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Unfinished discussions

Why won’t this table work?

No Not done

Link: User:Waffle_Iron_Studios/ScratchNet shop page
Waffle_Iron_Studios (talk | contribs) 21:20, 23 February 2020 (UTC)

I think it's because the table does not have any line-breaks. See this.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:14, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

Tell users on Wiki Wednesday topics not to spam in replies

When Wiki Wednesdays are mentioned on the Scratch News on the homepage, some users' replies contain spam such as blockspam.

I suggest that at the end of each Wiki Wednesday initial post, it should say that when replying, users should not spam. It could also give the definition of what is considered spam (such as offtopic blocks, gibberish, emoji testing, etc.), so users will less likely be confused about what spam is (other than the food product of the same name), that spam could be reported, and that block testing and project advertisements go in the Forum blocks testing topic and the Show and Tell forum respectively.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 09:23, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

It's a good idea - and I agree with you, but I think that's not a exact solution manner. As an example, lots of announcements and sticky topics (Wiki Forum Community Portal) are getting blockspam; some people, like me, TenType, SausageMcSausage or ST, warn them, but I see a new spam everyday when I check Wiki Forum Community Portal. Also, nobody don't write aggressive posts for warn users; for example, don't write "DON'T MAKE BLOCKSPAM OR SOMEBODY MAY WARN YOU(ME OR ANYBODY ELSE)". I think WW could include a link to here.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
11:14, 25 June 2020 (UTC)

Discussion Invitation System

Yes Done

Hi folks! On the topic of reviving S:CPND, I have another suggestion. My previous suggestion (collapsing discussions) got implemented, but it is a very minor change. As someone who usually updates the featured images, I was thinking about a discussion that I personally would like people to participate in, Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Suggestion: Scratch Wiki:Featured Image Suggestions. That specific discussion has been going on since August 2018 and it hasn't yet come to a conclusion.

I think I've come up with something that may help solve the Not Done problem. Well, I didn't exactly come up with it, because I got the idea from Wikipedia's Feedback request service. As I understand it, with Wikipedia's Feedback request service, when a discussion needs an outside editor to provide comment, a bot comments on the talk page of someone who has added their name to the list. I'd like to make it clear: my suggestion would not require a bot. Wikipedia needs stuff like that because it's giant.

Basically, when a discussion is going stale or needs a few more editors to provide feedback, a proactive editor can comment the Discussion Invitation template (currently at User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/Template) on a few user talk pages of people who have signed up to be invited to discussions.

Here are some examples of when this would be useful:

  • For asking editors to participate in a S:CP or S:CPND discussion that has gone inactive or that has a deadline
  • For asking editors their opinion on a discussion on the talk page of an article that only a few people are participating in

I think this will help with more than reviving S:CPND, though — it will help on any discussion that isn't getting the attention it deserves.

I've decided to start this program up in my userspace, though if people like it maybe it can be moved to project space (the Scratch Wiki namespace). The list of people who have signed up is currently at User:Bigpuppy/Discussion Invitation System/List (as of writing, only me). If you'd like to sign up, please do!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 18:53, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

I think this is a great idea!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 19:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
It could be a good idea, but I'm not sure that it's really matter. As you said before, Wikipedia is a big place and a lot of discussion creators in S:CPND is inactive/quitted Scratch. Also, I think a lot of the discussions are not necessary. For example, are you think "Secret Compliments" important today? Also, asqwde has been inactive since 8 months.
I'm supporting main idea, also it can be helpful for usual stuffs, but also nobody cannot use it for old Not Done topics. Additionally, I suggest another idea; Scratch Wiki could have multiple portals. For example; Scratch Modifications portal, Extensions portal, etc. Maybe not for now, but it could be helpful when discussions are too much.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
20:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
Well, I don't think that it matters that some people in S:CPND are inactive; that doesn't mean their discussions aren't relevant anymore. As for the discussions that you don't think are relevant anymore, like "Secret Compliments," you should discuss that in the appropriate section at S:CPND and make sure people agree with you. You could get people to add to the discussion on whether they are relevant anymore using the system I suggested ;)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 20:08, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
I just used the system on the talk pages of the two people (other than me) who signed up:
Keep in mind that in the future, people would not message everyone on the list (because hopefully lots of people sign up!), but rather message the number of people that they need.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 01:26, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
I'm happy to see people using the system already! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:09, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
Also, I added {{open userpage}} to all of the Discussion Invitation System pages except the template, so feel free to improve any of them!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:25, 30 June 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Oh yes, I remember when I first suggested that. I was thinking about it recently actually - what a coincidence!

I would like to add my name to the list, however one quick thing: why do we link to our Scratch profiles and not our Wiki profiles, or perhaps our Wiki talk page? Surely linking to our userpage would make a lot more sense, unless there is a specific reasoning for not doing this that I am not understanding.

In any case, I think this is a fantastic idea. Glad to see it's working already! Thanks for taking this on, bigpuppy. :)
border=3px Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Where do people link to their Scratch profiles? On the list page, we are using the {{user}} template, which adds a link to the user's userpage and talk page. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Wait, nevermind. I saw {{users}} in the code, and mistook it to be the new [[users:]] interwiki, which points to their Scratch profile. Whoops!
border=3px Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 23:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ How did I completely miss this? I've moved everything into official namespaces and cleaned up stuff a bit. Thanks for proposing!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:51, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! This CP topic is now Yes Done. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 03:08, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

More Featured Images!

Yes Done

The featured images were just updated, so does anyone have any new suggestions for next time? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 03:58, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Here's two images: 1 and 2. I don't know if these have been used in the past or not. Maybe we should start keeping a list. Is there any rule against reusing images?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 03:37, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
If images have the {{featured}} template on them, they have been used before. That said, there may have been some times where we forgot to add that template.
As for whether there's a rule against re-using images, I'm not sure, though I'm guessing the {{featured}} template doesn't support such a case currently.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 17:06, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! Before I thought that the template was only for WW articles.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 18:03, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
Since no one else gave any suggestions, here's three more: 1 2 3
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 01:15, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
Groko13, which three of these do you think should be featured? I personally think File:Transparent Stamps.png, File:Gobo Keychain.jpg, and File:Video Sensing Extension.jpeg would be good. Do you think so as well, or do you have a different opinion? :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:39, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
Sure, that sounds good! Thanks for updating the images! :)
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 17:00, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Yes Done, if you see an error please let me know. Thanks for suggesting these! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:11, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

Archive 106

First, sorry for not appearing on this Wiki! I'm kinda busy on jawiki and other stuff. Anyway it's the 106th archive time!

Things to archive:

Can these be archived as well?

Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 17:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Yay! 10milemoji.png Out of your "can these be archived as well" topics, here are the ones that I think can be archived:
If you disagree with any of those, please say so.
That leaves these ones that I'm not too sure about:

Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 18:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I archived the finished and inactive discussions.
maybe I archived so fast
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:33, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Ahmetlii, I think you archived some that shouldn't have been archived... such as: "Require custom welcome messages to be transcluded" (edit conflict with Ahmetlii)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 18:35, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Also, I think the admins (like Ken) are supposed to do the actual archiving?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 18:36, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
oopsI came Jammum's topic to here again.also edit conflict
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
There are some others too; I'm currently looking through the archive.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 18:45, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

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Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
18:59, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Archived S:CPSYS
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:26, 10 July 2020 (UTC)


Yes Done

Can someone please help me find the problem at S:CPND? Everything is being collapsed by one of the topics... :/
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

I'm not sure why {{collapse bottom}} is not working at the bottom of Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done#Embedding of Scratch Projects...
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:37, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Looking in the page history, before this edit, everything seems normal. However, the problem is, there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with that edit, and I don't remember it being like this since that edit. Sometimes I just really dislike wiki formatting. :/ Thanks for trying to help fix it.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:41, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Very strange, is the signature messing the page up somehow?
TenType (talk | contribs) 19:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
I tried removing all instances of Ahmetlii's custom signature in my sandbox, and it kind of fixed the problem, but really just moved it to a different topic. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:51, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
To everyone — free to edit my sandbox to try to find out what the problem is. Rules against editing posts don't apply there, so please don't copy and paste from there into S:CPND. This is purely to identify the problem.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:53, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
So, something I did in User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox fixed the problem. I removed a lot of people's custom signatures. The problem was fixed when I removed this code, I think:
<span title="{{Special:EditCount/Eribetra}} edits since 26/1/2017" style="color:#0000ff;font-family:Segoe UI, sans-serif;display:inline">{{#ifeq:|nobr||<br/>}}[[File:Eribetra%27s_Profile_Picture.gif|20px|link=User:Eribetra]]{{nbsp}}{{link style|User:Eribetra|color:black;font-weight:normal|text=Eribetra}}{{nbsp}}<span style="border:1px solid black"><span style="border:1px solid black">{{nbsp}}{{link style|User talk:Eribetra|color:black;font-weight:normal|text=Talk}}{{nbsp}}</span><span style="border:1px solid black">{{nbsp}}{{link style|Special:Contributions/Eribetra|color:black;font-weight:normal|text=Contribs}}{{nbsp}}</span></span></span> 21:23, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
This is the code of Eribetra's custom signature — not sure why it wasn't transcluded.
The problem is, when I tried to remove just that code, it didn't fix the problem.
So I fixed the problem in my sandbox, now we just need to isolate what I did to fix it. :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 20:15, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Alright, I know for sure that there is something in User:Ahmetlii/sig that is causing trouble. Look at User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 3, then look at its source code.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 20:43, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Alright, I think I've fixed the issue!! 10milemoji.png
I think there were two things causing this:
  1. Something with the formatting of the "custom signatures" section. I don't know what, but if you read that discussion, Ken has tried to fix it as well.
  2. Something in Ahmetlii's custom signature.
I fixed the problem by:
  1. Moving the "custom signatures" section to its own subpage, Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Not Done/custom signatures.
  2. Reverting Ahmetlii's custom signature to a previous version. I think it's okay that I edited userspace because the custom signature was adversely affecting other pages, though please correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:19, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
10milemoji.png Good work!
TenType (talk | contribs) 21:29, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
Good job bigpuppy! 10milemoji.png
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 14:26, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Talking through the mouse

Yes Done

I just want to know how you edit code so you can talk through someone's mouse. I've seen a lot of people doing it and I would love to know how!
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 10:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

You can use the <span title> property β€” for example, <span title="Hi! I'm talking through your mouse!>Hover over this text!</span> makes Hover over this text!
You can also do the same thing with <div title>; for example, <div title="Hi! I'm talking through your mouse!>Hover over this text!</div> makes
Hover over this text!

Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
OK, thanks bigpuppy! I'll give it a go in my sandbox. Just had a go and it all works! Thanks, again.
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 18:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Uploading Problems...

Yes Done
So, if you look here, you'll see my current profile picture on the scratch wiki. But it isn't working? The blue rounded rhombus square thing around it isn't loading. I've tried a lot, but it's not letting me use the one with the blue outline. I can't tell if I should just stick to the original non-rounded one, or is there something I can do. I've tried reverting it to older ones with the border, but it still won't work. I'm wondering if you can help me with this.
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 15:23, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

It seems to work for me! Could you try to define what isn't loading a bit more clearly? I'll do my best!
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 15:39, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
For me the original one (the one without the rhombus) shows up, even when it's supposed to be using the rhombus one. So it looks like it has no rhombus around it. Does it show differently for you?
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 15:46, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes, I can see the rhombus. Maybe your device needs updating?
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 15:50, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Great, thanks! I might try logging out and into my account again. :D
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 15:53, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
*facepalm* Or I could just clear my cache. Okay, fixed! (I realised that just now I should hard refresh the page)
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 15:57, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Wow! I didn't know that I could actually fix a problem! Anyway, I'm glad it's fixed! ;)
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 16:01, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

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FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 16:06, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

No problem! And considering I'm only a New Wikian(I've been here for 8 days) that's pretty good!
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 16:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Some wikicode not working?

So my welcome template, which is here, has a border around it like this.


And with that, I made the whole welcome template in there. So far it was fine, but then I tried to do this - (not in the collapse it's just so it's smaller)

And the hello is supposed to be outside the box, plus the </div> is supposed to be outside the box and not show up? Idk, can someone look at the code and figure it out? Thanks if someone figures it out!
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 18:56, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

I think any issues you are having are because you seem to have forgotten to close a span tag. See User:Bigpuppy/Sandbox 2. Did closing it fix the problems?
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Oh, I had another span tag open? Ah, thanks! I'll try and fix that now. :) Update from future me - It worked! (How did I not notice that..) Thanks!
FoxPFP.svg foxlife37 | talk | contribs 19:04, 16 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:12, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Allow user-based scripts in Scratch Wiki

In last days, I developed a script for send S:DIS messages. So, I need to get permission for use and publish codes of the script - because I designed it for send messages, but specifically for Scratch Wiki. What do you think about that, should we use it or not?

Note Note: Also, this is the first topic about the usability of userscripts(not bots)

Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
14:00, 20 July 2020 (UTC)

Personally, I don't mind allowing user-based scripts, but it is a good point to bring up for discussion. If there's no rules against it and you're doing things that the API allows, then it's probably okay (and it's all tied to your account, right? Letting anonymous users edits pages with bots would be pretty bad). I would definitely get a bureaucrat's approval though.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 20:49, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
For your question, yes, anonymous IPs or bots(if they are not approved by bureaucrats) cannot edit the Wiki through the API. So, if someone wants to use this tool, all of the responsibilities are on the user.
Actually, I'm concerned about for bureaucrats' opinions, because this is the first discussion about semi-automatic editors, etc.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
21:03, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
(This level of indentation is to reply to OP.)
You say you need to get permission to use the script - and yet you used it without permission?
User bots (different from userscripts) are completely disallowed. You must request a bot account to perform regular automated tasks. Your run of your bot was completely against guidelines.
That's not to say that userscripts (that is, Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey/similar-style JavaScript files or user JS files) are disallowed - only that API access from a user account is not allowed unless you have been approved to test your implementation of a bot you requested.
We bureaucrats are currently discussing whether we should disable API write access to all non-bot/EW accounts and if so how to allow it for users that are approved to test implementations.
What that basically means is you can use a userscript or user JS to prefill the text of your new topic for you, but you must make your edit through the user interface, not the application programming interface, unless you do so through a bot account or in the course of testing your implementation.
Please either make a bot request, switch to a userscript, or dismantle your project.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:33, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

Edit Count JSON?

I don't really know how much relevance this has here but I was wondering if how I would get a user's edit count in JSON format. Where would that be located? Is there some API I should be using or something? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  02:28, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done Got a answer somewhere else
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  23:40, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Looks like I was too late for answer, but did you use ?format for it?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
23:45, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Red text on popups for links?

I'm trying to be more active now :D
When hovering over a link, I see red text in it instead of black text, or the color that is supposed to be there. I looked at my User:12944qwerty/common.css and I removed the color:red part of it and refreshed cache but it is still present? Or is it supposed to be like this (which I doubt). This is what it appears for me: https://ibb.co/NT1ymNZ
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  04:32, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

This may happen because the linked page doesn't exist anymore. Is this the case for your links? Can you link the troublesome pages please?
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  17:31, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
It's happened to me before and the reason was the link did not exist as I had made a mistake in the code. I assume this is the reason for your problem too. It is probably because the page has been deleted for some reason or that you made the same mistake as me.
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 17:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Hmm, that's odd. It's not like that for me. The text that isn't red is the right color though.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 17:48, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
All links (other than external) show up like that. They're all existing 100%. All links, including S:CP, S:CPND, etc are showing up like that for me.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  20:05, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Maybe try a different device if you can and see if that fixes it?
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 21:30, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
Even if it were to fix it, which I doubt as it seems to be an account problem (and it works properly on the wiki), I'd like the wiki to be able to work on all devices.
I checked Special:Preferences but there isn't anything there.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:44, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
I'm going to need more reproduction information than that. I don't see anything out of the ordinary - hovering over your S:CP link behaves correctly with correct colors. I notice in your screenshot that only list items are red, while paragraphs are fine.
Sniff around with Inspect Element. Where is the styling that makes it red computed?
In the meantime, what's your browser and OS?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
20:09, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

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I'm starting to see your point, but when I hover over my User:12944qwerty page I see this https://i.ibb.co/tQmvzQc/image.png . The CP's header is red for me, but all the other text is normal as you said.
Google Chrome OS Version 83.0.4103.119 (Official Build) (64-bit)
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  15:36, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

On further exploration, I've noticed that this mainly happens on MY pages. I haven't seen red text on anyone else's pages except for the headers, which are red.
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  17:32, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
I have switched to my other computer, and I still see the EXACT same thing. This is definitely an account problem
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  14:20, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Assumming, you're using ScratchWikiSkin, it's this CSS page. I added it to my common.css and it did the same thing for me.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 14:36, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Omg, I completely forgot about that page. I deleted the contents and it works! Thank you so much! Yes Done
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  19:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Where should I discuss things related to the Test Wikis if I am not a user on it?

Yes Done
I wanted to discuss something involving one of the Test Wikis. However, I am not a Test Wiki editor (and I am not planning to join it because I am not fluent in any other language). Where should I discuss Test Wiki related topics?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:57, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

I think you should start a forum post so you can discuss it on the main scratch website, as I think it would be off-topic to put it here or somewhere else.
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 17:14, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
The Test Wikis are owned by the same owners of the Scratch Wiki. Also, I am going to wait for other users to answer this.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:17, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
The Wiki forum topic is an appropriate place, I'd say.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
20:12, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Your welcome to post on any of the international administrators talk pages and we'd be happy to answer a question or transfer your comment to the test-wiki community portal if appropriate.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:49, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for your replies. I am going to go with what Ken wrote, so this topic is now Yes Done
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 05:57, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday! July 30th, 2020

Welcome to the 30th Thankful Thursday! July 30th, 2020.

What is Thankful Thursday?

Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive! :)

How to Thank

We have a whole wiki page on it! :D You can find it here: Thankful Thursday


The Thanks are *drum roll please*

Bananaandchoc1 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for improving so many articles, and for being so enthusiastic about editing the wiki!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for helping those users who were not able to confirm their email after I asked, and for everything else you do!
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:10, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
  • Thanks for your amazing edits and helping so frequently, keep it up!
    Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 15:24, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
ahmetlii (talk | contribs)
Groko13 (talk | contribs)
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs)
Jonathan50 (talk | contribs)
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs)
  • You got into editing really quickly and made lots of cool edits! Keep it up!
    Groko13 (talk | contribs) 01:27, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
  • Thank you for your positive, outgoing, and helpful attitude towards editing the wiki! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:33, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Naleksuh (talk | contribs)
TenType (talk | contribs)
  • You're undeniably a great Experienced Wikian and a crucial part of this wiki. Thank you for patrolling, handling account requests, editing, and for everything else you do. :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:29, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
12944qwerty (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for coming back excited to participate in the community again. I'm looking forward to your future edits! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
jakel181 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for running this wonderful fountain of positivity! :)
    Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 21:38, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
β€œ There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings their own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now-
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

The next TT is, August 27th, see you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 05:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 05:15, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
Thanks for posting, but this is last month's TT. You probably want to change that? :P
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 05:19, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
As the other informal runner of TT, I think jake doesn't mind if I edit the archive number in his post. Thanks for pointing it out!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:35, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Full names in past revisions of Frozen Coco

Although the page is now a redirect to Collaboration, past revisions of the page Frozen Coco contains full names of several Scratchers. Should those revisions be deleted (an instance of a Scratchers's full name that was their past username was deleted from the list of curators page on this wiki)?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:51, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

I'd think yes, since the full names in Collaboration (group) were removed by someone who was mentioned in the article. However, this would also mean that several revisions of Collaboration (group) would have to be deleted too.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:28, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
I've left a message on Ken's talk page referring him to this discussion. Thanks for pointing this out, Jammum!
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:37, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
They should be deleted according to CG except like User:mtwoll and S:DISCORD. I think if someone wants to delete, admins can delete them; but no more than that.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
17:27, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
I'd like to delegate a little - could someone with more time or willpower find the specific (inclusive) start and end revisions where full names are mentioned, so that I can delete all the ones in between? Thanks.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yep! Special:Diff/72761 to Special:Diff/238261.
TenType (talk | contribs) 03:46, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, I hid all the revisions between them (inclusive) and also found the revisions in Frozen Coco that had full names myself and hid those. Thanks to everyone for your efforts and escalation! Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:56, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
(Bigpuppy, now that you're admin you can handle issues like this yourself as well, just so you know :))
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:21, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ I am going to bring this up here, but 2 revisions were missed on Frozen Coco when a redirection was reverted. Also still containing the full names is every revision of User:DIY/Frozen Coco (even though it is in userspace)
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:56, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

I deleted one revision on Frozen Coco. However, I can't see any other revisions that might need to be deleted around that point in its history. If I missed something, please let me know. As for User:DIY/Frozen Coco, I'm not exactly sure what to do with that page, as there is personal information all throughout it. Maybe delete it entirely? Thanks for pointing these out! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:15, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Update: After getting the input of another EW, I went ahead and deleted the page. Thank you again for pointing this out, Jammum! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:50, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Promoting Bigpuppy

Hi all,

We, (some of) the current Experienced Wikians, admins, and bureaucrats, have been in discussion.

Bigpuppy (talk | contribs) has been an excellent and active EW, as I'm sure anyone in the community can agree (and judging by Thankful Thursday contributions, some people agree to quite a large extent). However, at times it seems that he is limited by the lack of tools he has access to - protection, in particular, comes to mind as something he still has to ask higher-ups for, when really it's a day-to-day task that he is perfectly capable of handling himself.

With that in mind, we think it's in the best interest to give bigpuppy the sysop usergroup. However, since this is more out of context than most other promotions that have happened in history, we've decided to use the precedent that scmb1 set when promoting jvvg: put it to a vote.

Vote Yes Yes or No No for whether to promote bigpuppy to administrator. There's no particular voting period, I'll just make the decision after I think enough people have voted to make the community opinion clear.

I'll start: I vote Yes Yes.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:34, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Yes - definitely!
TenType (talk | contribs) 05:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
06:48, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes - Absolutely, Bigpuppy has been a great EW!
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 07:36, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Bigpuppy, you can vote for yourself too, by the way - if you don't want to be an admin, just vote no and we'll forget the whole thing. I don't want to thrust administratorship upon you without your consent. I will, however, assume you're happy to be admin.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
11:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes I completely agree.
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 12:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes 100% Yes
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 13:30, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 13:32, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes definitely
Godslamb (talk | contribs) 16:01, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

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Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 16:06, 2 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Yes
AjsyaSmallpfp.png ajsya  Profile | Talk | Contribs  17:29, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes We truly wouldn't know what we'd do without you. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:05, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm not going to vote, since that feels odd, but I feel like I should say something: thank you for the opportunity, Ken and everyone else. Whether or not this vote comes out as successful, I will know that whatever gets decided is what the community thinks is best. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 01:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
The community has spoken, and all I see is overwhelming approval. Yes Bigpuppy, you have now been made an admin! You can take a look at the new permissions you have here. I'm sure you will do well with them. Thank you for all your contributions to date, and here's to many more!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Well done Bigpuppy! You deserve it! :)
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 12:22, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks everyone! I hope to do well in this role! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:30, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ If I saw it earlier, I would've said Yes Yes. Congrats anyway!
VFDan.png Luvexina  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  19:13, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done Congrats again!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:08, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
If I saw it earlier, I would've said Yes Yes too
Dude613 (talk | contribs) 19:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Yes Good job Bigpuppy.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 20:58, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Is hosting images only for outside the Scratch Wiki allowed?

A user (not naming who) on this wiki made a page in their userspace saying they will host images using the wiki because 'cubeupload is down'. An image on that page seems like it will most likely be used outside the Wiki only. Also, a few months ago, a few images were deleted because they were only used outside the Scratch Wiki.

So, is it allowed for users to host images for only outside the Scratch Wiki? I think it is not.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:33, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

No. It is not allowed. I can't find where it says that in the wiki but I know it is not allowed. The Scratch Wiki is not an image hosting service.
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:31, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes No, it is not allowed. This hasn't been explicitly codified yet but it's been a rule that the EWs and admins have operated under for quite a while. We're responding here first while we amend the guidelines. Thanks for bringing this up.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:19, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
It could be an issue to state it because people might start to clog up the servers with random images.
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 18:13, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Perhaps we could add it under Scratch Wiki:Guidelines#What the Scratch Wiki is not and then add "an image hosting service."
EIephant Lover logo.png EIephant_Lover  Talk  Contributions  Subpages 
15:38, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
I think that's a good idea, especially if it isn't documented anywhere else yet.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 16:19, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
It's been documented at Scratch Wiki:Userspace#User Images :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:22, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Just images, though? From my conversation with kenny2scratch, the goal is to combat the use of scratch wiki as a web host in general, whether via images or otherwise.
Naleksuh.jpg Naleksuh (talk | contribs) 05:52, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Considering that OP was about image hosting I'm going to consider this topic Yes Done. @Naleksuh If you want to bring up your concern in another topic with a few examples that would be great.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:07, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Why won't my custom sig work?

I have my sig set to be {{User:Garnetluvcookie/Sig}} but why won't my custom sig show up when signing?
Garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 20:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Have you either:
  • Not treated it as wikitext, if not, it won't work
  • Forgotten to save it
Also, I recommend you make a minisig so that you don't leak wikimarkup everywhere when posting. All you have to do is create a new file and embed the signature it and use that when adjusting your preferences.
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 06:55, 5 August 2020 (UTC)

WikiMonitor may be temporarily unavailable

While jvvg fixes his Raspberry Pi software problems, WikiMonitor may be unavailable.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 19:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken the problems are fixed and WM is back up.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:02, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 17:03, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

New Wikans

I became a Wikian 2 days ago, but on my preferances it says new wikian as well as wikian and I'm not sure why. Is this deliberate or does it just take some time?
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 09:07, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this is normal. It says the same for me. I think this is just how the MediaWiki groups system works.
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 09:50, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
This is normal. You meet all the requirements for New Wikian, and now you meet the requirements for Wikian. Thus both are shown. Those of us with more usergroups have all of them shown.
This is different from Scratch, where only your top rank is shown. Scratch Team members meet all the requirements to be New Scratchers (have an account), all the requirements to be Scratchers (unknown), and all the requirements to be Scratch Team members (hired by LLK), but Scratch only displays Scratch Team because that's their top rank.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:00, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Full stops/Periods after list items

A page on this Wiki was recently edited to add full stops/periods after items in a list. I looked at the Editing Conventions and nothing about them were mentioned. Are they allowed after list items under what circumstances?

Note: Since I use British English, I will refer to those punctuation marks as full stops.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that they aren't needed as grammaticaly you don't need a full stop at the end of a bullet point.
Also, it is technically Proper English, not British English
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 14:24, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Where's the list that you're referring to? If the list items are full sentences, then I think it might be appropriate (not a grammar rule, just my opinion).
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 15:25, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh no, do not go around definitively calling British English "proper" English. That's a matter of opinion. And Jammum, remember that our conventions require American English - it's fine to use British English here, but mainspace must be American. (You're probably aware of this, I'm just mentioning it.)
My general convention is that either all items get periods, or none of them do. For a list containing some items that are sentence fragments and some items that are complete sentences, I tend to try to complete the sentence so that everything can have a period, but it's also fine to just not put a period after the full sentences. If a list is all complete sentences, then they all get periods; if it's all sentence fragments, none of them get periods.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

New skins?

I was looking at the preferences, and there are new skins? Or am I just ignorant :P

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 16:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

Yeah, it seems like it to me.
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 16:23, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Those are the default MediaWiki skins. I'm curious if these were added by mistake or on purpose.
Dominic305.png Dominic305  Talk  Contribs (1,791)  Scratch  Directory 
18:44, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
I believe that they were added on purpose. Enjoy :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 16:04, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
They are bundled with MediaWiki, but were just not enabled. Someone requested to have them enabled, and I didn't see the harm in it.
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09:51, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Would it be possible to hide content in the editor involving signing posts on pages that are not talk pages (including using MediaWiki extensions)?

Question is in the title. Although I think there might be a high chance such might be impossible, users would be less likely to sign in mainspace articles if it was possible and if it was implemented into this Wiki.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 11:15, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Probably no. That could be hard to implement.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
13:10, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Because of the prevalence of custom signatures (e.g. us three's sigs), it's not really possible to reliably detect whether something is definitely a signature. WikiMonitor looks for the "(UTC)" in the timestamp to figure out whether a signature wasn't left, but definitively checking whether a page is having a signature inserted into it is quite difficult. Certainly we could probably prohibit ScratchSigs on the page, but that wouldn't cover everything...
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09:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Oh wait, are you talking about the signature buttons? That might be possible but it'd involve directly editing the WikiEditor extension, which is something I'm not keen on doing since that has all sorts of potential for danger. So I guess the answer is the same but the reason was mistaken.
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10:27, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Wait never mind, signature buttons are already hidden in non-talk pages, besides the one below the edit area. Is that what you meant? In that case, I've set it so that that's hidden on non-talk pages. If you meant something else, please say so.
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10:36, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
I'm not sure that Jammum is talking about hide the button, according to the question.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
10:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Just for clarification, I was talking about the 'sign your username part' in the Wiki Markup codes section. As that has now been hidden on non-talk pages, this topic is now Yes Done.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 12:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Prevent users from posting on user talk pages whose users are not on Special:ActiveUsers except recently joined users

If a user posts on the talk page on a user who is inactive, the message will take a long time before a reply happens from the target user or it might never be replied to by them.

Unless it is not possible to implement, I think users not listed on Special:ActiveUsers except user who have joined in the last 30 days should have their talk page unable to be posted on.

The only problem I can think of this if when a user's talk page is now unable to be posted on and another user posts on it a few days before, it would be difficult to reply to them there.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 14:34, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I see what you're saying, but I disagree. Even if a user is inactive, you might need to contact them. Yes, it might take a while before you get a reply, but that's better than having their talk page locked and not being able to contact them through the page at all. If someone posts on the talk page of someone who is not likely to reply soon (or at all) with a message that isn't specifically for that user, it is our job as community members to answer their query. In comparison, Scratch profile comments aren't locked after inactivity. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 14:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
That just makes the problem worse, it's even harder to contact them then. No support.
VFDan.png Luvexina  Talk  Contribs  On Scratch  20:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Since this suggestion recieves a lot of no supports, I think this suggestion can be marked as done.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:41, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
That's not "a lot" of no supports, but I'm also chiming in saying this is Yes Done because it's not possible to implement - the only way to disallow edits is AbuseFilter and that doesn't have access to ActiveUsers data.
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09:40, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

Change this template

Scratch Team doesn't editing the Wiki anymore, so I suggest that change text on the template.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
09:36, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

The emphasis is on the fact that main site pages link to the Wiki page, rather than on the ST editing. However, don't be so quick to assume that the ST doesn't edit the Wiki. Few changes are necessary these days, but you never know when one might come out of the blue. Heck, though he's not an ST member, Bharvey has come out of his hole to make BYOB edits again. Who knows what the ST might do.
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07:59, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Give permission for add redirects to alt account(s)'s user and user talk pages

Yes Done There's a few exceptions already(User:kaj and User:mtwoll), but also it would be helpful for the users who changed their nickname.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
11:17, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

There are only three root userpage redirects.
  • User:Mtwoll β†’ User:MartinWollenweber: Because his account is mtwoll on all other wikis. Also, he hosts us lol, can't really refuse.
  • User:Kaj β†’ kaj: To ward off overly curious readers
  • User:Deathly_Hallows β†’ User:TemplatesFTW: Bots are supposed to be operated under the owner's main alt, and my actual alt is Deathly_Hallows. However scmb1 decided that she didn't like the name, despite the account and its userpages already having been created, so we were forced to create the second account and move all the pages over.
(There's another but it involves a block, so I'm not publicizing it here.)
Beyond these, since we don't allow alts besides bots, we do not make userpage redirects. Period. End of story.
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22:51, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Why can't wiki accounts be deleted

Hi all, I was wondering why their is a policy that wiki accounts can't be deleted so the user can go to another account. It seems this is a page that already exists (https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Special:CloseAccount) it just needs to be activated by an admin. Why can't this be turned on?
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 20:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Please don't use external links to internal pages!
We admins specifically disabled that - by default it is enabled.
First off, CloseAccount closes the account, it doesn't delete it. What it actually does is set your password and email to random values, to make your account completely inaccessible - a different concept from deletion.
Second, when we disabled it, that decision was because we didn't want to deal with people who closed their account and then came crying to us with "oh I changed my mind", since at that point the account would be basically unrecoverable.
Third, since then we have added Special:ScratchLogin which can bypass the entire password-based authentication system, rendering the inaccessibility that CloseAccount supposedly provides null and void. Now there's no point enabling it again.
Hope this answers your question.
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20:42, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I see.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 23:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Please Protect

Can an admin. please protect my archive of welcome notes from other wikians: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Acebsa_Talk_Page_Archive_1_(Welcome_notes) ?
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 01:34, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

In the future, please post admin requests in Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests. I've moved your talk archive to User talk:Acebsa/Archive 1 (Welcome notes) as well (see talk page)
An admin will protect it shortly. :)
Also, please use internal links!
TenType (talk | contribs) 01:47, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
(edit conflict lol) Yes I've protected it. However, in the future, please post these requests at S:CPSYS. Thanks! :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 01:48, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Ok, I will do that in the future. Sorry
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 03:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Scratch Time article

Hi, I was recently going through the wiki and found this page: https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Scratch_Time&action=edit . Upon examination I noticed that it listed the incorrect time as eastern standard time. I tried to edit but I don't understand markup code. Can someone go there and take a look?
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 03:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Fixed. It wasn't matching up with daylight savings time.
Next time, there's no need to bring it up on the CP, the post you posted on the talk page will do. :)
please again, use internal links!
TenType (talk | contribs) 04:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

What is S:DISCORD?

What is S:DISCORD?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:11, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I know there is a MediaWiki extension called Chat but not Discord. Is that what is being used there?
R4356th (talk | contribs) 17:14, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

It appears to be a list of conversation that happen in the discord chat. I'm not sure how to gain access to it.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 17:27, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

So there is a Scratch Wiki Discord server? Does anyone have an invite link? I use Discord a lot.
R4356th (talk | contribs) 18:25, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
The administrators utilize discord to facilitate instant communication as necessary. Conversations deemed relevant to public discussion are moved to S:DISCORD. We do not publicize the invite link. We do not encourage users to join discord: all communication there is considered unofficial. However if you are nevertheless interested in learning more about gaining access, please read the site's terms of service and contact [removed by admin - Discord info constitutes personal info and violates Scratch CGs].
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:28, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes Done, thanks to @Makethebrainhappy.
R4356th (talk | contribs) 06:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Minimum age to be a EW/Admin?

Is there one? I was just wondering even though there's not going to be an election soon.

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 17:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Are you talking about the age of Wiki accounts or the actual age of wiki contributors?
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
The age of Wiki contributors.

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 17:59, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
No, there is not.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 18:02, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
There's not really any minimum age, however, in order to gain access to our private chat, you'll need to be 13 or older. Hope this answers your question.
TenType (talk | contribs) 18:07, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
To clarify, we have a private channel of conversation, whose platform requires all users to be 13 or older. We don't ask for ages, though, so we can't really have any age requirements to be in those roles.
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02:42, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Approval for welcome template

Am I allowed to create a welcome Template on my user page? The page https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title=Template:Dude613/Welcome-Template&action=edit&redlink=1 says you have to ask approval from the Community Portal.
Dude613 (talk | contribs) 19:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! Please create the template in your userspace. For example, you could create User:Dude613/Welcome-Template. Then you could transclude it onto pages with {{User:Dude613/Welcome-Template}}. You also don't have to get permission to create a template in your userspace. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 19:05, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

I wasn't sure. I didn't think so. How do I find out if a page has ?
Dude613 (talk | contribs) 19:44, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

The <code> and <nowiki> tags were just the method I used to make the page not try to transclude {{User:Dude613/Welcome-Template}} (and format it that way). What you need to do is create a page like User:Dude613/Welcome-Template with your welcome template. Then you'll be able to transclude it with {{User:Dude613/Welcome-Template}} (not including the <code> and <nowiki> tags). :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:23, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Why does the Wiki support such big text?

See my edit on S:SAND

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 23:30, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Also close your tags, whoever made the above post.

garnetluvcookie (talk | contribs) 23:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Somebody must have fixed it, so your closing is no longer needed.
As to why, why not? Maybe someone wants to have text that's a million pixels tall in their userpage. Who knows? We already have guidelines against unnecessary styling in mainspace articles, so we're no worse for wear. :)
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09:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Scratch wiki app

Hi everyone, Is there support for the idea ofmaking a wiki app for mobile?
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 00:14, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

The Wiki is responsively designed so pages should mostly work natively on mobile. Also, getting an app on an app store costs money and besides hosting we're not really rolling in it. There isn't a Scratch app; why should there be a Wiki one?
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02:47, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Scraych does have an app. the mobile view is not very good so it might be necessary.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 02:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Both Scratch and the Wiki are designed to be compatible with several types of device. Because of this, such app might not be necessary.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

New featured article and photos

Hi wikians, Do you guys think it is time to change the featured article and photos. If i'm not mistaken those ones have been there for a long time.
Acebsa (talk | contribs) 21:15, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi there! The Featured Article aligns with Wiki Wednesday, so it will be changed when there is a new Wiki Wednesday post. If you have any suggestions, feel free to post them here and then record them here. We've also been changing the Featured Images around that time as well (I believe); if you have any suggestions for those, feel free to suggest them in this CP topic. :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 00:55, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Verification Project and Special:ScratchLogin

The verification project for new accounts mentions Mod Share (which I do not know if it is still running or not) and does not mention Special:ScratchLogin. It also uses a wiki.scratch.mit.edu link. Since the account that uses the account, ModShare, seems to be inactive (even though it is controlled by Jvvg), maybe a new verification project could be made for the Scratch Wiki?

Also, several Scratch users who do not seem to have Wiki accounts have commented Special:ScratchLogin links in that same project. I think more should be done to discourage non-Wiki users from commenting ScratchLogin codes.

Edit: I have made some clarifications to this.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:43, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't know why ModShare stopped working, but this may give an opinion if ModShare is working in a Raspberry Pi.
Create a new account system will take times, so why don't you ask it to jvvg to know why the account doesn't work?
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
14:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I think you misunderstood me: I am asking about a new project where verification codes for the Scratch Wiki are commented is made. Also, I am not joining ModShare at all. I have clarified slightly.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:20, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
I don't really see the issue here; since jvvg controls the account, if you want something to be updated, you can just ask him. In fact, he just recently deleted comments on the project. Even if he doesn't update the link, wiki.scratch.mit.edu still redirects to en.scratch-wiki.info. Also, I'm not sure it's that necessary for the project to mention Special:ScratchLogin, since users are directed there from ScratchLogin.
I also don't think there are any issues with non-Wiki users commenting ScratchLogin codes; Special:ScratchLogin already makes it very clear that they won't be able to log in if they don't already have an account on the wiki. If they are curious and still do it, I don't really see an issue, since they can't log in anyway.
However, thanks for sharing your thoughts! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Edit of a protected page

Yes Done
Hello! Scratch 1.4 Network Installation is protected so that only administrators can edit it, could an admin please fix the typo identified on the talk page? Thanks :D
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 12:29, 8 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
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07:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Protection request (talk page archive)

Yes Done

Hello! Could an admin please protect my tenth archive? Be warned, though; few come back from protecting my talk archives. I wish you the best of luck. ;)

And thanks xD
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 22:03, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
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07:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

CP archive

Yes Done

Could an admin protect Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 106 please? Thank you! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 20:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
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07:03, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

Protection and Deletion

Please could an admin or EW protect my user_talk Archive 1 and delete User:ContourLines/Templates/Header/, User:ContourLines/Templates/Subheader, User:ContourLines/Templates/Subheader/ and User:ContourLines/Sandbox?
ContourLines Logo.png ContourLines [ Talk ~ Contributions ~ Directory ] 07:45, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Deletion is Yes Done by Apple502j and I. Protection is still No Not done; that has to be done by an admin.
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:37, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
Yes Protected
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13:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


Could an admin protect this page? Thanks!
Filmlover12 (talk | contribs) 16:54, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
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13:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)


Could an admin please protect this page and this page? Thanks!
Groko13 (talk | contribs) 06:00, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
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13:31, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Protection request

Hello! Could an admin please protect User talk:Bigpuppy/Archive 11? Thanks :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:01, 31 July 2020 (UTC)

Well, I'm an admin now, so...Yes Done :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 14:11, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

Remove category from Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Nambaseking01

The obsolete feature template in that page categorized the page into a non-AF category. That template needs cat=no added after it.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 13:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 16:15, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Protection Request

Hi! Can someone protect User talk:Illusion705/Archive 1? Thanks
Illusion705's User Logo1.png   Illusion705 talk | contribs  20:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Yes Done
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 20:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanks :)
Illusion705's User Logo1.png   Illusion705 talk | contribs  20:09, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
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