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Logging server faults

See dedicated subpage
kenny2scratch Talk Contribs Directory 09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

The Scratch Mod Wiki

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

create a wiki about scratch mods. it would be good to document scratch mods which aren't allowed rn. we have modshare so why not modwiki? mods.scratch-wiki.info
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 21:38, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER Sure, but how many editors would be invested in such a wiki? There are enough things to keep me busy on the regular Scratch Wiki that I know I wouldn't ever go on a Scratch Mod Wiki.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 22:00, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER This is a very cool idea, and it would be beneficial to the Scratch modding community. However, I'm not sure it's something that the folks hosting the Scratch Wiki will be able to tackle efficiently along with all the other Scratch Wikis. More moderators might be needed to watch for bad edits on both wikis, the servers might need to be upgraded, etc. I'm not someone who moderates/hosts the wiki, so I don't definitively know how hard it'd be, but that's just my guess. Perhaps you could consider creating an unofficial Scratch Mod Wiki on another site, like Miraheze? (One word of advice: If you do go down that path, please don't use Fandom. As someone who adopted a wiki there and is trying to become independent, it's riddled with ads and, due to its forking policy, will only make things more complicated for you should you choose to move somewhere else.)

Minikiwigeek2 (talk | contribs) 03:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

In my opinion, a mod wiki would be scope creep. We already have our hands full maintaining the Wikis for the various languages (I just spent about 15 minutes having to deal with the latest round of 503s/508s), and mods aren't as related to Scratch as most of the rest of the content here. Anyone is welcome to create their own Wiki, but I don't think the Scratch Wiki Team is going to be willing to invest any resources into it, and I also doubt the Scratch Team would link to it in the official capacity they link to this Wiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 23:20, 9 January 2025 (UTC)

Update Pages for Debug Update

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Scratch has recently released a large update adding multiple features to the editor and website. A lot of these features I can't even access because a lot of them are only available for New Scratchers (and I'm not making a new account just for this).

Could we start working on updating the wiki to reflect these new changes? I also created the Debugging Help page as that is a new feature part of this update.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 17:46, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

I'll add a mention of Debugging Help to the Scratch 3.0 article. Also, I'm probably just not looking hard enough, but what other changes did they make to the website, exactly? I don't see anything else that's different...?

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 20:49, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

@Minikiwigeek2 See topic:795061

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

20:57, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER Oh okay, thank you! I have browser extensions enabled which modify my navbar, and since I click on the Ideas page about once every year, I wouldn't have noticed a change if I didn't have them on lol

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 21:34, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Need help with fixing double redirects

Resolved ^{(since 14:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC))}

Yes, I need help with fixing these after large block page moving. The large move caused several double redirects to be made. Fixing them will help with the redirect traffic. (i am about to go to bed so that is why i need help)
ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 07:26, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I fixed most of it, but the rest of the double redirects are in userspace, so I can't edit them without permission from the user with the content (or an admin). I'll leave them alone for now

ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 17:09, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

More articles have entered the list, so this still isn't resolved.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 18:23, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

I've fixed all of the mainspace double redirects, so this is

Done.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 14:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

February Featured Images

Hello everyone! Happy New Year! I have awoken from my slumber to update the featured images. It's been over a year since they were last updated—I apologize for the delay. If you have any suggestions for next month's featured images, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 10:01, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

FINALLY, the featured images were updated. Here is my suggestion (will add more):

File:Alt-Click.png - this is an obscure feature, and I think more scratchers should know about it.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

21:23, 31 December 2024 (UTC)

File:RemixVisualization.png I have an Idea Why don't we feature a remix tree?

R4WU (talk | contribs) 09:46, 4 January 2025 (UTC)

Updated

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 06:34, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Remove mentions of the modern TBG forums.

TBG users are currently considering making the TBG forums 13+ (13+ sites are a no-go on Scratch), and there is a suggestion here which suggests to ban mentioning the TBG forums, as a very active user there has a link to a Discord server in their signature. In fact, the ST seems to be implementing this - the link in TIMAC's guidelines was removed after I reported the guidelines to implement this.

Please express your opinions by replying.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 22:14, 10 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER I'm definitely not the most qualified person to talk about this, but based on a quick read on the article, it seems to be a part of Scratch history we should strive to document. While it's not the biggest thing in the world, it would be a shame to remove this part of Scratch history which some people seem to enjoy. If the Scratch Team were to place a policy banning mentions of the TBG forum, we can just simply remove the link to the modern-day version and add a section about the Scratch Team's discontinuation of affiliation.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 02:51, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gdxfor, I am referring to the modern TBG forums. We can keep mentioning the old TBG forums, as they were on Scratch, and as a result were never 13+ and never would be. But the proposed policy would to ban links or mentions of the modern TBGs, which are currently considering separating from the Scratch community.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

10:02, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@Jvvg, Han614698, Minikiwigeek2, Ninjahanzo, you are invited to this discussion. Please leave your thoughts.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

11:47, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER I think we should wait until the Scratch Team says that it wouldn't be allowed to link to them, or they do make the site 13+ before we do anything. Unless at least one of these conditions are met in the future, it would be a

No support for now.

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 14:54, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER I also

Do not support for now. The TBGs haven't officially stated they want to be disassociated from Scratch - they've only run a poll about it to gather people's feedback. Additionally, Scratch and the Wiki have plenty of official links to sites hosting 13+ content. Scratch links to their Twitter account when the website goes down, the Wiki has an entire article listing all of Scratch's social media accounts, and while those aforementioned examples are links to Scratch-owned accounts, cubeupload (an image host that Scratch doesn't own but pushes heavily for Scratchers to use on the forums) has a link to their own Twitter account and Discord server in their footer. I think it'd be a good idea to reassess this suggestion later, if or when the TBGs and/or Scratch explicitly state they're no longer associated, but for now I feel it's a little too soon to take action.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 15:32, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER I

Somewhat do not support for now. Scratch and the Wiki are able to link to (13+) social media. There is existing content out of the linked Scratch pages in the media that are 13+. However, we can simply wait until Scratch takes action. By then, I would support, but for now, no support.

ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 19:44, 11 January 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add a news item

Resolved ^{(since 22:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC))}

I suggest that you add a news item about the new Scratch Design Studio, "Out in the Cold".
-unsigned comment by Pytherium (talk | contribs)

Done

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:09, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion: Millionified Scratch Wiki

Resolved ^{(since 08:19, 21 January 2025 (UTC))}

During my Scratchiversary, Millionified versions of articles would replace original versions of articles. Those who don't care could disable the feature, because why not. The feature is meant to celebrate.

Effects everywhere

Blue

The wiki would be mainly blue.

New icon

Look at the right of this page. Do you see a Scratch Cat in the puzzle sphere thingy? The Scratch Cat would be replaced with a Million Cat (a light blue Scratch Cat).

Link effects

When a cursor hovers over a link to my userpage, either of my talkpages, my contributions page, or any post I originally created, blue confetti appears. This could be disabled to reduce lag, but it's not recommended to do this for high performance computers.

Suggestions come to life

A few of my forum suggestions would come to life, such as:

The messages icon would be dark green.
A "RickrollShield" mode will protect you from links that lead you to a rickroll.

Whoops, I forgot to sign

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 22:46, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial Are you asking to change the wiki when it's the anniversary of your Scratch account? If so, your suggestion will definitely not be accepted. The Scratch Wiki is intended to be a place to learn about Scratch, not an advertising hub.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 22:58, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

It won't change the Wiki that much, but the Wiki will change. And that doesn't matter, it would be a place to learn about Scratch AND an advertising hub! The page-changing thing is inspired by AFD articles.

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 23:03, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial The Scratch Wiki is not going to go out of its way to advertise a specific Scratcher. If the Scratch Wiki doesn't change when it's my Scratch account's anniversary, it shouldn't for any other Scratcher either. Making the Scratch Wiki an advertising hub would also completely defeat the point of the Wiki, as everyone would be changing articles to include advertisements, and the Wiki would dissolve into mass chaos.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 23:26, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

No support, not just because of Gdxfor's reasons, but because it's practically impossible to implement.

Plenty of people join Scratch every day, and without a doubt, there's plenty of people who registered for Scratch the same day you did. If the Wiki were to implement this suggestion, it'd basically mean the Wiki would have to turn into a giant advertisement for a particular Scratcher every day they reach their Scratchiversary - and since a ton of people join Scratch daily, that means a lot of advertisements would be required per day. This is a weird example, but it'd basically be The Water Buffalo Song from VeggieTales realized - someone gets something cool that other people don't have, so people feel like they're entitled to that cool thing as well, so the Scratch Wiki gets a ton of nasty letters saying, "Where's my Scratch Wiki day? Why don't I have a Scratch Wiki day?" And are the Scratch Wiki prepared to deal with that? I don't think so.

Additionally, you mention your "forum suggestions coming to life", which falls outside the scope of the Wiki project. The Scratch Wiki does not have the ability to implement forum suggestions - the Scratch Wiki and the Scratch website are run by completely different people. I would suggest making a post in the Suggestions forum for that particular proposal instead - if not for the fact that your forum proposal suffers the exact same issue I just described.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 03:01, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

As said before, this would make the Wiki into an advertisement, which is not it's purpose. Even if the Wiki allowed advertising, why do you think that you should get featured on the Wiki? Secondly, they changed the navbar to purple for accessibility reasons I believe, wouldn't this make the Wiki less accessible to those who don't have an account?

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 13:32, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial

No support. I'm not an EW, but this is obviously rejected. If the Wiki is Millionified on your Scratchiversary, why don't we make it Ampified on mine? Or Jvvgified on his?

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:46, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER Lol I didn’t even think about that

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 04:14, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Making a userpage that redirects to mine

Resolved ^{(since 03:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC))}

Some people keep misspelling my username as "MillionOffical". So, can I make a userpage called "User:MillionOffical" that redirects to "User:MillionOfficial"?

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 23:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm gonna guess

You can't, because articles in the User:MillionOffical (note misspelling) userspace are meant to only be created and edited by the user MillionOffical (unless they give permission for other users to edit their pages). There's an unlikely (but possible) chance that someone on Scratch named MillionOffical could get a wiki account under the misspelled name, and having someone edit their user page to redirect to someone else's would likely be frowned upon.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 03:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Rickroll Category?

Resolved ^{(since 10:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC))}

I want to make a category called "Pages with Rickrolls" in order to protect other Wikians from rickrolls. Is this allowed?

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 16:49, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

Again, I am not an EW or admin, so I can't give a definitive answer, but

I assume the answer is no, for several reasons. First of all, are there really that many articles with Rickrolls, to the point that having an entire category to document them is justified? Are Rickrolls really that significant in regards to the Scratch Wiki mission, to the point that having an entire category to document them is justified?

I'd imagine that the majority of articles that do have Rickrolls are Scratch Wiki:April Fools articles, where Rickrolls are very much fine, to be expected, and undeserving of a warning. On the contrary, articles in the mainspace that include Rickrolls shouldn't even have them due to not being related to Scratch (a possible exception are the articles documenting trends.)

I know you say this category is meant to "protect other Wikians from Rickrolls", but there's nothing that Wikians need to be protected from in the first place — Rickrolls aren't malicious or harmful, they're harmless pranks involving a silly music video on the internet. Used in the right context (which they certainly are on the Wiki), Rickrolls are all in good, clean fun. And, hypothetically speaking, if a Rickroll was actually something inappropriate, it wouldn't even be included on the Wiki in the first place, let alone have an entire category to warn people about it.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 17:48, 17 January 2025 (UTC)

I agree. This category is largely useless. If someone replaces a link as a prank (except on AF pages), that is an issue.

Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 01:07, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I think this is obviously rejected so marking as resolved.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

10:29, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

[Suggestion] Interwiki for ocular-topic and ocular-post

Resolved ^{(since 01:51, 1 February 2025 (UTC))}

This would be useful for retrieving posts from dustbinned topics and keeping them as sources. Especially since the topic about the 2024-10-28 Outage was dustbinned, and the internet archive was down while the topic existed.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 11:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

I'm on the fence. While I do think it would be very helpful in the interest of preservation and providing context to posts that have since been removed, one also has to consider that if a topic/post is dustbinned, that could likely mean the Scratch Team (or the topic/post OP) don't want its information to stay publicly available (even if there are third-party workarounds). Having an official resource provide access to the removed posts through a third-party tool might go against the Scratch Team (or the OP's) wishes to hide the content.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 01:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Ocular is not an official Scratch Team project, and doesn't have the same level of authority and/or Scratch Team usage that YouTube and Wikipedia do, so I don't support. Making it an Interwiki link implies a certain level of endorsement that neither we nor the Scratch Team give. That doesn't mean that linking to Ocular isn't allowed at all, but we don't want to give the impression that it is an official Scratch Team project. For similar reasons, we don't have Interwiki for sites like TurboWarp.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@Jvvg Do we not already have this for the wayback machine, though, or am I misremembering? Do we endorse that?

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:31, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698: I do not see any Interwiki entries for the Wayback machine.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:44, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Can I make a Rickroll Agency Siggy template or will we have to use staff names?

Resolved ^{(since 16:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC))}

The siggy will be made for messages from the entire Rickroll Agency team. I won’t put it in mainspace.

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 16:19, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

You can do whatever as long as it is in your userspace and follows guidelines. [| Here's the guidelines.]

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 16:02, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

get rid of the double-space blocks.

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

There is a rendering glitch in the scratch wiki that causes scratchblocks with double spacing between :: to have an extra space at the end. After testing this does not happen on the forums or scratchblocks.github.io.

Example :: motion

The correct block should be:

Example::motion

If anyone could remove them all, or if an admin could update the mediawiki extension for scratchblocks to resolve the issue, this would be great.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 21:44, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER: We don't do any special rendering on our end, we just use the off-the-shelf scratchblocks JS. I'm looking into it, but can't make any guarantees I'll find anything anytime soon. If you come up with a fix, please feel free to submit a PR on our GitHub repo.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:24, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

As far as I know, scratchblocks rendering is client-side. The code for the first example is Example :: motion and the second is Example::motion. This bug does not affect comments (//), or new lines. If there are multiple spaces, they all get included as part of the block, too. My theory is the parser does not discard spaces before the ::, so they show up as spaces on the blocks.

Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 14:38, 23 January 2025 (UTC)

I could make a bot to do it. Should I add that to my bot request? (anytime i write scratchblocks i always do space before colons, so that'd be a recurring task)

50_scratch_tabs (talk | contribs) 20:17, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

@50_scratch_tabs I think that a general "scratchblocks fixer" bot would be a good idea for a request. It could fix indentation for C blocks, fix trailing brackets and parentheses, and other probably other stuff I can't think of right now.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 20:28, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

[Suggestion] "Paused feature" template

Resolved ^{(since 16:06, 8 February 2025 (UTC))}

This page or section documents something that, while not officially discontinued, has been unavailable for a prolonged period of time.

This'd be for things that are not discontinued, but also haven't been available in an unusually long time (for example, Scratch.org and Curator (front page)). You can also specify the return date for the feature, if there is one:

This page or section documents something that, while not officially discontinued, has been unavailable for a prolonged period of time. It is planned to make a full return on December 31, 2999.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 18:30, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Minikiwigeek2 I think that the template could work, although I'm not sure how many pages would actually use this template. Aside from that, my only other critique is that the "It is planned to make a full return in the future." should be either removed or set to a parameter, since there are many things which don't have official confirmation that they will return.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 19:29, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gdxfor Thanks for your feedback. I've gone and added a parameter to the last sentence, it can be removed using "return=no".

This page or section documents something that, while not officially discontinued, has been unavailable for a prolonged period of time.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 21:33, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@Minikiwigeek2 Do you know how many articles would use this template in total? Because I would be unsure of the template's usefulness if it was only usable on two articles.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 01:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

How long is 'long time' for it to be considered to have this template? 2 years? 1 year? 4 years? 8 years? Guessing 2 years.

ENDYOURENITE (talk | contribs) 15:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gdxfor Perhaps these articles?

Rotation style (AF) - Last edited 11 Jan 2022
() (List Block) - Last edited 27 November 2023
Stack Block (AF) - Last Edited 22 January 2022
Creative Commons License - Last Edited 30 March 2023
Scratch Modification (AF) - Last Edited 14 February 2021
Two-Dimensional Lists - Last Edited 30 October 2023
Block Categories (1.4) - Last Edited 22 September 2023
HSV - Last Edited 15 November 2023

And more...

ENDYOURENITE (talk | contribs) 16:39, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

@ENDYOURENITE Good question, I should have addressed that in OP. I was thinking it could be worthy of the template if it's been 2+ months since it was last functional (in the case of site features, like Front Page Curator) and, in the case of features that never got past the announcement stage but also aren't outright confirmed to be dead, 2+ years (like the ScratchBit.)

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 16:56, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

@Minikiwigeek2 Ah okay, 2 years then.

ENDYOURENITE (talk | contribs) 17:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘@ENDYOURENITE I'm not sure you quite got the purpose of the template. It's not for articles that haven't been edited recently, it's for features that the Scratch Team hasn't recently developed. For example, the Scratch Bit article would get the template, because the Scratch Team hasn't given any updates on it since they announced making it.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 18:32, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I see someone moved this template into mainspace due to a few weeks of no discussion and no formal objections. Unless someone's got something important to say, I'm marking this as resolved.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 16:08, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Minikiwigeek2 I think in general, if there's a good amount of good editors tracking the "Recent Changes" tab, yet there is no opposition on a discussion, it's safe to mark something as having "community consensus". A lot of people have expressed how they don't post something if they don't have anything to add to a conversation, and it makes a suggestion much less likely to be forgotten forever.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:41, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

Edit: made a typo fix

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:43, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Gdxfor Ah, okay, thanks for letting me know! I've never done one of these template suggestions before so I wasn't really sure how everything worked.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 23:05, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I'm getting lots of 508 errors

Resolved ^{(since 22:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC))}

I put it under Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Logging server faults, but this needs to be fixed.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 15:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@Ideapad-320 I am also getting unstyled, ugly-looking versions of pages. I am going to ask @Jvvg if he can somewhat help, because the server seems to be a potato.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER He stated here that he's working on a fix and that he is aware of the issue.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 18:55, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

I have put a patch on the immediate problem and also done a bit of optimizations that will hopefully reduce the frequency and severity of this sort of thing in the future. I make no guarantees it won't happen again (unfortunately it probably will), but hopefully not as often at least.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:46, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion for "Technical Reasons" template

Resolved ^{(since 16:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC))}

I suggest implementing a "technical reasons" template; it would look like this:

User:Gdxfor/Technical Reasons

This would prevent Scratchers that try to type the name of an article that is actually under a different name (due to technical restrictions) from getting confused. I've definitely gotten confused from this before, so it would be very helpful. This template also clearly has use cases, as it would be used as the mirror of an {{Incorrect Title}} template.

I copied Wikipedia's version of the tempate, and has the same three parameters. What does everyone else think?
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 20:48, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

@Gdxfor I notice in the article you link, there is already a note about why it is titled this way on the top of the page. I'm quite new here, so can you explain why a template would be preferred over this current method?

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 00:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@ThisIsTemp1 This template wouldn't go on the Costume Number (block) article. If you try looking up "Costume # (block)" in the search bar, instead of going to Costume # (block), you'll instead up at the Costume article. Same thing with "Item # of () in ()"; if you type that in the search bar, you'll be sent to the Item article isntead. This is pretty confusing if you're not aware of how WikiMedia works, and there's absolutely no notice about it on either the Costume or the Item article. This template would go on those pages, and would help any confused Scratchers find the correct article more easily.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 00:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

@GdxforI understand now, thanks. I will say that

I agree. It would clear up confusion. The notice about where to go to find the block isn't enough because it doesn't say why this happens and how to avoid it in the future.

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 00:37, 28 January 2025 (UTC)

After a few weeks of no discussion, I'm going to go ahead and put the template into mainspace. There doesn't seem to be any opposition against the template, and some article sort of have this with the {{about}} template, and I'd like for a proper template to be used instead of it.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 16:25, 6 February 2025 (UTC)

Home Page Redesign

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

I have made a redesign of the homepage to fit closely with Scratch 3.0's design style and make it more informative.

The banner has been updated to display the number of editors.
The banner is also closer to the Scratch 3.0 front page banner that appears when logged out.
"The Scratch Language" and "Become a Contributor" sections have been added.

What does everyone think? Especially @jvvg, because he is a bureaucrat and can edit the wiki home page.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 20:03, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

Support changing the banner,

No support adding the other boxes. I like the look of the new banner, but I question how useful these changes would be for regular visitors, or users who already have accounts. Particularly, the new banner takes up quite a bit of screen real estate, forcing the user to scroll down in order to see the featured article (which isn't a huge deal, but it's a little inconvenient when the featured article could just be one of the first things on the screen like it currently is). Additionally, if you're already a contributor, you don't really need to see the "Become a Contributor" section every time you visit the page. I do think your banner concept looks very cool, but I think it could potentially be modified in a way that doesn't take up so much screen space.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 22:17, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

I have brought this to the attention of the other admins. As for my personal opinion I think the header is an improvement over what we have now and more in keeping with Scratch 3.0. I think that the two infoboxes you added at the bottom (become a contributor and the Scratch language) make the page a bit too big and intimidating though, so my personal opinion is we should use your new header but not add those boxes.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 22:21, 29 January 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER I personally don't like how the banner looks different from the rest of the page; it's a colored rectangle compared to the rest of the black-and-white boxes below. I think I would much prefer the look of the banner if it stretched more to the left and right and covered the entire page (except for the sidebar on the left). As for the two boxes at the bottom, I don't care much.

As for some UX stuff:

On mobile, the image covers the text on the banner
The image goes past the right edge of the banned slightly on the Vector Legacy skin
The bottom two boxes are arranged really weirdly with the Vector Legacy skin on

I'm not sure how fixable some of the issues I described are, nor if they're a good idea, but those are my thoughts on the homepage redesign.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:15, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

@gdxfor A lot of these would only be fixable if jvvg added classes to MediaWiki:Common.css for them. We would need stuff we cannot do with what MediaWiki allows. If templatestyles was enabled that would work out much better as we wouldn't need an admin to add CSS to every page.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:45, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Btw, I've fixed a typo on my previous message beceause it made it harder to read.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 21:48, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┘ @A-MARIO-PLAYER For the most part, I like what you've done. However I think you should add border-radius: 10px; to the style for the banner div. I do really like this banner - however I do think that you need to restyle some of the other boxes to fit this greener theme.
han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:24, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

About monthly Thankful Thursdays

Hello fellow Scratchers,

In 2023 I revived Thankful Thursday after a nearly year-long hiatus. I posted it for every month in 2024 except for one month where someone else beat me to doing so. I mainly did this because I felt it was my obligation to be more positive. It definitely seems to have worked; people love it. However, committing myself to doing something on a specific date has not only had a diminishing impact on the value of thanking someone, but also on me in real life.

For many years I struggled with an addiction to social media. Since I stopped checking it I have been a lot happier. I don't feel the need to play with a vibrating pocket device all the time anymore. But it was a bad idea of mine to commit to posting something on the Scratch Wiki on the same day every month. Not because I 'don't have time' to, but more so because that's harmful. It doesn't make me feel good and when walking around in real life I have a lingering sense of "missing" an obligation if I have not posted it yet; constantly reminding myself to do so as if something bad will happen. Real life should, and does, come first, and neither I (nor anyone else) should let themself get back into those bad ways of living. Not just because people shouldn't think of Scratch as an obligation but also it has lowered the quality of Thankful Thursday for everyone else participating.

So in 2025 I am no longer going to promise to post it every month. I will post them if and when I have cool things to share. And of course, I was never the only one able to post them anyway; I'm just a normal Scratcher and any other Scratcher may also do so. I would encourage everyone to not think about specific times of the month and post a bunch of thanks right near the end just for posting them, but instead just write them down if and when you think of them, and post the list that Thursday; no need to wait until the end of the month. I think this will both make it easier and more healthful, but also make the thanks more natural; not forcing them, but writing them and not waiting too long to see them. Let me know if you have had similar experiences or thoughts/objections.

Scratch on!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 18:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

No problem. This is such an awesome project and I'm glad to be a part of it!

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 19:01, 30 January 2025 (UTC)

Rickroll Agency Typeform?

Resolved ^{(since 01:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC))}

I made a typeform for my shop called the Rickroll Agency. I swear I didn’t enter my real name when I signed up. Can I make a link to the typeform?
PLEASE DO NOT BAN ME FROM THE WIKI

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 02:12, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Having done a Google search, I assume you're referring to the website Typeform? If I recall correctly, links to Google Forms are disallowed on the main Scratch site — I don't see why links to Typeform would be allowed on the wiki either, for similar reasons of protecting personal information. Also, you're not going to be banned from the wiki just because you asked a question. :)

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 15:43, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial: Linking to external form sites is not allowed per the Community Guidelines, so no you cannot link to it on the Wiki.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:39, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

User:8to16 redirect

Resolved ^{(since 15:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC))}

It redirects to A-MARIO-PLAYER’s user page. It will not be frowned upon, since A-MARIO-PLAYER owns the 8to16 account. Here is a situation to show why I should do this:

A new wikian wants to go to A-MARIO-PLAYER’s account. They use User:8to16, but it doesn’t work. They thought 8to16 was his username, but it wasn’t!

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 02:22, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

Redirects from one main userspace page to another (e.g. User:A to User:B) are typically not created, even if someone has multiple accounts.

4096bits (talk | contribs) 03:55, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

The page User:8to16 has been deleted in the past, as redirects from later usernames are not allowed.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

15:29, 31 January 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial Two things -

First, please minisig your signature so the code isn't put on every page.

Second of all, this will not happen because ***userpages can never be created for a user that doesn't exist***. Functionally, 8to16 doesn't have a Scratch Wiki account, so this cannot happen.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:18, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 8to16 does have a wiki account

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 03:46, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial No. A-MARIO-PLAYER has a wiki account - there is a difference, even if they are alts of each other.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 04:08, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

March Featured Images

Resolved ^{(since 06:24, 1 March 2025 (UTC))}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for March. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 06:35, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

File:ScratchR Logo.png, because I don't think many people are aware of what ScratchR was, let alone that it even had a logo, and I think it'd be neat to include it for historical interest.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 15:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Updated

bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 06:24, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Disclaimer not in English (aaaaaaaaaa)

Please put the disclaimer in English
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 23:11, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

German servers, not possible AFAIK

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 01:14, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@Co0lcr34t10ns I think it's possible, but will not happen - the servers are hosted in Germany, the person who wrote the Privacy Policy is German, IIRC.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 04:47, 7 February 2025 (UTC)

One wiki request, ALL WIKIS!

Resolved ^{(since 20:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC))}

I think it will be fair if Wiki accounts apply to other Wikis. Imagine a user who learned a new language from duolingo join the English scratch wiki, but now they will have to send a request for the other language wiki! That would be unfair. So I think Wiki accounts should apply to other wikis.

Something to consider about this suggestion is that this wiki is created with MediaWiki, so this suggestion might not be possible to implement. :O

The following chart shows below what wiki accounts would transfer to if they originated from the English Wiki.

Wikis that English accounts translate to
Language	Transfers
German (Deutsch)	Yeah!
Pусский	Nope
Nederlands	Yeah!
Bahasa Indonesia	Nope
日本語 (Japanese)	Yeah!
Magyar	Nope
Français	Nope
Test	Yeah!

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 23:52, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial

I have a good belief this is not going to be implemented because there's a reason why wiki accounts don't apply across wikis: the Scratch-Wiki wants to ensure you're familiar with the language(s) you're editing. Having a wiki account is a special privilege, and it's a bad idea to allow someone unnecessary access to the ability to edit every single wiki when most wikians typically only edit one or perhaps two wikis that are in languages they speak. If, say, a wikian speaks Japanese but nothing else, why would they ever want or need to access, let alone edit the German wiki? Typically they wouldn't, so there's no reason for the German Scratch Wiki to give that person edit access. If, hypothetically, that person did eventually learn German, and they were confident in their ability to write in German, then it's certainly fine for them to apply for a German Scratch Wiki account - but it's also best for them to have to undergo the application process again so that the German Scratch Wiki knows they're giving edit access to someone who actually knows how to write in German and isn't planning on abusing their powers. If both of these conditions are not met, they likely should not have a German Scratch Wiki account.
Also, why would only certain accounts get transferred? Why would the English account translate to the German account, but not the French account?

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 02:57, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial This is virtually auto rejected - you must be fluent in a language to use said wiki, and the application process functions as vetting for that.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 04:52, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 Sorry for my yapfest, I think you said it best ;)

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 05:59, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

As one of the people who handles account requests, I can safely say this isn't going to happen. If you learn another language, you are welcome to submit a request to join the Wiki for that language. If you speak a language well enough to write a high quality Wiki article in it, it shouldn't be at all difficult to read and follow the instructions to submit an account request.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:09, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Rocket Trend

Can I keep the PFP or should I change it? The pfp was from a trend.
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 02:57, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial

Of course - pictures are welcome according to the Scratch Wiki signature guidelines, although, as required by the guidelines, please resize the image to 18px.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 03:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

How do I create essays?

I've seen lots of users with essays on lots of different topics, and I've wanted to do that too, but I don't know how. Can someone tell me how to?
LionCoder10 (talk | contribs) 19:12, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

@LionCoder10: You just create the essay as a subpage of your userpage.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:07, 5 February 2025 (UTC)

Why SUBST:?

When you put a template as your signature in Preferences, SUBST: cones before the name, for example, {{SUBST::stub}}. Why does the Wiki do this?
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 02:40, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial That's just how mediawiki works.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

11:42, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER Not exactly - there is an exact purpose for this. @MillionOfficial — this exists, so that instead of directly transcluding your minisig onto the page, it **subst**itutes the wikitext from that page onto for your signature - this forces the page to show up as your signature and not just minisig which would create a transclusion double redirect.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 01:00, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Why no TurboWarp page on the English Wiki?

I saw on the Russian Wiki that there IS a page about TurboWarp. And the rules of the wiki is no pages about mods if they have a documentation page about themselfs. Why?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 18:51, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 We do not allow pages about Scratch modifications. If you have a Russian Wiki account, you can request the page there to be deleted.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

20:44, 8 February 2025 (UTC)

I don't understand Russian, sadly, but I can read Russian.
-unsigned comment by Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) at 09:13, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER: Every language has its own guidelines, so it's possible that the Russian Wiki does allow articles on modifications (I really don't know; I don't speak Russian). English is generally the most strict with its guidelines on what pages are allowed.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:57, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Why not hire more admins to make the work faster?

It's a smarter way to do instead of waiting forever for something like account requests and other.
-unsigned comment by Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) at 20:02, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 Firstly, welcome to the Scratch Wiki! Please be sure to sign your messages on talk pages by placing four tilde symbols at the end of your message.

Secondly, the Scratch Wiki does not have the resources or budget to "hire" admins — like most wikis, admins are willing volunteers that don't get paid. When deemed necessary, elections are held for new Experienced Wikians and/or Administrators.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 22:00, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

How can I get elected?

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 05:38, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

According to the requirements from the last election, you must be a Wikian, have 50 mainspace edits before an election starts, have an account created before December 4, 2021, and have a good track record (including never being blocked, never vandalizing, etc.) to nominate yourself for an Experienced Wikian election. Nominating yourself does not actually guarantee you will be able to run in the election.

However, an election has not taken place since January 2022, so the current group of administrators probably don't believe holding an election is necessary right now. As for Administrators, they are appointed when deemed necessary, but those happen even less frequently (the last one was in August 2020), likely for the same reason.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 17:24, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Even if we do add more admins in the future, we will still need to maintain the account request system. If we got rid of it and allowed any Scratcher to join, we would face a much, much larger volume of edits that don't meet Wiki guidelines and bad behavior. Also, as others have indicated, we can't afford to hire paid admins, so we can only get volunteers, and volunteers are inherently limited in their level of availability and commitment. All of our admins are either students or have other jobs, and it's very likely any additional volunteer admins we could get would be in the same boat.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:56, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Guys I know that you guys can't afford paid admins, I just call it like that.

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:47, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 Still, all the other points stand. Plus, there (unforunately) isn't a lot of editing activites in general, and having more admins doesn't help that. PS: Welcome! I fixed your formatting - please add "indents" before your messages (one more colon than the previous one)

Purin2022 | 💬Talk | 📝Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:11, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Can't play most videos on April Folls Gobo page and can't acses Wayback Machine.

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

So I was using the Wiki when I saw that video was unavaible on Gobo's April Fools music albums. Another issue is that I can no longer acsees the Waynack Machine as of January this year (It's blocked due to parental control, Google thinks there is v****** there while there is nothing in Scratch archives. How can I fix it?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:08, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

All of the songs in that section seem to go to functioning YouTube videos or wiki articles. The only links that don't go anywhere are "I Like Redlinks" by "Lil Redlink", which are intentionally meant to not go anywhere because nonexistent links are colored red. As for your issues with the Wayback Machine, assuming it's an issue with your parental controls, I'm afraid we likely wouldn't be able to help much. (someone else please feel free to correct me if i'm wrong)

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 21:35, 10 February 2025 (UTC)

Saldy, I may never have acsees to the Wayback Macgine (Kind of useles website?) The Gibo aprill Fools links that just gives me an "Video Unavaible" thing is basically the *I'm Broke" and "Tak Taka" ate that. If there are people whith Wayback Machine blocked, will it be fixed (I mean to pu links that everyone can access)?

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 05:46, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 Um... those link to Scratch's video embeder, not the Wayback Machine. I'm assuming that the videos are just restricted for your YouTube account or something.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 07:14, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Can someone explain what is there in the songs that gives me errors?

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 12:33, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Oh wait due to violence and innapropriate stuff. I realized.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 09:46, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

Can I add this to April Fools Gobo's page?

I want to add something in their "family". It will be like Biobo, where he is the most unknown member of the family (or maybe his lost brother.)
-unsigned comment by Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs)

As long as your contributions are in compliance with the April Fools article rules,

Yes.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 17:16, 11 February 2025 (UTC)

Did they wiped from existence all scratch mods pages?

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

I am sad. I remember when they have all pages but now, BYOB is the only survivor. Maybe due to the mods rule?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:04, 12 February 2025 (UTC) Oh wait due to having Introduction thingies.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 09:53, 23 February 2025 (UTC)

How do I create an essay?

I want to learn how to write an essay in my userspace. Do I have to pass any requirements to do so?
ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 23:50, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

I think there are no requirements. I suggest you go to the Essay Maker so that you can easily create essays.

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 23:56, 12 February 2025 (UTC)

Why are links blue

Scratch links are purple now.
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 00:17, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial The Scratch Wiki runs MediaWiki, Scratch itself does not. Typically, unclicked MediaWiki links are colored blue, clicked links are purple, and nonexistent links are red. I'm sure the skins could be modified by someone with enough technical knowhow, but that's quite a bit of work to mess with what is basically a universal standard for wikis.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 15:31, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Template for topics about dead trends?

is there any template for a content disclaimer infobox that indicates that there are some topics or the article talks about something like a trend that has been dying off? if so, which template would be best for it? if no one can think of something good, i suggest that there should be a template for these kinds of articles.
VUIE68 (talk | contribs) 20:15, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

@VUIE68 As far as I'm aware, there's no template that describes exactly what you want, with the closest thing being the newly-added {{Paused feature}} template. However, I'm hesitant to make your template idea into a real template, simply because I don't think there are enough spots on the Wiki to warrant such a template. Could you provide a list of places where you think this would be appropriate?

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 20:22, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

@VUIE68: If you're talking about Scratch Trends then there isn't any template to indicate the status of a trend. The problem is that defining when a trend (or anything really) is losing popularity is highly subjective, so using such a template would be quite difficult. If you're talking about articles in general then we do have the {{obsolete}} template for completely dead ones. (PS: I had an Edit Conflict and I haven't read Gdxfor's post yet)

Purin2022 | 💬Talk | 📝Contribs | 🐱Scratch 20:23, 13 February 2025 (UTC)

Corresponding theme for a Griffpatch game's scratchiversary

We all know that Griffpatch is the most followed Scratcher. So why not change the Wiki to change the Wiki theme based on a Griffpatch game.

Don't do for: Laser Tag, Minecraft-ish MMO, Geometry Dash, Untitled-1, Generic Red
Do for: Appel, Scratchnapped, Level Eaten, Bubble Scratch, Massive Multiplayer Platformer, Zombie Cube Escape

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 00:13, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial This is virtually auto-rejected because:

The Scratch Wiki is not an advertisement for other Scratchers. Changing the entire wiki's skin to promote a specific Scratcher is an advertisement and is against the mission of this wiki.
Being the most followed Scratcher doesn't mean an ad-free encyclopedia has to rebrand its entire skin around that person or their projects.
A few years ago, the Scratch Wiki held a discussion in the Community Portal and determined that an article about griffpatch should not be created. One of the many reasons why was because the entire article would be nothing but an advertisement with no sense of neutrality. The same issues would arise if a griffpatch skin were to be created.
- Adding on to this, redesigning the Wiki's skin to advertise a subject the Scratch Wiki has rejected as an article would be hypocritical on the wiki's part.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 03:53, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Sorry, but griffpatch's projects will never be added, as @MillionOfficial and @Minikiwigeek2 said, it counts as an advertisement, which is NOT allowed in Scratch Wiki, also it doesn't give information about Scratch. It MUST BE REJECTED FOREVER!!!

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:15, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 When did I say it counts as an ad? Only minikiwigeek said it. Also, please follow digital ettiquete and only use all caps when you are excited or suprised, for example: "WOW! I did not know that!" "THIS IS SO AWESOME!"

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 05:27, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial You don't have to say it counts as an ad for it to be one. If I spam links to my projects all over Scratch, but I say it's not an ad, it's still an ad. This just shows blatant favoritism toward griffpatch. Why don't we do this for every project? We can't just endlessly add things specialized towards certain users, especially when **an article on griffpatch hasn't even been approved**.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:54, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

New SDS, do this if you are an admin or an experienced wikian.

Resolved ^{(since an unknown date)}

There is a new SDS released on 12th February. If you are an admin or an experiensed wikian, please add it!
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:05, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

I updated the news.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:52, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Ok, thanks, now it's solved!
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 18:35, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

A bit of a rant about the 508 situation

Hi everyone,

As many of you are aware, we've been dealing with server issues, and there was a big flare-up last night. I'm not going to get into the technical side of it (for reasons I will explain further down here), but want to give my side of the story here.

The most recent round seems to have started while I, and about a third of the planet, was asleep. I woke up to find our forum topic, my profile, and a few private communication services full of messages telling me the server was down. Once I was awake, I was able to resolve the issue in under 15 minutes. However, being bombarded with messages complaining about it doesn't exactly motivate me to fix it, and it really has the opposite effect.

There are a number of different factors playing into these issues that all come together. There is only so much I can do with our current setup to deal with them. If I had full freedom to set up my own stack for this, I could easily avoid a lot of the problems we have. Unfortunately, I don't. For a bunch of reasons, many of them not even technical (more legal/administrative), we're stuck with this. This extends to the idea of trying to set up a fork of the Wiki - by doing so, you are taking on a whole bunch of legal responsibility that you probably don't realize and I really doubt you want to handle. Thanks to this same legal responsibility, we're stuck with what we have.

I also get a lot of comments with people offering to help. I appreciate the sentiment, but unfortunately it's not that simple. I have been working as a web developer for five years now, plus a four year university degree before that, and about six years of amateur experience in middle and high school. In other words, I have been doing web development in some capacity for fifteen years, which is longer than a lot of you reading this message have been alive. This is a lot harder and more complex than most of you seem to think it is, and the suggestions I'm getting really aren't helping. If you were to manage a website with the complexity and level of traffic we get, you will probably find that you'll be dealing with all sorts of headaches that you don't expect. Your Wiki that has a few hundred pages and gets a few thousand pageviews per day with only off-the-shelf extensions is not comparable to this Wiki (or really, this collection of about ten Wikis) that gets very large amounts of traffic and has a lot of custom logic. To put it bluntly, a lot of the suggestions and offers to help that I receive are not very helpful.

Finally, I would like to remind everyone that I am not paid to do any of this. I have a full time job, volunteer as a train operator at a railroad museum, am involved with a few different community organizations, and have to deal with everything my personal life (did you know that cooking, cleaning, shopping, etc. take a lot of time?) I started as an EW when I was in high school and got involved with server administration and technical work after the server transfer when I was in college. Now I'm an independent adult with all the obligations that come with that. As painful as this may be to hear, real life takes priority. We can only do so much with an all-volunteer force, and even if we are able to add more people, everyone else is in the same boat.

If you are intending to respond to this offering to help with server maintenance, I appreciate the offer, but unfortunately we can't take on anyone else at the moment for a bunch of reasons. Those reasons include, but are not limited to: 1. This is a lot harder than a lot of you think and most of you don't have the necessary experience, 2. There is a legal responsibility associated with having access to all the data that we cannot take lightly, 3. All of you also are people with real lives, and we have no guarantee you'll actually stick around, and 4. We need an extremely high level of trust to give you server access to make sure that you not only don't do anything malicious, but also work with an extreme amount of caution to avoid accidentally catastrophically breaking anything.

Unfortunately, I cannot and will not answer questions people have related to the technical and legal/administrative aspects here. A lot of it is more complicated than most of you are able to understand, and experience has shown if I do provide more details I'm just going to be stuck answering a lot of questions about the parts that people understand but aren't actually important. You're just going to have to take my word for it.

Thanks for reading, and hopefully this at least gives a little insight into my side of the story.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:21, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Get well soon, hopefully...
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 18:39, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Help me!

Resolved ^{(since 23:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC))}

On the edit forum image, I forgot to see the image history, now it's ruined, can someone delete the file and delete it from the history, or it's just me. Also I realized after I uploaded the file I added "Made my own screenshot", how can I delete it?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:32, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1: You can revert a change to an image by clicking "revert" on the previous revision. I have done this for you.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

23:12, 14 February 2025 (UTC)

Articles on griffpatch and Turbwarp

I do understand that we are a Scratch Wiki and we don't do user generated content. HOWEVER:

griffpatch and Turbowarp are incredibly notable
They are commonly asked about on the forums.

Yes, they break the rules. But exceptions have been made and I'm not seeing how kaj is more notable than griffpatch. And I don't think this sets a precedent.
han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:35, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 I see your point about notability; both have changed the Scratch community in big ways. However, I'm a little hesitant to agree, especially on making an article about a single individual. I'll wait for others to respond and see what they think.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 04:29, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

We had a discussion about making a griffpatch article in the past where we decided that it was in the best interest of the Wiki not to make one. I would encourage you to read over that discussion. We allowed pages for mods in the past, but my understanding is that other than a few notable examples that were allowed to remain after the decision, mods aren't related enough to Scratch to belong on the Wiki and the ones allowed to remain were grandfathered in. In a somewhat similar vein, I think if a Kaj situation were to come up today, it probably wouldn't be given an article, but the existing one was grandfathered in.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 04:32, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

@jvvg I have read over those points many times. However, that all took place 8 years ago and I believe it's time to reconsider. Griffpatch now has over 500k followers, and is likely to hit a million. Saying that he is unlikely to impact Scratch history is unlikely. As I said, I think it's time to have a new conversation regarding this. We have recently deleted many Mod articles - but I also think that Turbowarp has had a big enough impact on Scratch to allow for an article.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:33, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 There's no denying TurboWarp and griffpatch have substantially impacted Scratch history, so I suppose exceptions for them could be fine, but only if they could be written in such a way that they remain neutral and don't sound like a biased advertisement that exists solely to praise the person/thing. Doing that for TurboWarp seems relatively easy enough, but as for griffpatch, I don't really know how an article on him could be written, to be honest.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 14:31, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

For griffpatch, the rationale still seems to just be "they have a lot of followers", which is a pretty weak justification to create an article in my mind. I really don't see a whole lot of potential for useful content in the article that wouldn't just be an advertisement. For TurboWarp I think there is more potential for a useful article there, and now that you bring that up I think it may be worth reconsidering our policy around mods. Our policy is also to some extent an artifact of the 2.0 days when modding Scratch was a lot harder than it is now, so there were a lot fewer mods and most of the existing ones were from 1.4 and consequently fairly outdated. Now that Scratch 3.0 is written in JS, it's a lot easier to make modifications, and TurboWarp probably has had more of an impact on the Scratch community than any other mod except possibly Snap!, which already has an article due to being grandfathered in.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:23, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

@jvvg I do completely agree with you about Turbowarp, though I'm not so sure about opening it up to all Scratch Mods again - Turbowarp is undeniably the most notable *recent* mod so I don't see a reason why not to add it, similar in format to previous mod articles.

On the topic of griffpatch, I see both your and @minikiwigeek2's points about how it would just be an advertisement. Although it may be formed that way, I believe that he is an important enough aspect of Scratch culture that a small advertisement would be okay, especially since it would be nice to have a credible source of information to refer new users to upon their arrival to Scratch. I think the Turbowarp article has more important, however.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:49, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Discussion on Thecoolmantv2

Resolved ^{(since 08:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC))}

@Thecoolmantv2 yourself, you are invited to this discussion.

Thecoolmantv2 has been making a very, very large amount of userspace edits that clutter recent changes, without any edits outside of there (except for files used in their userspace).

Essentially, they have been doing nothing but cluttering Recent Changes. First of all, they made a pseudo-wiki inside their userspace, but they are not editing the real wiki at all, only their userspace. They said they have "stopped", but they are still continuing to clutter the recent changes.

Thecooltvman2, for your personal wiki, please use a dedicated wiki hosting service, such as Miraheze. (If you decide to go this route, however, please don't use fandom, it's an eyesore cluttered with ads.) If you wish to continue editing on the wiki, I suggest you start editing the mainspace of the Scratch Wiki. Some articles you can expand can be found here.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 12:39, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER First of all, I don't think you're at liberty to create a discussion thread "for" a user. If you believe someone is spamming, contact an admin on their talk page or report edits.

On the topic of this, I don't believe they've done anything wrong? Where do you see a rule that says you can't make userpages at your liberty?

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:36, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Closed.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

08:38, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

A "logging server faults" topic on the forums

I have saw multiple people comment about Wiki server faults on an admin's profile (often jvvg) or on the forum portal (which is often cluttered with spam posts). To keep things organised, I think there should be a forum topic for logging server faults.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 23:03, 15 February 2025 (UTC)

If you mean in the Scratch forums, saldy, this won't be added anytime soon, even never, because:

-Firstly, new users may find it confusing, they may not know what is Scratch Wiki, so a few people know that Scratch Wiki exists,

-Secondly the forums is Scratch only (Means that ScratchJr and Wiki and other stuff don't go there, things I am making and creating and reading and playing are off topic, but diffrent, I don't know how to explain what is posted there).

-Thirdly, it's off-topic.

If you mean something else, tell me.

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:27, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Actually, the forums are used for the Scratch Wiki, as they have two topics related to the scratch wiki (Scratch Wiki Community Portal, and Wiki Wensday Suggestions). Anyway, I

Support this, actually, as not all scratch users who use the scratch wiki are editors, and can report server faults on the wiki. Could be useful. Although, it could be subject to constant spam about the same issue...

GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 16:01, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

Help me (again)!

Resolved ^{(since 19:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC))}

So I decided to compress the Help (1.4) file of move () steps thing., but it displayed an error with a small gray and green thing on the top left corner, but when you click the image it shows it, what did I did, I double checked. Edit: I also used Shift+F5 and it didn't work.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 19:04, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Oh wait it's fixed

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 19:46, 17 February 2025 (UTC)

Usefulness of the Physics Tutorials Category

I am doubting the usefulness of any of the pages in the Physics Tutorials category. Does anyone else agree with me?
Aespibr (talk | contribs) 20:07, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

These could all be done within Scratch, and are common projects made within Scratch. I don't think we should remove them. Why do you think they should be removed?

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 20:18, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

How can I archive my talk page?

I want to do it.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:10, 18 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 You can create a subpage at User talk:Scratchtheguy1/Archive 1 and copy-paste old topics there, but you only have 2 topics on your talk page as of writing so making an archive is a bit pointless.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

19:01, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

How can I create a subpage?

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 19:36, 19 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 You can just type the desired page name into the search bar and then hit the redlink near the "Create this page" text.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:44, 20 February 2025 (UTC)

Policy for Unretrievable Citations

Hi, so I’ve been working on Youth Advisory board page ideas and I have a question about our policy:

What do we do if something can be confirmed but a public citation doesn’t exist?
- I am in YAB, and there are a couple things on the page currently marked as citation needed.
- I can for certainly say that these things are true, but I can’t/not allowed to link to my source.
- This doesn’t only happen on this page. It would still be in relation to YAB, but there are a number of things we’re authorized to talk about but can’t give sources on.

Example:
- YAB has been extended nothing 6 months, and as original YAB members, we are allowed to stay.
  - I can’t link to my source there to write about it, but it’s true.
- 50 members were invited into YAB, and 44 members accepted said invite.
  - This is currently in the article as ^{[citation needed]}. It is true, and verifiably true by any YAB member.

I will ping an active admin who has been around for a while as they may have dealt with this before.@jvvg
han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 20:08, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

We do have some precedent for this, where Scratch Team member statements are usable as sources. Since you're a Youth Advisory Board member, in my opinion your statements would be acceptable as sources for things about the Youth Advisory Board. Just a caveat though, you have indicated for some things you can't link the source, please don't share any information you aren't allowed to share publicly.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:01, 21 February 2025 (UTC)

@jvvg When writing an article, how should this go in as a source? There are some simple things - such as "44 members accepted" which are in as a citation needed. It feels wrong to replace a ^{[citation needed]} not with a citation, if you know what I mean.

Just a little addition in reply to your last post: The website that we use communications is it's own website that we have been specifically told not to share the name of nor link to. All of my info comes from ST members on there. So, I can't link directly to the ST source, but I can still share the info. So, I can share the info but I can't share where I got the info, if that makes sense.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 03:48, 22 February 2025 (UTC)

Twi is deleted.

Resolved ^{(since 19:49, 24 February 2025 (UTC))}

Twi language Wiki is gone.

When I am at the homepage, click "Twi" (Twi is a langauge in Ghana, Africa maybe), it redirects to the test Wiki homepage. What happened and if unrestorable, why not delete it?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 14:31, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 I assume Twi is supposed to be a link to the Test Wiki, and not an actual Twi wiki. I certainly believe that should be clarified though.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

19:14, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

Yes, I can confirm this is intentional. We had to kinda hack it in, since of course "Test Wiki" isn't a real language.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:49, 24 February 2025 (UTC)

It ilitery became a shortcut to test wiki, since you (kind of hack it in:). Also I'm waiting this to become resolved.

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 16:29, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

I marked it as resolved for you. In the future, you can mark a conversation as resolved by replacing the "unresovled" template with the "resolved" template, then adding the timestamp for the message that resolved your question/problem, e.g. resolved|19:49, 24 February 2025 (UTC).

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 19:46, 28 February 2025 (UTC)

Where is the undo button

Resolved ^{(since 05:02, 25 February 2025 (UTC))}

I want to undo revision 349570, but the undo button "ran away"! Where is it?
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 04:26, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Revision 349570 is a deleted (or hidden) revision. You cannot revert back to it in using any means, which is way the undo button isn't there. Also, why would you be trying to undo that in the first place? It's clearly marked as "deleted" with a clear reason on the revision history. Please don't try to re-add removed content that breaks the wiki guidelines, man.

GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 05:02, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

Suggestion: Add an editnotice to tell you to sign your talk page messages

Throughout my over half a year on the Wiki, I have saw many unsigned comments from new Wikians, which makes it harder for me to tell who said what. This could be fixed using an editnotice. MediaWiki implements a feature like this by adding text to MediaWiki:Talkpagetext. Here is an example of what this could say:

You are editing a talk page. Don't forget to sign your post with ~~~~ or by clicking the button.

This should hopefully cut down on the number of unsigned posts, and teach new Wikians how to sign their post.
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 08:44, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER To my knowledge, we already have something like this. Often times if I am editing a talk page but not leaving a message, I will get an alert “You have not signed this post with ~~~~. Please type CONFIRM in all caps to proceed without one.”

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 12:27, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 I thought we had that too, but I just tested it, and it doesn't seem like such a system exists. Or at least works currently... Not 100% sure though.

GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 14:06, 25 February 2025 (UTC)

@GAMS2 It definitely does exist, but I don’t think it triggers every time.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 20:09, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 Yeah, thats what I was thinking as well. It occured to me as I was writing this, that it might only apply to New Wikians. But thats just speculation.

GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 20:13, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

As a New Wikian who has forgotten to sign their talk message once, I can confirm that such a system does not already exist.
-unsigned comment by Abdavark (talk | contribs)

And there's proof of it.

Abdavark (talk | contribs) 00:13, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

Template for Incorrect Information?

This article or section contains false info. The user who added this template does not know the true info. Please remove this template after you have replaced the incorrect info with the correct info.

Feel free to improve this template prototype if you'd like. I'd love to see your awesome creations!
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 04:36, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial - The wiki isn't the place for false information... If you don't know, don't post it.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 04:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

@han614698 I am asking if I can create a template for it.

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 05:05, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial As stated by han614698, the wiki is not a place to host false info. If you know something is false, you shouldn't need to use a template, you should replace the information. And if you don't know for sure, at the very least, bring the problem up on the article's talk page.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 14:47, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

This is what {{inaccurate}} is for. If something specific is innacurate, you should probably use {{citation needed}}.

GAMS2 (talk | contribs) 14:54, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

this might be a banger april fools template tho, may i take this idea.

but definitely not mainspace. we have inaccurate as stated above. agreed.

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 16:26, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

This won't be added, because there is a talk page, Scartch Wiki isn't for false information.

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 21:01, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

SUGGESTION: Add an Article Wizard

I have saw many rule-violating pages created, and an article wizard might be able to help with that. You can see an article wizard simulator here, which should give you a taste of what the article wizard will be like.

Any suggestions or thoughts?
A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs | 18:43, 26 February 2025 (UTC)

This doesn't do much other than tell you the rules. It should actually help with making a good page.

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 19:05, 27 February 2025 (UTC)

April Featured Images

Unresolved ^{(see all...)}

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for April. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many...
bigpuppy talk ▪︎ contribs 06:25, 1 March 2025 (UTC)

Permission for editing Scratch Wiki Homepage

Hi! I just want to ask that is it allowed to change the Scratch Wiki Homepage for every Wiki Wednesday?
-StayBoy- (talk | contribs) 07:31, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@-StayBoy- This is a task performed by EWs and administrators only. The Featured Article page is protected for that raeson.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:18, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Can I move User:MillionOfficial/Banned Template to mainspace?

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 19:25, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial No. In fact, I will remove that template from any userpages which use it, as you are not allowed to say you’re banned on the wiki.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 19:50, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

I would also like to suggest that we remove this page from the wiki - you aren’t allowed to say if you’re banned, and having a template just encourages it.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 19:54, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

OK, but I think you're allowed to say someone got banned ON the wiki.

M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 20:09, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial That is false - you may not discuss bans on the wiki, period. It’s arguably even worse to talk about someone’s wiki ban on the wiki as that is strictly gossip.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 20:12, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial As the others have said, this would not allowed. We actually had a template similar to this in the past, but it was removed in keeping with Scratch policy of not publicizing bans.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:14, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

Here is the discussion regarding deleting that template.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:15, 3 March 2025 (UTC)

That previous template was used to be added to *other* people's userpages, not their own (it once got added to my userpage and I was so embarrassed I asked for the page to be deleted entirely so it would be gone from the history).

Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 20:04, 4 March 2025 (UTC)

Permission for making a welcoming template

Hello! Can I create a welcoming template on Scratch Wiki to welcome new wikians? I have already created. Please don't delete it. I request you. I have worked hard for it.
-StayBoy- (talk | contribs) 06:17, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

@-StayBoy- If you are talking about User:-StayBoy-/Welcome, you don't need permission to create a template when it is in your own userspace (User:-StayBoy-/). You only need permission to create a template when it is in the Template namespace (Template:).

Mrcomputer1 (talk | contribs) 12:16, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

"AFD Template" Template Allowed?

It would make it easier to use a template from AFD, and take up less storage space:

{{Scratch Wiki:April Fools/Template:{{{1}}}}}
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 14:27, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

It's really not that much work to use the AFD version of the original template, and April Fools' Day isn't the main point of the Wiki anyway.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:49, 6 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial I have added this to {{AF}}.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:30, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

Permission for creating a Scratch Wiki custom signature.

Hi! Can I create a Scratch Wiki custom signature? I already created it .
-StayBoy- talk • contribs • profile

@-StayBoy-

Of course, you don't need permission to create a signature. However, read S:SIG.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

08:08, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

@-StayBoy- Please remember to include your timestamp though. Either set your signature in Special:Preferences and use four tildes, or manually put five tildes after.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:38, 10 March 2025 (UTC)

New mediawiki extension suggestion

<snapblocks> <snb>
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 02:48, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial Are you asking for a Snapblocks extension to be implemented? While I don't think that would be very technically challenging, the issue is that it would be rather useless. Since Scratch Modification content isn't supposed to be in mainspace articles, the only place that this could realistically be used is in the Snap! article, and I highly doubt an extension that only benefits a single page would be accepted.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 02:59, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Does such an extension already exist? If not, I think it would be hard to justify the development effort it would take. Additionally, this is not the Snap! Wiki, and there would be minimal benefit to adding a plugin that would only be useful on a few pages.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 13:57, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Aren't there already Snap! rings in the <scratchblocks> thing?

Look,({It's in a ring!::sound}@addInput::ring)::motion

So adding something like this would be totally useless, since it already exists.

Abdavark (talk | contribs) 02:01, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

Can't you just use script pics? Those are much better as you can import the script directly into the editor by dragging the image. I doubt this tag would be useful for many pages.

@MillionOfficialI can confirm a Snapblocks extension exists, but it conflicts with Scratchblocks as it provides scratchblocks tags for compatibility.

@Abdavark Snap! has more features than just rings, such as icons and multi-line text. Snapblocks provides rendering for these.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

18:24, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER You can create every Snap*!* block with scratchblocks, I believe. There's a topic somewhere in the ATs where I did it 4 years ago.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:18, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Pi

Add, that Pi day on the news is here, admins and experienced wikians.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 14:21, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1: In the past we haven't put Pi Day in the news since it's usually a pretty minor celebration (like just a featured project).

jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:43, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Bulgarian, Tagalog, Telugu, ect in the front page

Can you add the languages in the subject or there are requirements for a wiki language to be added?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:52, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

This is the English Wiki, so as one would expect the contents are going to be in English. The home page already has a lot of content on it, adding more info about translating it to other languages would clutter it up too much.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:53, 12 March 2025 (UTC)

Can April Fools' pages go in the FAQ category?

Should April Fools' pages with the FAQ template go in the FAQ category or not? External link leads to the category, because MediaWiki doesn't like direct links to the category.
Abdavark (talk | contribs) 01:51, 13 March 2025 (UTC)

No they shouldn't. They aren't actual FAQs.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:31, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, that's what I thought. I've removed all the April Fools' pages already in the FAQ category from the FAQ category.

Abdavark (talk | contribs) 17:37, 14 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abdavark

Note: You can use internal links to categories by adding a colon before "Category" like this: [[:Category:FAQ]].

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 02:09, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Octostudio

Octostudio is made from MIT and it's basically just Scratch for IPhone and Android. Should I make a page on it?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 14:07, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

I'm going to assume no, as it isn't related to Scratch directly. If it was similar enough to Scratch that it could be considered a modification, it still wouldn't get added due to the rule on modification articles.

ThisIsTemp1 (talk | contribs) 18:38, 15 March 2025 (UTC)

@ThisIsTemp1 There is an article for CoCo, which is also made by MIT. Also, OctoStudio was created by people who were formerly on the Scratch Team. I assume it would fall under the exception to S:SPP, where at least one ST member is involved.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

12:14, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

Participate in SDS from Wiki

Resolved ^{(since 13:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC))}

I know private messaging isn't allowed on Scratch and that you're not allowed to say you're banned from Scratch, but users can do the following to participate in an SDS while banned.
First, they will use Scratch to make their sds design.
Then, they will upload it to google drive.
They will set it as unlisted so that only the user with the link can see.
After that, they will privately message with a Wiki Admin (not through email) and include the sb3.
To conlude, the admin will upload the project on Scratch and put it in SDS.
I think a mediawiki extension for this would be great. Please tell the Scratch Team to let nobody miss out on the fun!
M_ILLIONO_FFICIAL | T_ALK - C_ONTRIBS 06:16, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

If you're a Scratch Wiki user, you have to be a Scratcher. So you can just put the project into the SDS?? I am confused here

Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:51, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial First of all, why let banned users participate in the SDS? They can just cause more trouble.

Secondly, why Google Drive? After all, that isn't even allowed on Scratch. Neither is PMing. That would get the wiki in trouble and the ST would stop endorsing it.

Also, the Wiki is meant to be a place for documenting Scratch. Why make an extension for a very niche purpose, with barely any outcome? I can safeely confirm this is not going to be added.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

13:52, 16 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial I know this has been marked as resolved, but I'd like to give my two cents: If someone is banned from Scratch, they're banned from Scratch. If a banned user can't participate in the SDS, that's because the Scratch Team has given them a chance and decided not to allow them to continue further activity on their website. The Scratch Team reserve the right to do such.

Meanwhile, the Scratch Wiki is not going to implement a system that allows people to evade their bans, because not only are Scratch and the Scratch Wiki two completely different websites with a different leadership and different code under the hood, but also because implementing said system would miss the point of being banned in the first place.

minikiwigeek2 (talk, contributions⁽⁴⁸³⁾, scratch) 00:03, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@MillionOfficial I would also like to give my thoughts:

If you're banned from Scratch, you're banned from Scratch. This means you cannot use any part of Scratch, including SDS projects.
You cannot use or mention Google Drive in public Scratch settings - wiki admins are just regular Scratchers, the rules apply to them, too.
Google Drive doesn't even have an 'unlisted' setting. Everything starts as "unlisted", I suppose, as there's no public google file viewing.
How would they privately message a wiki admin?
Lastly, why?
han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 23:08, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Bounce block tutorial?

I was looking at the If_on_Edge,_Bounce page and remembered that I knew a way to create the "bounce" block mentioned. I am pretty new to the Scratch Wiki which is why I am posting here. I ask if it would be okay to create a tutorial page on how to create that block, or add it to the List of Block Workarounds page under "Non-Existent Blocks".

Thank you.
Gamdapiko24 (talk | contribs) 02:48, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

@Gamdapiko24 I would lean towards adding it to the list of block workarounds. That's why there's no "How to Make a Break Loop Block" article.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

23:33, 17 March 2025 (UTC)

Group Changing issue

Hi! I made 57 edits and my Scratch Wiki account is 1 month old but in my account prefrences it is showing New Wikiàns but Wikians should come in the member of groups (showing in the account preferences)
-StayBoy- talk • contribs • profile18 March 2025,07:31(UTC)

@-StayBoy- Be patient.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 03:03, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

How can I delete my responses and topics?

I regret replying and making new topics with that are resolved, how can I delete them and if I can't - how can you delete it? I want to delete: -Help me again -Did they wiped from extincence all scratch mods pages -Can't play most videos on April Folls Gobo page and can't acses Wayback Machine. -A bit of a rant about the 508 situation my response.
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 19:30, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 Much like Scratch, on the wiki we don’t delete replies/comments by users unless they’re inappropriate. If you would like to archive your own talk page, you may, and if you would like to delete any user pages, you may request that by adding {{delete}} to the page. You can’t delete messages or topics on the CP, as those are kept for historical purposes, and could make other conversations (or their own) confusing.

han614698 talk • contribs (2,573) • profile 19:38, 18 March 2025 (UTC)

New SDS

Resolved ^{(since 18:55, 20 March 2025 (UTC))}

Nifty Effects Feb 12
-unsigned comment by Philip0210 (talk | contribs)

Done - we already updated this when it first came out

jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:55, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

What is "Your Sandbox" to?

Done What is "Your Sandbox" to?
KongTullman (talk | contribs) 18:28, 21 March 2025 (UTC)

@KongTullman It goes to the page User:[YOUR USERNAME HERE]/Sandbox

Abdavark (talk | contribs) 14:42, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

@Abdavark I meaning, what can i do there

KongTullman (talk | contribs) 17:25, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

@KongTullman It's for practicing editing and testing stuff. You can put whatever you want in there as long as it's appropriate.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:51, 22 March 2025 (UTC)

How to make Scratch blocks?

How do I make Scratch blocks on Wiki? Is it like discussion forums? It would help me a lot since I want to make a new article in the wiki and create a tutorial on how to use blocks (I'm still thinking on what type I'll use)
Myroslava2015 (talk | contribs) 16:09, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

@Myroslava2015 This article contains a lot of information about how to use the Block Plugin. However, what exactly do you mean by a "tutorial on how to use blocks"? If you're referring to a tutorial on how to use them on the Wiki, then the article I mentioned earlier covers that information.

(Also, you deleted the previous discussion to make this one, so please use the "Add topic" button using the pencil icon instead of replacing another discussion. And also, please put your signature after your message instead of before your message).

BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 16:50, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

@BrilliantGamer6 I meant I wanted to make a tutorial with using them (so I won't create screenshots with those blocks). Also I didn't know I should put my signature after my message (sorry)

Myroslava2015 (talk | contribs) 16:55, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

@Myroslava2015 Oh, okay, that makes sense (assuming you're saying you want to create a tutorial like one of these). And, as for the second part, it's fine, you now know.

BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 17:08, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

@BrilliantGamer6 Wow, thank you a lot! I have added it to my sandbox.

Myroslava2015 (talk | contribs) 17:35, 23 March 2025 (UTC)

How do I change my signature?

Resolved ^{(since 17:36, 24 March 2025 (UTC))}

Hello guys. I tried to change my signature, but ehhh... I don't know how to make it colorful or something :P the only things I added is some emojis and my gender. Anyone please help me (I don't know how to do it) xD 💫
Myroslava2015 (talk | contribs) 😎 [she/her] 17:05, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@Myroslava2015 See S:SIG. I highly recommend reading that and learning basic HTML and CSS before creating a signature. Don't worry, it's quite simple!

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:26, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@A-MARIO-PLAYER Thank you! I'll try it. 💫

Myroslava2015 (talk | contribs) 😎 [she/her] 17:34, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

@Myroslava2015 By the way, please add a timestamp to the {{resolved}} template using {{resolved|~~~~~}}. Don't worry, I've done this for you.

A-Mario-Player | Talk | Contribs |

17:36, 24 March 2025 (UTC)

New file

I uploaded a file about that sensing note with cloud variables thingy, I can't find the file. Where is it?
Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:03, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

@Scratchtheguy1 You have not uploaded any images within the last week.

Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:32, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Oh.

Scratchtheguy1 (talk | contribs) 17:56, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

Is this a searching glitch?

After I edited (if I counted correctly) 21 pages by changing the words "amount of" to "number of", I was going to see if there were any mistakes in articles using less/fewer incorrectly. However, searching "less" shows nothing, even though there are pages that contain the word. Apparently, the same thing happens when searching "more", even though there are also pages that contain that. Is this a glitch, or is there a reason for this?
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 20:08, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

We use the out-of-the-box MediaWiki search, which isn't the world's best search engine. It's also possible that since "less" is such a common word, it doesn't even bother indexing it.

jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:25, 25 March 2025 (UTC)

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