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New page for intro/outro
I think this is a big thing right know so should we have a main space article about intros/outros on one page or on two pages? Also will anyone help we write it?
asqwde talk | contribs 13:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hmmmm, are you talking about a intro/outro to a project?
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 20:58, 8 April 2018 (UTC)- Yes i am
asqwde talk | contribs 16:38, 9 April 2018 (UTC)- Not done
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 14:38, 1 July 2018 (UTC)- It should be a single article called "Intros and Outros." "Intro" and "Outro" should redirect to it.
Millie S (talk|961 contribs|directory) 17:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)- I think a single article, to which the searches "Intro" and "Outro" direct to, would be good. It would be useful to Scratchers who don't know what they are and might try to search for one or the other but want to know about both.
SuperWhale123 (talk | contribs) 09:31, 17 November 2018 (UTC)- That is a good idea.
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 04:45, 21 November 2018 (UTC)- I'll help write if you want :) I think that's a swell idea!
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:18, 29 December 2018 (UTC)- Shall we begin writing it?
Purple_Ember (talk | contribs) 15:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Shall we begin writing it?
- I'll help write if you want :) I think that's a swell idea!
- That is a good idea.
- I think a single article, to which the searches "Intro" and "Outro" direct to, would be good. It would be useful to Scratchers who don't know what they are and might try to search for one or the other but want to know about both.
- It should be a single article called "Intros and Outros." "Intro" and "Outro" should redirect to it.
- Not done
- Yes i am
Sure! I'm not sure what to do with new pages... do we just make the new page and just add to it or do we make it in a sandbox and add it all when it's done? The first one, right?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 20:45, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
I believe so. Let me create the page real quick...
Purple_Ember (talk | contribs) 22:19, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done Do you want to remove the not done template?
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 00:22, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
English Scratch Club
Not done
The Scratch club is a weekly meeting among a group of Scratchers which are contributing actively to the Scratch Wiki and to Scratch in general. The meetings are used to discuss important issues, most notable was the discussion if the transition of the english Wiki should take place. Currently, the weekly meetings are held in German, but we used to have an international Scratch club following after the German one. An alternative could be to make it alternating every week between German and English. As a start, who of the English and international Wiki administrators would be interested in it and able to join? And what would be better: weekly every Monday at 9:00 PM CET or bi-weekly at 8:00 PM? Once I get a tendency about the if and when, I will bring it up at the next German Scratch club, perhaps already next Monday.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 20:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Aw man! I wish I was a admin. Well, I am pretty sure someone (Cough cough Kenny2scatch Cough Cough)
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 22:14, 12 April 2018 (UTC) - I would definitely like to join, but neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me - I'm in Hong Kong, and 8PM CET is 3AM HKT... Best would be on weekends, since everyone's time is likely to be more flexible - on weekdays, we have work and school, but on weekends times that would normally be during work/school are usually ok. Would 2PM CET on Saturdays (or Sundays) be workable?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:32, 13 April 2018 (UTC)- Hey, I noticed where I live, that 8/9 PM is 3 PMEST(end of school day!), but 2PM CET is 8AMEST which is not good.
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) 11:53, 13 April 2018 (UTC)- I know this has been inactive for a very long time.
- Neither 8 or 9 PM CET work for me either, as they are 12 and 1 PM, which is in the middle of the school day, and I am busy on the weekends at that time. How about an "always open" meeting where you can post anytime?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 18:55, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, I noticed where I live, that 8/9 PM is 3 PMEST(end of school day!), but 2PM CET is 8AMEST which is not good.
Server Capacity
About two weeks ago, I could not access scratch-wiki.info
for 24 hours. My internet connection was fine; the website just took too long to respond.
Today, when trying to view /Archive 66, I got a 503 Service Unavailable error. I reloaded the page and it worked. However, page load times are still a bit long. Occasionally, after about 50 page loads, the page load times start to get really long, up to ten seconds.
Does MartinWollenweber's server have enough capacity?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:44, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
- I think yes :-), but keep watching, if there are such kind of problems more often, I have to talk to our provider. It could help to create a list of such ocurannces to analyse it better.
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 22:02, 6 August 2018 (UTC)- Jvvg made some performance changes - everyone watching this, please keep a sharp eye out for any downtimes! They should be less now that we're not being naive.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Jvvg made some performance changes - everyone watching this, please keep a sharp eye out for any downtimes! They should be less now that we're not being naive.
Add Siggy Warner to MediaWiki:Common.js
So for those who don't know what Siggy Warner is, it's basically a JavaScript thing that pops up a confirmation box when you forget to sign, as well as adding a notice to previews when you don't sign. You can still deliberately omit the signature by either checking the "minor edit" box or typing "CONFIRM" when prompted.
Since forgetting to sign your post is one of the most common mistakes, I propose that instead of people opting into using my siggy warner, we add it to MediaWiki:Common.js as something that is loaded for all users. I think my siggy warner has reached a development status where it's ready to be included for everyone.
Potentially there could be a way to opt out of it, too - maybe by loading a user JS file that counteracts the effects of Siggy Warner.
What do you think about adding Siggy Warner to common.js?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:42, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
- Support.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:05, 10 October 2018 (UTC)- MAJOR Support Ken! Great idea!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:20, 10 October 2018 (UTC)- User-generated content should not be included in the wiki's main code.
Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:07, 17 October 2018 (UTC)- @D_S: You are too late to say so - ScratchWikiSkin2 and Report Extension are user-generated. (you called Ken's Siggy Warner "user-generated", so these are also "user-generated".) Do you have any other reason?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 13:45, 18 October 2018 (UTC)- Plenty of things that the Wiki itself relies on started off as user-generated things. This would be no exception. As apple rightfully points out, SWS2 and the Report extension are technically user-generated, as are WikiMonitor, TemplatesFTW, and other major parts. The only difference is that the "major" parts have been approved by the community to be a part of the Wiki itself and no longer counted as user-generated. By posting this, I am requesting that the community decide whether this should be moved into the main codebase and no longer simply a user-created script.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:50, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
- Plenty of things that the Wiki itself relies on started off as user-generated things. This would be no exception. As apple rightfully points out, SWS2 and the Report extension are technically user-generated, as are WikiMonitor, TemplatesFTW, and other major parts. The only difference is that the "major" parts have been approved by the community to be a part of the Wiki itself and no longer counted as user-generated. By posting this, I am requesting that the community decide whether this should be moved into the main codebase and no longer simply a user-created script.
- @D_S: You are too late to say so - ScratchWikiSkin2 and Report Extension are user-generated. (you called Ken's Siggy Warner "user-generated", so these are also "user-generated".) Do you have any other reason?
- User-generated content should not be included in the wiki's main code.
- MAJOR Support Ken! Great idea!
Everybody, repeat after me: Stay on topic, stay on topic, stay on topic!
Let's not get off track about what is or isn't user-created or modified. So far we have 2 supports and one disputed no support. Any other opinions?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:58, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
- Wouldn't this basically put WM out of a job? Except for categories.
Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 15:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)- @D_S Wm also updates the FPC, the too many edits warning and a bunch of other stuff as well. No support!
asqwde talk | contribs 15:36, 22 October 2018 (UTC) - (this indentation indicates a reply to @D_S) jvvg also noticed that I'm slowly integrating more WM functions into the core. He's fine with it, though, since it would be less for him to maintain. Actually, WM doesn't need to check file categories anymore, either - an abuse filter prevents file uploads without categories. But WM isn't anywhere near out of a job yet - it has curator updating and rapid edit detection, neither of which we can do regularly.
- (this indentation indicates a reply to @asqwde) Why do you not support this, though?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:24, 23 October 2018 (UTC)- Hey, asqwde, if ya remain silent I won't know what the problem is, and I'll just put it in without a second thought - what's the reason you don't support?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)
- Hey, asqwde, if ya remain silent I won't know what the problem is, and I'll just put it in without a second thought - what's the reason you don't support?
- (this indentation indicates a reply to @asqwde) Why do you not support this, though?
- @D_S Wm also updates the FPC, the too many edits warning and a bunch of other stuff as well. No support!
I support +1
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
- This has now been added to the MediaWiki:Common.js file. If you would like to opt out of being warned about signing, you may add the line:
to your common.js file. Donemw.loader.load('/w/index.php?title=User:Kenny2scratch/signraw.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)- I currently don't have my own common.js file, do I need to add anything else to the page other than that line of code?
Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 23:35, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- I currently don't have my own common.js file, do I need to add anything else to the page other than that line of code?
Compliment Tuesday! November 27th, 2018
1:Welcome to the 16th Compliment Tuesday! November 27th, 2018. 2:WOW! Look at all these compilments. This is truly amazing!
What is Compliment Tuesday?
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
How to Compliment
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday
Compliments
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs) |
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Jakel181 (talk | contribs) | |
Cinnamon bun puff (talk | contribs) |
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Apple502j (talk | contribs) | |
Banana439monkey (talk | contribs) | |
Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) | |
4199531979353717123 (talk | contribs) | |
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12944qwerty (talk | contribs) |
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C700 (talk | contribs) | |
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) | |
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) | |
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) | |
Jvvg (talk | contribs) | |
Frodewin (talk | contribs) | |
Asqwde (talk | contribs) | |
1a3c5e7g9i (talk | contribs) | |
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) | |
NYCDOT (talk | contribs) | |
Snowy-The-Dog (talk | contribs) | |
Bigpuppy (talk | contribs) |
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“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
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The next CT is December 4th, 2018! See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:20, 27 November 2018 (UTC)- Note: Thank you 12944qwerty for pointing this out to me: it was not them that created Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge, but mohie. I'm sorry, this was my bad. Thank you 12944qwerty for being so active, however; you're awesome! And Mohie, you are too!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:42, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
- Note: Thank you 12944qwerty for pointing this out to me: it was not them that created Going Off the Scratch Screen Edge, but mohie. I'm sorry, this was my bad. Thank you 12944qwerty for being so active, however; you're awesome! And Mohie, you are too!
Bot Shortcut for GA Stats
GA stats should have a a shortcut. Like B:IWB/GA?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 02:54, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, I think it should be a main shortcut like S:GA -> User:InterwikiBot/GA_Stats
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:37, 9 December 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 04:58, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
3.0 Release: 2.0 "Archiving"
Hi everyone, just wanted to say - Scratch 3 gets released very soon, so that means that we need to make sure everything about 2.0 has been "archived" on the wiki. Are there any pages that need more info to do with 2.0? (e.g images?) Because after about a month, there won't be a chance to screenshot parts of the website etc.
EDIT: We'll also need to start a page on the development of Scratch 3.0 before the chance to screenshot parts of the beta is gone.
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 16:08, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
- I agree, we should have a 2.0 archive in some shape or form. Though we can still get most 2.0 editor images relatively easily because the offline editor is still available to be downloaded.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:33, 10 December 2018 (UTC) - Well, Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles will come into play upon release... I think I'll supervise the transfer of those articles to mainspace while other EWs help out in other areas. (The details will be worked out later.)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:24, 11 December 2018 (UTC)- If possible, please screenshot all the pages with old navbar. (Like project pages) Credits, Educators and Parents page will also need screenshots. Localized versions are also welcomed.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)- I've started Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0. If anyone wants to help, that'd be much appreciated!
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 16:03, 12 December 2018 (UTC)- I'm helping!
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:38, 13 December 2018 (UTC)- Thank you!
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 16:51, 13 December 2018 (UTC)- @ken Possibly we (or/and your bot) can move articles to articlename (2.0) and add the previous version template to specified pages? 19:31, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
- @ken Possibly we (or/and your bot) can move articles to articlename (2.0) and add the previous version template to specified pages?
- Thank you!
- I'm helping!
- I've started Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Development of Scratch 3.0. If anyone wants to help, that'd be much appreciated!
- If possible, please screenshot all the pages with old navbar. (Like project pages) Credits, Educators and Parents page will also need screenshots. Localized versions are also welcomed.
But some articles shouldn't have (2.0) after them... it'll really have to be decided on a case-by-case basis, so that's why I'll be there.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:41, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
Contributions
So, I was looking at my contributions and I found that many of the contribs I did were on pages with the User: namespace or the User talk: namespace. I feel that this wouldn't show our contributions to the Wiki. Is there any ways to change this? Or is it from the mw software?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 18:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
- Yes and Yes, :) Select the namespace as "User", then click "Invert selection", and "Associated Namespace" You can view it here. :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 02:25, 13 December 2018 (UTC)- That wasn't what I was completely looking for. I also want it to remove multiple namespaces than just one.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:12, 13 December 2018 (UTC)- Not possible on the Special:Contributions page, but the
usercontribs
API module allows filtering multiple namespaces. This will get you your contributions (up to 500 of them, press the "continue" button to get more) in the (main), Talk, Scratch Wiki, and Scratch Wiki talk namespaces.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:38, 15 December 2018 (UTC)- I did that but it is giving me a request URL???
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:18, 16 December 2018 (UTC)- That's right. Go to that page, copy&paste the link, and open it.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:22, 17 December 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:49, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- That's right. Go to that page, copy&paste the link, and open it.
- I did that but it is giving me a request URL???
- Not possible on the Special:Contributions page, but the
- That wasn't what I was completely looking for. I also want it to remove multiple namespaces than just one.
Everything you wanted to know about Snap!...
Done
but never dared to ask, now it's your chance to directly talk to Brian Harvey, one of the developers of Snap!, from Uni Berkeley at the next Scratch Club. If you are interested in joining the Scratch Club (via Google hangout, you need to be 18+ or have your parent's consent) please contact us here. The next Scratch Club with Brian Harvey as guest will be on Wednesday, December 19, 2018, at 20:00 CET and will be held in English. If you cannot join, you can also post some questions to discuss here.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 11:42, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
- 8pm CET is 3am HKT... I really want to join, but I'm likely not going to be able to. I'll leave questions here.
- Snap! is too complicated for the age range of the vast majority of Scratchers, but for older ones like myself and many people here it's just right. Do you forsee Snap! being a teaching tool for teens the same way Scratch is for kids?
- Scratch 3.0 is being released soon, and with it a cleaner and improved user interface design. Do you think an update to Snap! to mimic the new 3.0 design would be a good idea? (Minus the annoying parts of the design, such as the thicker blocks, and with modifications as you may see fit.)
- That's all I have for the moment, but I'll definitely post more as I think of them.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:27, 15 December 2018 (UTC)- QQ: Should I share this opportunity via Twitter?
- Here are my questions about Snap:
- How would you optimize Snap to solve mathematical problems/applications/computer science problems where large data sets are involved?
- Do demonstrations in Snap help Students understand structures in other programming languages?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 22:25, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
- I will ask your questions and protocol the answers. Regarding Twitter, the Scratch Club is very open to new people, but they should have some connection to our Wiki, so it depends who is addressed. Makethebrainhappy, are you going to join?
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 20:51, 18 December 2018 (UTC)- I'd love to but I am busy at that time. Twitter is our medium to communicate with other educators and adults who do not frequent the Scratch Wiki. Based on that description, I will refrain from putting a mention on Twitter. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:05, 18 December 2018 (UTC)- It was a very nice talk, we even learned about some of Snap!'s secret features. There is a protocol of it on the Scratch Club page.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 23:32, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- It was a very nice talk, we even learned about some of Snap!'s secret features. There is a protocol of it on the Scratch Club page.
- I'd love to but I am busy at that time. Twitter is our medium to communicate with other educators and adults who do not frequent the Scratch Wiki. Based on that description, I will refrain from putting a mention on Twitter. :)
Compliment Tuesday! December 18th, 2018
Done Welcome to the 17th Compliment Tuesday! December 18th, 2018.
What is Compliment Tuesday?
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
How to Compliment
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday
Compliments
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
User | Compliments |
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KrIsMa (talk | contribs) | |
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) |
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Frodewin (talk | contribs) |
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Bharvey (talk | contribs) |
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12944qwerty (talk | contribs) |
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ErnieParke (talk | contribs) |
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InterwikiBot (talk | contribs) |
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“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
” |
The next CT is December 25th, 2018! (Christmas!) See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Not done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:28, 17 December 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 04:59, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Planned downtime at 07:00 UTC
All wikis will be put into read-only mode at 7:00 AM (UTC) to move the files between machines. This means that you will not be able to edit pages, upload files, or make any kind of database-modifying actions. This is so that you do not lose your work after the transfer. This transfer will have the advantage of giving us more control over our own systems.
We have seen issues caused by read-only mode before, including but not limited to broken file thumbnails. If you see any issues, feel free to take note of them and report them after the transfer is done, but most likely the issues will disappear once the wikis are no longer read-only.
Letting you know,
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:45, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:25, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
Transfer Done!
All wikis are on the correct domains again, but now we have more control over our backend.
Thank you for your patience! It's been a long three days but now it's over.
Kenny2scratch;
A Bureaucrat will provide more information as time comes.
Note: | a lot of “Resource Limit Is Reached” errors, but we'll get that fixed soon. |
Copied from here and here and reposting it here in the CP while Ken is asleep, and while the wiki is temporarily up.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 17:42, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- The errors have died down now that the Wikis are done reeling from the transfer. I've also written a little bit about this transfer in Scratch Wiki#Server Transfer 2
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:05, 29 December 2018 (UTC)- @kenny2scratch: Well Done!! Thank you very much! :)
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 14:35, 31 December 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 05:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- @kenny2scratch: Well Done!! Thank you very much! :)
Wrong Link to Featured Article
Done
On the front page of the Wiki, if you click "Read more..." or the title, it brings you to a page about SDS curators, but the image showing belongs to a page about getting started with Scratch. I don't know how to fix it, I've made a note about it on the real featured article's talk page. If it get's resolved I'll delete the talk page.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:26, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed FWIW - it'll get changed again in a few days.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:03, 29 December 2018 (UTC)- Okay, thanks :)
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 23:17, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
- Okay, thanks :)
New Page for Accepted FPC Applications + Regular FPC Applications
Hey! Should we create an article on accepted FPC applications + Regular FPC Applications? New Scratchers may not know what that means, and want to know more. Is there already an article on that?
Purple_Ember (talk | contribs) 03:21, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- The Curator page links to the project explaining how to apply, I think for now that's sufficient.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:51, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
Please add all approved Extensions to all Scratch Wikis
@kenny2Scratch: Could you please fulfill me a great wish an add all extensions (+ other version related stuff) that have been approved in the english Scratch Wiki to all other Scratch Wikis. This is a generalisation of my specific wish, please add mediawikiwiki:Extension:SyntaxHighlight to de:Special:Version#Installed extensions. I think it's best for all international Scratch Wikis to profit from Extensions that have been approved in other Wikis, mostly the en: Scratch WIki. In the (IMHO rarely) situation, that a Scratch Wiki community of a certain language doesn't want a certain Extension, it's easier to disable that Extension later, than to create a discussion process before (when nobody has seen the advantages of that new Extension). Thank you very much in advance!
References:
- en:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- de:Special:Version#Installierte_Erweiterungen
- fr:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- id:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- ru:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- ja:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- nl:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
- tw:Special:Version#Installed_extensions
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 15:26, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
- I installed EmbedScratch, CategoryTree and YouTube (modified ver) to jawiki.
- AbuseFilter, CheckUser, and Lockdown are dangerous when abused. AF and CU has ability to check one's IP address.
- WOn't this go in testwiki?
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 16:50, 31 December 2018 (UTC)- I have already been working towards something like this... The CommonSettings.php plan is already implemented for English and Test wikis, and I'm trying to combine the other wikis' LocalSettings files as well. Part of that will include symlinking all the wikis' extensions directories to one wiki's. Once I figure out how it's going to work, this will be done.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:23, 1 January 2019 (UTC)- @Ken: Great! I hope you'll find a solution soon. If I cant't wait anymore, I will install the most wanted Extensions separately in de: myself .
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 14:47, 1 January 2019 (UTC) - Any progress? ;-(
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 00:12, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- A little on my part, though I am only helping on a small part, with the wiki farm.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC) - I've now symlinked all the wikis' extensions folders to the English one, which now contains every extension any wiki has ever used. Any wiki can load any extension used by any other wiki now. (This means that the original point of this topic is Done - all wikis can add all extensions if necessary.)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:40, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- A little on my part, though I am only helping on a small part, with the wiki farm.
- @Ken: Great! I hope you'll find a solution soon. If I cant't wait anymore, I will install the most wanted Extensions separately in de: myself .
- I have already been working towards something like this... The CommonSettings.php plan is already implemented for English and Test wikis, and I'm trying to combine the other wikis' LocalSettings files as well. Part of that will include symlinking all the wikis' extensions directories to one wiki's. Once I figure out how it's going to work, this will be done.
Compliment Tuesday! January 1st, 2019
Welcome to the 16th Thankful Thursday! January 1st, 2019.
What is Thankful Thursday?
Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
How to Thank
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday
Thanks
The Thanks are *drum roll please*
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Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs) |
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jvvg (talk | contribs) |
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MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) |
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akhof (talk | contribs) |
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ErnieParke (talk | contribs) |
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“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
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The next CT is January 8th, 2019! Whooo! Happy New year!!! See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:07, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
HAPPY NEW YEAR
YAY! HAPPY NEW YEAR OF 2019!!!!!
2 MORE DAYS LEFT UNTIL 3.0!!!! WOOHOO
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 22:34, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! Happy (late) New Year to you too.
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 08:15, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 05:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
🎉🎉 3.0 Released 🎉🎉
horray!! it's finally here!!
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 12:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- yay! 😄
Jammum (talk | contribs) 12:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Yay!
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 17:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Mine hasn't shown up yet, has yours? Super excited :)
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 17:37, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- The conversion to 3.0 is still happening.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 17:44, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Okay, that's what I thought. 🎊🎉🎈
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 19:35, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- I feel like Scratch 3 might actually be late, because I am in the EST timezone and it is about 3 PM, and that is NOT the early afternoon. It is more like the middle afternoon. 1 PM is the early afternoon.
LuckyLucky7 (talk | contribs) 19:59, 2 January 2019 (UTC) - Wait, SRATCH 3 just released!!! I'm so excited!!! :D
LuckyLucky7 (talk | contribs) 20:01, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I feel like Scratch 3 might actually be late, because I am in the EST timezone and it is about 3 PM, and that is NOT the early afternoon. It is more like the middle afternoon. 1 PM is the early afternoon.
- Okay, that's what I thought. 🎊🎉🎈
- The conversion to 3.0 is still happening.
- Mine hasn't shown up yet, has yours? Super excited :)
- Yay!
YESSS IT'S HERE!!! And commenting works now too!!
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 20:43, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- If Scratch 3 has been here for two days why are the pages still outdated?
16itople1 (talk | contribs) 08:56, 4 January 2019 (UTC)- There are a lot of Wiki pages, 1,493 of them to be exact. This is going to take a long time and a lot of effort to update. Be patient! There are still pages on here that were last updated in the 1.4 days.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:32, 4 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 05:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- There are a lot of Wiki pages, 1,493 of them to be exact. This is going to take a long time and a lot of effort to update. Be patient! There are still pages on here that were last updated in the 1.4 days.
Errors whilst accessing the Scratch Wiki
On the Scratch Wiki, after the Scratch Website was put into Maintainance Mode, I frequently saw some 508 "Resource Limit Reached" errors. Does anyone know the cause for this?
Jammum (talk | contribs) 13:18, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- No concrete cause, only speculation. My suspicion is that now that the website is down, people are turning to the Wiki... but we're not equipped to handle that kind of traffic, so we're borking as well. Martin's emailed me, and I've emailed him... but any solution would involve contacting the server provider and that takes time. Nothing to be done at present.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:20, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- it looks like the navbar is missing something
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 14:57, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Some parts of the navbar (like the Scratch Logo) are missing because those parts are hosted on the Scratch Website. The Scratch Website is currently down to switch from Scratch 2.0 to 3.0, which also means that images stored on it cannot be accessed by anyone or anything. The CDN containing user profile images are still available, as only the main Scratch Website (not any subdomains) is down for maintainance.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 15:11, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- I like the use of the word whilst.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:47, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- I like the use of the word whilst.
- Some parts of the navbar (like the Scratch Logo) are missing because those parts are hosted on the Scratch Website. The Scratch Website is currently down to switch from Scratch 2.0 to 3.0, which also means that images stored on it cannot be accessed by anyone or anything. The CDN containing user profile images are still available, as only the main Scratch Website (not any subdomains) is down for maintainance.
- it looks like the navbar is missing something
I wonder why the Scratch Wiki does not display the "Scratch 3.0 will be here soon!" message
LuckyLucky7 (talk | contribs) 18:24, 2 January 2019 (UTC) See the subject.
- I think the bureaucrats haven't got round to it yet (it might be too late for them to add it).
Jammum (talk | contribs) 18:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Maybe this is supposed to be the wiki for Scratch 3.
LuckyLucky7 (talk | contribs) 18:33, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- Maybe this is supposed to be the wiki for Scratch 3.
3.0 is here!
Scratch 3.0 is now here! Hooray! Should we copy and paste all of the 3.0 articles into their ordinary pages? (e.g. Scratch Wiki:3.0 Articles/Scratch to Scratch)
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 20:27, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- See Ken's long post about Scratch 3.0 a few sections above this one.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 21:48, 2 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 05:04, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Why no Double Redirects?
Why no Special:DoubleRedirects?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 23:42, 2 January 2019 (UTC)
- If you click on a double redirect, the first redirect works properly, but it just pauses at the second one and you have to manually click it. This prevents infinite redirects.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 21:57, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
3.0's Server Troubles
Is it me, or:
- Project pages are not displaying
- My username's not showing in the header
- The project editor's not working
- It takes forever to get to a userpage that might not even display?
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 00:06, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Not just you. For a while, no one could comment. Some pages haven't updated to 3.0 yet either. Projects don't remix, and they don't save a lot either. It logged me out for no reason. Hopefully they fix these bugs soon, but the Wiki still seems to work! :)
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:00, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- Yep, I was having this problem a few minutes ago. It's been on and off since yesterday.
-ShadowOfTheFuture- (talk | contribs) 18:20, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- I also had this problem.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 21:54, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- The ST fixed the problem on a release on January 9, which also included raising the limit for cloud variables and fixing blurry images.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 03:09, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:48, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- The ST fixed the problem on a release on January 9, which also included raising the limit for cloud variables and fixing blurry images.
- I also had this problem.
- Yep, I was having this problem a few minutes ago. It's been on and off since yesterday.
- Not just you. For a while, no one could comment. Some pages haven't updated to 3.0 yet either. Projects don't remix, and they don't save a lot either. It logged me out for no reason. Hopefully they fix these bugs soon, but the Wiki still seems to work! :)
File not displaying in my signature
Why doesn't this file display when it's put at a size smaller than 125px?
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 00:18, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Gifs are known to be troublesome. Likely the server ran out of memory when trying to shrink it to size. But using gifs in your signature is against custom signature guidelines anyway (they get too flashy if we allow gifs) - just use a static ar
mamemedillo.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:34, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Remove Backpack Banner
We should remove the backpack banner now snice Scratch 3 is released now.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 15:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done (fyi this should have gone on Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Comments as Citations
Should comments be used as citations? Some comments are so old that they don't seem to load if someone wants to check the citation. Anyone have a solution to the problem?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 16:35, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
- Comments??
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 17:36, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- If you want to use a comment for a citation, you could take a picture of it, upload it to CubeUpload and then use the direct link or something like that I guess. I don't have any ideas for the current comments that don't load, though...
-ShadowOfTheFuture- (talk | contribs) 18:17, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- The Problem with that is then someone could edit it then take a screen shot.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 21:51, 3 January 2019 (UTC)- No, no pictures! We have a reference format for comments:
- The Problem with that is then someone could edit it then take a screen shot.
- If you want to use a comment for a citation, you could take a picture of it, upload it to CubeUpload and then use the direct link or something like that I guess. I don't have any ideas for the current comments that don't load, though...
Username. (D/M/YYYY). "Relevant quote from comment." https://scratch.mit.edu/users/link_to_comment#comments-12345678
- If you can't fetch the quote because the comment is so old, then unfortunately there's nothing to be done. Whatever material that references the comment will have to be assumed to be verifiable by the comment, unless proven otherwise.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)- Scratch 3.0 should be faster at loading comments though...? A new thing it does is instead of loading all of the comments leading down to it, it only shows the comment you clicked the link to and has a "see all comments" button.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:09, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Scratch 3.0 should be faster at loading comments though...? A new thing it does is instead of loading all of the comments leading down to it, it only shows the comment you clicked the link to and has a "see all comments" button.
- If you can't fetch the quote because the comment is so old, then unfortunately there's nothing to be done. Whatever material that references the comment will have to be assumed to be verifiable by the comment, unless proven otherwise.
Scratch 3.0 Controversy
On the Scratch Website, I've seen many Scratchers (I don't know how much) critisizing Scratch 3.0. Should the wiki mention critisism of Scratch 3.0?
Jammum (talk | contribs) 12:01, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
- Find enough references to enough different types of criticism and we might have a section in the article.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
Removing discussion tests on Help talk:Welcome/4
The page I mentioned in the above title is used by users as a test discussion page. I think the tests shouldn't belong on that page. Should they be removed?
Jammum (talk | contribs) 10:54, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- The welcome tutorial itself says to do a test on the talk page! No, that's a perfect place to test. Definitely keep it the way it is.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Blocks in articles should display smaller
The current blocks plugin has resulted in significantly larger blocks than we had in the previous version. In fact, they are even larger than the blocks in the Scratch editor. Measuring on my screen, the Glide () Secs to () block is 40px tall in the editor (measured from the highest to lowest pixel), while in the blocks plugin, it is 58px tall. This is almost 50% larger. You can see the difference below:
In that image, the block on the left is from the editor, while the block on the right is from the blocks plugin. This is resulting in the blocks not only being larger than in the editor, but so large that they are becoming distracting from the actual text. Therefore, I propose requesting to the current creator of the blocks plugin that the blocks be made smaller. This will result both in the blocks more accurately resembling what you see in the editor and having them be less distracting from the text in articles. They would look something like this:
What do people think?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:50, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- I saw your mistake
- I agree, It is way to big to read with. +1
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:11, 7 January 2019 (UTC)- I implemented a fix for this on the Wiki extension when it was added, so I'm confused - are you talking about the forums plugin or the blocks as displayed on the Wiki? Because on the Wiki it looks like this:
- Three blocks - left is actual rendered inline scratchblocks; middle is the "small" block in the image in the OP; right is the "big" block in the OP image.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 01:24, 8 January 2019 (UTC)- I'm talking about blocks as displayed on the Wiki. The big block in the image is how the blocks display for me on the Wiki (latest version of Firefox on Windows 10). They should display in a size more like what they appear like in the program (small block in the image) or possibly slightly smaller.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm talking about blocks as displayed on the Wiki. The big block in the image is how the blocks display for me on the Wiki (latest version of Firefox on Windows 10). They should display in a size more like what they appear like in the program (small block in the image) or possibly slightly smaller.
- Three blocks - left is actual rendered inline scratchblocks; middle is the "small" block in the image in the OP; right is the "big" block in the OP image.
Scratch Block Images
So, I thought we were basically done with converting things to 3.0. The thing is, most block pages show 2.0 style blocks. For example, look here. Before I updated the picture, it was a 2.0 file. Are these supposed to be like this or should we update them all?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 00:10, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- We should update the images. However, the current image filenames include "2.0", so we should upload them under new files (like "3.0 () - ().png" or whatever) and keep the older ones for historical purposes.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:57, 8 January 2019 (UTC)- Okay. I've updated a few of them already, can you undo image updates?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 18:52, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay. I've updated a few of them already, can you undo image updates?
Syntax Highlighting
Was syntax highlighting removed? I don't see the color wheel at the top of the editor anymore.
My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 11021.81.0, Chrome 70.0.3538.110, Flash 31.0 (release 0)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I also have the same problem. I refresh a couple of times and it works but I fear that it is happening more often. Something is wrong...
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 23:38, 8 January 2019 (UTC)- It has not been removed. There is just a bug where most of the time, it loads without. A few hard refreshes will temporarily fix it.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 23:42, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- It has not been removed. There is just a bug where most of the time, it loads without. A few hard refreshes will temporarily fix it.
HTTP and HTTPS versions of the site
Every time, I notice that there are both HTTP and HTTPS versions of the Scratch Wiki website, with logging in/out independent of each other (if I am logged in on one, the other may be different). This recently started, with the first incident on January 6. What's happening to the site?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 23:41, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
- I know some browsers, (such as Brave) will automatically upgrade to https.
RonTheNerd (talk | contribs) 04:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)- This is due to an htaccess issue, I think - we just don't redirect requests from http to https, and most browsers don't send https cookies to the http version of the same site. I'll fix the htaccess files at some point.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:05, 9 January 2019 (UTC)- Yeah, it was an htaccess issue. Fixed, http now redirects to https.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:06, 9 January 2019 (UTC)- Your Post Fixed, http redirects to https.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:23, 9 January 2019 (UTC)- Thanks, I've edited my message lol
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 23:07, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- Thanks, I've edited my message lol
- Your Post Fixed, http redirects to https.
- Yeah, it was an htaccess issue. Fixed, http now redirects to https.
- This is due to an htaccess issue, I think - we just don't redirect requests from http to https, and most browsers don't send https cookies to the http version of the same site. I'll fix the htaccess files at some point.
Featured Images
It's been >1 month since we changed the Featured Images! Anyone have new ones?
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 01:44, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- What about this?
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 18:46, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
- What about the 3.0 editor, project page?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 17:35, 13 January 2019 (UTC)- Isn't the Scratch Cat the same as it was in 2.0? How about one of the new sprites added in the 3.0 Countdown projects?
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 04:54, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- No, the image is not the same. The whiskers are in different places and the lines aren't as sharp. Also, beneath the eyes is smooth rather than jagged lines. There are also no creases at the forehead. I think that the new Scratch cat is a good one :)
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 20:56, 17 January 2019 (UTC)- Not done
- No, the image is not the same. The whiskers are in different places and the lines aren't as sharp. Also, beneath the eyes is smooth rather than jagged lines. There are also no creases at the forehead. I think that the new Scratch cat is a good one :)
- Isn't the Scratch Cat the same as it was in 2.0? How about one of the new sprites added in the 3.0 Countdown projects?
- What about the 3.0 editor, project page?
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 15:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- I was thinking of those. Also, I think we should change it before Feb 1.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 17:54, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
Are we doing this? It hasn't been changed in more than 2 months......
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 01:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
- Haha, this is long overdue. Like long overdue. Like long overdue. Like long overdue. Anyway, I changed them to the one Redglitter (talk | contribs) suggested, and the first two that 12944qwerty (talk | contribs) suggested. If anyone has any changes to make, make sure to ask me, Kenny2scratch, or anyone else that can change it! Thanks!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 03:02, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
Experimental caching
I have enabled file caching in MediaWiki in order to improve performance. The basic idea is that once a page is converted from Wiki markup to HTML code once, it just saves the result and uses that all future times the page is requested rather than parsing it again.
This shouldn't affect most of you too much, but you will probably notice this:
- When you load a page for the first time after editing it or if it hasn't been opened by anyone in a while, it will take slightly longer to load
- Every time you or someone else loads a page after that, it will load slightly faster
Please let me know if any issues come up from this.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:08, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
- I noticed that when I load talk pages such as the Community Portal, it takes 5-7 seconds even when no comments have been added. After reloading again, it loads with the same speed.
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:24, 16 January 2019 (UTC)- Hm, you're right - it usually takes a few extra seconds to load. Let me poke around...
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:40, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hm, you're right - it usually takes a few extra seconds to load. Let me poke around...
- I noticed now that when I scroll to the bottom of the page, the text doesn't load. It is just the page box (warnings show up for some reason) and a blue background
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 02:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)- "warnings"? What do you mean? (and if you mean what I think you mean, can you tell me what the warnings say?)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- "warnings"? What do you mean? (and if you mean what I think you mean, can you tell me what the warnings say?)
- I noticed now that when I scroll to the bottom of the page, the text doesn't load. It is just the page box (warnings show up for some reason) and a blue background
Warning: as in these. It also suddenly got really laggy while I was editing my user page, then it took 15+ seconds to load the Community Portal...
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:01, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sudden lag is better than lag all the time... but now I'm really confused. Next time you see that happen, could you take a screenshot and post that here? (I recommend uploading the screenshot to https://cubeupload.com and not the Wiki, thanks.)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Sudden lag is better than lag all the time... but now I'm really confused. Next time you see that happen, could you take a screenshot and post that here? (I recommend uploading the screenshot to https://cubeupload.com and not the Wiki, thanks.)
What is the browser/operating system? Maybe that makes a difference?
Mine is: ChromeOS 11151.59.0, Chrome 71.0.3578.94
Also, I don't know if it is just me but syntax Highlight is working more often again. I don't know if this was the reason...
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 17:20, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
- Same stuff here, although there is an update available now
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:46, 18 January 2019 (UTC)- Please revert it, I've been gettting 5 errors just to say this.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 16:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)- Yes, when I saved my page it didn't save, and it didn't load any pages after that for around 4 hours (this happened in the morning). It just showed a dead loading thingy on the tab of the page.
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 01:30, 19 January 2019 (UTC)- Let me clarify multiple things here:
- Operating system and browser are irrelevant to loading issues.
- Delays and slowdowns are being caused by the database, not caching.
- I think I've narrowed down the cause for the syntax highlighting for the editor not working all the time: it only activates when the URL parameters are exactly "?title=...&action=edit", no more, no less. (Hypothesis, as yet untested.) Again, not caused by caching.
- Let me explain what caching is so that you don't treat it as a black box that causes all problems. Here's the process for our current system of caching. When a page loads:
- First, the kind of user is determined. If the user is not an anonymous user, no caching is done. No logged-in user is shown a cached page, i.e. none of your troubles could be caused by caching because you are logged in and are therefore ignored by caches! (Additionally, anonymous users who have unchecked talk page messages are also not shown cached pages, but anonymous users cannot possibly have talk page messages on this wiki so that is irrelevant.)
- Second, the kind of page is determined. Caching is only done for pages that:
- are not special pages (i.e. pages that start with "Special:")
- are not redirects
- are being viewed in the current version (latest revision), normal wiki view, no URL parameters, nothing but the page itself.
- Third, MW checks whether there is a cached version of the page. (These are stored as HTML files in a directory.)
- If there is, that gets directly served and the request ends there.
- If there is not:
- The page's content is retrieved from the database.
- The retrieved content is saved in the cache directory.
- The cached content is served the same way it would if it was already cached.
- There is no way that caching could be causing any of your problems because, once more, it is not done for logged-in users. Try to investigate further as to the cause of problems instead of just assuming "oh, it's just that 'caching' thing again".
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, when I saved my page it didn't save, and it didn't load any pages after that for around 4 hours (this happened in the morning). It just showed a dead loading thingy on the tab of the page.
- Please revert it, I've been gettting 5 errors just to say this.
Trends
Hey! I wanted to add the Thanos Cat Trend to the Trends page under "Icons". I don't know if there are enough people who have done it for it to qualify as a trend, and I don't know who started it. Can someone help me find the information and tell me if it is even a trend? Thanks!
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 22:26, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
Reference for blog.scratch.mit.edu
Since blog.scratch.mit.edu is no more, are they still allowed as References? I found one in the Scratch Design Studio article and decided to post this.
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 00:05, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- I think it would still be allowed, since it is still a good reference. The link might need to be changed to the archived page on Internet Archive though.
Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 06:27, 14 January 2019 (UTC) - We have a {{dead link}} template you can add just after the reference if you even can't find any Internet Archive pages as well - this signifies that the reference was once there, but no more.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:46, 14 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:47, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Scratch Team Members
I looked at the credits on the Scratch Team article and found this link. I opened all of the users mentioned in the credits and discovered that some of the Scratch Team members were excluded from the wiki page. If anyone knows anything about these ST Members, please tell me so I can add them to the page.
Missing confirmed Scratch Team Members (people with the "Scratch Team" tag):
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/wheelsonfire/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/KayOh/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/rmiel/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/labdalla/]
Other important users mentioned in the credits:
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/jaleesa/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/shaanmasala/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/leoburd/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/taranir/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lilyland/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/theladynico/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/pizzafordessert/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/khanning/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/mwikali/]
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/me_win/] - Moderator of the Scratch Twitter Account
- [#https://scratch.mit.edu/users/lob12/] - Runs the Scratch Foundation
I may have missed a few because my tabs are really unorganised. Double check here
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 00:20, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- I've completely revamped the Scratch Team#Members part to match the new credits page. If you know which users in your "other important users" bit correspond to which names in the Members section, please don't hesitate to add them. Otherwise, Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:45, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
- OK cool!
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 15:56, 14 January 2019 (UTC)- I noticed this before, but the only one I added was stymphalianbirb, and I didn't know who she was. Apparently, this was because the Credits didn't link to their user profiles before now.
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 23:51, 14 January 2019 (UTC)- Actually, linking to ST profiles is a new feature, not an old bug - it was added in this pull, because of (or maybe unrelated to, I don't actually know) this topic of mine. The point is, it links now, so I was able to use that. In fact, quick JS snippet for future updating:
- I noticed this before, but the only one I added was stymphalianbirb, and I didn't know who she was. Apparently, this was because the Credits didn't link to their user profiles before now.
- OK cool!
var res = ''
for (var child of $('#view > div > div.content > div.people > ul').children) {
res += '* ' + child.children[1].innerText + ' ([' + child.children[0].children[0].href + ' ' + child.children[0].children[0].href.slice(30, -1) + '])\n';
}
console.log(res)
- Just copy and paste into the console.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:18, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Just copy and paste into the console.
Change the Featured Studio Template
Done
Should we change the template so that the link is in the name instead of a reference?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:27, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think that it would need that, it would be better to keep the link separate to match the rest of the Wiki
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:56, 15 January 2019 (UTC)- Thanks!
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks!
- Done
Wiki Appearance
The Scratch Wiki site appearance should be updated to match Scratch 3.0's update of some aspects of the Scratch Website. How about like adding something like Bootstrap to make it look nicer?
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 04:58, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- What are you talking about? The current skin was specifically designed to match the 3.0 styles. (I should know, I designed it!) If you mean the content part, sidebar etc those are wiki features and don't fit into the Scratch style of content. Already done
- As for Bootstrap: https://scratch.mit.edu/discuss/youtube/umDr0mPuyQc
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:51, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
New Page
I want to create a page on the GPIO Scratch 1.4 extension for the Raspberry Pi, but I don't know if it is useful and I don't really have much time to do it. Can some people tell me if they use GPIO or even Scratch 1.4 on Raspberry Pi? Thanks!
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:04, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Scratch 1.4 on RPi for me: no, I use my RPi as a server. And because there's Scratch 2.0 on Pis now I doubt anyone will ever use it. If you see someone asking around on the forums about the GPIO extension, then it may be time to consider it, but before that it's not worth it. I don't think there's even much to say about it besides the fact that you can interact with GPIO devices...
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:03, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Embed projects
Embedding has been removed in Scratch 3.0, so for the How to Embed a Project page, can someone rename it to How to Embed a Project (Scratch 2.0)?
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 05:35, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
- Please don't use underscores in links!
- Also, embedding hasn't been removed! https://scratch.mit.edu/projects/168960058/embed/
- It's only that it doesn't work right now (the embed link works, but the actual embedding part breaks). That's something already in progress on GitHub. We don't need to worry about it.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:46, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
Compliment Tuesday! January 15th, 2019
Welcome to the 17th Thankful Thursday! January 15th, 2019.
What is Thankful Thursday?
Thankful Thursday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
How to Thank
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Thankful Thursday
Thanks
The Thanks are *drum roll please*
User | Compliments |
---|---|
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) | Thank you for all your help updating articles to Scratch 3.0! jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC) |
Drunken Sailor (talk | contribs) | Thank you for helping me reorganize the tutorials category (and humoring my use of the word "superfluous")! jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:55, 9 January 2019 (UTC) |
jakel181 (talk | contribs) | Thank you for all your help updating articles to Scratch 3.0! jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:16, 4 January 2019 (UTC) Thank you for helping me reorganize the tutorials category! |
SirFlimFlam (talk | contribs) | Thanks for your edits recently and for noticing that mistake about EV3 on the Scratch 3.0 article! You're amazing! bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:47, 12 January 2019 (UTC) |
“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
” |
The next CT is January 21th. See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:30, 16 January 2019 (UTC)- Why is it not done? Isn't it done?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 00:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)- The most recent CT post is marked as Not Done, so that it remains even when archiving - i.e. there is always at least one CT post on the CP, even after an archive.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:19, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- The most recent CT post is marked as Not Done, so that it remains even when archiving - i.e. there is always at least one CT post on the CP, even after an archive.
- Why is it not done? Isn't it done?
Suggestions for AbuseFilter
I would like AbuseFilter to prevent:
- Signatures being in mainspace articles
- Userspace being in categories
Jammum (talk | contribs) 17:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- I believe that Abuse Filter is a mw extension. You would have to consult mw if you want it changed.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 18:32, 16 January 2019 (UTC)- You don't have to consult media wiki to have it changed! You (Bureaucrats)(as far as I know only they can change it on the sw) can add filters to it to make it custom to your need.
- This seem like they could be helpful, though as for the second one there may be a few categories that set it off mainly a few of the Category:Hidden categories and Category:Open User Pages. Though, it might not be necessary to add these because I have never seen those things happen (expect for the categories mentioned above). Have you seen it happen before?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 21:25, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
(action in ["edit","submit"]) & (article_namespace == 0) & (contains_any(new_wikitext,"<scratchsig>","/sig","/Sig"))
( (action in ["edit","submit"]) & (article_namespace == 2) & (contains_any(new_wikitext,"[[category:","[[Category:")) & (!(user_groups contains "sysop")) )
- Here you are
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 00:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)- @apple your post broke, I fixed it
- Before adding either of these, are there any legitimate reasons for putting signatures in mainspace or for adding userpages to categories?
- Off the top of my head I can't think why signatures would go in mainspace (they do go in subject pages, but not specifically mainspace), so I'd probably do that, but then there's also the problem of figuring out what's actually a signature. But are there any pages that need signatures (even as example sigs)?
- Adding userpages to categories is harder. That filter apple posted only detects manual categories, but it doesn't work for templates that add categories. There's really no good way of knowing when a page is put into a category without using a lot of magic. Besides, the rare cases that people decide to categorize their userpages will be walked all over by anyone who pays attention to RC anyway, so I don't think it's worth adding a filter for.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)- One legitimate reason I can think of to add a template with a category in userspace is administrative templates, such as {{delete}}.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:37, 17 January 2019 (UTC)- That's not a manual category, which is all that any abuse filter would be able to detect... is there any legitimate use for putting a
[[Category:Thing]]
in any page?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- That's not a manual category, which is all that any abuse filter would be able to detect... is there any legitimate use for putting a
- One legitimate reason I can think of to add a template with a category in userspace is administrative templates, such as {{delete}}.
- Here you are
How do you use .js and .css subpages?
Super confused... can you edit the .css and .js subpages in CSS or JS? How do you incorporate the CSS and JS into a page? How can you use .js files? Would you have to link the files to ex: your userpage for it to work? Plz help :anyone who has these or knows how to use them
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 02:07, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- jakel181 helped me understand but it was still a little confusing. This should help.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:23, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
Scratch Wiki Server and Edit Conflict Problem
Done
Internet on the Scratch Wiki has been extremely slow for me for a few days. I'm on Windows 10, and Chrome, Firefox, and Edge are all slow. Because the internet is so slow, it started to load, but then I ended it because I had to do something else. The second time it fully saved, but I had an edit conflict with myself, maybe because the other save went far enough into the process that it actually succeeded.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:44, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, everything has been really sloooooow
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 18:38, 19 January 2019 (UTC)- I've also experienced errors on the Scratch Wiki today.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 18:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)- Hi everyone. This seems to be a problem experienced across our entire user base, not necessarily isolated to one or two users. We are aware of the issue and are actively working to fix this.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:35, 19 January 2019 (UTC)- Yes, the community portal never loaded either until now (I have been trying for 2 days)
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 00:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)- We feel like the connectivity should definitely be improving in the next couple of days. Please let us know if there are still issues.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 17:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)- It has been slower than before.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 16:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)- I found that disabling my adblocker fixes the problem.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 00:05, 22 January 2019 (UTC)- We have taken concrete steps to address the issue. Thank you for your continued patience. :)
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:44, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- We have taken concrete steps to address the issue. Thank you for your continued patience. :)
- I found that disabling my adblocker fixes the problem.
- It has been slower than before.
- We feel like the connectivity should definitely be improving in the next couple of days. Please let us know if there are still issues.
- Yes, the community portal never loaded either until now (I have been trying for 2 days)
- Hi everyone. This seems to be a problem experienced across our entire user base, not necessarily isolated to one or two users. We are aware of the issue and are actively working to fix this.
- I've also experienced errors on the Scratch Wiki today.
It has been a lot quicker now!
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:52, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
- We just downgraded the PHP version to 7.1 from 7.2 since PHP 7.2 is known to cause unnecessary load on webservers. This shouldn't impact functionality since MediaWiki still supports PHP 7.1. Please let us know if any problems come up (or if this results in better performance for everyone).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:08, 23 January 2019 (UTC)- @jvvg: The Extensions like BlockPlugin and also Accounting seem not to work anymore in DE and EN, but work in HU and FR...frodewin changend "localsettings.php" at the HU sysopsite by just outcomenting the Extentions and changed it back accidentaly at the same time you downgraded PHP. Ken introduced "commonsettings.php" as a shared part of "localsettings.php" at EN and DE about a wee ago, but not in FR and HU...so I suppose frodewins test with the HU-"localsettings.php" had no influence, but your downgrade in combination with Kens "commonsettings.php" was the reason that the Extension don't work properly at the moment...strange...or it's just because EN and DE use versions of the Extentions that don't work with PHP 7.1 whereas HU and FR do work with 7.1...
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 21:43, 23 January 2019 (UTC)- Ad problems: The ScratchBlocks Plugin is not working for English and German wikis.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 21:47, 23 January 2019 (UTC)- But as a result we now know that the Extentions that don't work at the moment (because of PHP7.1 ?) have been responsible for the slowness oth the Wikis ;-)
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 22:10, 23 January 2019 (UTC)- Suddenly everything's fast now, but I still sometimes get the edit conflict problem. I found the difference between the two edits was that the old one had "{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig2}} Time, Day Month Year (UTC)", and the newer version had four tildes instead.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:40, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Suddenly everything's fast now, but I still sometimes get the edit conflict problem. I found the difference between the two edits was that the old one had "{{User:CrazyBoy826/sig2}} Time, Day Month Year (UTC)", and the newer version had four tildes instead.
- But as a result we now know that the Extentions that don't work at the moment (because of PHP7.1 ?) have been responsible for the slowness oth the Wikis ;-)
- Ad problems: The ScratchBlocks Plugin is not working for English and German wikis.
- @jvvg: The Extensions like BlockPlugin and also Accounting seem not to work anymore in DE and EN, but work in HU and FR...frodewin changend "localsettings.php" at the HU sysopsite by just outcomenting the Extentions and changed it back accidentaly at the same time you downgraded PHP. Ken introduced "commonsettings.php" as a shared part of "localsettings.php" at EN and DE about a wee ago, but not in FR and HU...so I suppose frodewins test with the HU-"localsettings.php" had no influence, but your downgrade in combination with Kens "commonsettings.php" was the reason that the Extension don't work properly at the moment...strange...or it's just because EN and DE use versions of the Extentions that don't work with PHP 7.1 whereas HU and FR do work with 7.1...
April Fools Stuff
Done
So guys, how do you find your April Fools page?
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 09:39, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
- Here's yours: Scratch Wiki:April Fools/User:Dilek10. You'll also need to add {{April Fools}} to the top of your userpage.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:50, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
Scratch Blocks Bug
I don't know if it is just me but the scratch blocks doesn't render anymore. I tried refreshing cache too. Could it be because of PHP version? Here is an example:
move (10) steps
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 02:53, 24 January 2019 (UTC)
- We're looking into it. It's possible it's related to the PHP version change, but we're not sure yet. We will keep you posted.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:32, 24 January 2019 (UTC)- I have fixed it. The problem actually had nothing to do with the PHP version change, it was because the Wiki plugin depends on an external script that moved to a new URL.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:46, 24 January 2019 (UTC)- Fixed on GitHub as well.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:07, 24 January 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:44, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- Fixed on GitHub as well.
- I have fixed it. The problem actually had nothing to do with the PHP version change, it was because the Wiki plugin depends on an external script that moved to a new URL.
.sprite3 Files Not Allowed?
In Scratch 3.0, you can't download a sprite costume, so I downloaded the sprite and got a .sprite3 file. The Wiki doesn't support these, but it does support the .sprite2 files. Can we update it somehow to allow .sprite3 files?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 23:13, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done - uploading sprite3 files is now supported.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:32, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- Thank you!
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 17:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you!
Should we update the Remix page?
Done Should we move the Remix page to "Remix - 2.0" and do a new "Remix - 3.0"? Or should we just update it? I made a new file for the remix button in 3.0 (File:Remix 3.0.png) instead of the old one. So I don't know what to do.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- I've also made a new file for File:Remix notice 3.0.png.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- Also, should similar articles (such as Studio and Comment (website feature)) be transferred and made new as well?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 01:36, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- If they are the same, then only images should be updated. Not create a whole new page.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 04:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- Change the files, but anything that didn't really change between 2.0 and 3.0 should not warrant separate pages. (Studios and commenting didn't change at all! Don't make new pages for the "updated" versions.)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:35, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- Okay then. I was just thinking since the placement of things is a bit different. (Also, I meant adding people to studios :P)
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 17:22, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay then. I was just thinking since the placement of things is a bit different. (Also, I meant adding people to studios :P)
- Change the files, but anything that didn't really change between 2.0 and 3.0 should not warrant separate pages. (Studios and commenting didn't change at all! Don't make new pages for the "updated" versions.)
- If they are the same, then only images should be updated. Not create a whole new page.
- Also, should similar articles (such as Studio and Comment (website feature)) be transferred and made new as well?
Not sure if I did this right!!
So, I updated the remix notice for 3.0 but the image is now streched on the remix page. Is this the correct way? https://en.scratch-wiki.info/wiki/Remix
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 20:00, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
- Hey, just remember, don't make links that connect into the scratch wiki external links. Just use this double brackets like this: [[Remix]] Remix
- Also, none of the images are stretched.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:08, 29 January 2019 (UTC)- Looks fine to me... (And yes, please don't use external links to internal pages)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:49, 30 January 2019 (UTC)- Hey, thanks for updating it. But I had already made the file (File:Remix notice 3.0.png) as you can see in a comment above. Make sure that if possible, use example names instead of real ones if you can. It isn't always a requirement, but it's best not to make duplicate files. (I left the one for 2.0 and made a new one for 3.0). If anybody else thinks I messed up, please be sure to let me know! If I am wrong I'm very sorry :)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 00:35, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- Ah, sorry, I used the example names of ScratchCat and ScratchCatsup, it seemed a bit more real I guess.
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 20:29, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- It's okay :) It's just that they're real Scratchers with real projects, and I kind of felt like that was advertising. My main thing was just that it was practically a duplicate file :P
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 00:42, 1 February 2019 (UTC)- Oh, okay then. btw the scratch mas ots arent real people ;)
- It's okay :) It's just that they're real Scratchers with real projects, and I kind of felt like that was advertising. My main thing was just that it was practically a duplicate file :P
- Ah, sorry, I used the example names of ScratchCat and ScratchCatsup, it seemed a bit more real I guess.
- Hey, thanks for updating it. But I had already made the file (File:Remix notice 3.0.png) as you can see in a comment above. Make sure that if possible, use example names instead of real ones if you can. It isn't always a requirement, but it's best not to make duplicate files. (I left the one for 2.0 and made a new one for 3.0). If anybody else thinks I messed up, please be sure to let me know! If I am wrong I'm very sorry :)
- Looks fine to me... (And yes, please don't use external links to internal pages)
DeleteThisAcount (talk | contribs) 06:55, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- The Scratch Mascots are real Scratchers with real projects. They may not all be actively creating projects and stuff, but they do have them and those projects can still be loved and favorited. I think they're run by ST members. Look here for ScratchCatsup and here for one of their real projects.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 19:09, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- The Scratch Mascots are real Scratchers with real projects. They may not all be actively creating projects and stuff, but they do have them and those projects can still be loved and favorited. I think they're run by ST members. Look here for ScratchCatsup and here for one of their real projects.
Category page not updating.
- My browser / operating system: ChromeOS 11151.113.0, Chrome 71.0.3578.127, Flash 32.0 (release 0)
- Hello! On Category:Unreleased pages that don't have the category Unreleased are being shown on the page. They are not redirects, I have purged the cache on the Category Page and on the page it has been falsely link multiple times, and closed the browser entirely waited a few minutes (about 5), but they still seem to falsely be linked. Any one else having this Issue? Any other recommendations? Thanks
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:33, 30 January 2019 (UTC)- Any specific pages? I didn't find any from the ones I saw.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 00:12, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- File:3.0 When () is More Than ().png, () Button Pressed? (block), and Backdrop () (block)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:24, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- This seems to have been resolved. In an effort to improve page load times, we made it so that some jobs are run in the background at low-demand times, and one of those is updating category page lists, so it probably just took a bit for that job to run. Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
- This seems to have been resolved. In an effort to improve page load times, we made it so that some jobs are run in the background at low-demand times, and one of those is updating category page lists, so it probably just took a bit for that job to run. Done
- File:3.0 When () is More Than ().png, () Button Pressed? (block), and Backdrop () (block)
- Any specific pages? I didn't find any from the ones I saw.
ThisIsAnAccount More Features
Just some more features I thought we could add for this bot.
- Deleting pages with the delete template
- Protecting pages with the archive or protect template
- Checks for non-trusted external links and adds the template
?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:56, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- Bots aren't going to be given admin privileges and bots with that idea have been rejected before. Also I believe Mathfreak231 (The bot's owner) is inactive now.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:24, 1 February 2019 (UTC)- What about adding another job to TemplatesFTW of adding the {{External Programs}} when non-trusted links are on a page that doesn't have the templates.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 02:34, 2 February 2019 (UTC)- It does...
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 07:27, 2 February 2019 (UTC)- Deleting pages with the delete template still needs human intervention, to prevent false positives
- Likewise for protecting
- Checking for external links is already a feature of my bot
- All done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:32, 5 February 2019 (UTC)- This is mainly for jvvg.
- I was thinking that Wikimonitor should also include updating the Featured Studios. What do you think?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:41, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- It does...
- What about adding another job to TemplatesFTW of adding the {{External Programs}} when non-trusted links are on a page that doesn't have the templates.
Report?
When do I use the report button in the page history? As far as I know, edits that are worth being reported are reverted instead.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 20:42, 4 February 2019 (UTC)
- You'd use it when the edit needs to be hidden from history as well as reverted, or in other cases when admin action is necessary.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:42, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Scratch Blocks help...
I am making a new article that is currently in my Sandbox. In there, the scratch blocks are acting up. They are at different sizes and are not showing up. Can someone help? You can edit the page to.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:26, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- nvm, it got fixed but I did notice that the comments were a lot smaller that the blocks...
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 01:08, 6 February 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:41, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
Should there be a topic about common bugs/glitches and their workarounds?
The title is pretty self explanatory-Should there be a topic about common bugs/glitches and their workarounds? For instance, it could list common bugs such as "Follow button hidden", and the prompt to fix them, such as "Turn off the ad-blocker"?
Kritav (talk | contribs) 03:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think so, bugs should be reported to the Scratch Team so they may be fixed at any time. It would be better to create a forum post about that. If it is an older or famous glitch, feel free to create an article on it!
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 04:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)- There is already a list of sorts of both past and present glitches at Scratch Bugs. It doesn't seem to be particularly up-to-date, but you can add any common bugs and their workarounds there if you want.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 09:25, 16 February 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:40, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- There is already a list of sorts of both past and present glitches at Scratch Bugs. It doesn't seem to be particularly up-to-date, but you can add any common bugs and their workarounds there if you want.
Redirect appears before actual article?
I looked up "terms of use" (without capitalization) and it brought me to this page. As you can see, the first link is a redirect page to Terms of Use. The second is the actual Terms of Use page. Why doesn't "terms of use" redirect to "Terms of Use" or at least have the actual article appear before the redirect? Is this supposed to be like this, or should all pages not capitalized correctly just lead to the search page?
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 22:14, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's a really good question! I have no idea, and I think that an admin has the power to redirect pages. :)
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 01:55, 19 February 2019 (UTC)- @EIephan Lover - Normally people would search with proper capitilization. If they don't, they can click on the similar title link. However, if you feel people would search for 'terms of use' more often than with capitilization, you can create a redirect page.
- @jedibrine - Any logged in user has the privilege to redirect pages. Your just have to type in
#REDIRECT [[LINK]]
on the very first line. Nothing should come before it.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 13:19, 19 February 2019 (UTC)- Oh ok, I didn't know that! Thanks !
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 16:11, 19 February 2019 (UTC)- Okay. I figured most people (like me) wouldn't worry about capitalization when searching. It makes sense for links, but the average Joe I would assume doesn't think "Oh oops let me make sure that this search has proper grammar, and that I didn't forget any capitalization!" Personally, I think we should make it so that capitalization doesn't matter when searching, but still does for links.
- Besides, a redirect shouldn't come before the a risk article anyway.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 03:36, 20 February 2019 (UTC)- Capitalization doesn't affect searching. As to why the redirect appeared first, the simple answer is that "Scratch Terms of Use" is sorted alphabetically before "Terms of Use". Q R S, T U V.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:14, 20 February 2019 (UTC)- Ah, I see. I didn't realize it was alphabetical. And by the capitalization affecting searching, it does, because if you look up "terms of use" it leads to a search page and "Terms of Use" leads directly to the page.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 17:52, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Ah, I see. I didn't realize it was alphabetical. And by the capitalization affecting searching, it does, because if you look up "terms of use" it leads to a search page and "Terms of Use" leads directly to the page.
- Capitalization doesn't affect searching. As to why the redirect appeared first, the simple answer is that "Scratch Terms of Use" is sorted alphabetically before "Terms of Use". Q R S, T U V.
- Oh ok, I didn't know that! Thanks !
Yes an no, the very first letter of any article doesn't matter. Every other capitilization does matter.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 19:39, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- What I meant by capitalization not affecting searching is that if you're brought to the search page, then the capitalization of the search won't matter. If you search with the correct caps, you're brought directly to the page, but otherwise you'll still find the page. (Basically, the "Terms of Use" page will not be missing from search results just because you searched "terms of use".)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:38, 23 February 2019 (UTC)- Yeah. I still think that it shouldn't affect it at all, though.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 15:38, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
- Yeah. I still think that it shouldn't affect it at all, though.
We hit 1234 articles!
We hit 1234 articles! Whhooo! If redirects are included in the then was the redirect I made of Project Tutorials (2.0) to Tips Window was the 1234th article, if not the 1234th article was Scratch in Practice created by User:Jedibrine! I know this is a bit off-topic, but hey we hit a cool milestone. :)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 21:51, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
- We should make Scratch Wiki:Timeline article. Unless there already is one.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 00:01, 20 February 2019 (UTC) - There are currently 1,493 actual articles, which doesn't include redirects. (The statistic that includes redirects is 24,649.)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:19, 20 February 2019 (UTC)- I am going to die with laughter from the difference in them!!!! WE HAVE MORE THAN 14,000 redirect pages.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:06, 20 February 2019 (UTC)- Actually I believe that number includes userpages, templates, and the like - i.e. all pages in all namespaces. We have less redirects than you think :þ
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:22, 20 February 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:39, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- Actually I believe that number includes userpages, templates, and the like - i.e. all pages in all namespaces. We have less redirects than you think :þ
- I am going to die with laughter from the difference in them!!!! WE HAVE MORE THAN 14,000 redirect pages.
Header Numbers
Is there a way to remove header numbers? It is annoying for things like Welcome templates and Userpages...
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 00:55, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- HEader numbers? What do you mean?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 01:30, 25 February 2019 (UTC)- Numbers that appear to the left of a header, h1=1, h2=1.1, h3=1.1.1, etc.
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 01:35, 25 February 2019 (UTC)- You mean in the table of contents? No, but why would you want to?
- If you mean in the actual headings, you must have the "Auto-number headings" preference turned on (scroll to the bottom of that link). Turn it off again to get rid of the numbers.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:25, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- Numbers that appear to the left of a header, h1=1, h2=1.1, h3=1.1.1, etc.
uploads.scratch.mit.edu
Done
i am wondering if there should be an article about scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292421 the subdomain of scratch that seems to have scratch 2.0 still available on it.
more info
scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292421
scratch.mit.edu/discuss/topic/292421
Serprinss (talk | contribs) 07:27, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm getting a 'Server Error' when I try to access it.
Dominic305 (talk | contribs) 13:04, 7 March 2019 (UTC)- If it allowed using the 2.0 editor, it doesn't anymore - viewing uploads.scratch.mit.edu/projects/* redirects to the main site. But I don't think it's significant enough to merit an article of its own, as there really isn't enough info on it.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:06, 7 March 2019 (UTC)- the editor is at uploads.scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/.
Serprinss (talk | contribs) 02:48, 8 March 2019 (UTC)- Oho!
- Still not worth an article, but that's cool to point out (you might want to post that on the topic I opened).
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:24, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- the editor is at uploads.scratch.mit.edu/projects/editor/.
Is suggesting things here the same thing as on the Suggestions forums?
Done So, some of you may know that people reply to suggestions by saying "support because ..." or "no support because ...", etc., but is it the same thing here?
NilsTheBest (talk | contribs) 10:18, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- from what i know it is not the same as this is the scratch wiki not actually the scratch forums
Warning: | This is just what i think it might not be accurate |
JJBullet (Talk ★ Contributions ★ 1,213 edits) 11:51, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
- Suggestions for Scratch are off-topic here, but suggestions for the Wiki can be raised as a CP topic as normal. I've done so many times in the past, both as a normal user and an admin; you can do so too.
- As for people's opinions, yes, usually the way people express opinions is to state the opinion and then explain the rationale - so the "support because..." thing is not a Suggestions-specific response type but a general response to any motion.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:30, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
- Shall I Mark This as Done ??
JJBullet (Talk ★ Contributions ★ 1,213 edits) 10:04, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
- Shall I Mark This as Done ??
Wiki Wednesday?
We got our Wiki Wed last week (on Monday), and this week it's already Friday. Just reminding you all.
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 06:53, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
- Wiki Wednesday is a monthly thing, not weekly. The next Wiki Wednesday is March 27th.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:01, 16 March 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:38, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
APRIL FOOLS DAY
Who else is super excited??
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 15:31, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'm super gullible so not me lol
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 15:40, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
- that's a weird word... WAIT I JUST REALIZED IF YOU SAY "GULLIBLE" SLOWLY IT SOUNDS LIKE "ORANGES"
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 15:56, 31 March 2019 (UTC)- I remember when this was exciting as heck. My favorite contribution this AF-year has to be Community Guidelines.
1a3c5e7g9i(Talk|Contributions) 02:00, 1 April 2019 (UTC)- YAY April Fools Day.
Flompy (talk | contribs) 20:43, 1 April 2019 (UTC) 20:38, 1 April 2019 (UTC)- that's right fite me (also tommorrow anybody has permission to delete this glitchy text)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 22:44, 1 April 2019 (UTC)- how does "gullible" sound like "oranges"? (also jesu christ)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:03, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- how does "gullible" sound like "oranges"? (also jesu christ)
- that's right fite me (also tommorrow anybody has permission to delete this glitchy text)
- YAY April Fools Day.
- I remember when this was exciting as heck. My favorite contribution this AF-year has to be Community Guidelines.
- that's a weird word... WAIT I JUST REALIZED IF YOU SAY "GULLIBLE" SLOWLY IT SOUNDS LIKE "ORANGES"
Gullable. G-u-l-l-a-b-l-e. o--u--r--r--a--b--l--e. o---r---a---n---g---e---s. Oranges. easy peasy
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
- Honestly, all of you are super gullibe :) That's the point haha, I got you :)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 12:19, 2 April 2019 (UTC)- "gullibe"
Sti_scratch (talk | contribs) 03:31, 4 April 2019 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:37, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done
- "gullibe"
Add New SDS (Day in the Life) to the News
Pretty much explained in the title. ;)
54329 (talk | contribs) 03:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
My Welcome Box
I am wondering if I could create a template with my welcome box, making it easier for me to welcome new wikians.
MClovers (talk | contribs) 00:58, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
- Of course! Many of us do that. Otherwise it'd be a pain. For example, mine is {{User:12944qwerty/Templates/Welcome}}
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 01:18, 7 April 2019 (UTC)- I dislike that because I'm still take "Welcome!" message to Wikians from four hours and I know how to edit to pages.I think Wiki should include a I Don't Welcome Template because Welcome texts like spam posts or "Happy Birthday" messages in Social Media(if these are more than one).I like send something,but they don't want to these,we must respect them.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 15:42, 7 April 2019 (UTC)- Ahmetlii (talk | contribs): We do this to be friendly to New Wikians and help them out - I personally think that a case where a user has been on a Scratch Wiki before (which, you are one of those people) is rare. If you'd like to move all of your welcome messages to an archive now that it's over, you can. I understand if you don't want them, but please understand that we are not doing it because we want to spam you - I personally think it's better to welcome people than not. If I remember correctly, I don't think I'd looked at your userpage yet when I posted mine (although I could be incorrect about that). Maybe you should post it on your talk page instead (just a suggestion).
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:25, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Ahmetlii (talk | contribs): We do this to be friendly to New Wikians and help them out - I personally think that a case where a user has been on a Scratch Wiki before (which, you are one of those people) is rare. If you'd like to move all of your welcome messages to an archive now that it's over, you can. I understand if you don't want them, but please understand that we are not doing it because we want to spam you - I personally think it's better to welcome people than not. If I remember correctly, I don't think I'd looked at your userpage yet when I posted mine (although I could be incorrect about that). Maybe you should post it on your talk page instead (just a suggestion).
- I dislike that because I'm still take "Welcome!" message to Wikians from four hours and I know how to edit to pages.I think Wiki should include a I Don't Welcome Template because Welcome texts like spam posts or "Happy Birthday" messages in Social Media(if these are more than one).I like send something,but they don't want to these,we must respect them.
Slowing down CT
Hi there! On the last CT Martin (User:MartinWollenweber) had an interesting idea,
“ | I'm a big fan of motivating things like "Compliment Tuesday" but couldn't it be more effective, if we decrease the times per year say down to 4 or 2? It's more motivating honored and to be honored rarely by manny than often by just a few... | ” |
Doing it every 6 months seems too far apart, but if we do it once a month, say the first Tuesday of the month, it's often enough that I don't forget, but not too often that it is not that effective. What are your opinions on this?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:24, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- It's a good idea! When I joined, the compliments were filing in quickly. Now, there are about 2-3 a month.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 13:46, 8 April 2019 (UTC)- Like Wiki Wednesday...That's a good idea.I suggest Compliment Tuesday will on every month last Tuesday because we can see who were do something during all month.
Ahmetlii (talk | contribs) 20:41, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
- Like Wiki Wednesday...That's a good idea.I suggest Compliment Tuesday will on every month last Tuesday because we can see who were do something during all month.
Should "Griffpatch" become a wiki article?
Done
Now, I know that you're not supposed to create articles about users and all, but arguably, griffpatch is now a part of Scratch culture. The same goes for "Kaj"; they have an article, and they were a user once. However, since they became part of Scratch culture, they were allowed to have a topic made for them. So, we at the Discord chat have all been thinking about what to do. What are your thoughts on the matter?
Of course, we would probably have to contact griffpatch about it to see if they're OK with it first.
WolfCat67 (talk | contribs) 04:01, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
- I've put the logs of the Discord conversation here for anyone that can't access it. I will say that I don't really mind that much whether we choose to make a Griffpatch article or delete the Kaj one, but I definitely do think that we should be consistent. I would argue that Griffpatch would actually make for a better article than Kaj, as it doesn't have that teasing element to it. It's also undeniable that Griffpatch is a huge part of Scratch culture nowadays, while Kaj is honestly dieing out a bit.
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 04:11, 27 June 2017 (UTC)- So far, it seems like the reasoning for a griffpatch article is that he's massively popular, that he has the most popular Scratch project, he has a massive whitelist for chat projects, etc...
- This is not what the wiki is for. It's not a popularity contest.
- However, on that note, an article is allowable on other grounds. For example, the griffpatch problem. The ST acknowledged that many new Scratchers have trouble because they aim too high.
- If there was more content in this direction, a griffpatch article would be acceptable.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 04:25, 27 June 2017 (UTC)- I personally would support a Griffpatch article.
04:38, 27 June 2017 (UTC)- I'm pretty much neutral about this. Even though Griffpatch is one of the most well-known Scratch users, I think he's a bit overrated. Also, Kaj's account was deleted, but Griffpatch's still exists, so we may need his permission.
Nickeljorn (talk | contribs) 19:28, 27 June 2017 (UTC)- I have a sudden concern with this: What happens if Griffpatch suddenly decides to come on the Wiki? If he's accepted, he'll have a userpage and a mainspace page about him. Otherwise, I'm neutral.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 01:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)- So what...?
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 02:04, 28 June 2017 (UTC)- I personally would be in favour of a griffpatch article because I feel that he is as notable if not more notable than Kaj. I would also be in favour of not adding a griffpatch article and removing the Kaj article as well. (For the reasons stated above by Hamish)
The_Grits (talk | contribs) 14:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
- I personally would be in favour of a griffpatch article because I feel that he is as notable if not more notable than Kaj. I would also be in favour of not adding a griffpatch article and removing the Kaj article as well. (For the reasons stated above by Hamish)
- So what...?
- I have a sudden concern with this: What happens if Griffpatch suddenly decides to come on the Wiki? If he's accepted, he'll have a userpage and a mainspace page about him. Otherwise, I'm neutral.
- I'm pretty much neutral about this. Even though Griffpatch is one of the most well-known Scratch users, I think he's a bit overrated. Also, Kaj's account was deleted, but Griffpatch's still exists, so we may need his permission.
- I personally would support a Griffpatch article.
For as long as I have been on the wiki, the criteria for articles about the community, users, projects, studios and collaborations has been "Was the product "sponsored" by the Scratch Team? This definition is tangable in a sense concerning all the above mentioned topics. "Kaj" became "sponsored" when the Scratch Team used him to describe an important point to the community. My impression is that this wiki is not about what really occurs in the community but more about what the Scratch Team does and the projects which they decide to back. Studios and collaborations are "sponsored" when they are set up by the Scratch Team and/or run by them. Forums have articles because they were set up by the Scratch Team, and so forth. My worry is that if we change this definition to what we define as "Scratch culture" I believe we lose the philosophy which has been held here. How we define "Scratch culture" is much less clear than the previous definition which I layed out. Now this does open up many new topics which may deserve articles because an argument can be made that they were "sponsored". The "griffpatch effect" as mentioned by ErnieParke may be an active problem that the Scratch Team is concerned with, and therefore deserves an article. Does "Griffpatch" deserve an article? No, b/c then we would need to write articles for many, many more community entities that deserve such. "WazzoTV" or "HobsonTV", with over 10,000 followers each may need articles as well. It would change our focus from being wiki editors to being wiki journalists, constantly updating and adding articles based on the newest cultural changes. Just my two cents on the matter
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 20:57, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
- Yes. He should. It could start with “Griffpatch is a very famoous scratcher…”
Forested (talk | contribs) 09:23, 31 July 2017 (UTC)- Did you read any of the previous replies...?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:20, 31 July 2017 (UTC)- Okay... First of all, the community guidelines clearly forbid making pages on other users. Kaj was an exeption because he/she made a huge mark on scratch History. Griffpatch has not done that, he's just a pop culture icon on scratch. Second of all, the point of the wiki is to make informative articles on features of the website, and the editor. Griffpatch does not fit into that. third of all, griffpatch is merely one of the many scratch culture icons that still exist. If we are going to delve into pop culture as a part of the wiki, as Makethebrainhappy told us, the wiki is going to turn into a magazine, with all wiki editors becoming journalists. Fourth of all, there are many other exellent scratchers out there. We only consider griffpatch because he is more noticed. Other exellent scratchers may feel discouraged after seeing the extent of icons fame, while they don't have that kind of fame. And last of all, creating this page would go against all the principles of scratch. Scratch was not created as a site to collect fame and popularity. As a matter of fact, fame is often discouraged on scratch, as the whole point of scratch is a place where everyone can share, get feedback on their projects, and overall, become a balanced community. It just doesn't seem fair to make an article on him/her when there are scratchers out there that nobody knows exists.
Knitt (talk | contribs) 03:39, 12 May 2018 (UTC)- There are points to be made for this, though. Griffpatch has almost become as much a community phenomenon as Kaj has become. In Scratch, "griffpatch" and "fame" have almost become synonymous (and "kaj" and "hacker" have a similar synonimity). I think a previous point about the griffpatch effect is valid - so many Scratchers face problems because they try and fail to be as famous as griffpatch. We could potentially have the article "Griffpatch Effect" rather than just "griffpatch" for such a phenomenon, though.
- I think, however, that the most major point in my mind against "griffpatch" itself being an article is that a mainspace article must be about Scratch. For example, the Scratch Welcoming Committee has an article (even though it's a studio!) because it's an actual part of Scratch itself, rather than the community. Imagine adding "on Scratch" after every article title, e.g. "Kaj on Scratch". That makes sense, right? Kaj, on Scratch, has become a major part of Scratch itself. Or e.g. "Scratch Wiki on Scratch". That also makes sense - it's about the part that the Scratch Wiki plays on Scratch itself. Or e.g. "How to Find a Minimum and Maximum Number on Scratch". That makes even more sense (and more grammatical sense too!), since it talks about how to find a minimum and maximum number, using Scratch. But "Griffpatch on Scratch"? That doesn't make sense - griffpatch himself hasn't had any effect on Scratch itself, only the community. "Griffpatch Effect on Scratch", however, would be much less ambiguous - it would specifically talk about the griffpatch effect on Scratch, not griffpatch's effect on Scratch.
- TL, DR: I think griffpatch doesn't really deserve a mainspace article, but "Griffpatch Effect" might.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:11, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
- Okay... First of all, the community guidelines clearly forbid making pages on other users. Kaj was an exeption because he/she made a huge mark on scratch History. Griffpatch has not done that, he's just a pop culture icon on scratch. Second of all, the point of the wiki is to make informative articles on features of the website, and the editor. Griffpatch does not fit into that. third of all, griffpatch is merely one of the many scratch culture icons that still exist. If we are going to delve into pop culture as a part of the wiki, as Makethebrainhappy told us, the wiki is going to turn into a magazine, with all wiki editors becoming journalists. Fourth of all, there are many other exellent scratchers out there. We only consider griffpatch because he is more noticed. Other exellent scratchers may feel discouraged after seeing the extent of icons fame, while they don't have that kind of fame. And last of all, creating this page would go against all the principles of scratch. Scratch was not created as a site to collect fame and popularity. As a matter of fact, fame is often discouraged on scratch, as the whole point of scratch is a place where everyone can share, get feedback on their projects, and overall, become a balanced community. It just doesn't seem fair to make an article on him/her when there are scratchers out there that nobody knows exists.
- Did you read any of the previous replies...?
- I think griffpatch isn't the only person to have had such a massive impact on scratch culture. What about WazzoTV? Hobson_TV? Kevin_11_1234? They have aslo made their way into a hypothetical 'hall of fame'. Instead, I feel it would be better to create a page on scratch culture, and include all of these guys/gals in the page.
Knitt (talk | contribs) 15:48, 20 May 2018 (UTC)- No, because as listed before, even though he is big on Scratch, in may cause any of the following to other Scratchers/Editors:
- Feel discouraged because they're not as advanced as him
- Feel down about how they aren't as popular
- Feel like they must delete their account
- ---
- Editors:
- We'll become journalists
- We have to constantly update the article for new facts, details, numbers, etc.
- We'll have a bunch of comments on our Scratch profiles like do this and do that.
- We willl become a newspaper, not a Wiki.
- There will be no fun in editing anymore.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:45, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, because as listed before, even though he is big on Scratch, in may cause any of the following to other Scratchers/Editors:
- I think griffpatch isn't the only person to have had such a massive impact on scratch culture. What about WazzoTV? Hobson_TV? Kevin_11_1234? They have aslo made their way into a hypothetical 'hall of fame'. Instead, I feel it would be better to create a page on scratch culture, and include all of these guys/gals in the page.
I actually support this idea. Griffpatch has become the first thing that comes to mind when you think of ‘fame on scratch’ and his games are massively popular. Contrary to what other people are saying, just because we make an article on griffpatch doesn’t mean we have to make an article on all popular people. Griffpatch is the most popular User by a fair margin so I do not believe that it would make us feel urged to create an article on all popular scratchers.
нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlк║cσηтяιвs║ρяσғιlε) 09:49, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
- I disagree with the idea. It breaks the wiki guidelines. While kaj was famous, it was a point in time. Griffpatch is not a point in time. We'd just make a wiki page about how awesome he is. 10:39, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
- Neutral support. Although Griffpatch is famous and I wouldn't be surprised to find a wiki article on him after thinking about it we need to think about what could happen. If Griffpatch retired from Scratch to join the Wiki it'd be a little awkward to have an article on a Scratch wiki member. It also seems like the kind of page that would have a talk page flooded with offtopic threads, which just gets annoying after a while. It'd be pretty difficult to maintain and could easily be vandalized without anyone knowing the information was wrong. So, neutral support, leaning on the no support side.
--_Nova_-- (talk | contribs) 00:33, 30 August 2018 (UTC) - I personally think that although Griffpatch is a famous scratcher, if we made a article on Griffpatch then that could bring up more arguments on adding wazzoTV, will_wam etc... However I would support a possible article on the griffpatch effect and keeping the Kaj article as Kaj is becoming more a more popular topic on Scratch. Also, if we add articles on scratch users that would mean we are:
- Becoming journalists and a newspaper, not editors and a wiki
- All those other reasons that NYCDOT listed above.
- Wasting lots of server space that we will need a lot because of adding 3.0 articles.
- And more...
- Neutral support. Although Griffpatch is famous and I wouldn't be surprised to find a wiki article on him after thinking about it we need to think about what could happen. If Griffpatch retired from Scratch to join the Wiki it'd be a little awkward to have an article on a Scratch wiki member. It also seems like the kind of page that would have a talk page flooded with offtopic threads, which just gets annoying after a while. It'd be pretty difficult to maintain and could easily be vandalized without anyone knowing the information was wrong. So, neutral support, leaning on the no support side.
So yeah. I wopuldn't support a Griffpatch article although a Griffpatch Effect article would be interesting.
Logabe (talk | contribs)
- A sysop had said a Griffpatch effect article may deserve a article. Kenny2scratch, can you tell me if I should create a Griffpatch Effect Article
Whatsfordinner77 (talk | contribs) 10:07, 19 September 2018 (UTC)- First off, please do not call me Kenny, as that is a triggering memory.
- And no, do not create it yet. We haven't agreed that it should be made yet.
- @Logabe: I know perfectly well what the disadvantages of adding articles on Scratch users is, and the OP made it perfectly clear that they think the disadvantages are negligible. Additionally, "wasting server space" isn't a problem - a new article doesn't take up that much storage at all, we really don't need to worry about it (the exception being images, but we are already strict about those).
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:26, 19 September 2018 (UTC)- Okay. I know.
Whatsfordinner77 (talk | contribs) 04:09, 20 September 2018 (UTC)- I actually think that having an article on Griffpatch, or at least the "Griffpatch Effect", might not be such a bad idea. There's an article on Kaj, and Griffpatch's influence on Scratch has arguably been greater than that of Kaj's. Having an article on Griffpatch doesn't mean that we must make one for every other popular user - Griffpatch is THE user that most Scratchers associate with popularity.
-ShadowOfTheFuture- (talk | contribs) 01:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)- Honestly, I feel that making an article for anyone, even Griffpatch, would be unfair for the rest of the scratchers because many of them also want to be known and Griffpatch is already known. I do agree that deleted accounts could be have articles so they can be remembered.
12944qwerty (talk | contribs) 16:04, 19 November 2018 (UTC)- That's a good point, actually. It's less big of a deal when the account is gone to document it, because it can't come back and change things.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 01:32, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
- That's a good point, actually. It's less big of a deal when the account is gone to document it, because it can't come back and change things.
- Honestly, I feel that making an article for anyone, even Griffpatch, would be unfair for the rest of the scratchers because many of them also want to be known and Griffpatch is already known. I do agree that deleted accounts could be have articles so they can be remembered.
- I actually think that having an article on Griffpatch, or at least the "Griffpatch Effect", might not be such a bad idea. There's an article on Kaj, and Griffpatch's influence on Scratch has arguably been greater than that of Kaj's. Having an article on Griffpatch doesn't mean that we must make one for every other popular user - Griffpatch is THE user that most Scratchers associate with popularity.
- Okay. I know.
Adding on to what I previously said, If we do make an article for Griffpatch, then @WazzoTV may want one, then @Will_Wam, and so on creating a domino reaction. Soon, every user on Scratch will have an article. That WON'T be good.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
- No. "WazzoTV may want one", sure, but does that mean we'll create it? Nope. A "griffpatch" article would be a one-time exception, decided on by Wiki editors, not because "griffpatch may want one". We have a policy against pages about users for a good reason, and it is only because of griffpatch's immense popularity that we are even considering an exception to the rule. I think I remain (or if I wasn't before, I am now) neutral on a Griffpatch article. On one hand, it would likely answer questions people want answered and fill a gaping search gap. On the other hand, it would be an exception to a rule, and invite hostility towards Griffpatch for his popularity. He already has to deal with enough hate comments (that people quickly report, but still) for his popularity alone - do we want to condemn him to more disparagement for having a Wiki article?
- A "Griffpatch Effect" article I feel more positive towards. It's a topic worth documenting. Though perhaps it shouldn't be associated with a specific user and instead have a different name, like "Popularity Effect" or something.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:46, 30 November 2018 (UTC)- Well, I'm not a big editor, but i sort of support this, griffpatch is a very popular scratcher, and he has over 80000 followers, and i think saying somthing like 'griffpatch is not a regular scratcher and no new scratchers will ever get that good' may counter the effect of making others feel like they are not good enough, and we probably shouldnt make it until he's been here for longer
Seam49 (talk | contribs) 10:21, 9 December 2018 (UTC)- I would like to say something. While all of us were discussing this, a question has not come to our minds. What does @griffpatch say about all of this. I think before discussing whether we should make an article about him or not, I think we should ask him whether he wants one or not.
- Well, I'm not a big editor, but i sort of support this, griffpatch is a very popular scratcher, and he has over 80000 followers, and i think saying somthing like 'griffpatch is not a regular scratcher and no new scratchers will ever get that good' may counter the effect of making others feel like they are not good enough, and we probably shouldnt make it until he's been here for longer
Knitt (talk | contribs) 14:33, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
- I've commented a link to this discussion on his profile before... he didn't respond, so either he has no comment or he didn't see it in his flood of messages.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:20, 20 December 2018 (UTC)- I agree, if we do choose to make an article for griffpatch, we should at least get his consent.
- I still do not support though. If he stops using the account, then we could make it.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 15:52, 20 December 2018 (UTC)- I'm neutral on the griffpatch article. Leaning towards support on the griffpatch effect, though. My main problem with the latter is that if you talk about how Scratchers aim for griffpatch standards yet rarely get anywhere near close, isn't that really, really discouraging? That sounds like telling someone lots of people have fallen walking a tightrope right as the person you're talking to takes their first step. But as long as you don't do it in an almost put-down way, it should be okay. Make a note or something about how it shouldn't discourage you. And about the other people wanting articles, I agree with kenny2scratch. Just because they want one doesn't mean we need to give them one, right? griffpatch won't even respond; we're not making this for him, but for wondering Scratchers who hear about griffpatch and come to the wiki looking for answers. griffpatch doesn't say he's the most followed user on his profile, right? So they may not know that. griffpatch has definitely left a mark on Scratch, whether he's active or not. He has almost four times as many followers as the second- and third-most followed, so that shouldn't be an issue (for making an article for them and others).
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 02:27, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- I'm neutral on the griffpatch article. Leaning towards support on the griffpatch effect, though. My main problem with the latter is that if you talk about how Scratchers aim for griffpatch standards yet rarely get anywhere near close, isn't that really, really discouraging? That sounds like telling someone lots of people have fallen walking a tightrope right as the person you're talking to takes their first step. But as long as you don't do it in an almost put-down way, it should be okay. Make a note or something about how it shouldn't discourage you. And about the other people wanting articles, I agree with kenny2scratch. Just because they want one doesn't mean we need to give them one, right? griffpatch won't even respond; we're not making this for him, but for wondering Scratchers who hear about griffpatch and come to the wiki looking for answers. griffpatch doesn't say he's the most followed user on his profile, right? So they may not know that. griffpatch has definitely left a mark on Scratch, whether he's active or not. He has almost four times as many followers as the second- and third-most followed, so that shouldn't be an issue (for making an article for them and others).
- I've commented a link to this discussion on his profile before... he didn't respond, so either he has no comment or he didn't see it in his flood of messages.
I kind of agree with this as griffpatch is a pretty popular person in terms of Scratch, but one of the agreements/rules of the Scratch Wiki states that editors aren't allowed to make pages on other users. We would need to get consent of griffpatch and the people who run the wiki.
MClovers (talk | contribs) 20:59, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
- We could put something like this maybe:
This section would normally break the Scratch Wiki's guidelines. However, an exception has been made for it because this user has been considered notable and important to the site. |
and use it like that? Should we do some sort of poll on this?
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 00:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
- This topic isn't about how to include griffpatch as an article, but whether to include him at all. That header should only be included if we decide to make a griffpatch article in the first place.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:54, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- I'm well aware, see my original reply above. I was just saying that if we end up doing the article (possibly with some sort of poll of editors?) we would probably have to use that template.
EIephant_Lover (talk | contribs) 17:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)- I think that since griffpatch is still an active user, we shouldn't make an article about him. Kaj only has one because he's gone, and part of Scratch culture.
DogCatPuppyLover (talk | contribs) 17:42, 29 January 2019 (UTC)- If we end up doing it (and maybe this will change some minds?) I have gotten his permission! Find it here if it loads.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 19:16, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- I don't know were to stand on this topic, though If I was to create an article about a topic I would ask this question: Would scratch be noticeably different if this [topic/thing] never existed?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:13, 31 January 2019 (UTC)- I would say it has changed Scratch a lot. Some for the better, some for the worse. But especially Scratch culture-wise, since "a griffpatch" or "griffpatch-level" is practically ubiquitous (totally not using big words to sound smart, I just couldn't find the right word :P). Basically, it's common knowledge that griffpatch is really good at Scratch and a griffpatch is someone with lots of followers or good projects. I'd say that "griffpatch" could almost be a real word on Scratch. [Griffpatch: 1. a Scratcher who is particularly good at game-making or project building 2. a Scratcher who has acquired an abundance of followers, typically for good content rather than "F4F" or similar. Used in a sentence: Will_Wam is practically a griffpatch, his projects are so good!] But most Scratchers know who griffpatch is (a good Scratcher), but some Scratchers don't (like most know about the sound editor and some don't). They may come to the Wiki and look up "griffpatch", maybe because someone has used griffpatch as a word and they viewed the profile but didn't find anything totally precise or certain about why griffpatch might be used as a word like it is common knowledge. It would be beneficial to create this article. I've heard people use griffpatch as a word, but never Spidertest or Will_Wam or kevin_eleven_1234. Griffpatch is notable to Scratch. Now that I've thought about it more, almost full-on support. Just as long is it doesn't seem discouraging. (I just had an idea... we could make a Scratch dictionary! Like, not on the Wiki, but ask the ST and start something sort of like how the Wiki was started.)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 00:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
- I would say it has changed Scratch a lot. Some for the better, some for the worse. But especially Scratch culture-wise, since "a griffpatch" or "griffpatch-level" is practically ubiquitous (totally not using big words to sound smart, I just couldn't find the right word :P). Basically, it's common knowledge that griffpatch is really good at Scratch and a griffpatch is someone with lots of followers or good projects. I'd say that "griffpatch" could almost be a real word on Scratch. [Griffpatch: 1. a Scratcher who is particularly good at game-making or project building 2. a Scratcher who has acquired an abundance of followers, typically for good content rather than "F4F" or similar. Used in a sentence: Will_Wam is practically a griffpatch, his projects are so good!] But most Scratchers know who griffpatch is (a good Scratcher), but some Scratchers don't (like most know about the sound editor and some don't). They may come to the Wiki and look up "griffpatch", maybe because someone has used griffpatch as a word and they viewed the profile but didn't find anything totally precise or certain about why griffpatch might be used as a word like it is common knowledge. It would be beneficial to create this article. I've heard people use griffpatch as a word, but never Spidertest or Will_Wam or kevin_eleven_1234. Griffpatch is notable to Scratch. Now that I've thought about it more, almost full-on support. Just as long is it doesn't seem discouraging. (I just had an idea... we could make a Scratch dictionary! Like, not on the Wiki, but ask the ST and start something sort of like how the Wiki was started.)
- I don't know were to stand on this topic, though If I was to create an article about a topic I would ask this question: Would scratch be noticeably different if this [topic/thing] never existed?
- If we end up doing it (and maybe this will change some minds?) I have gotten his permission! Find it here if it loads.
- I think that since griffpatch is still an active user, we shouldn't make an article about him. Kaj only has one because he's gone, and part of Scratch culture.
- I'm well aware, see my original reply above. I was just saying that if we end up doing the article (possibly with some sort of poll of editors?) we would probably have to use that template.
- This topic isn't about how to include griffpatch as an article, but whether to include him at all. That header should only be included if we decide to make a griffpatch article in the first place.
(Remember to outdent at 6 colons!)
Good job asking permission, though personally I would have liked it if he had said no so we could be done with this ._.
Let me re-look at this once more. IMO,
- Points for a Griffpatch article
- Griffpatch is very well known, and probably "griffpatch" is a popular search term (now checking with MakeTheBrainHappy to confirm), so this would satisfy many people's curiosities
- Griffpatch has had a large-scale effect on people's perception of fame, and he also has made significant contributions to the actual Scratch codebase.
- Points against a Griffpatch article
- Other Scratchers (famous or not) might start lobbying for an article of their own
- Against Wiki guidelines, and lots of questions stem from exceptions
- Points for a Griffpatch Effect article
- Wouldn't break guidelines or be an exception to them
- More general, and can apply to more than just griffpatch
- A lot to write about
- Points against a Griffpatch Effect article
- Quite abstract, may end up like Fame
I'd be in support of a "Griffpatch Effect" article but not a "Griffpatch" article. Make of that what you will.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:02, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think he should have one. Anyway, the Wiki says that pages shouldn't be created specifically for users (except a few exceptions). Anyway, griffpatch is just another scratcher. If he has one, then why not everyone else? Also, having a griffpatch effect wouldn't be great as it is an opinion. This so-called effect isn't an effect and I don't think it should become an article. Sure, he has a lot of followers, and I'll admit, I love his projects, but an article would be going to far.
Kritav (talk | contribs) 00:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)- I support Elephant_Lover's idea of a scratch dictionary. It is kinda like the Griffpatch Effect.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 01:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)- The idea for a Scratch dictionary is a) a duplicate and b) off-topic here - we're discussing Griffpatch and whether there should be an article about him.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:35, 7 February 2019 (UTC)- Sorry about the dictionary thing, didn't mean to start a discussion. And yeah if he had said no then it would have been easier :P Again, should we do a vote type thing? We could set up something where you reply with what you support and don't support. Like yes or no on the griffpatch article and yes or no on the griffpatch effect article.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 17:51, 10 February 2019 (UTC)- I feel that although the griffpatch effect article is mmore generalised, it would still cover a lot about griffpatch. No support on either article.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 00:45, 11 February 2019 (UTC) - No, I don't think a vote is sufficient - we have to actually consider the merits of such a page, not put it up to unexplained community opinion.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)- Okay, yeah. But how are we going to close this? It's getting really annoying, since most replies are just "I support/don't support because <reason already stated five times>." This is never going to end, it seems rejected to me.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 00:49, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, yeah. But how are we going to close this? It's getting really annoying, since most replies are just "I support/don't support because <reason already stated five times>." This is never going to end, it seems rejected to me.
- I feel that although the griffpatch effect article is mmore generalised, it would still cover a lot about griffpatch. No support on either article.
- Sorry about the dictionary thing, didn't mean to start a discussion. And yeah if he had said no then it would have been easier :P Again, should we do a vote type thing? We could set up something where you reply with what you support and don't support. Like yes or no on the griffpatch article and yes or no on the griffpatch effect article.
- The idea for a Scratch dictionary is a) a duplicate and b) off-topic here - we're discussing Griffpatch and whether there should be an article about him.
- I support Elephant_Lover's idea of a scratch dictionary. It is kinda like the Griffpatch Effect.
I am split between "a Griffpatch Effect article would be nice" and "might as well not do it at all"... How about this - I'll leave this open until this Sunday, February 17th - if nobody raises a very good point for either article, I'll treat the whole shebang as done by rejection.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:47, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
- Should we make a poll? If we reject it and people keep reviving it, we should make a poll to make it final.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 15:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)- To kenny2scratch: Yeah, okay. That's fine. To 12944qwerty: Ken has already replied to me about a poll a few replies above.
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 23:13, 12 February 2019 (UTC)- I meant when it comes up later on, like, next year. I feel like this is going to be a cycle of reviving and rejecting.
- Also, hasn't the last 10 replies above been against the article?
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 23:51, 12 February 2019 (UTC)- Unless the reviver has a very good point to make for either Griffpatch or Griffpatch Effect, we're just going to point them back to this discussion and close the topic.
- The number of support/no support replies is irrelevant to whether something should actually happen, which is precisely why we're not doing a poll! Perhaps there have been 10 replies against, but not enough have had a strong point to make against the article, so this remains undecided, hence why I'm unilaterally setting a deadline for actually logical replies.
- It's decided, then. Those who have a point to make, speak now (before February 17th) or forever hold your peace.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:35, 13 February 2019 (UTC)- No points have been made. Therefore, this is Done, correct? Done by rejection?
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 21:41, 18 February 2019 (UTC)- Yes, Done. No one has raised an argument since the 12th. During the next archive, we will archive this as well.
- Also, I'll update the bulletin board.
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 22:46, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- No points have been made. Therefore, this is Done, correct? Done by rejection?
- To kenny2scratch: Yeah, okay. That's fine. To 12944qwerty: Ken has already replied to me about a poll a few replies above.
Thank you to all who participated in this discussion! Sorry I couldn't come in sooner, but I was studying for the SATs and am only really taking a break today. Yes, this idea is now Rejected and should not be brought up again unless there's a very good point to make. It will be archived next time there is an archive.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:06, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, good luck on SATs!
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 17:53, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
Block Lag on Chrome (revived)
Done
I was scrolling through Encoding and Decoding Cloud Data recently, and I found that scrolling past scratchblocks is soooo laggy. This reminded me of a now archived discussion mentioning this... so now I want to bring it back up.
Does anyone else (besides Turkey3) have issues with this? It seems to specifically be a Chrome issue.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 05:00, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
- I don't, It is definitely a chrome issue, I use Firefox and I'm not experiencing any lag on pages. If you can download another workable browser, that's what I'd recommend. If its a Chrome issue, It'll properly not be resolved.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 06:53, 10 October 2017 (UTC)- Me.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 10:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)- Just as Purplewolves said, it is definitely a Chrome problem. I am using a Chromebook, and scrolling through that page normally lags it, or dragging the little bar at the side. I have found that using the arrow keys doesn't make the computer lag as much. --
Phantomsrule4life (talk | contribs) 00:16, 3 March 2018 (CET)- With Safrai on iPhone I can't even browse that article: scrolling down leads to a permanent rendering error. Like some other articles. Like mentioned and discussed with kenny2scratch monthe ago. The Blocksplugin sometimes seems to cause to rendering errors, that some browsers can handle, some need more rendering time and some can't
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 16:12, 20 May 2018 (UTC)- On MS Edge, this doesn't seem to be a problem. I feel no lag on Edge and there is no crash. Chrome remains laggy. Could someone with Firefox or Opera test out that page too?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:04, 23 May 2018 (UTC)- I could've done it on my school's computer today! drat. Will you mind waiting 2 months?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 02:01, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- I could've done it on my school's computer today! drat. Will you mind waiting 2 months?
- On MS Edge, this doesn't seem to be a problem. I feel no lag on Edge and there is no crash. Chrome remains laggy. Could someone with Firefox or Opera test out that page too?
- With Safrai on iPhone I can't even browse that article: scrolling down leads to a permanent rendering error. Like some other articles. Like mentioned and discussed with kenny2scratch monthe ago. The Blocksplugin sometimes seems to cause to rendering errors, that some browsers can handle, some need more rendering time and some can't
- Just as Purplewolves said, it is definitely a Chrome problem. I am using a Chromebook, and scrolling through that page normally lags it, or dragging the little bar at the side. I have found that using the arrow keys doesn't make the computer lag as much. --
- Me.
I use Chrome all the time and I've never had any problems with that.
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) 18:48, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- I recently started to have lag, but it is minor and only delays for fractions of a second.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 17:08, 6 July 2018 (UTC)- Fractions of a second is a lot compared to normal completely-smooth scrolling! So you do have this issue as well.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:15, 7 July 2018 (UTC)- One block might just delay the scrolling for about one frame, but on a page with hundreds or thousands of blocks like List of Block Workarounds, it lags for about 0.25 seconds.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)- The List of Block Workarounds takes forever to even load, and longer to render the blocks for me. After that it goes relatively smoothly except for a few frame lag-spikes every now and then.
--_Nova_-- (talk | contribs) 11:50, 31 August 2018 (UTC)- It's been awhile snice the last post and I have not seen any lag. Maybe this was a chrome issue and was fixed? Is anyone else still seeing lag?
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:09, 17 December 2018 (UTC)- Still using Chrome, still seeing lag on List of Block Workarounds. Scrolling past is nowhere near smooth.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:28, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
- Still using Chrome, still seeing lag on List of Block Workarounds. Scrolling past is nowhere near smooth.
- It's been awhile snice the last post and I have not seen any lag. Maybe this was a chrome issue and was fixed? Is anyone else still seeing lag?
- The List of Block Workarounds takes forever to even load, and longer to render the blocks for me. After that it goes relatively smoothly except for a few frame lag-spikes every now and then.
- One block might just delay the scrolling for about one frame, but on a page with hundreds or thousands of blocks like List of Block Workarounds, it lags for about 0.25 seconds.
- Fractions of a second is a lot compared to normal completely-smooth scrolling! So you do have this issue as well.
Done since the extension changed
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:21, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
Delete request
Hi, i recently unarchived my talk so can someone delete User talk:Asqwde/Archive 1 and User talk:Asqwde/Archive 2 and User talk:Asqwde/Bot Archive Thanks!
asqwde talk | contribs 18:30, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:43, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
New FPC
Hi, I realised the news page wasn't updated 4 days ago to include the new FPC DogCatPuppyLover who will be running October 15th-22nd (2018)!
NightSpeakers (talk | contribs) 11:01, 29 September 2018 (UTC)NightSpeakers
- Thanks for noticing that i updated it. You do not need to be an admin to update it you can update it here: Curator (front page)/Future Curators, and that list is transcluded in the protected list. Done
asqwde talk | contribs 14:42, 29 September 2018 (UTC) - Oh wow! Didn't know that! Thanks! Should it appear on the news now?
NightSpeakers (talk | contribs) 16:09, 29 September 2018 (UTC)NightSpeakers- When an FPC is added to the news, it's done by a bot (WikiMonitor). It only happens when the person becomes FPC. So, it'll happen on October 15th in this case.
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 00:11, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
- When an FPC is added to the news, it's done by a bot (WikiMonitor). It only happens when the person becomes FPC. So, it'll happen on October 15th in this case.
Change content model please
Here please User:Jakel181/common.css Thanks!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:23, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- No, the content is not css. If you write the page in CSS, an admin will change.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 07:55, 2 October 2018 (UTC)- The content is indeed not CSS. If you want to regain the original functionality of a common.css file, you can instead request for it to be deleted and then you can create it as an actual CSS file that will apply to all skins for you.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:28, 2 October 2018 (UTC)- Ok lol I thought I left the page blank because I wanted to experiment and see how it looks and all. :P I've added some css? (at least according to a tutorial I found online.)
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:23, 2 October 2018 (UTC)- Nope, you need to re-create that page.
- To do so, 1) move that page to another pages such as User:Jakel181/dustbin without making a redirect.
- 2) Re-create User:Jakel181/common.css.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 07:37, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
- Ok lol I thought I left the page blank because I wanted to experiment and see how it looks and all. :P I've added some css? (at least according to a tutorial I found online.)
- The content is indeed not CSS. If you want to regain the original functionality of a common.css file, you can instead request for it to be deleted and then you can create it as an actual CSS file that will apply to all skins for you.
Changing User:Asqwde/Sandbox/.css
Hi i created the page mentioned above and would like to change it to css. I don't know what it does i just copied it from ken.
asqwde talk | contribs 09:41, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
- It seems to already be CSS somehow! Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:42, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
Moving Hardware That Can Connect to Scratch
Can a bureaucrat please move [[[Hardware That Can Connect to Scratch]] to Hardware that can Connect to Scratch. Thanks!
asqwde talk | contribs 12:15, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 14:09, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
Protection
Hi there!
Could an admin please protect my talk archive? Thanks
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:10, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done very late
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:34, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
CT to wiki news
Hi! The last two CTs were not added to the wiki news. Could an admin please add the latest one as soon as possible? Thanks!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 22:27, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:37, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
Undelete User:Jakel181/Sandbox/3
Hi this page: User:Jakel181/Sandbox/3 was deleted by mistake, my guess on why it was deleted was because I had a template on it that someone added delete to. :/ Can This be undeleted? Thanks!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 21:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
CT to wiki news
- December 18, 2018 — New Compliment Tuesday!
- A new Compliment Tuesday (#17) has been posted on the Community Portal, and in it many compliments. Check it out here, and submit compliments for next week's Compliment Tuesday here.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 23:46, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:38, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
Edit MediaWiki:Logouttext
On the page I mentioned in the header of this page, it said that a user can log in again as a different user. On the Scratch Wiki, users cannot have another account (unless it is for a bot). I would like the MediaWiki:Logouttext content edited to remove the bit about logging in as a different user.
Jammum (talk | contribs) 10:50, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:54, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
Delete my User talk:12944qwerty/Archive 1
^
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 03:46, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:04, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
Change code word in S:CONTRIB
I was browsing scratch last night and I saw someone mention the actual code word in a comment so had about joining the wiki. I'll see if I can find the comment where it was mentioned.
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 14:29, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
- Yes, I think it was on Scratch profile's
12944qwerty Talk Contribs Scratch 14:42, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
Change CT # in Scratch_Wiki:Compliment_Tuesday/archive_016
Hi! Can someone swap out the first line "{{CT Archive|January 1{{st}}, 2019|15}}" for "{{CT Archive|January 1{{st}}, 2019|17}}" please? Thanks!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 00:20, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
- You mean 16? also fixed the archive 017 number, 18 -> 17 :) Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:00, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
Remove Unreleased Category on CP Archive 59
Title says it all.
Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Archive 59
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 01:14, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
Please protect my talk archive
Hey there, could someone please protect my talk page archive? Thank you :)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 17:33, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
- Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:48, 17 February 2019 (UTC)- Thank you! :)
EIephant_Lover Talk Contributions Subpages 21:32, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you! :)
Revision History on User Page
Hello! Can someone delete my last revision history on my user page? I added some sites a long time ago, and they are not approved, so I just removed them. Thanks!
Jedibrine (talk | contribs) 01:37, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- I deleted the penultimate revision and the one before it so that the diff doesn't show what you did, but I'm afraid there are too many revisions before that that included the link for me to delete. I've Done what I can, though.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:39, 23 February 2019 (UTC)