and I don't really think this one does. The news isn't really pertinent to most Scratchers (yet) and it's pretty technical.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 15:52, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

Maybe it could just go on S:CE and not the main page?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:57, 9 September 2012 (UTC)

News Event

There is a new flash player, someone needs to update the news.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 17:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I was just coming to do that. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:12, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

lol
Coinman (talk | contribs) 17:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

New Curator

The news needs to be updated.
Coinman (talk | contribs) 21:36, 10 September 2012 (UTC)