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Subpages for each topic
My idea here is: for each new topic, we make a separate subpage. So this topic would not be a topic - it would be Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Dedicated page for privileged action requests; subpages for each topic. Once a discussion is resolved, it will be "closed" by having the page protected. Once it is old enough to be archived, it is archived, by moving the contents to one of the normal archives (which will remain in effect) and either deleting the subpage (might break links) or redirecting it to that section (better).
To summarize the above novel:
- A user thinks of something that they want to say to the entire community.
- The user creates a subpage of the Community Portal, the title being what would normally be the section title (avoiding slashes).
- Other users respond to the topic in that subpage, and a consensus is reached as to how to proceed.
- Once the consensus has been implemented, an admin protects the page, preventing further discussion, and thereby closes the topic. Other users can ask (at "requests for privileged action", suggested above, or on an admin's talk) for it to be reopened if they think more discussion is needed.
- After a while, any admin can decide that the topic is old enough to be archived (meaning truly locking further discussion and requiring a new topic for revival) and moves the contents of the topic subpage to an archive.
Since a central place for asking questions in general will still be needed, I think, we could create something similar to Wikipedia's "village pump"
- Pros
- Organizes discussion immensely - this frees each topic from being in context of another.
- Requires topics to be more important - it's a waste of space to make a separate page asking "how do you make things bold?".
- Makes it easier to link to particular CP topics - Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/topic name is a lot less ephemeral of a title than Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#topic name, and also makes it easier to show which topics don't actually exist.
- Drastically decreases load time.
- Cons
- Increases the number of pages drastically.
- Makes flipping through topics more difficult - you can't scroll through them, you have to navigate to a separate page for each.
I understand this is quite a momentous suggestion - please post your opinion.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:34, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
- Personally, I think it is good the way it is. It may make it more complicated for new users then just making a new topic, and is it really needed to protect the page, because further discussion is good sometimes.
- Another thing about the request, is that, it just makes the wiki seem more untidy (in my eyes) and would be annoying to get around. Plus: The users would have to make a new sub page for it, then make it into a talk page, Etc. Excuse me if I missed something here.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 19:00, 8 November 2017 (UTC)- Another pro would be the shorter load time of the CP
- But..I'm going to have to go with purplewolves — in my opinion it's easier the way it is
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 02:08, 9 November 2017 (UTC)- That's true, it would make loading time shorter, but as I said, it would get annoying.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 03:59, 9 November 2017 (UTC)- There's a reason I suggested having something similar to Wikipedia's village pump - things that would require easier flipping could be posted there, while momentous things that need separation from each other could go in subpages instead. I know it seems like defeating the purpose of the suggestion, but maybe instead of making a separate page for easy-flipping talk, instead making a separate page for suggestions might work?
- Basically, the major point of this is that suggestions need to be distinct and worth suggesting; questions can be simple questions that wouldn't need such distinction.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:46, 9 November 2017 (UTC)- something like that is mentioned in different recent posts + continued at: #A little reorganization of old topics
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 12:35, 22 February 2018 (CET)
- something like that is mentioned in different recent posts + continued at: #A little reorganization of old topics
- That's true, it would make loading time shorter, but as I said, it would get annoying.
Since this has gone stagnant, and it doesn't seem like as good an idea as it seemed when I proposed it, I'll treat this as Done by rejection.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:08, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
- Wait one second! How is this done if it wasn't archived yet?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 20:23, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Removing the "EW" usergroup
Let me give you some background on the EW usergroup first. It was created for two main reasons:
- All the bureaucrats were Scratch Team members - the Wiki didn't have control over its own usergroups. So EW was created to be the equivalent of "admin" in a bureaucrat-less wiki. Basically, EW substituted admin and admin substituted bureaucrat.
- There were a lot of account requests, so EW was made to help the admins process them all.
The first thing is no longer true. We now have our own bureaucrats (*cough cough* yours truly *cough cough*).
The second thing, though still true, is not as pressing. Now that we have active bureaucrats, we can confirm accounts just as quickly as we did before with EWs. In fact, there are very few EWs now that are not also bureaucrats.
So some of us have proposed that we get rid of the EW usergroup entirely. Then elections would be for admins, not EWs; and (I guess?) any current EWs would become admins.
Thoughts?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:32, 18 February 2018 (CET)
- I always saw the EW role as a way to gain trust in users, before giving them full admin permissions, however, I do mostly agree with you.
-Vuton- (Talk 💬 | Contribs 💾 | Pages 📚) 14:37, 18 February 2018 (CET)- Support! Here are some ideas upon what we could do:
Unlike Cazzy's server, we shouldn't get rid of one of the EWs for no reason at all. We should have admin in place of EW and per election, those admins would be upgraded to bureaucrats. Ernie told me that we'd have admins for a few months, then upgrade them to bureaucrat. I prefer this idea. It's not necessary and confusing now.16:38, 18 February 2018 (CET)- Good arguments, but perhaps it's still a good idea to have a "two stage way" to admin rights? The important thing would be to have a acceptable difference in rights between admin and EWs.
MartinWollenweber Talk Contribs Directory 09:04, 19 February 2018 (CET)- But really, I don't see the point in EW. 12:29, 19 February 2018 (CET)
- I agree with Martin. The only major right EWs have other than admins is
protect
, so EWs can't edit pages that only some more experienced users such as admins can edit effectively (such as the front page). I also think EWs should get all other perms such asundelete
, etc. so they can maintain the Wiki as stated in their position description. But then there wouldn't be an acceptable difference in rights between admins and EWs. - My thoughts:
- Delete EW role and promote directly to admin.
- Protect admin only pages (such as the FP) as bureaucrat only. This means adding that protection level.
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 17:38, 19 February 2018 (CET)
- I feel like protecting admin only pages as bureaucrat only would be editlockedpages all over again - but hey, the FP is protected for a reason, so it's not too big of a deal. Support.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 06:32, 21 February 2018 (CET)- Support! This makes sense as the roles aren't really different. EWs could definitely serve better with more adminship positions. I also support the idea of new protection level.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 15:21, 3 March 2018 (CET)
- Support! This makes sense as the roles aren't really different. EWs could definitely serve better with more adminship positions. I also support the idea of new protection level.
- I feel like protecting admin only pages as bureaucrat only would be editlockedpages all over again - but hey, the FP is protected for a reason, so it's not too big of a deal. Support.
- I agree with Martin. The only major right EWs have other than admins is
- But really, I don't see the point in EW.
- Good arguments, but perhaps it's still a good idea to have a "two stage way" to admin rights? The important thing would be to have a acceptable difference in rights between admin and EWs.
- Support! Here are some ideas upon what we could do:
Just note: this would likely re-introduce an "editlockedpages" equivalent and also promote every current EW to admin.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:25, 3 March 2018 (CET)
- so can remove the usergroup now?
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 01:50, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think we should remove the EW usergroup. As Ken said, the two reasons aren't strong enough to keep this group. There just isn't a reason to have EWs.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)- Not done?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 22:00, 1 July 2018 (UTC)- Nah, I'll mark this as Done in favor of Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Let's change EW stuff moar.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:00, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nah, I'll mark this as Done in favor of Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#Let's change EW stuff moar.
- Not done?
- I think we should remove the EW usergroup. As Ken said, the two reasons aren't strong enough to keep this group. There just isn't a reason to have EWs.
Changing S:NOSP
Done
In the Scratch Jam topic, most of my motivation for opposition was because S:NOSP disallows featuring user-generated content on the Wiki. However, after the transfer, I believe this should be changed a little bit.
Last night, I realized one crucial flaw with the rule after the transfer: the Wiki itself is now user-generated content. Therefore, technically the page Scratch Wiki itself would break it if it weren't for the Scratch Team involvement occasionally (cough Wiki Wednesday cough). Because of this, I propose a rule change that might satisfy everyone (and the now-moot topic above): Instead of requiring official Scratch Team sponsorship, I think that if something deserves a place on the Wiki, it only needs to have either at least one Scratch Team member involved or be directly related to Scratch. For example, the above Scratch Jam fits both of those conditions - it's a Scratch Jam and it had Lifay involved. However, Scratch Jams would not get a Scratch Wiki: page because they are not directly Wiki related. As to my previous argument that user-generated content would provoke spite, I believe now (though I didn't before) that a single Scratch Team member or a clear relationship with Scratch is enough to quell such hatred.
What do you think about this rule change? Are there unintentional side effects I failed to mention? Or is there some extra advantage you know about? What are your thoughts?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- First of all thanks for driving this! The least one Scratch Team member involved or be directly related to Scratch is a good start. Where would that sentence go in? There is already a point in S:NOSP: Topics that have been considered important/notable enough in Scratch's history by a majority of wiki editors that they deserve an article. (ex. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.).
- I would also suggest to add the Scratch Club decisions here, since they are results of a discussion of several responsible people, all results are documented and Martin is typically taking part. The Scratch Club meeting originated from the German wiki, but many decisions of the Wiki transition have been discussed there. There is also an english-speaking international version of it, all thinks related to a non-german Wiki should be discussed there. The reason why I want to have Martin in is that he is the official main reponsible of all Wikis now and the guy carrying all the financial and legal risk. Note that this would be just a seat in the council, not a dictatorship.
- So my suggestion is to extend the point as follows:
- Topics that have been considered important/notable enough in Scratch's history (e.g. endorsement by a ST team member, a documented Scratch Club decision, or a majority of wiki editors) that they deserve an article. (ex. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.).
- For the second part, I don't fully get the requirement of wiki-related. After all most of the articles are about Scratch and not related to the Wiki. I think the main criteria should be being Scratch-related and being notable. For example the Scratch Jam, in its current form, should not get its own page because it appears to get not too many submissions and therefore is most likely smaller than many studios on Scratch, however if, let's say, a Scratch becomes more popular in the gamedev scene because of this or some notable YouTube or Switch streamers cover the event (just wishful thinking :-) ), it would be notable and could have its own page. To give another example, if Snap! would not have its own page it would deserve one because of its importance in teaching and as a follow-up language for Scratch, despite being not directly related to the Scratch page or the wiki.
Frodewin (talk | contribs) 06:52, 12 April 2018 (UTC)- There's an English-speaking international Scratch Club?? Where do I join??
- I think it would be better to adapt the point like this:
“ | Exceptions to this rule include topics receiving endorsement from a Scratch Team member, documented Scratch Club decisions, topics enormously important to Scratch culture (e.g. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.), or other topics agreed on by a majority of Wiki editors. | ” |
- The related-to-Wiki requirement is about getting pages in the Scratch Wiki namespace rather than the mainspace, don't mind it - I shouldn't have brought it up, as it's a topic for another day.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:22, 12 April 2018 (UTC)- A slight modification.
- The related-to-Wiki requirement is about getting pages in the Scratch Wiki namespace rather than the mainspace, don't mind it - I shouldn't have brought it up, as it's a topic for another day.
“ | Exceptions to this rule include topics receiving endorsement from a Scratch Team member, documented Scratch Club decisions, topics enormously important to Scratch culture (e.g. Kaj, Removed Pac-Man Project, etc.), or other topics agreed on by a majority of Wiki editors and administrators. | ” |
- Also I hate the be the naysayer here: but can we clarify the phrase "endorsement from a Scratch Team member"? Wouldn't that mean that every person followed by a Scratch Team member would be notable enough to deserve an article?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:39, 12 April 2018 (UTC)- A follow is not an endorsement. A follow simply indicates that the ST member likes the user's content and wants to see when they release more - it does not indicate that the ST member is "sponsoring" the user, like they are when they help organize a Scratch Jam.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)- Ah. The never-ending Internet debate about whether a like = endorsement. RT != Endorsement!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 19:11, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
- Ah. The never-ending Internet debate about whether a like = endorsement. RT != Endorsement!
- A follow is not an endorsement. A follow simply indicates that the ST member likes the user's content and wants to see when they release more - it does not indicate that the ST member is "sponsoring" the user, like they are when they help organize a Scratch Jam.
Lol.
Cυƨтσмнαcκεя ( тαʟκ | cσптяıв ) 00:08, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
- My executive decision on this is to add "Topics that are confirmed to have involved at least one Scratch Team member" to the bulleted list of exceptions to the rule. I don't think "documented Scratch Club" decisions is related to Scratch; those would likely be in projectspace pages, which have different rules.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)- This topic is now Done.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 21:41, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- This topic is now Done.
Change the colour of Template:Welcome
Done
I think it's time for a change. The reason we chose this specific colour was because it was the colour of the navigation bar. Now it's changed.
12:20, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support.
Purplewolves (talk | contribs) 03:48, 14 June 2018 (UTC)- The color was made to match the navigation bar? Huh! I never knew that!
- Semi-support in that case, I guess. On the pros side, it'll match the header; on the cons side, it may look a little more foreboding - to me, the header purple is an "angry" purple, while the Scratch blue is a "welcoming" blue.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
Page restoration
I noticed a page was a little messed up. I went ahead and recreated a mockup of the page and placed it in my sandbox. Thoughts on the mockup?
Original: Scratch Wiki:Block Plugin Bugs
Mockup: User:Banana439monkey/sandbox
Do we think I'm ready to push to that page?
05:41, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Wiki Wednesday protection
Done
Hi there! Can an admin please protect the current Wiki Wednesday article (Animated GIF)? Thanks
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 19:19, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:54, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
Adding Template:Blocked
Done
On the Scratch Wiki, there are a lot of blocked users. There is currently no template to show that they are blocked. Doing this has a number of advantages:
- Showing that the user is blocked if they have not written that on their page
- Having all the statistics right on the userpage
- On the blocked use list, you can't access the username of the users, so this template allows you to know the username of the blocked user
- Having a formal system of blocked user information
Should we create this template, or is it okay to go with the block list and user statements?
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) 20:30, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Doing this has a number of disadvantages:
- The Scratch Team can have a reason to disallow linking to us, rendering us as unmoderated.
- Scratch doesn't do it.
- Special:BlockList was removed from our view for a reason. The user list displaying blocked users is bad enough. 20:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- No, this is not allowed at all. This template purposely does not exist, simply because WE DO NOT PUBLICISE OUR BLOCKS. If a user is blocked, it stays between them and the blockee. This template will just cause drama.
Daring Sailor [ Talk | Contribs | More... ] 20:58, 28 June 2018 (UTC)- Template:Blocked user was deleted a long time ago. Reasons are mentioned above ^.
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 23:26, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
- Rejected. Blocks are kept as quiet as possible. We are not Wikipedia.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Rejected. Blocks are kept as quiet as possible. We are not Wikipedia.
- No, this is not allowed at all. This template purposely does not exist, simply because WE DO NOT PUBLICISE OUR BLOCKS. If a user is blocked, it stays between them and the blockee. This template will just cause drama.
Adding a protection extension
I'm unsure of the name, but Wikipedia has a symbol to signify a page has been protected when reading the page, and its level. The image looks like a padlock. Possibly we could add that extension here, since it may just be useful for seeing protection levels when viewing pages?
12:26, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- It's not an extension, it's actually a template using a built-in MW feature. The {{featured}} template uses the same feature. We don't need to signify that a page has been protected, though - when you open the pencil menu, it either says "edit" or "view source", which makes it pretty clear whether you can edit it.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:39, 29 June 2018 (UTC)- But then that means nothing if it's edit source and it's protected. 16:01, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- But then that means nothing if it's edit source and it's protected.
British VS American English
What English should we use on the wiki?
asqwde talk | contribs 15:07, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- I don't know, but I'd suggest using whichever one you'd use outside of of wiki. But on thw whole, American English is a good idea as Scratch is based in America after all.
Redglitter (Talk ~ Contributions ~ 541 edits) 15:15, 29 June 2018 (UTC)- When adding a part, use either form. However, because the primary language is English (US), please do not edit pages changing English (US) to English (UK). Vice versa is acceptable. 16:29, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- According to Scratch Wiki:Editing Conventions, use American English when creating new articles, as well as for all titles, but if an article with British English was grandfathered in then stay consistent with the article.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:26, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- According to Scratch Wiki:Editing Conventions, use American English when creating new articles, as well as for all titles, but if an article with British English was grandfathered in then stay consistent with the article.
- When adding a part, use either form. However, because the primary language is English (US), please do not edit pages changing English (US) to English (UK). Vice versa is acceptable.
A better system of replying
Okay, so right now, the only way of replying is using indents. That's a basic form of replying, but it is so difficult to see which message you are replying to. The other way is by removing indents, but it makes the indenting look ugly. This new idea introduces a template called indent. It indents the message, like outdent, making indenting more beautiful and easier to read.
15:56, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
- Support!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 20:34, 29 June 2018 (UTC)- I strongly disagree. Though it may look better, in the source code it won't. Which looks more appealing to the eye? This?
Message :Reply ::Reply to reply
- Or this?
Message {{indent}}Reply {{indent}}{{indent}}Reply to reply
- Or this, if we're smart about it?
Message {{indent}}Reply {{indent|2}}Reply to reply
- The first way is way more concise. Besides, using a template means proposing a change like the Wiki has never seen since the transfer, and for the sole reason of making things look "more beautiful" when even the beauty is 美中不足!
- Unless you can think of a supreme technical reason to make this change that I can't refute, I remain strongly opposed to this idea.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:41, 30 June 2018 (UTC)- Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on here, just popping in! What I am a little confused about is how the template would make it more clear who you are replying to. Could you elaborate on that a bit? Thanks banana!
03:57, 30 June 2018 (UTC)- I guess that system in the source code is ugly, but it's ugly the way you do it right now. 08:04, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- I find the current system perfectly pleasing to the eye, in both source and parsed.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:12, 30 June 2018 (UTC)- Then possibly we could enforce that system? 18:31, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
- Then possibly we could enforce that system?
- I find the current system perfectly pleasing to the eye, in both source and parsed.
- I guess that system in the source code is ugly, but it's ugly the way you do it right now.
- Hi all! It's been a while since I've been on here, just popping in! What I am a little confused about is how the template would make it more clear who you are replying to. Could you elaborate on that a bit? Thanks banana!
Compliment Tuesday! June 26th 2018
Welcome to the Fourth Compliment Tuesday! June 26th 2018.
- What is Compliment Tuesday?
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
- How to Compliment
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday
- Compliments
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
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Drunken_Sailor (talk | contribs) | |
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) | |
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) | |
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs) |
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KJRYoshi07 (talk | contribs) |
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Bigpuppy (talk | contribs) |
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CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) |
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jvvg (talk | contribs) |
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Jakel181 (talk | contribs) |
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MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) |
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ErnieParke (talk | contribs) |
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Apple502j (talk | contribs) |
The next CT is July 3rd 2018! See You then!
“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
” |
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:54, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
- Nice!
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:38, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
The next CT has come out so now this is done
нεllσυηιcσяηs2 (тαlк║cσηтяιвs║ρяσғιlε) 21:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Compliment Tuesday! July 3rd, 2018
Welcome to the Fifth Compliment Tuesday! July 3rd, 2018.
- What is Compliment Tuesday?
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
- How to Compliment
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday
- Compliments
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
kenny2scratch (talk | contribs) |
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makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) | |
jvvg (talk | contribs) |
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bigpuppy (talk | contribs) |
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Asqwde (talk | contribs) | |
CrazyBoy826 (talk | contribs) | |
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jakel181 (talk | contribs) |
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The next CT is July 10th, 2018! See you then!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:50, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- Note: I'm taking over CT while jakel181 is away, he'll be back for the next CT.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:52, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
Scratcharchiveasun
So, I've been surfing through the Wiki, and noticed a lot of the references are from this, a website devoted for the archives of the 1.x forums. Does anyone know who discovered this website, and who Andrew Sun is? (He seems to be website creator)
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 00:24, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- When the Scratch website migrated to 2.0, one of the things that wasn't transferred over was the old forums. The ST kept an archive of the forums at
archive.scratch.mit.edu
for a while, but then they decided that they didn't want to waste resources on it. Blob8108 asked them if he could take over the archive, so they gave the data to him and he hosted it onscratchforums.blob8108.com
for another while, but then the cost of hosting it became too much and he asked for someone to take over the archives. Andrew Sun, better known as comp09, volunteered and put the archives on the current domain.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:54, 4 July 2018 (UTC)- Ok, thanks!
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 11:57, 4 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 04:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
- Ok, thanks!
Remove the {{Protect}} Template?
The protect template is unused now. What users normally do is comment on a sysop's talk page asking for a protect. Should we remove it?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:28, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
- Actually, we should use this template rather than posting to an admin's talk, because with the template all admins can check it.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 04:30, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
Minor change to {{open userpage}}
There have been a few cases where users have added {{open userpage}} to others' userpages without permission. To prevent this from happening in the future, I have added a rule to the abuse filter where you cannot add or remove the template from others' userpages. I have also updated the warning message to make it more obvious to a user why their edit is not allowed.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:19, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
Protected page edit
Hi, can a EW Plus edit the page Animated GIF and replace it with the contents here I fixed it according to S:STYLE
asqwde talk | contribs 09:45, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
- No. That's too minor an edit to need a protected edit.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:52, 5 July 2018 (UTC)- What difference does it make whether it is minor or not?
asqwde talk | contribs 11:41, 5 July 2018 (UTC)- The difference is that the edit isn't actually needed - it's completely fine without it.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:27, 5 July 2018 (UTC)- I guess this means the edit should be postponed until the article isn't featured anymore? -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 10:22, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
- I guess this means the edit should be postponed until the article isn't featured anymore? -
- The difference is that the edit isn't actually needed - it's completely fine without it.
- What difference does it make whether it is minor or not?
Ken is on a trip
“ | Tomorrow, I'm leaving for Germany to visit Martin. I'll be there from tomorrow until the 5th of August.
While I'm there, I will be in the German timezone - so if you have anything you need me to do, it's best to keep in mind that I'm not in the HK timezone. Also, I'll have whatever command-line access to the Wiki that I request - i.e. I will have SSH access to the Wiki servers. So if there's something server-side that needs doing, I can probably do it faster than the other admins while I'm there, since I'll have command-line access instead of plain FTP. |
” |
– Yesterday at 9:12 PM, Ken on Discord |
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 23:16, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
Compliment Tuesday! July 10th 2018
Welcome to the Sixth Compliment Tuesday! July 10th 2018.
What is Compliment Tuesday?
Compliment Tuesday is a way of showing appreciation to other Wikians. Feel free to congratulate someone for finishing a large page, or even just give minor thanks for a minor edit. Just remember to keep everything positive!
How to Compliment
We have a whole wiki page on it! You can find it here: Compliment Tuesday
Compliments
The Compliments are *drum roll please*
User | Compliments |
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Bigpuppy (talk | contribs) |
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Asqwde (talk | contribs) |
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“ | There are many more people on this wiki who deserve these comments just as much as those who received them. :) Everyone is special and brings there own ideas. The more of us there are, the better the community spirit. Sadly, I must sign off now- Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:06, 13 June 2018 (UTC) |
” |
The next CT is July 17th 2018! See you then!
Jakel181 (talk | contribs) 12:26, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
Adding Template:Good Guidelines
Not done I think we need a template for pages that would usually break the Wiki Guidelines but have exceptions made for them. It would look like this:
This article or section has content that would usually break the Wiki Guidelines. However, an exception has been made for it because . |
Source code:
{{Header Template
|[[File:Yes check.png|25px]]
|This article or section has content that would usually break the [[Scratch Wiki:Guidelines|Wiki Guidelines]]. However, an exception has been made for it because {{{1|}}}.}
Example pages:
Kaj
Removed Pac-Man Project
Scratch in the Media/SpaceX Falcon 9 Lander
Should we create this template?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:09, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Already have something like it.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 16:47, 11 July 2018 (UTC)- I think such exceptions are rare enough that it's OK to re-create it on every exceptional page.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:31, 11 July 2018 (UTC)- @NYCDOT: What do you mean by "Already have something like it"?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)- UPDATE TO MY LAST EDIT: I notified NYCDOT on their talk page. He/she said that we could just use Header Template.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:13, 16 July 2018 (UTC)- Done?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:13, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done?
- UPDATE TO MY LAST EDIT: I notified NYCDOT on their talk page. He/she said that we could just use Header Template.
- @NYCDOT: What do you mean by "Already have something like it"?
- I think such exceptions are rare enough that it's OK to re-create it on every exceptional page.
Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls
I don't know why Category:Pages with too many expensive parser function calls is there. Should we delete it?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- Same, i think it should be deleted.
asqwde talk | contribs 16:42, 11 July 2018 (UTC)- No! It's a system category that, as the name suggests, contains pages with too many expensive parser function calls (expensive means it uses a lot of resources to call). It should ideally be empty, but is unfortunately usually not.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 16:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- No! It's a system category that, as the name suggests, contains pages with too many expensive parser function calls (expensive means it uses a lot of resources to call). It should ideally be empty, but is unfortunately usually not.
- Done yeah it shouldn't be deleted by above
- KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 11:57, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
References Forum Topic
We all want the wiki to be as accurate and trustworthy as possible. A way we can make it trustworthy is by adding references. But some articles haven't got enough references and finding references is hard work. References need to be:
- Accurate
- Trustworthy
- Reliable
That's a lot of work to get a good reference. Help:References provides more info on references. It's hard for several people to get all the references when you look at how many pages link to Citation needed there are a lot of pages!
I suggest we make a forum topic, that says all / most of the pages that need references and get the help of scratchers. We can tell them what makes a good reference and ask if anyone can find or get a reference and if they do they can link us to it. Then one of the wiki editors can add it to the page.
I think this is a good idea as it will help make the wiki accurate and trustworthy. What do others think?
asqwde talk | contribs 17:12, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- I think having a post that directly lists the pages will be too hard to maintain. It would be better to instead link to the list of pages transcluding Template:Citation needed on the post. Then anyone can contribute references in posts on that topic. It would also be nice to have the people contribute their references according to the format, so we should link to or quote that.
- I do like the idea! It might also be better to have a Wiki admin start the topic (as with the CP topic), but you will definitely be credited.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:55, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
Support
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 18:11, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:11, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Support and No Support Templates
There are a lot of ideas posted on the CP and talk pages including:
- Merging
- Deletion
- New ideas for the wiki
I think we should have a template which says whether users support or do not support those ideas. Thoughts?
asqwde talk | contribs 17:27, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
- You can just do:
{{done|Support}} and {{not done|No support}}
- Support and No support
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:29, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
The All Scratch Wikis page
Done
I found that de:Scratch-Wiki:Alle Scratch Wikis is broken. Can someone fix it?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 20:31, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
- I'll be working on that later. I know exactly why it's broken. Doing...
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:02, 13 July 2018 (UTC)- Done.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:34, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done.
:'P Template
Emoji template, exists on Scratch. Should we create it?
20:18, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
- Go ahead, but don't call it ":'P", that'll be hard to type. Make the title a word of some sort. The Template:E parameter should be :'P though.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 20:19, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents
If a user clicks the Website image, the link is broken Can a sysop change it to go to Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 17:13, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
- I fixed it with a redirect. Done
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 00:45, 16 July 2018 (UTC)- Not done The redirect won't meet the capitalization rule!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 06:07, 16 July 2018 (UTC)- Fixed and deleted the redirect
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:24, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- Fixed and deleted the redirect
- Not done The redirect won't meet the capitalization rule!
Change Template:Shortcut
Template:Shortcut's links to the shortcut pages are just [[{{{_}}}]]
. Should we change them to {{plain link|https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/index.php?title={{{_}}&redirect=no|{{{_}}}}}?
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 16:30, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
- No! The shortcut just shows the redirects, there's no need to break a style guideline just to show the redirect page itself. If you really need to see the page itself, any page that's redirected to will have a link to the redirect page - use that instead.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:14, 16 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 03:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
A Question about protection
Hi, os i know there is a level of protection for EWplus, but as far as i am aware there is another level of protection so that only registered users can edit that page. But can't unregistered users not edit pages already?
asqwde talk | contribs 06:17, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Have you ever seen an IP address user make an edit? Anything in the recent changes where an IP address is the username? The answer is no. Anonymous editing is disabled here. You must have an account to edit; you must go through the request process to have an account.
- The protection levels we have are:
autoconfirmed
- Allows only registered users to edit. This is pretty useless, since all editors are registered anyway, but we can't remove it since it's a MediaWiki default level.
sysop
- Allows only administrators to edit. This is only used for very high-traffic pages like Scratch Wiki Home.
wikian
- Allows only Wikians to edit. A Wikian must have 50 edits and a month-old account. This is used on pages that should be editable by most regular users, but that we don't want new users to mess up.
botplus
- Allows only bots, EWs, and administrators to edit. This is used on pages that are automatically updated by a bot but shouldn't be edited by normal users.
EWplus
- Allows only EWs and administrators to edit. This is used on pages that shouldn't be edited by normal users but should be edited by EWs, not just admins.
- Hope that clears everything up!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)- Thanks, but if the autoconfirmed has no use, why is Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page protected with it?
asqwde talk | contribs 09:49, 17 July 2018 (UTC)- Thanks for pointing that out! It's now wikian-protected.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:55, 17 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 03:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
- Thanks for pointing that out! It's now wikian-protected.
- Thanks, but if the autoconfirmed has no use, why is Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Front Page protected with it?
News Entry
- July 16, 2018 — Scratch Camp Make Art
- The first week of Scratch Camp has begun. The theme for the first week is Make Art. The description says: For the first week of Scratch Camp, try your hand at art! Sculpture, painting, pen art, or origami, the possibilities never end!
asqwde talk | contribs 11:48, 17 July 2018 (UTC) - Done with some edits.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:52, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Protection Level
auto-confirmed -> wikian:
- Scratch Wiki:Welcome — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect redirects
- Template:Navbox/doc — unprotected editing, sysop moving
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Program — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Tutorials — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Website — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect redirects
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Other Tutorials — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Scratch Program Tutorials — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Math Tutorials — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Scripting Tutorials — Done
- Scratch Wiki:Table of Contents/Forums — Done
auto-confirmed -> none:
- Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Help:Protected pages — Done
- User:KrIsMa/Templates - should be protected via AF — Done
- User:Swampert11 also — protected at wikian instead, the original protection was by author request
auto-confirmed -> EWplus:
- Template:Welcome — protected at wikian instead, no reason only EWs can edit it
sysop -> none:
- File:Common script 3.png — Done
- File:Common script 5.png — Done
- File:Common script 12.png It was used on Scratch Blog 1.4, but it doesn't exist now. So it doesn't have to be protected anyway. — Done
sysop -> EWplus or wikian:
- Talk:Scratch Wiki Home - I don't think we have to protect it as main is. Not many see it. — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect a redirect
- Talk:Main Page - same — completely unprotected instead, no need to protect a redirect
- Category:Scratch Wiki — no change, that's the root category
EWplus -> none:
- User:KrIsMa/Common.css — Done
- User:KrIsMa/common.css — Done
EWplus -> sysop:
- Scratch Wiki Home/The Scratch Wiki — no change, no need to prevent EWs
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 12:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've edited your post, marking what I ended up doing (I didn't want to copy it all myself :P)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:47, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Delete Request
- Scratch Wiki:Search Since it was replaced with Special:Search and seems to use an old extension that doesn't work. It's fully-protected.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 12:57, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 13:32, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
Adding DeleteOwn
The cool thing about this extension is that you can delete pages you authored, which frees EW time, plus probably isn't a huge concern, even for vandals. Most people actually accidentally create pages, then realise oh shoot, why did I make that page. now i've gotta ask an ew to delete it. Instead, they can delete it themself. Thoughts?
02:09, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Nice! How do we use it?
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 02:15, 18 July 2018 (UTC)- Um, no, we don't. Deleting your own articles would just be another opening for vandalism - it gives users an extra right to abuse. What if the creator of some major page suddenly decides to delete it?
- Deleting test pages isn't that big a hassle either. Just leave it be.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)- Maybe we could modify the extension to say, if the page has this much traffic, has several edit or/and is linked to, they can't delete it.
- What about OCD people? 03:55, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Then that's no different from just requesting it.
- OCD people: they can just request for it to be deleted.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 03:57, 18 July 2018 (UTC)- Otherwise they can.
- And impatient? 04:01, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Human processing of requests for deletion allow for much greater account of context - that is, a human will understand what's going on and not just blindly delete it if it meets requirements, whereas an extension will ignore the situation and just go for it.
- Patience is a virtue. Learn patience.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 04:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
“ | Patience is a virtue. Learn patience. | ” |
– Kenny2scratch |
KrIsMa user | talk | contribs | edits 02:32, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 03:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
Wheres compliment Tuesday?
Hi, it was Tuesday yesterday but there was no compliment Tuesday?!
asqwde talk | contribs 11:49, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- I just contacted Ken about it. If you were on discord...
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 12:27, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Update TOC Website
You need to update this. Move Newest Projects into removed rows.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 19:39, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Privacy policy
Our privacy policy links to the German wiki. Should we make one of our own?
19:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
- No. The German privacy policy is the legally accurate one. Our disclaimer is a rough (and outdated, now) translation of the German disclaimer.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 22:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 03:02, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
Some maybe interesting, maybe random statistics for you all.
This is all based on InterwikiBot's GA stats as of this revision; all pageviews are within the last 30 days as of that revision. All of these stats are also only based on the top 50 pages.
Total stats
- Average pageviews per page
- 1693.38 views
- Median pageviews per page
- 1022.5 views
- Average difference between pageviews
- 279.85714285714283 views per 2 pages
- Median difference between pageviews
- 23 views
- Average multiple of one page's views to the next highest page's views
- 1.0750302492044652 times per 2 pages
- Median multiple of one page's views to the next highest page's views
- 1.022749752720079 times
- Total pageviews
- 84669 views
Stats for highest datapoint: Scratch Wiki Home
- Views
- 14395
- Pulls up average viewcount by
- 259.2167346938777 views
- Difference to next highest, Scratch 3.0
- 5316 views
- Pulls up average difference by
- 104.91964285714283 views per 2 pages
- Multiple of next highest, Scratch 3.0
- Scratch Wiki Home is 1.585527040422954 times more popular
Stats for lowest datapoint: List of Bug Workarounds
- Views
- 682
- Pulls down average viewcount by
- 20.640408163265192 views
- Difference to next lowest, Creating a Quiz
- 14 views
- Pulls down average difference by
- 5.538690476190482 views per 2 pages
- Fraction of next lowest, Creating a Quiz
- Creating a Quiz is 1.0205278592375366 times more popular
Stats for median datapoints: Jumping and Cloud Data
- Views
- 1034 and 1011
- Changes average viewcount by
- -27.95333333333315 views
- Changes average difference by
- -5.351190476190482 views per 2 pages
- Changes average multiple by
- -0.001089177010091591 times
Enjoy!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Should we be thinking about ways to possibly increase these numbers?
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 14:44, 21 July 2018 (UTC)- It seriously depends on which number you're talking about.
- I think the objective is decrease the average difference and average multiple, while increasing average views and anything to do with it. Also decrease any "changes" or "pulls up" or "pulls down" values.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:24, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
A style tweak
Yo, just dropping by to announce a small SWS style change: I've updated the text colors to match the main site's new colors. Links are now slightly darker blue, and the body text is slightly lighter black. Font weights were shunned and are now either "bold" or "normal" - no crazy 700 or 300. Feel free to reply here or leave me a message on my talk with any questions.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 07:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- Cool!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 16:00, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
New Front Page Skin
The Scratch Website just got a new look because of Scratch 3.0. We need to update all the images to the new skin. Please upload new images to fit the new design of the Front Page.
CrazyBoy826 | Talk | 8,242 edits | Scratch 17:19, 22 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's fine, we've had plenty of outdated stuff. It's not crucial that everything is updated. It would be nice if people updated things, but it's not absolutely necessary.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 17:30, 22 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 02:57, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
Users Needed!
Hey... um... we need new users for Turkish Scratch Wiki. What should I do?
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 15:55, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- This isn't the best place to advertise - you could try posting in the Turkish forum or making a project about it. The people here mostly don't speak Turkish, I believe.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 15:57, 23 July 2018 (UTC) - Done
Dilek10 (talk | contribs) 16:34, 23 July 2018 (UTC)- It's great that you are so actively working on the turkish wiki! You can also direcly message turkish speaking users on the Scratch website and tell them about the turkish test wiki. To find turkish speaking users, maybe look for keywords in turkish language in the search or so? -
LiFaytheGoblin (talk | contribs) 18:32, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
- It's great that you are so actively working on the turkish wiki! You can also direcly message turkish speaking users on the Scratch website and tell them about the turkish test wiki. To find turkish speaking users, maybe look for keywords in turkish language in the search or so? -
Curator (front page)/List of Curators is now protected
See title. This is to prevent users from editing in the wrong places and disrupting WikiMonitor's automatic curator updates. "But Ken! How will we change the future curators list?" Behold, a new page: Curator (front page)/Future Curators. The protected list now transcludes that unprotected page. Because of caching issues, it may be a good idea to purge the list after editing the future curators page.
Just letting y'all know!
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:38, 24 July 2018 (UTC)
- Good idea!
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 13:29, 24 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:43, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
"Friend" Rank
How would people like to have a "friend" rank? The requirements would be recommending three people every month whom the administrators should send special invitations to fill out a wiki application. This may be beneficial to expanding the English language community with Scratchers whom you believe would make good wiki editors. The administrators would perform their own evaluation but would provide a special title for those who get three of their nominee's messaged. .
I don't think that a system currently exists to build this community in such a manner, and therefore I think it could be very constructive.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 01:59, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
- Huh? You mean a new usergroup? What privileges would such a usergroup have?
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 08:09, 26 July 2018 (UTC)- It's a title not an explicit usergroup.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 12:30, 26 July 2018 (UTC)- So you're suggesting a badge of honor when being on the Wiki in and of itself is not supposed to be a badge of honor? No thanks.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 12:32, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
- So you're suggesting a badge of honor when being on the Wiki in and of itself is not supposed to be a badge of honor? No thanks.
- It's a title not an explicit usergroup.
Outdated Reference Template
What do people think about having an outdated reference template where people could see which pages have references which need to updated to fit our new format. I'm having trouble editing some references on a slower device so it would be handy for me to be able to bookmark these pages in a helpful fashion.
Makethebrainhappy (talk | contribs) 23:59, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
- We have the {{dead link}} template for marking links that are outdated, I think it serves the same purpose.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 10:18, 28 July 2018 (UTC)- Done
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:42, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
- Done
ARCHIVE 100TH (125KB)
NOTE: These should be archived, too!
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:41, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
Lack of curiosity at Scratch Wiki?
Not done
I was a little bit astonished seeing no reaction to
and
Both GP (Programming Language) (de:GP (Programmiersprache)) and BeetleBlocks (de:Beetle Blocks] are great new scratch-based awaysome Programming Environments, created by the scratch-wide known inventors Eric Rosenbaum (MaKey MaKey) and John Maloney (main developer of Scratch for 10 years) & Jens Mönig (creator of BYOB & Snap!). Both innovations were presented at de:Scratch2015AMS. Because we are not as fluid in the English language we wrote German articles at the DACH-Scratch-Wiki about it. Furthermore there are more very interesting articles in the DACH Scratch Wiki that have no corresponding article in the English Scratch Wiki and additional there are innovations like TurtleStich and Tickle that have no article in any Scratch Wiki. (see Conference Program (english!!!)) and Conference Videos (English!!!) of de:Scratch2015AMS.
I thought it would be enough to shortly mention that. I thought many curious English scratch-wiki-authors would have a look the German articles, see that there is much English information linked to it, like Videos and other Webpages, have a look at the picture and google-translate the German text to get an impression and then start to create English articles about it here.
I also think that the innovations presented at the Scratch-Conferences and the Conferences them self are much underrepresented here at the English Scratch Wiki. I saw threads at this CP about "I wish I was at the wiki some years before when there where much more new articles left to be created" or threads about creating more icons for talk pages of the Wiki or other wiki-community-related things...I wonder how that fits to that utterly lack of curiosity about awesome innovations happening in the "World of Scratch" (excuse me for that provocative style...I hope that helps to get more reaction, so it's meant really positive ;-)
...Perhaps now I gave enough information to wake up the curiosity of some people? I am really looking forward what will happen
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 12:30, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
- I will work on an article about beetle blocks now. :)
JayceeMinecraft user | talk | contributions- Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 01:48, 15 November 2015 (UTC)- What's about The Scratch Song, GP (Programming Language), TurtleStich, Tickle and other innovations mentioned at de:Scratch2015AMS? Who want's to write English articles about it? Also BeetleBlocks seems to be not fished...
- see:.
- Great start for article BeetleBlocks! :-) I added the Interwiki-Link. You could get pictures from the German article.
Not Done!!
Not done because there are still many articles to write suggested above
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:51, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- Hey there! I'll start working on TurtleStitch and once I'm done with that, I'll probably do another one. Thanks! Here is the TurtleStich one: http://wiki.scratch.mit.edu/wiki/TurtleStich#About_TurtleStich
AghaCool (talk | contribs) 13:31, 3 January 2016 (UTC)- Great, Thanks!
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 21:14, 3 January 2016 (UTC)- I got started on Tickle. It's quite short as I found it difficult to find information. If anyone could help, that would be great!
Hamish752 (talk | contribs) 11:34, 29 January 2016 (UTC)- @Hamish752: Thanks for making a start with Tickle :-)
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:53, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Hamish752: Thanks for making a start with Tickle :-)
- I got started on Tickle. It's quite short as I found it difficult to find information. If anyone could help, that would be great!
- Great, Thanks!
List of potential articles and sources
(Please feel free to at potential articles and sources, but discuss in the above section, to keep that here a "working list"
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2016 (UTC))
- BeetleBlocks - Thanks for starting to user:JayceeMinecraft!
- TurtleStich - Thanks for starting to user:AghaCool!
- GP (programming language) - Thanks for starting to user:ErnieParke!
- Tickle - Thanks for starting to user:Hamish752!
- Scratch Song
- Video of Mitch Resnick and Attendies and Organizers of Scratch2015AMS singing the scratch song
Not Done!!
Not done because until now there is nobody who has the knowledge and takes the responsibility for that Blocks Plugin Tasks at the Scratch Wikis. The only persons I know who, could have the knowledge are user:blob8108 and user:JSO but as I understand it, they would not like to take the responsibility, so we must find somebody else who will build up the knowledge (must know something about Javascript and Wiki-Administration). Who?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 16:58, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
- I found out how to edit the Blocks Plugin so it works for a specific language. It's in fact very easy. I tested it with the dutch wiki and it worked. Which wikis still need the Blocks Plugin? Japanese, Hungarian and Russian? - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 17:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
- Dmith our russian Wiki Admin suggested to make a topic about this in the Advanced Topics to ask for help. What do you think? Who would like to create such a topic? - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 14:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
- I think that's a good idea, specially to find help from outside the wiki, perhaps by the scratch team or advanced programmer who want to join and help us. Who is able to invest some time to modarare this? I think the best candidate would be one sysop/admin of the international Wikis (see de:WikiWatch) because of the direct access to the plugin. Who of you is interested?
MartinWollenweber (talk | contribs) 10:41, 16 January 2016 (UTC)- I've also talked about it with P110 and he'll check it ou. So maybe let's wait till SC on monday :) - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- Done - the articles have been created.
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 11:53, 4 May 2018 (UTC)- Can I move this to an archive? It's done.
NYCDOT [ Talk Page | Contributions | Directory ] 15:49, 22 June 2018 (UTC)- Yes, it should be archived.
Millie S (talk|961 contribs|directory) 01:26, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, it should be archived.
- Can I move this to an archive? It's done.
- Done - the articles have been created.
- I've also talked about it with P110 and he'll check it ou. So maybe let's wait till SC on monday :) - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 13:24, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
- I think that's a good idea, specially to find help from outside the wiki, perhaps by the scratch team or advanced programmer who want to join and help us. Who is able to invest some time to modarare this? I think the best candidate would be one sysop/admin of the international Wikis (see de:WikiWatch) because of the direct access to the plugin. Who of you is interested?
- Dmith our russian Wiki Admin suggested to make a topic about this in the Advanced Topics to ask for help. What do you think? Who would like to create such a topic? - LiFaytheGoblin (Talk) 14:27, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
It will be archived next time the CP is archived (though do mention it once it's time, I'll probably forget)
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 02:38, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
Things We have to Do
- ST, please change the forum BBCode [wiki].
- DoneAdmins of international Scratch Wiki, please change the interwikis!
- maybe Done PyWikiBot owner in ALL INTERNATIONAL WIKIS, please check the "family file" again! This is placed at "/pywikibot/families/(family name).py". Change the domain to "en.scratch-wiki.info" and the version to 1.28.3
- Done Bot Owner of this wiki, please check things like above.
Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 12:43, 16 February 2018 (UTC)