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Wiki Template after 2.0 update

Currently the Scratch Wiki uses a template based on the Scratch Website. When the website is updated will the Scratch wiki update it's template to match the new website?
Bsteward (talk | contribs)22:24, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

The short answer:

Yes.

The long answer:

Yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

It's already mostly done.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:57, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Wiki 2.0

Why does the wiki keep switching back and forth between the really nice layout of 2.0, and the old layout of 1.4.
Joletole (talk | contribs) 17:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Idk. Have any userscripts installed?
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 17:55, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Pseudo-anchoring?

Can I make a fake anchor (subsection) with Wiki markup? I want my template to automatically create a new subsection, but I don't want to use the "=" header shortcuts. Is there any way to do that?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 15:58, 11 May 2012 (UTC) Also, while I'm at it, how do you make an expandable/collapsible div like in the navbox template?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 16:38, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Just type <span id="test">text</span> - and link to it with [[#test]] within the article, and [[Article#test]] within another article.

As for the navboxes, try this (edit the page to see the code):

Simple collapsible table
Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet

This page might have some extra info (however I don't think we have everything mentioned there). I hope that helps! :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 03:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, guys (sorry about the late response, I must have missed these edits. I guess I should add the community portal to my watchlist; is that weird?
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 09:47, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Nah, i have that too. But i review most edits anyways. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:32, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Scratch Return Statements

Does anyone know if Scratch 2.0 will feature return statements? I want to write an article about it if so. If not, I still want to write an article about it as it should and probably will be included in Scratch in the future.
Dazman (talk | contribs) 07:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm pretty sure Scratch (2.0) won't support custom reporters (as per our Wiki article). So no.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 07:58, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

It won't be a custom reporter block, its simply a method/procedure that returns a value. If you know object oriented programming, then you will understand what I mean.
Dazman (talk | contribs) 08:06, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

But only reporters can report something anyway... :/
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 11:10, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, functions with return values would be reporters which return a variable. Otherwise, what would it do with the data?
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 14:51, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

   public int addTen(int i) {
       int i2 = i + 10
       return i2;
   }

I mean something like this. In scratch block terms it would be something like this:

   On flag clicked
   
   Repeat for (addTen(10)) {
       Move 10 Steps
   }

And it would repeat the process 20 times. Since its 10 added to 10.
Dazman (talk | contribs) 19:38, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what you mean. Those would be reporters with inputs, as I said.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 19:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh and PS you could just do

   public int addTen(int i) {
       return i+10;
   }

Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 19:43, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, the idea is for it not to be just a reporter but to be able to do things also.
Dazman (talk | contribs) 22:08, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't think Scratch 2.0 will support that, but it would be cool to have a "return" block. That way, you could make stack blocks and reporters. Sounds like this needs to be in "suggestions" :D
MoreGamesNow (talk | contribs) 22:37, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, to answer the question, not yet.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:17, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

LEGO Mindstorms NXT

We got a request on the forums for a LEGO Mindstorms NXT article. Volunteers? :)
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 18:22, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I've done some work w/ the NXT, but I'm not quite sure what the article is supposed to be about?
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 18:41, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I will go ahead and write the article since I have done quite a bit with Lego Mindstorms, but it doesn't seem very related to Scratch. The only way that I can think it related to Scratch is Enchanting (Scratch Modification).
Bsteward (talk | contribs)19:29, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Done! I did it but it would be good for others to look it over and expand it.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)19:53, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

What about NXT 2.0?
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 13:37, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead and add information about it.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)20:11, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Done! : )
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 12:43, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, Bsteward!
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:42, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Unused file cleanup

To help clean up the unused file list I think we should put all of the pictures that can not be deleted on a single page like Scratch Wiki: Broken Images.
Bsteward (talk | contribs)23:28, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

We already have that.

Edit: Oh, you mean a page. Nah, you could just check the file.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

How do you...

Make a template that is a subpage of a page i.e. my user page?
Wolvesstar97 (talk | contribs) 19:12, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Just create the page at the URL, and transclude it.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 19:26, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

LLK Scratch-Related Projects

Should we have articles about the Lifelong Kindergarten group's Scratch-related projects? I can add a bunch if we need to.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 23:49, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Yes, if there's actually enough information about them available. If you're curious what merits "enough info", just ask here I guess.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:02, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

How about the official website? :3
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 00:11, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Uh, what? You mean the LLK site? That doesn't really need its own article.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 00:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

No, I meant the info on the site.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 00:44, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Each has a different amount of information available; I meant for each specific project.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 04:59, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I meant the information available on the LLK site for each project.
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 12:38, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Take a look at this.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

That's why it really depends. Things like S4SL and Scratch Jr. that I recently made pages for actually have quite a bit of information, whereas others like Scratch for Computer Science have nearly none.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 13:25, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree.

I think a rule of thumb could be, if it's long enough to be not a stub, you can make an article on it.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:37, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. And it's kind of alright if it's sorta a stub right now if it's definitely in active development.
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 13:40, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, if it's actively being developed and will later have more info, then it can get an article.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 13:42, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

So; for example, if I wanted to make an article on Watch Me Move (the webcam Kinect thing), would it have enough info since the beta comes out tomorrow?
Technoboy10 (talk | contribs) 13:52, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Probably once the beta comes out there'll be enough information, as you can talk about the blocks and how they work as well. :)
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 14:09, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Which article and image

We should feature an article and image about the new features. Which ones? :P The articles to choose from are:

• Cloud Data (but users can't create their own in the preview, because they can't login and save)
• Procedures (quite possibly)
• Cloning (also, maybe)
• Backpack
• Watch me Move/Video Sensing (coming soon)

We could also use some new images of 2.0 that people take.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 07:45, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I vote we feature BackPack, because that's the most "2.0-specific" feature. There is no BackPack in any other Mod, you can't make a new block for it; it's a completely new thing which we're going to experience.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 10:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I also vote for backpack (I am not voting it because I created that article, just the same reason as Hardmath123).
Joletole (talk | contribs) 11:10, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Backpack it'll be then. :) I'll add an image to the article in a minute.

For an image, i think we should either use the define hat block (procedures), or Pico, Tera, Nano, and Giga (new sprites, called "Gobo's friends").
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 11:17, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

How did you get into the alpha?
Bsteward (talk | contribs)11:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

He's a mod.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:14, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I see, I am so excited, just 45 minutes!
Bsteward (talk | contribs)12:16, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Yep. :P And it's 38 minutes. I'll upload the image of them anyways. :P
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:22, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

What do you think of them? :3
Scimonster (talk | contribs)

I think the picture of Pico, Tera, Nano, and Giga would be fine. :)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:28, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I sense some edit conflicts soon

On the Scratch 2.0 page when they let you try the prototype in 1 hour. :P
BWOG (talk | contribs) 12:01, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah. So I'll do the whole thing, nobody else edit it! :P
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:13, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Not so fast!

How about people upload their images, and i add them to the 2.0 page? xP
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:19, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Nah, I'm more of a writer (hey grant me that!) so I'll so the heavy duty typing. Getting serious (as much as I hate it), though, maybe we should make a sort of Sndbox page where everyone pours in infor; because I see a clear disaster with everyone stuffing info into one page. Maybe even a new article just on this alpha prototype.
Hardmath123 (talk | contribs) 12:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I think people will just wait their turn to edit. And it's not all in the 2.0 page, it's also on the articles on specific features.
Scimonster (talk | contribs) 12:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Should we perhaps have a page just on the alpha, for information specific to it?
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 13:27, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I think a section on the Scratch 2.0 article about the prototype and what features it includes would be okay.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 22:20, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

But the screenshot potential!
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 22:29, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

I suppose you could create a "gallery" article of Scratch 2.0 prototype pictures. But I don't think an article about the prototype itself is needed. After all, the Scratch 2.0 pre-alpha doesn't have an article. ;)
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 23:39, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

That should get an article too :>
Veggieman001 (talk | contribs) 23:59, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

In that case, you can try making the articles. But if they end up just being stubs, then we might have to remove them.
Lucario621 (talk | contribs) 21:47, 18 May 2012 (UTC)