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Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 11:09, 4 May 2018 (UTC)

(I have edited this topic a little from its original version)
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
08:16, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
Should we add a rejected topics section so that we know which ones to archive?
12944qwerty Logo.png 12944qwerty  Talk  Contribs  Scratch  22:51, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
Updated the list as the author.
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 09:36, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 10:43, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
Logo of Apple502j.jpg Apple502j Talk/Activities 2,243edit 14:16, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
Removed one now-archived topic, might need to redo this eventually.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:11, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Logging server faults

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See dedicated subpage
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
09:38, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

User Talk Pages

Yes Resolved (since 30 June 2023)

What are user talk pages for? Kpoovakan, Wiki Editor and Scratcher. Learn more about me at https://scratch.mit.edu/users/kpoovakan/ or at
Kpoovakan (talk | contribs) 00:59, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

1. User talk pages are used for sending a message to a specific user.
2. Why is your signature so long? It breaks off ito 3 lines, and the custom signature guidelines say that custom signatures should only occupy one line.
2tables.png 2tables TalkContibutionsScratchEdits (905) 01:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
Their signature is just the normal scratchsig, they've just written stuff in front of it.
UserIconAdzboy.png Adzboy β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Scratch Profile 16:11, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
I think they meant the whole "Kpoovakan, Wiki Editor and Scratcher. Learn more about me at https://scratch.mit.edu/users/kpoovakan/ or at" part.
Mybearworld.svg mybearworld β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Profile 17:52, 30 June 2023 (UTC)

Why is there a rule that you cannot create any of the subsections of the main page as AF subpages?

Yes Resolved (since 15:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC))

I don't see why this should be a rule...
Ilikecereal1 (talk | contribs) 14:21, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

All corresponding subsections are on the joke home page itself; the rule against creating the subpages is likely to keep them in one place.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 15:30, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

How can I have a different username on the Scratch Wiki?

Yes Resolved (since 22:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC))

I've been referring to myself as BobRocks20 since 2020 and while I know you can't change your username on the Scratch website (with some exceptions), I want to have my current wiki username changed to reflect my preferred username. I know one wiki editor whose username in the wiki is different from his Scratch username and his name is Jammum so I guess that means its possible to do that. If so, how?
Cutebross260IsBack (talk | contribs) 21:26, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

As far as I know, it's not possible unless your Scratch account username was changed (this happened to me). Afterwards, an admin will change your Wiki account name. The Wiki admins don't change usernames for request or for personal preference. Jammum's Scratch username differs from his Wiki one because he originally requested an account on his @Jammum Scratch account, however later moved to his current one @SausageMcSauce. So he never really had a username change; he just moved accounts.
Kanga logo.png KangaCoder talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 21:57, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
Oh, okay. I've been wanting to move accounts for a while but I can't do that...it's a long story. Thanks for telling me.
Cutebross260IsBack (talk | contribs) 22:08, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Talk page inactivity

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I have noticed in the past few months that very few edits have been made to talk pages across this wiki. This includes the Community Portal, where there has been a two week gap between edits, and a week's gap between this being posted and the last revision. The number of active users has not decreased massively (78 at the time of writing), so are users less interested in posting on talk pages, or might the welcome page on talk pages be often overlooked? There might not be an actual reason for talk page inactivity; these are just some theories.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 17:06, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

I think the reason is no one is interested in talking is because they just don't want to go through the effort of checking the talk page for replies when they ask a question for an article. For example, I had sent a message on some talk page about half a year ago, and I didn't get replies after two months so I just did the edit. Most people just prefer to edit it and let other people revert/undo it if it shouldn't be there.

The Diccustion Invitation page exist but then most people see the invites after the discussion has been finished by two people. Thing is, no one is encouraged to make talk page edits. I remember there was this user who edited 90 percent main pages, and they were congratulated for having all mainspace. There was also a user who only had 7 userspace edits [they left the wiki], the rest were all mainspace and talk pages, but no one recognized them for it.

I think people would edit talk pages more if we gave them a incentive to check talk pages.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 04:22, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
Another theory involving talk page inactivity, even though it might be a bit like a self-fulfilling prophecy, might be that they become less visible/abundant in Recent Changes through a first major decrease, then resulting in an even higher decrease in posts.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:47, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
(another addition) Some proposed changes to articles through the talk page would are becoming more difficult to implement due to this phenomenon, due to needing the agreement/consensus of multiple users, which might be more than the unknown number of users who regularly watch talk pages.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:50, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
According to what I've seen, there are around 7 people who comment on talk pages.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 15:17, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed this, too. I have become much less active due to the lack of talk page activity. The lack of activity makes it hard to get stuff done that needs consensus. It also makes it hard to know what is needed there. So I went to checking the wiki a lot but not doing anything to not checking the wiki at all. I have previously signed up to discussion invitation, but I got removed due to inactivity. The main Scratch website has also seemed to get quiet, too.
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)
I would say talk page activity is secondary to mainspace activity, for sure. There's a reason we focus on mainspace contributions. S:BRD also defines Discussion (talk page edit) as subsequent to both Bold (mainspace edit) and Revert (mainspace edit).
I think there are a number of solutions to talk page inactivity, each with their drawbacks:
  • Technological - add Echo or some other method of notifying people when they are replied to. Drawback is that this requires technical effort and possibly an overhaul of the skin.
  • Cultural - people should use their watchlist more and ideally turn on email notifications if that's their forte. Drawback is that this requires a community cultural shift.
  • Procedural - start using discussion invitations much more eagerly, perhaps as soon as topics are posted. Drawback is that this may be annoying to some and also puts more burden on those posting on talk pages.
Bear in mind also that it's currently summertime. A lot of our activity in general happens during the school year since that's when people use Scratch (at school) and thus the Wiki. Another solution may simply be to wait.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:52, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Quite a few of these ideas seem useful for proposed solutions to increase talk page activity; I have a few comments about a few of them:
  • For the Echo proposal, there has been an attempt by Jvvg to implement it, although it was eventually oversighted and needs re-implementing again due to 1.39 skin updates.
  • S:DIS's activity, I think, is starting to slow down, but I think it is still useful to invite participating users into discussions; I think it could be promoted more.
  • Now replying back to something in my original post, I mentioned in one of my posts that one possible reason for talk page activity decrease could be users oversighting the welcome tutorial (although I do not think anything can really prove it). I think the welcome pages as a whole seem a bit wordy (some content comes from an old Wikipedia tutorial) and some of it could be updated to mention some Wiki procedures, so would a Welcome tutorial overhaul be useful?

Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 08:29, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Certainly couldn't hurt to overhaul the Welcome tutorial. Please propose it in a separate topic and perhaps make a S:SWP out of it.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:05, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
I might think of creating a topic about a welcome re-haul eventually (I might also bring up the inactive Scratch Wiki Adventure and whether it is still feasible).
Another thing regarding S:DIS, I think a promotion of it should be added to the Community Portal help box. I recently added the list of unresolved non-CP discussions (although I think no changes in activity were made).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:38, 1 August 2023 (UTC)

Add image-rendering: pixelated to the pixelated emoji

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As visualized in User:Mybearworld/Demo, the emoji can get a little blurry when scrolling. Could someone who has the necessary priveleges surround all the pixelated emoji with <span style="image-rendering:pixelated">...</span>?
Mybearworld.svg mybearworld β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Profile 18:10, 29 July 2023 (UTC)

Now 10milemoji.png also looks pixelated - not sure if that's that great.
Mybearworld.svg mybearworld β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Profile 06:53, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
I don't have the time to exhaustively test each emoji, and given my vision my judgement may also be flawed. Can you go through each one and determine which should and shouldn't be pixelated? Then I can make the necessary edits.
Note also that I haven't edited the individual emoji templates like {{smile}} etc., which {{e}} uses. Those can be updated with your more detailed investigation.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:00, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
The forum emojis (:), Forum Smiley - Straight Face.png, :D, :O, ;), :/, :P, Smiley - Cat Face.png, LOLβ€Ž, x(, Forum Smiley - Rolleyes.png, B)β€Ž) are really the only ones that need changing, as they are actually made to be pixelated.
Mybearworld.svg mybearworld β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Profile 07:11, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

New navbox suggestion

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I am proposing a new 'Scratch Events' navbox for pages in Category:Scratch Events and subcategories. I am mainly proposing this because several of the Scratch Camp pages link to several of the other Camp pages, which some of them might be inconsistent, and it might be useful to link from other non-Camp events from others.

The page is currently stored in my sandbox for drafting.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 10:49, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Support, this makes it easy to view the various events without having to go into the cat itself, which not many viewers do.
Kanga logo.png KangaCoder talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 23:42, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

Update the Scratch News to include the new SDS!

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

As soon as they made the announcement for Beaches and Seashells on the website I decided to make the needed updates, but I can't include the new SDS thing to the News. Can a higher-up do that for me, please?
Cutebross260IsBack Icon.png cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 23:19, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Yes Done
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:17, 17 August 2023 (UTC)

Scratch wiki is extremely slow right now

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Currently the wiki is extremely slow. It is taking a long time to load pages (sometimes 5 seconds or more). Recent changes is taking 20 seconds. The parser profiling data for this page shows a CPU time of .444s and a Real time usage of 5.32 seconds.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 00:57, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

I think the problem was on your end, because the pages were loading fine yesterday for me.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 05:31, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
In the future plase report this on Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Logging server faults instead of the full CP. But also sometimes the Wiki is just under heavy load for whatever reason and it's usually a good idea to wait a while before trying to make further requests.
That being said, parser profiling showing 5 seconds is concerning. I'll bring it up but I doubt there's anything we can do without a repro case.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:07, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
I think it was caused by a browser extention. (note: i noticed this over a month ago)
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 23:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
An extension would not have any effect on the parser, which runs server-side.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
07:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)

Search this talk page and it's archives not working

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The Search this Talk page and it's archives button on the Community Portal doesn't work correctly. If you type something into the box and press the button, it brings you to a search page that says 'Only searching in pages whose title starts with "Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal#"'. However, there are results outside of the Community Portal.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 16:51, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, that box hasn't worked since several MediaWiki versions ago. If you happen to find a way to fix it I can put the fix in but I don't have the bandwidth for it personally.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:05, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
There probably is no longer an option for searching subpages on the search page anymore in vanilla MediaWiki, but the functionality is available in a MediaWiki extension called AdvancedSearch, according to MediaWiki's website, but is requires some extra software other than MediaWiki extensions to be installed along with it.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 07:58, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Why not remove the option for it then? It's just adding to the page size and confusing some wikians (like me).
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:24, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
I agree. Or at least change the button to say (broken).
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 23:09, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

On an article about Tone Indicators

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I would like to hear your thoughts on the creation of this article. To contribute, go here.
Cutebross260IsBack Icon.png cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 14:08, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Cutebross260IsBack Icon.png cutebross260IsBack ( Talk ⍨ Contribs ⍨ Scratch (BobRocks20) ) 15:11, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

List of FPCs is outdated.

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

The list of front page curators is outdated. It says that the current curator is DragonCatSloth, but their shift has finished, and the current FPC is bessi_official.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:06, 7 September 2023 (UTC)

Unless the FPC schedule has changed, DragonCatSloth only began their shift on September 4, three days ago. Were they unable to complete their shift?
Anyway, per my recollection, WikiMonitor checks the current curator daily. It should update at some point soon.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:19, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Turns out the FPC schedule has in fact changed. I've updated Curator (front page) accordingly.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
04:55, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
Well, Wikimonitor was probably going by the old start date, because now the FPCs start on Wednesdays. The list of curators is still on DragonCatSloth. See this.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:00, 8 September 2023 (UTC)

An explanation of today's downtime

Yes Resolved (since 21:36, 5 October 2023 (UTC))

Hi everyone,

Over the past 90 minutes or so, the Wiki has been intermittently down. This was caused by me finally implementing a solution to the performance problems we've had the past few weeks. Basically, I found a bunch of outdated server software (PHP version and a number of PHP extensions) and updated it to newer versions. In the process, this completely erased everything we have in the cache, especially the localization cache. Running the Wiki with absolutely nothing in the cache is an extremely computationally expensive thing to do, and basically our server couldn't handle the load. This started to resolve itself on its own as cache entries started to get populated, but was going to take a long time before we were fully back up and running as normal. To avoid prolonging the problem, I took down the English Wiki, which has by far the highest traffic, while rebuilding the localization cache for all of the Wikis; if I did not do this, the server would not have been able to run the script to rebuild it under the load. We should be good going forwards and the Wiki does seem to be performing much better now. If any issues come up, please post them here, or if the Wiki is unavailable, on our Wiki forum topic.

Thank you everyone for your understanding, and apologies for the disruption.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:21, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

Scratch 0.x pages rework

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There are currently 15 Scratch 0.x pages on the Wiki (plus an extra one that's a work in progress), although there are many more 0.x versions. However, making a page for every single 0.x version would be unfeasible and pointless since there are over 100 0.x versions that have been discovered. I suggest that pages should be made for versions in a specific time frame (for example, "Scratch versions from April to June of 2006") rather than pages for specific versions.
Ametz807 (talk | contribs) 22:16, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

My preference would be to only make pages on 0.x versions that introduce significant/major changes to the Scratch interface (e.g. 26May04); that way, the wiki isn't cluttered with pages about versions that are virtually identical and there's complete coverage of the hundreds of 0.x versions.
Default Scratch Avatar.png ssvbxx (talk | 415 contributions | Scratch profile) 13:23, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Recent Changes is temporarily unavailable

Yes Resolved (since 21:35, 5 October 2023 (UTC))

Hi everyone,

As part of the effort to avoid the 508 errors we've intermittently been getting, we have had to disable Recent Changes for now. Recent Changes is extremely resource intensive and my suspicion is that there is something that needs to be optimized with it that isn't currently optimized. We will look into this further and hopefully get it available to everyone again soon. Apologies for any inconvenience.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:49, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

Oh, thanks. I was wondering what is up with the Recent Changes.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 13:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
OK thanks for this info. If you see much asian IP's then this are my accesses because i live in Thailand. I hope this is not the problem. As a new administrator from the german wiki i am now a new poweruser of the wiki.
Lichtrebell (talk | contribs) 08:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
We saw our traffic double at the beginning of September. I don't think you could have been singlehandedly responsible for that.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:55, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
Is there any reason why Recent Changes is disabled again? I haven't experienced any issues with the wiki recently.
Default Scratch Avatar.png ssvbxx (talk | 415 contributions | Scratch profile) 16:17, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
We got 508s for an extended period yesterday, and some more today (though for a much shorter duration). I disabled RC again to see if that helps alleviate the problem, and will see in a few days the result.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 17:35, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
Just wondering do you have a idea on what is on RC may need optimized?
Scratchgodopfp.pngScratchgodo (Talk|Contributions|Scratch) 09:17, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
I have noticed that recent changes has extremely high loading times.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 23:05, 1 October 2023 (UTC)


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Hey, does anyone know what date the new SDS (transportation) was front paged? The API page on the news says July 31st which doesn’t make sense since the studio wasn’t created untiL September 5th. (trying to update the News page)
Kanga logo.png KangaCoder talk β€’ contribs β€’ profile 01:16, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

What's wrong with my siggy?

Yes Resolved (since 10/1/23)

In here, I think my signature doesn't work properly. So how do I fix it though? :(
Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 03:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Actually I solved this myself. I forgot the br thingy. Anyways, this is resolved
Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 03:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

Hopefully final report on the 508s

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hi everyone,

I have what is hopefully the final report on the 508 errors we have been dealing with over the past month or so. There were two main causes, and I will cover each one.

The first and less important cause was Recent Changes. Recent Changes was using very high amounts of CPU and RAM and multiple loading this at once could slow down the server. The stop-gap solution was to block it, but in the meantime we have implemented some optimizations to improve its performance and it is usable again. From my personal experience it now loads much faster. The one caveat is there are now lower limits on how far you can go back in time in order to avoid excessively large queries.

The second and more important reason was a surge in traffic from Bytespider. I set up a bunch of diagnostic tools to help track down slow scripts and spikes in traffic, and after the most recent 508s started popping up, I promptly looked at the server logs for suspicious traffic. I saw a large number of requests with a "Bytespider" User-Agent, which were sprinkled throughout the log but formed an increasingly large portion of the requests leading to nearly 100% of them at the time the 508s started. After doing some research on the topic, I learned that Bytespider is a web crawler made and operated by Bytedance, the company that makes the social media app TikTok. Web crawlers are programs that automatically look around the internet and find content for various purposes, most often search indexing (for example, Google has a crawler that indexes all the sites it finds periodically to keep their search indices up to date). However, unlike a lot of other crawlers out there, Bytespider does not respect robots.txt (which establishes rules regarding what web crawlers can do) and does not have rate limiting to avoid overwhelming sites. As a result, we were absolutely bombarded with them and it overwhelmed the server. All of the information I could find about them online recommended blocking them, so that is what we did. Within minutes of doing that, the 508s stopped and have not come up again. We are also looking into other mitigation strategies to avoid similar problems from popping up in the future.

Thank you everyone for your patience and apologies for the downtime. Please let me know if there are any further issues.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:37, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your efforts, jvvg. I admire your work and your high commitment with which you have found the solution.!
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:34, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

InterwikiBot (also used for Wiki Stats) didn't run since 2020/09/25 18:48

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The en:User:InterwikiBot by en:User:ErnieParke, which calculates Wiki statistic (see below) among other things, did not work since 2020/09/25 18:48. See e.g.:

Who could fix it?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:50, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Hi, I am afraid that it would not be fixed because Google Analytics, the ultimate data supplier for those statistics, have been dropped a long while ago, due to legal concerns.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
19:37, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
As Ahmetlii notes, Google Analytics across all wikis was disabled due to GDPR concerns. The International Stats page, however, does not rely on GA data and should still be running. ErnieParke is the correct person to contact about the matter. I will see what I can do.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
16:20, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
I can look into getting stats back up with IWB. Apologies for not being more active as I've been throwing up for over a year, something that's still clearing up, so I may be slower then normal.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 19:30, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
@ErnieParke Great you're back Ernie! :-)
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
@ErnieParke Did you already start to get Stats back working? It would be great!
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
12:04, 5 November 2023 (UTC)
@Ahmetlii + @Kenny2scratch I can't fully understand why the function of the Interwiki-Bot, which is to create interwiki entries and determine the number of pages accessed on our wikis, would need Google Analytics. Shouldn't this be possible without Google Analytics?

Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:31, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Well, there are indeed alternatives; according to an evaluation done in the aftermath of this, in a certain communication channel which I can't name or link per the Guidelines. However, none of the alternatives were deemed suitable for the Wiki's usecases at that time.
Ahmetlii logo.gif ahmetlii  Talk  Contributions  Directory 
04:09, 11 October 2023 (UTC)

Sorry about going \*poof\*. I'm still learning what causes me to feel awful, and that's a conversation I'm having with my PCP. That being said:

IWB Wiki statistics tracking does not use Google Analytics. If anything everything is down right now.

Also, while there are alternative services like @Ahmetlii mentioned, I wrote IWB from the ground up. Interwiki cross linking is an extra problem on top!

p.s. If I miss any commenting conventions please give me a refresher. Thank you! c:
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:08, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

As an update, I've managed to fix the networking bugs in the codebase and am looking to refactor the project next.
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 01:53, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
@ErnieParke: Thank you for continuing to fix your bot. Have you been able to achieve anything in the meantime?
Mtwoll logo.jpg MartinWollenweber  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
17:27, 15 February 2024 (UTC)

Featured image Update

Yes Resolved (since 18:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC))

Hello! I Recently Updated File:FollowLimitMessage.jpeg For Scratch's New Purple Theme, But Because Jpeg Images Have Caused Problems In The Past, I Uploaded It As File:FollowerLimit.png Instead. However, It Appears That the Jpeg Version Is Currently The Featured Image On Scratch Wiki Home. Could It Be Updated To FollowerLimit.png?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 16:48, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Yes Done
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

Delete my scratch wiki account.

Yes Resolved (since 15:56, 15 October 2023 (UTC))

Could you delete my scratch wiki account?
Jasphiresystematics (talk | contribs) 15:50, 14 October 2023 (UTC)

We don't delete wiki accounts unless in compliance with GDPR. As a result, you're best off signing out of your account and not using it (forgetting the password in your browser can be used too, if it helps).
09:52, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Jasphiresystematics (talk | contribs) 15:56, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

November Featured Images

Yes Resolved (since 02:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC))

Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for November. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 13:50, 15 October 2023 (UTC)

Alert.PNG this maybe?
Dahipuri (talk | contribs) 13:36, 20 October 2023 (UTC)
Yes Updated
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 02:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

How do I change the title of a page?

Yes Resolved (since 00:35, 22 October 2023 (UTC))

Is there a way to change the title of a Scratch Wiki page without creating a new page and moving the content there?
Stegie1234 (talk | contribs) 02:27, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

If you click the pencil icon on the top right, there should be an option called "Rename".
Ametz807 (talk | contribs) 10:23, 19 October 2023 (UTC)

No article on full-screen 3.0

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

There is an article on the same in 1.x and 2.0 versions but not 3.0. The 1.0 version gives a redirect to the 2.0 article for information on 3.0 but there is no information about that in there. Can anyone help me with it or we have to make a new article?
Dahipuri (talk | contribs) 13:33, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

I'm not sure that it's really necessary to make a page on Scratch 3.0's fullscreen. The reason the presentation mode article exists is because of the minor differences that can be found between them (and even then the article's quite short). As far as I'm aware, there's no difference between the editor's Stage and fullscreen mode, aside from a couple of minor graphical differences.
Ametz807 (talk | contribs) 15:14, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

Tips on how to create a good userpage?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

So I made a temporary userpage but I don't like. Any help on it/tips?
Kleemiya_the_furball (talk | contribs) 14:19, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Well, the definiton of 'goodpage' is different from Scratcher to Scratcher, so the first thing to do is define 'good userpage' You might wish to start looking at other's userpage (not mines! I feel ok with that temporary page). Then, you can try to get the thing you like to your page. Remember to have fun while doing so! You may also want to some templates or font!
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 10:21, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
"Good" is highly subjective, but if you want good tips, start by describing yourself, use headers to seperate the page into sections, add images that you like (projects or art you made) and make use of other formatting techniques to add flair to the page. Check out other users to get inspiration (but not mine)
78ch3ProfilePic.png 78ch3 : [My talk] | [Contribs] | [Main] 00:56, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

How do people got image with profile name 'Scratcher'?

Yes Resolved (since 09:21, 26 October 2023 (UTC))

How do people get images with the profile name 'Scratcher', like on the right?


I mean, I know that you can use F12 to open the inspection page and change the name, but it does not make sense that people use this on Scratch Wiki...
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 14:39, 25 October 2023 (UTC)

I think you answered your own question. People are using the inspector to change it. The reason would be to make the image more generic and avoid drawing attention to a specific user. There isn't a rule specifically requiring it, but some users do it.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:19, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
You can also use Inspect Element [in the right click menu] to edit the page [this method is easier that F12]. People normally make it generic so that the username in the image does not draw attention. However, we do have a few images with a non-generic usernames [the reason is sometimes that the page screenshotted does not exist or is not accesible anymore].
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 07:26, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
Okay, Thanks both! I'll mark it as resolved.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 09:22, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

How do you talk through mouses?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

How do you make your user page talk through mouses?
Jasphiresystematics (talk | contribs) 20:03, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

<div title="(insert message)"> I got this from jvvg, make sure to give credit.
Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 04:51, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Thanks! I will!
Jasphiresystematics (talk | contribs) 19:45, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

Dark mode

Yes Resolved (since 22:49, 31 October 2023 (UTC))

I know the wiki has a dark mode but I want to turn it off. I can't find any setting in appearance to turn it off. How do I turn it off?
Bluepig600 Logo.gif Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 23:33, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

The setting can be found here under "Use ScratchWikiSkin dark theme".
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 00:46, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
Okay thanks!
Bluepig600 Logo.gif Bluepig600(Talk - Contributes) 22:49, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

I want to reset my password.

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

So, i forgot my password and i don't know how to change it, so obviously i want to know how to change it, Can someone tell me how to do it?

Jas1000's PFP.gif

Jas1000 (Talk|Contribs|Scratch) 19:06, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

You can use Special:PasswordReset to reset it via email, or Special:ScratchPasswordReset to reset it with your Scratch credentials.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 19:31, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Should we add this?

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

Basically, we have a category for pages that have requested a merge, but we should probably have a category for pages that need to be merged. This would make it much easier to find the pages that need to be merged. It would tell if a page needed to be merged by if it's merge template had the third thing filled in (see merge template's page).
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 20:00, 15 November 2023 (UTC)

The category for 'pages that have requested a merge' and for 'pages that need to be merged' are under the same template of {{merge}}, and trying to create 2 catogries for a single template is not a good idea.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 20:31, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
Ah, sorry, I'm new to the wiki and don't know too much about the merge system. I just thought it might be easier lol.
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 22:39, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

How Do I Create A Header for My Userspace?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Apologies if this is an obvious question. But I've seen many users with headers on their userpage with various links. How do I create one?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 00:54, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

You can use templates. Create a page named User:Bobcat0701/header and add the header template's content there. And then you just need to {{/header}} to every single page of your userspace. (There isn't a better way to do so)
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 20:35, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Ok thank you!
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 00:07, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

December Featured Images

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Hello everyone! It's time to decide on featured images for December. If you have any suggestions, please leave them below. Please also include an explanation for why you think the image(s) that you suggest should be featured.

What can I suggest?

You can suggest any image(s) on the English Scratch Wiki that have not been featured previously.

How do I tell if an image has already been featured?

It will have the {{featured}} template on it, shown as a star icon in the top right corner of the image page.

Is there a limit to the number of images I can suggest?

No. However, please don't suggest too many... :P
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 02:06, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Broadcast Dialog.png
Maybe this? It looks great, and the boardcasting system is a major part of the Scratch Editor, although we can crop it a bit...
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 10:05, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

Fair Use page

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

We've recently deleted many Fair Use images. However, this is causing many dead links across the wiki (mainly the April Fools pages). Should we create a page explaining what happened to those image?
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 19:02, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

I don't think a page is needed just to explain this mass-deletion; I think it just need to be mentioned here.
To sum up, I have been mass-deleting fair use images from April Fools' Day pages; because those images are not being used educationally on the April Fools' Day pages, I have decided to delete many of them and explicitly mention in AF rules that they cannot go in AF pages.
I have mentioned this with other EW+ users off-wiki that I intend to mass-delete those images; there had been an unwritten, but rarely enforced, rule before then that about fair use images and AF pages.
I have removed a few image dead links to those files and uploaded new versions of some files that are free but with similar content; I intend to remove or replace many of the dead links eventually.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 19:18, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
OK thanks for this info.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 19:32, 18 November 2023 (UTC)

"Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data." Errors

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Lately I recieved this error when I submit an edit, multiple times:

Sorry! We could not process your edit due to a loss of session data. You might have been logged out. Please verify that you're still logged in and try again. If it still does not work, try logging out and logging back in, and check that your browser allows cookies from this site.

I've allowed all cookies for this site, and I can verify that I'm logged in. Resubmiting the edit seems to fix this. Is it just me or are everyone experiencing this problem? (Yes, I also recieved that error while trying to post this topic)
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 18:31, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

I have received this error only once. I know that MediaWiki here has had a minor update recently, so that could be one possible origin of this issue.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 18:43, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
It's happened to me around half a dozen times over the past month or two (and ironically it also happened while trying to post this).
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 19:45, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
I usually get it if I am in the page editor for a long time and try to save the edit so that might be the reason why it has been happening to you.
Scratchgodopfp.pngScratchgodo (Talk|Contributions|Scratch) 19:59, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
I don't think so, I posted my reply above in under 30 seconds.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 20:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
It could be a issue with the server then.
Scratchgodopfp.pngScratchgodo (Talk|Contributions|Scratch) 20:14, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
It couldn't a server error be because @Jammum only encounter it once even though he edits multiple times, but I received the error 10 times out of the last 10 edits.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 20:31, 19 November 2023 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ The error normally happens when you make another edit to any Mediawiki- supported wiki and then try to save edits on a different tab. It also happens if you don't submit edits for a long time, as mentioned by @Scratchgodo. If it is neither of the cases above, it probably means that you are submitting another kind of data at the same time. Normally when this happens, I just press save page again and it goes through.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 07:19, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Yeah, resumbitting the page works. I'm just a bit annoyed of it popping up every single time I edit.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 17:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Dark mode page preview bug

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))
The bug

So I found this out but when viewing a page preview in dark mode, the background of the preview stays white, while the text changes from black to white, making the text really low contrast. I think this could be solved by either forcing the text to be black, or making the background of the page preview dark.
Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 02:28, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

This isn't the only UI element like this, most of them still have the light gray text while changing the background to white (the edit header when visual editing, the error message when an image couldn't be uploaded, the pop-up menu for editing equations, etc.)
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 15:41, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Make sure to space your pages correctly!
Looks like your not the only one with the bug, it should be fixed. Not too bad but it is annoying.
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 19:04, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
Can confirm this bug. Really annoying.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:22, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
I've made a bug report about this a while ago on the dark mode issues thing, so hopefully it should be fixed sometime soon.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 16:55, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

How do you edit your wiki signature?

Yes Resolved (since an unknown date)

How do I do it? Because my one is the default Wiki signature.
NotK3ndricAlt (talk | contribs) 21:35, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Go to Preferences find where it says "Signature" and there will be a box in which you can create your signature. Make sure to click the save button at the bottom of the page when your done.
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 15:48, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
This section explains how to make a good Custom Signature. Please remember to check the rules here before you make one.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:29, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

How Will Wiki Wednesday Work if the Forums are Still down?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

This upcoming Wednesday (The 29th of November) is the last of November. If the forums are still down by then will a Wiki Wednesday still happen?
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 19:18, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

I will submit Wiki Wednesday as normal, but it will be up to the Scratch Team to handle it. I don't know what they're going to do at this time.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:38, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
Pardon me, but I do scratch on a school computer and I cant see the tweet scratch said about the shutdown, if there is one. Can someone tell me what they said, or if they didn't say anything?
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 18:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
The only update so far is this: "Heads up! Our discussion forums are currently down for maintenance. You can still share projects, comment, participate in studios, and use all other areas of Scratch as normal. As soon as we can reopen the forums, we'll share the news with you here [on Twitter]. Thanks for your patience!"
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:25, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday 46

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hello Fellow Scratchers. Thankful Thursday Has Returned After An 8 Month Hiatus. Here Are Thanks For November:

User Thanks

Ninjahanzo (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for adding the 3.0 and block links in the blocks list recently!
    Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 16:40, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Thank You For Applying Consistency Between Pages
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank You For Your Work On Continued Site Uptime
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
  • Thank You For Reviewing New Changes For Quality Control
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Jeffalo (talk | contribs)
  • Thank You For Analysis On Current Events
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
  • Thank You For Suggesting That I Revive Thankful Thursday
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Submit Some For Next Month At S:TT
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 00:00, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

*It's A 10 Month Hiatus, by the way. The last one was in January 2023.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Date Formatting on Articles

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There are 2 used ways to format dates in article titles:

  1. You can write it as (Month Date, Year) like in American English. Example: Studio Update (July 6, 2021)
  2. Or you can write it as on Date Month Year like in the rest of the world. Example: Filterbot Outage on 12 April 2022

But we have to be consistent. Which one should the whole wiki use? In my opinion, the second one (DMY) is better. Either one we pick, we should probably add the prefered date format to the Editing Conventions as there currently isn't a clear guideline on which one.

PS: Well, technicially it's implying that the second one should be used since the EC is saying that American Spelling Conventions are to be used. However, some people (myself included) disagree on it, so we might just discuss it.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:45, 1 December 2023 (UTC)

Well, I Do Happen To Like Date Formats ;). I Agree There Should Be Some Consistency And Have Thought About This Myself As Well. For Numerical Formats, We're Currently Using DD/MM/YY (Two-Digit Year), But YYYY-MM-DD Would Be Nice. For Fully Written Out Dates, I Personally Would Prefer The Second One. It's Not Just The "British" Way, It's How It's Written Everywhere In The World Except The US. Though The Obvious Counter-Argument Is That Scratch Is A US Organization. Personally, I'd Prefer It In Order And Without Needing A Comma, But If There's Strong Opposition I Don't Care. What's Most Important Is Being Consistent.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 19:25, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
I have a few opinions on this.
  • When a full date is needed, YYYY-MM-DD. This eliminates the DMY/MDY discussion and is also more sortable.
  • Date should come before event name, not in parentheses afterwards or after "on".
  • Only use the minimum specificity in dates required, but for articles about a specific event always include at least the year.
So the titles given as examples here should, in my opinion, be "2021 Studio Update" and "2022 Filterbot Outage". If there were another outage in May 2022 then we should have "2022-05 Filterbot Outage" and "2022-04 Filterbot Outage".
I'd appreciate if someone with more time than I do could find or create a category for articles about events in time (perhaps Category:History?) and categorize the articles we have, to ease the implementation of the consensus here.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
06:43, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Sure, I Can Implement Any Necessary Changes (Except On Protected pages) But You Didn't Share Your Opinion On Written Out Dates. Should It Be:
  • Scratch 2.0 was released on 9 May 2013
  • Scratch 2.0 was released on May 9, 2013
Alternatively, If By "When a full date is needed" You Mean That We Should Forgo Writing Out Dates Completely, Would That Be:
  • Scratch 2.0 was released on 2013-05-09
Please Advise Me On Which You Mean Because I'm Not Sure But Want To be 100% Sure Before Editing Probably Hundreds Of Instances. Thank You!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 07:31, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
My opinions above are limited to article titles. In the body, I would say as long as the month is named (May, not 5) it doesn't really matter (i.e. is not worth a dedicated edit). Our editing conventions are silent on the matter, which I suppose is why this came up here, but one could interpret the "most used" rule to mean whichever date format is more widely used. But the patriot in me prefers to interpret the requirement for American English in titles to imply it to be the default dialect used in the absence of clarity, therefore including the Month D, YYYY format.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
10:52, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
Announcements like the Wiki Wednesday or this one for server outage all use MMMM D, YYYY. It might be good to be consistent with the Scratch Team here (even though I really want to use DMY :P)
Mybearworld.svg mybearworld β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Profile 06:00, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, Scratch is inconsistent in dates itself sadly otherwise I'd have looked there from the beginning. My Stuff uses DMY, but comments use MDY. It's really weird.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 07:22, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

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Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 15:05, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

I wouldn't call that off-topic; it's slightly different, but no doubt a related topic. The confusion seems to be on the way dates are written out. Kenny2scratch pointed out that American spellings are to be used in titles, however, that's only for titles and not contents, and it's also unclear if that extends to date formats. You could also argue the "common name" clause would call for D MMM YYYY formatting. Who knows. Either way, I guess just change the *title* since that seems to be clearer and leave everything else on the /Not Done list.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 17:05, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
"Kenny2scratch pointed out that American spellings are to be used in titles" YYYY-MM-DD is not American.
Either way, I guess we'll have to write the conclusion in the Editing Convention or else someone else will have this discussion someday.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:37, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Yes, American spellings, not date formats. That's different. While numerical formats are YYYY-MM-DD, written formats (i.e. 15 May 2007) still isn't done yet so there is no conclusion to write at this time. That's why I wanted to wait. Is that OK?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 19:30, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
OK. In the meantime we can use the Discussion Invititation list.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:42, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
Some interesting backseat moderation going on here.
I'm not sure if I would call the opinion of one person (me) "consensus", but the few people who have commented here have not dissented from my opinions on titles. I agree that there should be more discussion before we move hundreds of articles.
The editing conventions do in fact specify that American "spelling conventions" should be used in titles, and I would agree with Mrsrec that that leaves them silent on the matter of date formats; anything more is extended interpretation tantamount to speculation. But even under such interpretation, my opinions include the intent that the proposed rules become the new, more explicit conventions.
I also think that while it wasn't the original topic in the OP, this is probably still also the right venue for a discussion on date formats in article bodies at large as well. I've already given my opinion on that matter above. However, the two matters are largely independent (you can't both move an article and make an edit to its text in the same action) so if we come to a consensus on one before the other they can be actioned separately.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
23:01, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
In my opinion, for article titles, if only the year is needed then putting the date before the event is fine.
  • For example, 2023 Forum Update. This is because you don't put on after it if the date is moved to the end.
If the month is included, then put the event before the date AND put the name of the month in before the year.
  • For example, Studio Update on July 2022. This is because it doesn't make any argument about mm/yy or yy/mm.
But if the date is included, then do not spell out the month.
  • For example, Censor Outage on 2022-4-12. This elimates dd-mm-yyyy or mm-dd-yyyy.

Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 17:18, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Is there any experienced editors that can help me?

Yes Resolved (since 14:43, 2 December 2023 (UTC))

I think there should be a page for Turbowarp. We have a page for Mod Share, which is in the same boat as Turbowarp. However, I just joined the wiki, and do not have the experience or confidence to make a new page, and also, I am not sure if it's important enough to start a new article. Can any Wikians that have experience with this help me out?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 11:22, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

We don't make new pages for mods anymore. See here for more details. Also, you can look at the methods listed here to learn how to make a new page yourself. (It doesn't require any permission)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 12:11, 2 December 2023 (UTC)
Ah, I see. So the Mod Share page is just an artifact of the old rules?
-unsigned comment by Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs)
Please remember to sign your post with ~~~~.
Well, technically yes, but they are considered 'notable examples' by the New Page Policy.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 14:43, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

AF pages

Yes Resolved (since 19:06, 4 December 2023 (UTC))

Do you need permission to create one or you just create one following the guidelines?
Kleemiya_the_furball (talk | contribs) 17:41, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

You can create one yourself so long as it follows these AF page guidelines.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 19:06, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Community Portal on the Forums Dustbinned

The Wiki forum topic was dustbinned for some reason, and gives you a 403 when you click it. Any reason why?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 20:33, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

The topic itself is still there. Did you click the link to the most recent post rather than the topic itself? If so then the post may have been deleted but not the whole topic.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:35, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
Yeah, I was going through the notif on my profile. ST mods have been aggressively taking down blockspam in the wiki, so it could be that.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 20:40, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

15 Years Of Scratch Wiki!

Amazing, Guys! Can You Believe It Has Been 15 Years! That's Almost 1/6th Of A Century! Check Out The Scratch Wiki Growth So Far:

Mrsrec SWArticles.png

Here's To 15 More Years!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 01:10, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Wow! That's awesome I'm excited to see the future of the wiki and how it keeps growing!
Bobcat0701 (talk | contribs) Insert generic signature here. 19:20, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
Bobcat, indented your post, please remember to do that
That's awesome, Scratch has been around for longer than I thought.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 20:16, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
Scratch and the Scratch Wiki are amazing things for sure. Here's to more growth!
ErnieParke (talk | contribs) 13:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
Crazy to see the effect that COVID had on user numbers.
UserIconAdzboy.png Adzboy β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Scratch Profile 08:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
@Adzboy It could be that Scratch 3.0 has just released in 2019, so the growth post-2019 is just huge.
Please let me know if I have pinged you.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 12:08, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Yeah the ping worked, sorry for the late reply @Purin2022
UserIconAdzboy.png Adzboy β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Scratch Profile 19:08, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

How is "sysop" pronounced?

Yes Resolved (since 13:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC))

Here's a somewhat silly question: how is "sysop" pronounced? Is it pronounced like /sΙͺsΙ’p/ (with a short I, as in sit) or like /saΙͺsΙ’p/ (with a long I, as in find)?
ErikKoevOffical_2nd (talk | contribs) 16:14, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Probably /sΙͺsΙ’p/ (sis-op) as seen on wikipedia.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 16:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
It's sis-sop, like bishop but with a s.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 08:49, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
Yes Done It's pronounced /sΙͺsΙ’p/.
ErikKoevOffical_2nd (talk | contribs) 13:28, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

A category/page for unfinished wiki-projects

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I feel like the wiki-projects aren't getting enough attention. I propose to create a page/category (or at least a CP post) for those wiki-projects (there aren't that many). Here are a list of unfinished projects I found (use Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:SWP):

Index Name Purpose Started on
SWP-002 Create other language tutorials Create tutorials comparing other programming languages with Scratch. 25/8/2018
SWP-003 Scratch Wiki Adventure Create the Scratch Wiki Adventure "game" to help teach new Wikians the basics of the Scratch Wiki in a fun, interactive setting. 11/21/2019
SWP-004 Account Request Feedback Create and maintain a page for new users to provide feedback on the account request system. 8/9/2020
SWP-005 Tip of the Day Create a panel that will show one tip for each day of the year. 8/22/2020

As you can see, all these projects are pretty old, and they are pretty unknown. Should we make a page for these projects?
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:34, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Category:Scratch Wiki Projects already exists to categorise unfinished SWPs, with completed ones put in a separate sub-category, so I think it could be mentioned at the top of the CP as well (although Not Done is virtually abandoned and linked at the top of the CP as well, so it may not make a huge difference).
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Need a response

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I posted on this talkpage a week ago and still have not gotten a response. Can anyone help me, please?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:31, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Yes Replied. In the future you can use the Discussion Invitation system.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 13:59, 10 December 2023 (UTC)

Too much spam on the wiki forum

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

The amount of blockspam on the topic is crazy. I think a whole page went down to just 3-4 posts after the ST removed it. Is there any prevention measures?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

I think a possible way to do this is to make the warning about unconstructive posts more eye-catching or visible (I think a lot of it on the forums is because of users skimming over posts instructions, which is probably very common elsewhere on the internet).
I have posted about this in the community portal before, in this topic currently in Not Done, although the possible remedies for spam I listed there are probably different than ones discussed in this topic.
Jammum Icon.png Jammum (πŸ’¬ Talk - ✍️ Contribs - 🐱 Scratch) 16:20, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
Unfortunately spam on the forums is very common all over the place, and our topic just happens to get more of it due to being a sticky. The only real countermeasure is to report it as soon as you see it and not respond to it (as that only attracts more attention).
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:31, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Echo extension is coming soon

Hi everyone,

Thanks largely to the help of Mrsrec for retrofitting our skin to show notifications properly, we are pleased to announce that fairly soon we will have the Echo extension available. This extension will allow users to mention each other in talk pages and receive notifications for it. This will be very helpful when replying to talk page messages for users who aren't constantly checking Recent Changes. We don't have an exact date yet, but hopefully it will be within the next week or so.

At least at the start this will only be implemented on the English Wiki, but if it goes well here, we will consider installing this on the other Wikis.

Please reply with any questions, and we will let everyone know of further updates and when this is ready to go.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 02:35, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

What do you mean by notification? A pop-up message that shows when you got a new message in your userpage, or else? Also, wouldn't the feature cause abuse? (like a new user can literally mention 50 users every 3 minute)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 20:09, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
We will have a notifications icon similar to the main Scratch site, and that will lead to a list of notifications. Abuse of the feature is against the rules and we will take appropriate action against anyone who does so.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:19, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
Will you ever add extensions based off of Echo, like Thanks?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 14:50, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Echo is now installed! I have asked mrsrec to write a reply to this post explaining how to use the templates that they have created to work with it. In the meantime, here is a demonstration:
@Co0lcr34t10nsWe are open to suggestions for additional extensions related to Echo but have not installed any yet.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:47, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
Woah it notified me this is so much better than checking my watchlist 12 times a minute when I need a response
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 16:07, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

We should have a filter for user-talk in the recent changes section

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Lately I've been noticing that usually recent-changes is full of changes to user-talk pages, and it kind of crowds out other things. So, I think we should have a filter option for them which would be enabled by default like the human-only filter. If you have any ideas for this please reply below.
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 18:26, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

You can already filter based on namespace, and that allows filtering out user talk pages if you want. I don't think we should enable this by default since there are some users (including myself) who want to be aware of user talk page conversations however.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:53, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Community Portal page resizing incorrectly

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Every time I visit this page, it resizes to about 70% the width of my screen. It doesn't seem like any other pages do this, and it also doesn't happen when I use the default Scratch Wiki theme (I'm using "Vector (2022)".
Stegie1234 (talk | contribs) 00:03, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Can't reproduce. All pages are the same width (60em, or as you say about 70% of my screen) when I switch to Vector 2022. It doesn't happen on ScratchWikiSkin2 since that's a completely separate set of styling.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:31, 18 December 2023 (UTC)


Hello Scratchers,

There is now a notification system on the wiki that you can use to get notified whenever certain things happen on the wiki, similar to Scratch!

I worked hard to add this feature to the wiki, and Jvvg and Kenny2scratch gave important feedback and updates about code.

You can check your notifications by clicking the brand-new envelope icon in the top right. Edit your notification settings in your preferences to get notifications about certain things by default, like when someone else reverts your edit, when someone links to a page you made, and when you reach editing milestones.

But the most important new feature is mentioning. Now, instead of having to write talk-back notices, you can simply tag another user on a discussion, and they'll get a notification. To do this, just write {{@|username}} like so.

@Jvvg How is the weather today?

These are brand new and I have never written major code for the wiki before so if something breaks I'm sorry! More experienced people will also be helping and solving any issues.

Scratch on!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 18:55, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mrsrec, jvvg, Kenny2scratch: Thanks for your work on this! Excited to have it! :)
Bigpuppy Logo.png bigpuppy talk β–ͺ︎ contribs 00:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Proposal to replace Discussion Invitation System notifications with pings

 Unresolved (see all...)

Currently, the discussion invitation system uses talk page notifications to notify prospective discussion contributors. Now that we have Echo installed and can ping users, I am proposing that if we want to bring in a DIS user, instead of leaving a talk page message, we ping them using the mention template. This has two main benefits: it avoids cluttering talk pages and it gives a record in the original discussion of who was invited. Any thoughts on this?
jvvg (talk | contribs) 21:13, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

This is interesting, because the discussion invitation system is a list of users who'd like to be invited to discussions, but theoretically, you could do it any way you want. Some people prefer Scratch comments over wiki talk page messages. I was planning on just changing the page, but since you made this proposal maybe that is better. If there is no opposition I would say it's a good idea to change the page to suggest that people tag them, and possibly delete the template. Though, people would still be able to post to talk pages using their own words.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 07:39, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
I'd rather keep a little bit of the formalism - perhaps a new template similar to {{@}} but that specifically highlights that someone is being invited under DIS, so that it doesn't look like an out-of-context ping.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
14:17, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Perhaps we can make a template that automatically pings everyone that signed up for DIS. The only downside is that it doesn't respect limits of people. However, adding an argument for the template that excludes some Wikians from getting a ping can help that.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 16:45, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
Nice idea! I support this. I wonder if DI Wikians like @Super_Scratch_Bros20 who have no listed limits have different opinions than those who do, like @Scratchgodo.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 18:09, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
@Purin2022 Maybe we can make it ping everyone who signed up for it while respecting their limits if we make a format for the people who want to have limits.
Scratchgodopfp.pngScratchgodo (Talk|Contributions|Scratch) 19:55, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
That didn't send me a notification...
@Scratchgodo It is techinically impossible. Some people have their limits per month while others have it per week, per day or even per 2 days. The software only recongizes per month. Additionally, some people also have timezone limits (like 3pm to 7pm IST everyday).
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 20:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜ @Purin2022 That is a shame, I thought it could recognise per week, per day and timezones.
Scratchgodopfp.pngScratchgodo (Talk|Contributions|Scratch) 20:22, 20 December 2023 (UTC)

@Scratchgodo It can but it'd be somewhat complicated to do. It might be better for people with strict bounds to not be added.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 21:58, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
Personally, I don't mind how I get discussion invitations. I don't mind if it's done via pings, my talk page, or even my Scratch profile. I don't mind how often I get invitations either. However, I recognize that many users have set boundaries that should be respected. So here are my thoughts:
Keep the current system for a bit. Don't remove the template. Treat pings as a normal way to send someone a discussion invitation. Simply say, "I wish to hear @User's thoughts on this", or something along those lines. If someone doesn't respect your personal boundaries, they can always be reported as usual.
I say we wait two months. In light of Echo being installed, we can run an experiment and see the most popular way users are being notified once Wikians are more accustomed to using pings on the Wiki. After those two months, we should make our final decision.
SSB Icon New.png Super_Scratch_Bros20 (talk / contribs) 21:08, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
It has been a few months since the proposal was first made. Just in the last few days I came across at least two instances where editors wrote DI should be used instead of pings or simliar. Of course, this proposal never actually got community consensus, so technically they are right. However, like @Super Scratch Bros20, I do think that user's should have the option to ping as a DI as it does save a few unnecessary edits (and therefore clog in RC) and is, in my opinion, more convenient than the original DIS.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I wouldn't say that telling someone not to ping others is "right". While the discussion invitation system exists as a way for people to ask for invitations to interesting discussions, there has never been a rule that you *have to* post on users' talk pages. Also, people are applying this more broadly-- not just to users on that list, but to anyone who is tagged t oa discussion, including ones specific to them. To me, it sounds like an unofficial prohibition on pings, which would ruin the purpose of even having them. So, I support switching the discussion invitation system to pings.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 13:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
Does a ping on someone's talk page ping them?
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 20:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
I think so.
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 13:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday 47

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

The thanks for this month are:

Jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for the help with fixing my Notifications code.
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Purin2022 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for letting me know of a possible oversight on my talk page
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for your continued improvements to the mainspace
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

See you next month!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 23:34, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

I honestly don't think I deserve TT, but thank you!
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:19, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Notfication Bug in Scratchwikiskin2 - Pencil Entering

Yes Resolved (since 10:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC))
Only in Scratchwikiskin2 — If one clicks on the pencil menu, then hovers their cursor to the envelope, it automatically directs to Special:Notifications, even if the only click was to open the pencil menu.

Status: Resolved

Remove the message icon's ability to "expand the drop-down-menu" if hovering from any other drop-down-menus — the code assumed that every button in the navbar is a drop-down-menu, which was correct before the message button was added.

Additional info — I have tested this in Chrome, Edge and Firefox, and I found this bug in all 3 browsers. Because the pencil menu only exists SWS2, this bug only applies to SWS2.
Purin2022 (talk | contribs) 20:46, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

@Purin2022 Huh weird... same for me and I'm on Edge. Might be because once you click, I guess it just forgets to unclick it? I have no clue :/. (side note: this website is slower than a dead turtle)
GatPic.png Gatgatcode ( Talk | Scratch | Contributions ) 02:58, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the report. I've reproduced this on my own test instance and opened a GitHub issue and corresponding PR to fix it. With luck this should be fixed by tomorrow.
In case you're curious, the issue was that the code assumes all links in the navbar open dropdowns, so when you mouse over from one dropdown link to another it clicks the latter for you and closes the former. The assumption was correct before the messages icon was added, but now erroneously clicks it for you when mousing over from the pencil dropdown.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
03:25, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Resolved; :) Thank you.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 10:47, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

A Second Notfication Bug - Custom Signatures don't Ping People

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Sorry admins, that's quite a lot of bugs...

Only posts signed with the default <scratchsig> can successfully ping people and send a notification. Custom signatures don't.

Status: Resolved


Note Note: The names of the custom signature pages are examples, but you can probably know why this bug is happening.

I believe the reason for this bug is that custom signatures are, in the end, just {{User:USERNAME/Real Signature}}. S:GOODSIG basically states to set the new signautre setting to be something like {{SUBST:User:USERNAME/minisig}}, whose content is {{User:USERNAME/Real Signature}}. In this example, when they sign with~~~~, it would be substituted with {{User:USERNAME/Real Signature}}.

S:MENTION states:

β€œ If you use a custom signature, you must ensure that your signature contains either a <scratchsig> tag with your name, or a wiki-link to your user page, your talk page, or your contributions. If your signature does not have any of these, no notifications will be delivered. ”

– S:MENTION, more emphasis added

So, literally, the wikitext {{User:USERNAME/Real Signature}} technically doesn't contain a link to a user's userpage (it's a transclusion), talk page, or contribs, even if the content of the real sig contains them. Therefore, no notifcation would be sent.

Hypothesis — I'm using a custom signature here. If I include a link to my userpage in this post, would this send a notification?

@Kenny2scratch, jvvg, Mrsrec — Please let me know if I have pinged you.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 12:01, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Ah, there seems to have been some confusion. We thought Echo did expand templates to find userpage links - it turns out that's only true for determining ping targets, not sources. This will need quite a bit more time and a second hack (the fact that <scratchsig> works is also because of a hack; Echo does not support it natively).
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
01:42, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Seems like "quite a bit more time" was a lie. I've implemented a second hack: anything that matches this regex (see below) should also count as a signature. @Purin2022 does this ping you?
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:13, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Okay, while that should have succeeded, I realized that the regex above doesn't account for things like "Real Signature" and have updated it accordingly.
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
02:18, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
I have been pinged. (Also, wouldn't that mean that signature names that doesn't contain the string "sig" would not be able to ping people?)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 10:26, 3 January 2024 (UTC)

Interwiki Links

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Since I now know that there is a bot that can insert all the missing InterWiki links, I will not invest a single minute of volunteer work there.

The only active administrator in the DACH Wiki is no longer interested in this topic. If you want interwiki links, please use the bot. In this regard, I'm just going on strike from now on.
Lichtrebell (talk | contribs) 04:53, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

Making Buttons

Yes Resolved (since 18:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC))

Hi! I'm new to the wiki and editing my talk page. How do I make a button (like the one at the top of this page for leaving a message)? I know HTML, so does a button tag work? Or is there some wiki markup I'm unaware of? Please respond on my scratch profile. Thanks!
Ilovestories (talk | contribs) 17:12, 9 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes Responded on your profile.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:06, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Should I do this?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I want to make a article on the banned user [removed],but i'm not sure if it would be appropriate for all ages due to what he did. Should I?
-unsigned comment by Glamrock Jolly (talk | contribs)

We don't make articles on specific users, especially if something they have done is against the community guidelines.
UserIconAdzboy.png Adzboy β€’ Talk β€’ Contributions β€’ Scratch Profile 19:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)

Should I make an article about [removed]?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I wanted to make an article on the banned user [removed], but i'm not sure if i should because of what he did. Should I make it?
-unsigned comment by Glamrock Jolly (talk | contribs)

wait why a double post? also sign your signature with 4 tildes (~~~~)
@Glamrock Jolly Anyways, sorry, you can't make an article about that because it shows user-generated content, which is not allowed on the wiki, and it also shows things against CGs too.
Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 00:07, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
In addition to what Ninjahanzo said, discussing other users' bans is not allowed on Scratch or the Wiki since that is a form of gossip.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 01:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

Two Questions - Image Updating & Subpages

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

How do I upload a new version of an existing file? And how do I make a subpage? Please let me know on my profile when you respond. Thanks!
Ilovestories (talk | contribs) 18:50, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

@Ilovestories To update an existing file, just go to the file description page, then click "Upload a new version of this file." To make a subpage, create a page titled "Original Parent Page/Subpage Title". For example, to make a subpage of your userpage, create "User:Ilovestories/Subpage Title".
jvvg (talk | contribs) 18:52, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

Shortcut Links

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Are there shortcut links for talk pages and contributions? Please let me know on my scratch profile when you respond.
Ilovestories (talk | contribs) 16:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Yes. (In fact, there are a LOT of shortcuts on the wiki) For contribs pages, they are [[Special:Contributions/YOURUSERNAMEHERE]] In your username case that would be Special:Contributions/Ilovestories. It is slightly more difficult for talkpages, as they have different Namespaces. Basically, if you are trying to link user talk pages, you can find them at [[User Talk:YOURUSERNAMEHERE]]. In your case that would be User Talk:Ilovestories. For other talkspaces (other types of talk pages corrsponding to other namespaces), find the page you want to link the talkpage, click on the pencil on the navbar -> discussion, copy the title of the page at the top of the page, but below the navbar, and surround it with [[PASTE YOUR TITLE HERE]].*
*: You could also link to normal pages (ie. pages where you put contents in), by copying the title of the normal pages. Yes, it's confusing, I know.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:43, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
Ilovestories (talk | contribs) 18:48, 15 January 2024 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday 48

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hi guys! Here are the thanks for Thankful Thursday 48!

User Thanks
Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs)
Mrsrec (talk | contribs)
Gdxfor (talk | contribs)
ErnieParke (talk | contribs)

See you next month!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 20:14, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

What template do you cite with

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

How do you cite? I could find nothing on it in the Help pages.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:18, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

@Co0lcr34t10ns — The template that is usually being used for this purpose (for quotes) is {{cite post|<Username of the Author>|<Date>|<Quote>|<Source>}}. The template has the shortcut of {{cp}}. However, it is also acceptable to just link the source in <ref>YOURLINKHERE</ref>.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:57, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Project Idea

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I have recently discovered TOTD and have begun adding some of my tips. Knowing how these projects work, I had an idea of another one that can be used on the front page: "Did You Know...?" Inspired by Wikipedia's DYK, this project is similar to the TOTD's format, but with a focus on obscure facts about Scratch rather than tips. These can be submitted by whoever wants to and will NOT cycle, meaning they will be taken from an infinitely growing pool at random, maybe using random.org. Thing is, I have no idea how to make templates, or do any fancy MediaWiki stuff. Is anyone willing to help?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 11:30, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

I definitely think that having random tips is a good idea; a lot obscure facts don't really fit into TOTD, and it encourages people reading the tips to read more obscure articles on the Wiki. I'm not sure I can help with making custom stuff, but I can definitely rey to provide some obscure facts about Scratch.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 13:04, 31 January 2024 (UTC)
Sounds great. I'll study up on MW Templates and see what we can do. Unless, (UNHINGED WARNING) we make a Scratch Embed on the front page. Prob a bad idea, but putting it out there.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:07, 31 January 2024 (UTC)

Can someone delete this page

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I have marked Delta Time with {{delete}}. Unless someone objects, could an EW or Mod delete this?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 15:33, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

The admins will usually delete something marked {{delete}} within 1 to 3 days even if you don't directly ask them to. Also, there's a special subpage of this page at Scratch Wiki talk:Community Portal/Admin Requests specifically for Admin Requests.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 15:53, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm just so scared of editing articles!

Yes Resolved (since 10:51, 11 February 2024 (UTC))


This is me, Mewingcat456. I am scared of creating and editing articles. Maybe someone would edit it in a way I don't like it, and it could start a Flame War or even worse! Can you help me not become scared? Reply on my profile, thanks!
Mewingcat456 (talk | contribs) 05:53, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mewingcat456 — Rest assured, flame wars will not happen. One reason it wouldn't happen is that 99% of the editors are very, very kind! Just like in the main site, people won't just start a flame war for just one action (they would got banned before you created your accounts if they do). Also, 'Bold, Revert, Discuss' exists on the wiki, which states that if one makes a bold edit and another reverts it, discuss the change rather then reverting it again. In your case, if Editor A makes an bold edit you don't like and you reverted it, Editor A is required to discuss the edit on the page's talk page rather then restoring their edit, which can lead to Flame Wars, which is prevented from the rule.
PS: I can't post this in the main site because appearently Scratch thinks that this has private information in it, which I don't think it has. Also, I've marked this topic as resolved for now. If you don't think it is, change the {{resolved|10:51, 11 February 2024 (UTC)}} to {{unresolved}}.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 10:51, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

Obsolete Feature on April Fools Pages

Yes Resolved (since 19:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC))

Hello, I am trying to place the April Fools edition of the Obsolete Feature template on an April Fools page. Could you help? You could reply on my profile if you want. Thank you!
Mewingcat456 (talk | contribs) 06:50, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

@Mewingcat456 — As of leap day 2024, there is no April Fools version of {{Obsolete feature}}.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:23, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday 49

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Here are the thanks for this month:

User Thanks

Purin2022 (talk | contribs)

jvvg (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for suggesting and implementing features into the Wiki, including the game-changing Echo extension.
    Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 14:41, 30 January 2024 (UTC)

Gdxfor (talk | contribs)
  • Thank you for your continued attention to detail.
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 08:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

SamSamnCodesScratch (talk | contribs)

See you next month!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 08:02, 29 February 2024 (UTC)

In which April Fools template contains a term for a kumquat?

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hello! Do you know which April Fools template goes along the lines of "Everyone thought that this section was so bad so a kumquat will eat it." so I could put it in my April Fools article? Thank you if you can respond! (do not question the signature i forgot to add it)
Mewingcat456 (talk | contribs) 06:13, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I'm assuming you've figured it out since the new April Fools page has the template, but for future reference the template is under the April Fools version of {{delete}}.
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 13:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)

How to add to a talk page?

Yes Resolved (since 17:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC))

Not talking about user talk pages by the way.
RethinkingVoxels (talk | contribs) 17:38, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

The same way! Click the pencil and then Add Topic.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:04, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

HTML Tutorial Useful?

Yes Resolved (since 17:45, 4 March 2024 (UTC))

This page includes a list of tutorials for other coding languages on this wiki. Would it be useful if I made a basic HTML tutorial?
Ilovestories-icon.pngIlovestories | User | Talk | Contribs If I asked something, notify me if you respond. 19:35, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

I believe so.
RethinkingVoxels (talk | contribs) 20:25, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
@IlovestoriesNo Not quite — SWP-002 (the wiki-project responsible for language tutorials) has the description of "Create tutorials comparing other programming languages with Scratch." As far as I know, you can't really compare HTML with Scratch, as HTML is a markup language which is completely different from a programming language anyways.
If you somehow figure out how to write HTML in Scratch blocks like in here, then I'd support a tutorial of HTML. However, this does not cover my views towards an HTML tutorial in other namespaces, like in the Scratch Wiki namespace.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 22:16, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
OK, I won't make one.
Ilovestories-icon.pngIlovestories | User | Talk | Contribs If I asked something, notify me if you respond. 16:43, 4 March 2024 (UTC)

jvvg's "talk through mouse" trick in an empty area

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hello, Hovering over jvvg's page will show a span trick. However, I want this span trick to go on an empty space, no text. Is there any way?
Mewingcat456 (talk | contribs) 07:02, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

I have done it! Wrap the span tags around the spaces only. Hover your mouse in between the words to see!
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 11:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)

Disagree on deletion of Delta Time

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Hello, I disagree with the deletion of Delta Time. But it is now already deleted. Can people explain why it was wanted to be deleted and let me know the reasons we shouldn't bring it back?
-unsigned comment by Mewingcat456 (talk | contribs)

Remember to sign your posts! Anyways, I'm the one that set Delta Time with {{delete}}. The page was a stub, had multiple issues, and the general topic is highly advanced. I asked and it was ok so I went ahead with it. If the page turns out well and shows easy ways to do it I'll be fine with bringing it back.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:46, 6 March 2024 (UTC)

Programmable Notifications

Yes Resolved (since 18:16, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

I have a welcome template that I try to insert on every new users' page. My problem is I can't see whenever a new user is created except by vague signals (such as @jvvg posting his welcome template. I was wondering if I could customize my notifications so that I could get a notif when anyone creates a user. I was wondering if a bot account could be used for that by {{@}} or some other means, but I can't program. Imagine a bot that posts on your talk page to generate notifs for things you want, almost as an alarm. Just an idea I had, would like feedback and coding help.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 10:39, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

You can look at Special:Log/newusers periodically to see when new users are created. However, we are not going to devote development effort towards notifying people when new users are created solely for the purpose of welcoming them. Welcoming users is marginal to the main point of editing the Wiki (creating and maintaining helpful mainspace content) and users already get enough welcome templates as-is. In fact, any bot for welcoming users is already a rejected bot idea, and in my opinion what you are suggesting would be an extension of that.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 16:22, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Conflicting Browsers when Taking Screenshots

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Recently, Purin2022 (talk | contribs) and I were talking here about taking screenshots depending on what browser. There are some things that differ from browser to browser (like File:Report a project - Selecting Other.png idk how to make the image link but not show up on the page. We already obviously don't take screenshots on mobile devices, so my question is, what do we do in this situation? (The specific issue for this one is the highlighting of the image looks different in Chrome and Firefox)
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 21:56, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

I feel like Chrome is a better idea because according to websites like this, Chrome is a lot, lot more popular than FireFox or any other browser, and we would add images that are seen by most people. (for example, in an image of the Wiki, there would be a purple nav bar) From the data, we'd reasonably assume that most Scratchers use Chrome.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 22:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 — put [[:File:FILENAME]] to make a link to a file (or category) instead of trasncluding them. File:Report a project - Selecting Other.png
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 22:06, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
@Purin2022 I'm okay with either, as long as we're still allowed to take screenshots in Firefox if it's the same in Chrome.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 22:07, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Templates in Deleted Category

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There are 27 templates in the deleted category, Category:Template_Redirects. Would it be okay to remove this categorization from these 27 templates?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 22:17, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

Discussion of bans on the wiki

Yes Resolved (since March 2024)

I would like to start by saying that I am not banned on Scratch, rather just curious about this subject.

So, about a year and a half ago, an admin removed my comment saying to someone else "It's sad you got banned". This seemed reasonable, and I'm not about to fight it, I think it should be banned on the wiki.

Now, I recently read a discussion on dertermenter's talk page between dertermenter and Kenny2Scratch. In his essay, dertermenter talked about details of his Scratch ban much deeper then "It's sad you got banned". The general consensus made by Kenny2Scratch in that situation was that talking about bans is allowed on the wiki, but not details.

So that brings up a question - is talking about bans on the wiki allowed? Like, per se, if I was banned on Scratch could I update my status to say "Banned on Scratch" or something? The dertermenter conversation had a lot more than just talking about bans, but that was part of it. There were two contradicting admin actions and I am curious which one is right.

Note: I am not trying to fight with anyone on this, and hopefully I'll never be banned on Scratch and have to deal with this. I just want to make sure I know the protocol so that I can continue to help out around the wiki.

Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 23:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

The policy I have used is that discussing active bans is not allowed under any circumstances, since this often leads to a lot of drama, using the Wiki as a place to vent about them, and users trying to gain sympathy (and occasionally even trying to get other users to advocate for them on Scratch), when in reality nobody other than the banned user and the Scratch Team know what happened. Generally we allow discussing past bans provided that they are discussed respectfully since those things aren't really as big a problem.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:15, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
Thank you!
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 14:46, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Display Title not Working

Yes Resolved (since 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Does anyone have any idea why my Display Title isn't working for my userpages? When I looked at the source of the page and pressed preview it said it was ignored - but when I removed the {{DISPLAYTITLE: }} and just looked at the wikitext, it was the same as the page name. So why doesn't the wiki think it is? Any help is appreciated.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 17:20, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

@han614698Display title has a setting called $wgRestrictDisplayTitle (which is true on this wiki) that "restricts display titles to titles that normalize to the same canonical database key as the real page title." In other words, in order for the template to work, the value inputted in the template must be equal to the actual page's name (case in-senstive). Or in another word, the template can only change the capitalisation of the name.
For the why, it's basically because the principle of a wiki is that you can link a page in the displayed title.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:02, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
No color changes either? I swear there used to be…
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 18:20, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 — That can be done with {{DISPLAYTITLE:<span style="YOUR CSS STYLE HERE">TITLE HERE}}. (I stole part of it from Kenny2scratch (talk | contribs))
Edit: The previous desciption of canonical database key was wrong: it depends on how MW handle capitalisations. (for example, for your userpage, USER:han614698 would be vaild, user:han614698 (with a lower h and u) is vaild, but user:HAN614698 is invaild)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:34, 17 March 2024 (UTC) (edited: 18:39, 17 March 2024 (UTC))

Admin Panel Imagery...

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I recently did some (deep) digging and found some archives of now-deleted forum topics... Turns out, in 2014 the admin panel was available for one day (I saw @jvvg did post on one of the topics). Here are the images that I found (one is hosted by me, one is not): https://imgur.com/a/5rKPT https://u.cubeupload.com/han614698/ADMINPANEL1.png Are these something that we want on the wiki and is there a good spot for them?
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 22:14, 16 March 2024 (UTC)

@han614698 — Looks like a potential duplicate of File:ST reviewing.png to me. There are some major-ish difference though so I'll leave it to someone else.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:06, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

Proposal: Add the ability to add multiple pages as parameters for {{main}}

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I feel like adding the ability to add multiple pages as parameters for {{main}}, simliar to {{see also}} is a good one because this can prevent the absolute chaos of having multiple {{main}}s in a single (sub)heading, like in Hidden Blocks#Counter. Yes, that will cause a bit of trouble in deciding whether to use page or article, but that can be solved with a bit of logic mess. (or maybe just add Lua to the wiki like in Wikipedia)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 18:26, 17 March 2024 (UTC)

How to make an essay/special page

Yes Resolved (since 20:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC))

Subject says it all
RethinkingVoxels (talk | contribs) 20:29, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

@RethinkingVoxels: To make an essay, just make a subpage of your userpage (e.g. "User:RethinkingVoxels/Essays/My essay title"). You cannot create special pages, as those are all either included in MediaWiki or from extensions.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 20:40, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Wiki Lag

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Lately I've noticed that the Wiki has been lagging a lot more than usual. It took me 20 seconds just for the portal to load. I don't think it's a problem with my PC, becuase I was just on the MC wiki and didn't experience any lag there.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 14:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)

@Vdiu — There's occassional lag to the Wiki at the moment. (at least on my computer as well) The CP is particularly laggy though as it has over 90,000 bytes of content! I guess the CP would be less laggy when it is archived.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:07, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
It seems to be very on and off. Sometimes it just goes laggy, even though other sites load fine.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 20:54, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Page Hide has incorrect info

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

At one point in the examples section of the page Hide, it shows a script that says:

when green flag clicked
say [You know how to play hide-and-seek, correct?] for (3) secs
say [Well you're it! Come and find me!] for (3) secs
go to x: (200) y: (-120)

when this sprite clicked
say [You're really good at this!]

Isn't it impossible to click a hidden sprite? If it is, is there a template I can mark this with so someone else can fix the code?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:27, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

@Co0lcr34t10ns In this case I don't think the script really is fixable at all and should just be removed. Otherwise, you can use {{Wiki Standards}}.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 14:14, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
@jvvg, @Co0lcr34t10ns—You can use the set [ghost v] effect to (100)andclear graphic effects to give the illusion of a sprite being hidden, but still being clickable.
EDIT: Forgot the obvious that this then doesn't fit with the Hide Block, so probably better to remove.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 18:07, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Thankful Thursday #50

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Here are the thanks for March:

User Thanks

Purin2022 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for helping with discussions
    Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:19, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
  • Thanks for keeping your name everywhere!

Han614698 (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for a useful content dispute and discussing disagreements respectfully
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Maximouse (talk | contribs)
  • Thanks for a continued stream of background changes; they all add up!
    Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

I hope to see my fellow Scratchers next month!!
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 16:23, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

Urgent: AFD Page not Displaying Correctly

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Whenever I go on an AFD page, it shows in a weird cursive font - is that intended? I’m checking my js page and there’s nothing there. It’s going to make it very hard to participate in AFD.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 12:08, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

@han614698 — Can you please post a link to an image of it? As far as I can tell I don't think there's a problem on the server's part.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch
@Purin2022 https://u.cubeupload.com/han614698/IMG2965.png
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 20:11, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 — Looks like a problem in your custom CSS.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 20:23, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
I fixed it. That wasn’t comic sans like it was supposed to be.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 20:29, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Is there a app for Scratch Wiki

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Is there a app for Scratch Wiki
Mahdir2111 (talk | contribs) 13:30, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

No, it's too much for the small code team to make. Scratch Team and the wiki team are separate, and while ST backs the Wiki, they do not fund any of it.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 14:02, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Permission to make Template {{dl}}

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Based off of {{cn}}, I think it would be nice to make it easier to type as well as reduce the page size. I'm not exactly sure how to go about doing this so I'll just ask for permission here. (Obviously I do know how to make the template...)
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 18:38, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

@han614698 — It does seems like a good idea (and yes, you do need community consensus), but the tiny issue is the "Why don't we make it for all [commonly used] templates?" problem. For example:
The thing is that {{dead link}} (114) is a bit less used compared to {{citation needed}} (308) and {{cite post}} (169)... Well, I guess we can create the shortcut(s) anyways... (PS: you can find how many times a template is transcluded here)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 19:50, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes Support. I like all of those, especially {{OF}}
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 11:47, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems like no one disagreed with the making of any of the template shortcuts. I'll until the 7th April and if no one disagreed by then I'll create them.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 15:28, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
Or I can. Whoever's online. :P
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 21:15, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 — We don't care who creates them. (lol, let's get back to topic)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 21:17, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜@Purin2022 Creating {{EP}}, {{of}}, {{ND}}, {{TTA}}, {{dl}} and {{cp}} (already exists :P) right now. It might take me an hour, beware, as I'll be busy.
EDIT: I can't create {{ND}}, {{Nd}}, or {{nd}} as they already exist. I have went with the capitalization of the end redirect resulting in: {{TTA}}, {{Dl}}, {{EP}} and {{Of}}. Everything is done, though! I do think that {{Dl}} looks like the letters "D" and "i" (but capital I), when it's really "D" and low "L".
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 23:38, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

@han614698 — Aren't {{ND}} different from {{Nd}} or {{nd}}? Of course, the capitalisation don't match anymore, but I think that's still better than no redirect. With that in mind, I don't think anyone would have a problem with it, but just in case, I'll leave it to the 12th April.
PS: This is a note that there was a topic about removing [[Category: Template Redirects]] on all pages because it doesn't exist. (it was deleted by someone)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 09:43, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
@Purin2022 — I Yes Am okay with making it {{ND}}. When I typed that into the search bar, it took me to {{nd}}, so that’s why I thought it hasn’t been created. On the Category:Template Redirects, I think that it should be either recreated or removed from templates that use it - Otherwise, these pages are basically uncategorized. There are also some pages that have that category but aren’t redirects.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 11:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 — (did I not see that the topic is created by you? Anyway...) Agreed, they make no use... (probably should continue on that topic)
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 11:50, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Make a new template request!

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

Hi, I wanted to make a template called Hello for new users! It looks a little somethin' like this!:

when green flag clicked
say [Hi! Im new to the Scratch Wiki! Go to my talk page and say hello!]
stop [all v]

Is that ok with any admins or mods?
GvYoutube (talk | contribs) 21:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

when green flag clicked 
broadcast [goodbye v] 
when i receive [goodbye v] 
say [change da world. my final message: goodbye. 
play sound [Windows95startup.mp3 v] until done

-unsigned comment by GvYoutube (talk | contribs)

No No support. Users are already welcome to create their own welcome templates and transclude them onto talk pages, this doesn't make too much sense. Please do not spam multiple messages full of blocks.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 23:01, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
No No support. We dont need a official template for that, and this is unnecessary use of blocks.
-unsigned comment by Ideapad-320 (talk | contribs)

Should there be an article for the current explore page and searching glitch?

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Right now, there is a glitch on Scratch with the Explore page and searching page. Basically, projects that have really high IDs in their URL (I'm not sure the exact amount that's high enough), will not show up on the explore page (Meaning it can't get trending, popular, or recent), or the search page (Meaning it won't show up in search results).

What I'm wondering is: Is this glitch notable enough for there to be a Wiki article about it? Or should it be added as a subsection in the Scratch Bugs page?
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 22:40, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

@BrilliantGamer6 — I'm not sure where it should go (possibly a separate article, it's pretty notable), but Yes Support — I was literally just thinking this, and it makes so much sense.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 02:20, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
@BrilliantGamer6, han614698 — I definitely think that this is extremely notable and therefore Yes Support. However, unless either there are a LOT of people on the forums saying about this, or it doesn't get fixed for a LONG time (say a month), I think I should just be a section in Scratch Bugs.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 10:34, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes Support This is very important, as it could affect newer projects by a lot
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 13:13, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes Support I think this is caused by the indexer not having index the newest projects.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 20:20, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
It seems like nobody is disagreeing with this. However, I'm not sure if it should go in another article or as a Scratch Bugs subsection. I won't add the unresolved template yet, however I am wondering what others think should be done (which is also why I won't create the article or add the bug to the Scratch Bugs page).
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 02:06, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Okay nevermind, I'm going to add the unresolved template.
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 19:42, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Behold the pipe trick

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

See Wikipedia. That is all. This has been in place since at least 2005. I've been here since 2017 and I didn't know this existed. Amazing!
Kenny2scratch logo.jpg kenny2scratch  Talk  Contribs  Directory 
05:49, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Co0lcr34t10ns wow it works
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 19:24, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I'm a new wiki editor that isn't supposed to be here!

Yes Resolved (since 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC))

Hi there, to anyone who is reading this. Recently, I requested a scratch wiki account and an administrator left a comment saying, "Thank you for requesting an account, and we have taken the decision to deny your request" or something along those lines. However, when I checked the status, it read "accepted." I logged in with my Scratch Wiki account and I was shown that the very same admin that had denied my request left a note saying "welcome to the scratch wiki," again something among those lines. I was very confused why I was denied and accepted at the same time, so I went to the community portal, and here I am now.

To be completely honest, I don't want be revoked of my wiki account, but I do not want to edit pages and correct grammar via an account that shouldn't have been created.

Thank you,
London11gm (talk | contribs) 03:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Whoa, quite a pickle you're in. I'd try the admin requests portal and get help from an Experienced Wikian.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
@London11gm: You actually got it backwards. I looked at the request and we did correctly accept it, but put in the wrong message.
jvvg (talk | contribs) 15:06, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
@Jvvg Ah, the old copy-paste bank mishap. @cosmosaura moment: wiki edition
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 15:11, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
Thank you all for helping resolve the issue. I'm glad it was a simple copy-paste mistake, and didn't cause any extra discussion. This should now be marked as resolved.
London11gm (talk | contribs) 04:14, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

About the Scratch Wiki header

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On Scratch, back on June 28th, 2023, the Scratch Team added Color Contrast to Scratch. This turned the nav bar color from blue to purple. In the Scratch Wiki forum topic, it says

β€œ The Scratch Wiki is independently run, and is on different servers and a different domain. To distinguish the main website from the Wiki, the (default) header color is different between the two sites. ”

However, now, since the header color is purple on Scratch, they both look similar (albeit the shade of purple is slightly different, Scratch's being this and the Wiki's being this). Now, the header color shouldn't be changed to another color, such as blue or green, but the shade of purple on the wiki header could be changed to something more distinguishable from the Scratch header.

Note Note: I understand that the header color can be changed by logged in users, however I'm talking about the default color.

BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 16:11, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

No support. The wiki can have a similar identity, in fact it may be better.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 00:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
@BrilliantGamer6, what color do you have in mind?
London11gm (talk | contribs) 04:24, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
No support for changing the color of the header - the ST changed the one on scratch to purple to make scratch easier to see for colorblinds, so changing our to blue would kinda make the wiki harder to read. However, our header looks very similar to the scratch header, with the only major differences being "Discuss" and the pencil instead of the mystuff icon, so something about it should be changed. Instead of having "Scratch" on the header, we could have "Scratch Wiki".
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:33, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
Isn't there a whole wiki sidebar?
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (793) | directory 12:45, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
@London11gm, I don't really have a particular color in mind, just any shade of purple that's distinguishable enough from the Scratch header color.
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 13:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
@Vdiu, I did say that "The header color shouldn't be changed to blue". And if the header said "Scratch Wiki", where would the link to the regular Scratch page go?
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 13:17, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
No support. The color of the header is fine right now, and there's no important reason to change it. I was curious about the color because just how different is the color? That may have impacted my verdict.
London11gm (talk | contribs) 15:59, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜Changing the shade of purple that both distinguishes from the main site purple AND from the text colour (white) is nearly impossible, as the wiki has a darker shade of purple than the main site. The only way it'd work is to change it to a even darker shade of purple, which looks something like this, which, in my opinion, isn't that great.

Changing the logo on the nav bar, of course, is a potential solution. However, we already have the logo on the sidebar already, and anyway the logo is too big to fit to the nav bar, so it isn't great either.

The layout might be something that will distinguish the main site from the wiki. Obviously, this will create some problems, including people not being familliar with the bar, but overall, since when Echo was installed back in December last year, the layout has been very simliar. I have no idea in mind of how exactly it would look like, but please feel free to suggest them.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 09:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

@BrilliantGamer6 The shade of purple on scratch and on the wiki is that shade because it is easy to read for all colorblind people, but if we go out of the range of #855cd6-#7953c4, it gets harder to read the further out of range you go. I know someone who is grayscale colorblind, and I sent them a screenshot of the wiki header in a more distinguishable purple, but they said it was difficult to read and asked me to send one with better contrast. Also, the scratch link could go in the sidebar, because more people jump from a random wiki page to the home page then they do from the wiki to scratch. Also, I know that clicking the logo does this, but you can't see that in the middle of a page.
@Purin2022 The entire logo won't fit, I meant just the "Scratch Wiki" text under the cat globe.
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

CSS Help

Yes Resolved (since 10:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC))

On my css page, I've tried to change the logo in the header to the scratch wiki logo but it hasn't been working. The code I'm using right now is li.logo { img: url(https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/Wiki.png) !important; }, but it doesn't seem to be working. What am I doing wrong?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 08:36, 14 April 2024 (UTC)

Use the following:li.logo > a > img{content:url("https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/Wiki.png");width:auto}. It might be worth having a height parameter. For that do li.logo > a > img{content:url("https://en.scratch-wiki.info/w/images/Wiki.png");width:auto;height=40px}.Change 40px to whatever you want.
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 14:53, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
@Ideapad-320 Thanks! Your code almost perfectly worked, I just had to change the = to : in the height parameter. But, when I click on the logo, it still sends me to scratch. Do you know how to change the link?
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 06:57, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
@Vdiu Add this line to your custom js: document.querySelector("li.logo > a").setAttribute("href", "https://en.scratch-wiki.info");
Ideapad-320 | Talk | Contribs | Scratch 20:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
SpiderLogo.png Vdiu | Talk | Contributions | Scratch Profile 10:17, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

Level 1 heading

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

What happens if you use a level 1 heading in an article instead of a level 2 heading?

Alphabetlorefan2003 (talk | contribs) 01:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@Alphabetlorefan2003 Level 1 headings are meant for page titles, not sections. These aren't needed, as every page already has a title. If you use a level 1 heading, and then a level 2 heading, they will appear to look the same, just the level 2 heading being slightly smaller.
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 01:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

(removed by han614698)

Just don't do it in regular articles.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 02:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 Your heading that says "This" is actually causing all sections below it to become part of the "This" heading instead. You can see at the bottom of the Community Portal's Table of Contents, that it thinks the topics below this heading is part of this, since the topics are automatically set to have Level 2 headings.
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 23:48, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
I don't know what compelled you to do this, or why, but I feel compelled to fix this. #BRD just in case you wanna keep it.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 00:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

How does merge work?

Yes Resolved (since 18:12, 18 April 2024 (UTC))

There are a couple of pages I know of that have been needing a merge for a while, but I am a bit confused as to how a merge happens. I can't find a description of it anywhere, so can someone please explain it to me? Also, the page in question that requires a merge is Costume Center.
MagicCoder330 (talk | contribs) 15:54, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

@MagicCoder330 Please make sure that your section headings are level 2. Merges (basically) work like this:
  1. Someone puts the {{merge}} template onto an article with the target article specified and people discuss this in a talk page. (usually the original article's talk page)
  2. Once the merge gain community consensus, someone will edit the target article and moving all of the original article's information into the new page, removing excessive information if necessary. (that is entirely upto the editor and/or the community's decision.)
  3. The original page gets redirected or deleted.
Of course, this is reality and things aren't always as simple as that. However, most of the time merges happen according to this.
Purin2022 Mini User Icon.png Purin2022 | πŸ’¬Talk | πŸ“Contribs | 🐱Scratch 17:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Fourth person in articles

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First person and second person are not allowed in Wiki articles (with exceptions). And, third person is allowed. For reference:

  • First person is talking about the narrator's own self, using words like I, my, me, mine, myself, etc.
    • It can also be used for groups such as we, us, our, etc.
  • Second person is talking about the reader, using words like you, your, etc.
  • Third person is talking about another specific person, using words like he, she, him, his, her, they, them, that, etc.


  • Fourth person is talking about someone, but not anybody in particular, using words like one, oneself, someone, somebody, anyone, anybody, etc.

So, my question is: Is fourth person allowed in articles?
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 23:23, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes, and it’s used a lot.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 23:31, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Twitter or X?

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Hi guys,

This has come up a few times recently as many instances of Twitter are being changed to X.

I personally do not think this is a good idea, because it breaks the common vocabulary and introduces confusion. Twitter is both by far the more common name, and also the name used on Scratch (i.e. Scratch always refers to their Twitter presence, and *never* their "X" presence). Pretty much the only use of X on Scratch is used as a means of going around the filter. But, it seems to be somewhat controversial as some have been changing Twitter to X (as well as changing other names that don't even appear on the site, for example retweet became re-X even though the site says repost, not re-X), though I haven't seen a reason for doing so yet. Thoughts?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 13:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 13:32, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Many websites are changing to Twitter/X or X, formerly Twitter, but I agree with Mrsrec's point. I think that we should probably switch to something like the above, but we should't use "Re-X", use the actual X website term, like repost or something. Also, Mrsrec, usually standard wiki protocal is to use Discussion Invitations for inviting people to new discussions rather than pinging.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (793) | directory 18:04, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
Yes Support, this makes sense. X could refer to many different things (as shown on Wikipedia's disambiguation page for X). Lots of people are used to it being called Twitter, so calling it X would definitely bring up confusion.
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 19:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
I pinged han614698 because this discussion concerns them, not because of the discussion invitation. Of course I can follow the discussion invitation, but this is because they were replacing Twitter with X. Hope this shows my point of view :)
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 13:06, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
@Mrsrec I am sorry for not responding quicker, I was out of town for several days. I haven’t logged into the wiki until now. I don’t have too much to say other than that I disagree with keeping it as Twitter. The company is attempting to change their name, and it’s not our place to worry about whether it’s better known as twitter or not, rather to report information as it is. Meaning we shouldn’t call Twitter just because it’s more well known - the website is no longer twitter, it’s X. I think it’s very stupid to make a website called X, but, hey, it’s not my decision, so I think that we need to document what the website owners want their name to be.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 19:26, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
@Mrsrec A little unrelated, but why did you undo my revision here? You may not agree that it should say X in the article, but it still shouldn’t link to Twitter as that is a redirect and general wiki protocol is to not link to redirects, AFAIK. To be clear I would actually rather people ping me instead of using discussion invitation since it’s a lot less work and link clicking when I’m checking messages.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 19:30, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

β”Œβ”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”€β”˜@Mrsrec one more thing- Looking back at RC it appears you undid every single one of my Twitter->X changes before discussing. That technically doesn’t break BRD but it seems rather unnecessary considering it would just be more annoying to put back. I also want to rebring up the fact that you’re making them all link to the redirect Twitter which isn’t usually what we do. You’re welcome to discuss and disagree with my edits but I think it would be better to discuss before mass reverting changes.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 19:38, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

No No support. While I don't like X as a name, and I wish it was still Twitter, I feel like we are getting opinion in the way. As X is the official name, I feel like we should use that. I understand it could be confusing, but we could refer it as "the social media platform X" or something like that. The challenge of the wiki is to stay up to date, and up to date is X, even though it's not the common name. TL;DR is I agree with @han614698.
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 14:41, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
@han614698 I reverted them per BRD as you mentioned, but I understand why it might have been a better idea to not do that (as you never know how the discussion will go).
@Co0lcr34t10ns Respectfully, I don't think it's about my opinion. I reverted them because this is the Scratch Wiki, not the Twitter wiki. So there really is no such thing as the "official name" for us-- the closest thing to that would be the name that the Scratch Team uses, which is Twitter. This is a wiki about Scratch, and if the Scratch Team tells people to check their Twitter page for status updates, then there cannot really be a compelling reason to refer to the "X" page based on the "official" name (of whom?). Reporting information as it is would be achieved by calling it Twitter-- it would not be achieved by calling it X, because again, this is the Scratch Wiki not the Twitter wiki. In my opinion Twitter calling themselves X doesn't really matter for the purposes of the Scratch Wiki-- would only for something like Wikipedia, which the Scratch Wiki is not Wikipedia (also, Wikipedia says Twitter as well).
I hope this explains my view in more detail; I'm not just saying Twitter is the "true" name, it's specifically tailored. However, given that it is somewhat controversial and there's not really a sense in withholding information, I added the name X to the Twitter section; I hope this is an OK compromise, and doesn't require two names in every single appearance. Is this OK?
Mrsrec (talk | contribs) 20:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
@Mrsrec — I am okay with you changing that article to that, but I am still No Not okay with that being it. I really think it's important that we change it to X. Even though a lot of people call it Twitter still, it's still called X. Twitter may be better but it's not the name anymore. As seen here,
β€œ In March of this year, Musk merged Twitter Inc. into a newly registered entity called X Corp. ”
Twitter doesn't even legally exist anymore, and as far as I can tell the fact that x.com redirects to twitter.com is just because they haven't merged the servers yet (which takes a lot of effort). Also X is not just a "workaround" as it's their new name. It's not us creating a "Twitter Wiki", we're just changing it to reflect what the company is and wants to be called. Even a simple google search for "Did Twitter officially change their name" will overwhelmingly show you that it is no longer called Twitter by anyone other than people that forget or won't change. I strongly feel that we need to follow this and not call a company a name that it (a) doesn't want to be called and also (b) not even the companies name.
Han614698 H Logo.png han614698 talk β€’ contribs (1,892) β€’ profile 23:33, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Creating April Fools pages

I was thinking of creating some April Fools pages and what should I put when I do? And I'm afraid about it.
JustThatSpecificUser (talk | contribs) 10:41, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

S:AF does have some good information. You are supposed to put at at Scratch Wiki:April Fools/your page and I would check out the list of AF pages here.
Lovecodeabc Links: talk (new topic) | contribs (793) | directory 11:29, 20 April 2024 (UTC)

Can someone send me a test message?

Can someone send me a test message?
2tables.png 2tables TalkContibutionsScratchEdits (905) 21:02, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Small ninjahanzo pfp.png ninjahanzo ( Talk | Contribs | Scratch ) 05:01, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
@Ninjahanzo ...on my talk page...
2tables.png 2tables TalkContibutionsScratchEdits (905) 16:19, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
Gdxfor (talk | contribs) 17:02, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

How to make an example image for special statuses

I found some images that are blue and I want to update them, but they are based off of a teacher/student account. How would I be able to replace and document them? Is there some sort of example account I can use?
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 20:28, 23 April 2024 (UTC)

Why would you update them if they weren't blue? Or is that just irrelevant to the edit(s) you want to make?
BrilliantGamer6 (talk | contribs) 00:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
I meant ARE blue, whups
Co0lcr34t10ns (talk | contribs) 12:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
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